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Shadow boos
Divine Insanity
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Posted - 2014.02.27 13:02:00 -
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What ship its best for runing lvl4 miss Pls tell me your opinion
And how much dps they have
Alsi trow me some fits thx in advance |
haga daga
Deadspace Remnants
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Posted - 2014.02.27 13:55:00 -
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Either of these ships will be considerably more than adequate.
The differences in my opinion are:
Vargure: Tank: more tank... not needed though Damage: because of adaptability this ship would be my first choice.
Paladin: Tank: still more than enough.... laughably more than required Damage: better tracking for damage application.... not adaptable.
That is all |
derrjuden
Fabritech Engineering Spectrum Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.27 14:26:00 -
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Well, its worth considering the following, do you have stronger shield or armor skills? And are you closer to one ship than the other?
I cannot speak from experience for the paladin, but i have had major success with the Vargur in amart space. More often than not i use 1400 artillery with 4x gyrostabilizers, 1x tracking enhancer and a tracking computer w/ speed script. For tank i use a t2 em rig, 2x t2 adaptive invulns and a t2 x-large shield booster.
1400 arty vargur is very well suited to use with a MJD.
On occasion i switch to 800mm autocannons but the ammo gets very expensive As for numbers with 1400s i do between 800-1000 dps, with 800s i get between 1100 and 1300, but with a huuuge ammo expenditure over 1400s. I would guesstimate the use of ammo to be almost 8x as high, for an atmost 30% dps increase... These numbers are with quake, barrage, and republic fleet phased plasma.
Hope that helps. |
Batelle
HOMELE55
1959
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Posted - 2014.02.27 14:54:00 -
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paladin has a long optimal range with either turret. Use your mjd and apply full damage at any range.
There's very little reason to use artillery on a vargur IMO. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Shadow boos
Divine Insanity
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Posted - 2014.02.27 14:59:00 -
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Have for both ships the same skills all maxed weps same
With vargur got 800dps with ac in low 3 dmg mod and 2 traking i havent use him with artys
And have rigs for fallout guess they are wrong... |
Batelle
HOMELE55
1959
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Posted - 2014.02.27 15:04:00 -
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I use 2 tracking computers and a tracking enhancer. No falloff rig. I get pretty obscene AC range, and I haven't even tried it with barrage. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Rexxorr
Zero Corp Tax2
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Posted - 2014.02.27 16:34:00 -
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Use both in amarr space. Vargur for the angel/guristas missions you will receive from time to time, Paladin for everything else.
The only thing stopping the pulse paladin from being the unquestioned number one lvl 4 isk/hr mission runner is its lack of damage selection. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
697
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Posted - 2014.02.27 16:46:00 -
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Rexxorr wrote:Use both in amarr space. Vargur for the angel/guristas missions you will receive from time to time, Paladin for everything else.
The only thing stopping the pulse paladin from being the unquestioned number one lvl 4 isk/hr mission runner is its lack of damage selection.
This sounds like good advice. The Paladin is awesome against Sansha/ BR but horrible against Angel cartel. I love my tach Paladin. Against it's intended targets the tank is more than enough but Guristas will put some pressure on it. |
Shadow boos
Divine Insanity
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Posted - 2014.02.27 16:49:00 -
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Any gd setup for pala ? |
Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2014.02.27 16:55:00 -
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Just use pally. There are only a few missions in amarr space that arent "em/th" and cannot be blitzed (like angel extravaganza), so you dont really have to worry about it.
Once you get enough skills/isk you can get vargur or mach for these few missions, but Id focus on paladin first, overall it will be most efficient mission ship in amarr space. |
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Batelle
HOMELE55
1962
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Posted - 2014.02.27 16:58:00 -
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Lugalzagezi666 wrote:Just use pally. There are only a few missions in amarr space that arent "em/th" and cannot be blitzed (like angel extravaganza), so you dont really have to worry about it.
AE is fairly blitzable. Its not a short blitz, but it doesn't need to be given the amount of LP you get. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
697
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Posted - 2014.02.27 17:03:00 -
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Shadow boos wrote:Any gd setup for pala ?
Not at my computer but from memory
Lows 4 Heat sinks 1 EANM 1 Damage control 1 LAR
Mids 3 Tracking computer 1 MJD
Highs 4 Tachyon beam laser II 1 Bastion module
Rigs 2 CCC
I have CCC rigs because I'm too lazy to change them. If you feel you don't need the extra cap by all means use something else. You can use 2 EANM or 2 active hardeners but I prefer the safety of the DC |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
697
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Posted - 2014.02.27 17:05:00 -
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Lugalzagezi666 wrote:Just use pally. There are only a few missions in amarr space that arent "em/th" and cannot be blitzed (like angel extravaganza), so you dont really have to worry about it.
Once you get enough skills/isk you can get vargur or mach for these few missions, but Id focus on paladin first, overall it will be most efficient mission ship in amarr space.
[Paladin, New Setup 1] Centum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Cap Recharger II /mjd or mwd for specific missions
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L /or pulses depending on mission Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Bastion Module I
Large Energy Burst Aerator II Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Salvage Drone I x5
Is the medium repper a typo?
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Fatimer Lightspeed
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.02.27 20:17:00 -
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IIshira wrote:Lugalzagezi666 wrote:Just use pally. There are only a few missions in amarr space that arent "em/th" and cannot be blitzed (like angel extravaganza), so you dont really have to worry about it.
Once you get enough skills/isk you can get vargur or mach for these few missions, but Id focus on paladin first, overall it will be most efficient mission ship in amarr space.
[Paladin, New Setup 1] Centum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Cap Recharger II /mjd or mwd for specific missions
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L /or pulses depending on mission Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Bastion Module I
Large Energy Burst Aerator II Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Salvage Drone I x5 Is the medium repper a typo?
I doubt it, with the Armor Repper bonus you get from the Marauder talent even a Medium Armor repper with a couple of EANM's can get you in excess of a 600DPS tank. That's plenty for 95% of missions if done right and obviously makes you a lot more stable! |
Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2014.02.27 20:54:00 -
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IIshira wrote: Is the medium repper a typo?
No, I wanted a capstable ship in case of dc with bastion on. Also its one thing less to manage and still more than enough tank.
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Damien White
Sonnenlegion Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2014.02.27 21:33:00 -
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Shadow boos wrote:Any gd setup for pala ?
Either use Pulse or Beam weapons (I switch depending on enemy). No need for more than a single large rep.
Quote:[Paladin, L4] Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Drone Damage Amplifier II Tracking Enhancer II Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer
Gist A-Type 100MN Microwarpdrive Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400 Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L Bastion Module I Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II
Large Energy Burst Aerator II Large Energy Locus Coordinator I
Hobgoblin II x5 Bouncer II x1 Salvage Drone I x5 97% of girls would die if Justin Bieber were about to jump off a cliff. Post this in your sig if you`re part of the 3% yelling,
"DO A BARREL ROLL!" |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1864
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Posted - 2014.02.27 23:11:00 -
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IIshira wrote:Lugalzagezi666 wrote:Just use pally. There are only a few missions in amarr space that arent "em/th" and cannot be blitzed (like angel extravaganza), so you dont really have to worry about it.
Once you get enough skills/isk you can get vargur or mach for these few missions, but Id focus on paladin first, overall it will be most efficient mission ship in amarr space.
[Paladin, New Setup 1] Centum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Cap Recharger II /mjd or mwd for specific missions
Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L /or pulses depending on mission Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Bastion Module I
Large Energy Burst Aerator II Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Salvage Drone I x5 Is the medium repper a typo? two of my lvl4 ships are running a small deadspace shield booster and no bastion. with the paladins high resists, shield buffer AND bastion, a medium rep is more than adequate.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Caitlyn Tufy
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2014.02.28 09:35:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:two of my lvl4 ships are running a small deadspace shield booster and no bastion. with the paladins high resists, shield buffer AND bastion, a medium rep is more than adequate.
Tengu kinda doesn't count, that ship has an insane speed/sig tank to begin with. :D |
Batelle
HOMELE55
1993
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Posted - 2014.02.28 15:51:00 -
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small shield boosters are for scrubs.
I always fit a pithum MSB on my tengu, if you run out of cpu, then fit some CN bcus And I run my marauder with a pith XL booster. over 25% of my shields every 3 seconds? yes please.. MWD right at the rats, hit bastion at around 25% shield. never need to sit around stuck in bastion when you'd rather be moving.
(for the sarcastically impaired, yes i am aware its actually just a matter of preference). "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
510
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Posted - 2014.02.28 18:55:00 -
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I think with bastion a c-type medium reps for more than a pre active tank buff large rep. Oh and it does it in 9s instead of 11.25s. You can trust me, I have a monocole |
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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1867
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:07:00 -
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Caitlyn Tufy wrote:Daniel Plain wrote:two of my lvl4 ships are running a small deadspace shield booster and no bastion. with the paladins high resists, shield buffer AND bastion, a medium rep is more than adequate. Tengu kinda doesn't count, that ship has an insane speed/sig tank to begin with. :D none of them is a tengu.
edit: although, i do still have a tengu collecting dust somewhere, so technically i have three mission ships with small deadspace boosters.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
699
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Posted - 2014.03.01 12:20:00 -
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Daniel Plain wrote:Caitlyn Tufy wrote:Daniel Plain wrote:two of my lvl4 ships are running a small deadspace shield booster and no bastion. with the paladins high resists, shield buffer AND bastion, a medium rep is more than adequate. Tengu kinda doesn't count, that ship has an insane speed/sig tank to begin with. :D none of them is a tengu. edit: although, i do still have a tengu collecting dust somewhere, so technically i have three mission ships with small deadspace boosters.
Tengu or whatever T3... They're cruiser hulls so small does work okay. I used to know a guy that ran dual smalls because they were cheaper than a medium.
I can see where the med rep would be fine against everything but Guristas if you keep range. The only problem is with your medium rep is if you screw up it's not going to save you. I've had to use my large to rep me till I was able to warp out. Since I made the decision to bail bastion mode wasn't an option so even the large doesn't rep much.
Of course if you never make mistakes this isn't an issue |
Shadow boos
Divine Insanity
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Posted - 2014.03.02 08:31:00 -
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Ive use vargur for 3 days and was like meh..its ok
After that puck a pala and my 1st mision was angel extravaganza
Well pala did a great job with pulse and conflagration amo
Second miss was against guristas and also did a wonderful job
And the 3rd was vengence y was like wtf where are the rats :)))was so fast to kill rats y could not belive
Def in amar space paladin its the l4 king my setup its.
4 mega pulse bastion 2x salvager 1 tractor
Ab mjd and some optimal or traking
1L rep 2eanm 4x heat sink Rigs 1for increase cpu and the other for cap recharge
All items are t2 dps its 1.1k with conflagracion charges
And if the rats are to far well use mjd and get in range.
Ty for your colaboracion
Escuse my por eng |
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