Pages: [1] 2 3 4 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Aquila Draco
60
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 17:33:00 -
[1] - Quote
I have read somewhere about removing mineral drops from drones and putting something else on its place Can you please give us update on this? Is this coming?
That's very nice change and players would be thankful. |
Needle Juice
Appetite 4 Destruction
3
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 18:06:00 -
[2] - Quote
Leave my mineral supply alone, that's how i build my ammo!! |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
81
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 18:18:00 -
[3] - Quote
It was soundwave who said he wasn't a fan of how things are. I'll get the exact quotes, so I don't getanything wrong.
CCP Soundwave wrote:I'm considering putting bounties on them and turning them into normal rats.
I hate gunmining with a passion.
CCP Soundwave wrote:This thread is pretty awesome. You guys will get a few 0.0 changes this winter, smaller ones that should improve quality of life.
One thing I'm thinking about, but not entirely sure about is this: Putting bounties on drones instead of minerals. Mining used to be a viable way of making money in nullsec, but the increase in available minerals has driven the price down. I'm wondering if putting bounties on drones won't give mining a bit of a revival and put some life back in 0.0.
There you have it. They are clearly planning to change things, but nothing seems to be in concrete yet and they are still looking for feedback. |
Alara IonStorm
RvB - BLUE Republic
402
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 18:20:00 -
[4] - Quote
They hinted at new faction items in the Exploration Dev Blog.
I am really hoping it is faction Drone Loot to go with possible bounties.
I might start running there Complexes then. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
265
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 19:31:00 -
[5] - Quote
This only applies to DRF drones not the ones in deadspaces from missions or various sites.
|
Iceni
Angel Constellation
46
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 19:41:00 -
[6] - Quote
So the whole EVE economy is going to spin on whether one guy - CCP Soundwave - likes something or not?
So how many drones loot does it take to build a Titan?
What proportion of high-end mins come from drone-loot rather than null-sec mining?
Someone needs to do some proper research before making a change like this. And I suspect there might be a lot of other reasons why people aren't mining so much in null. The bot-nerf for one.
|
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
265
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 19:42:00 -
[7] - Quote
They need to reduce module scrapping effiency as well.
|
Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
28
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 19:49:00 -
[8] - Quote
I like and want this change!!!
And... from drones come more minerals then from mining now... :/
and in the other thread (about 0.0 changes) much ppl supported this...
and this:
Nova Fox wrote:They need to reduce module scrapping effiency as well. This too is for +1000000 |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
266
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 19:50:00 -
[9] - Quote
And I do mean specifically mean modules. Not ships ships are okay where they're at becuase they dont rain from the heavens like modules do in npc areas. IMO missions need to issue out blueprints as rewards for the newbie missions as well.
|
HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
35
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 20:02:00 -
[10] - Quote
The effect that drone minerals has had on the wider mineral market has been nothing short of catastrophic, but on the other hand I like the idea that the drone regions work a little differently and aren't just another NPC faction with bounties and loot drops like all the rest.
Is there some way to keep the drone regions unique, but changing them to drop something other than minerals? |
|
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
113
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 20:04:00 -
[11] - Quote
Aquila Draco wrote:I have read somewhere DEVs reply about removing mineral drops from drones and putting something else on its place Can you please give us update on this? Is this coming?
That's very nice change and players would be thankful.
Yeah I heard drones are going to be dropping PLEX soon. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
266
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 20:08:00 -
[12] - Quote
Lore reasons for bounties is easy enough as it could be seen as a real threat that needs incentivsized means of control.
|
Hiram Alexander
Seraphim Securities
78
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 20:09:00 -
[13] - Quote
HELIC0N ONE wrote:The effect that drone minerals has had on the wider mineral market has been nothing short of catastrophic, but on the other hand I like the idea that the drone regions work a little differently and aren't just another NPC faction with bounties and loot drops like all the rest.
Is there some way to keep the drone regions unique, but changing them to drop something other than minerals? Give them something similar to Sleeper 'tags' that are worth good Isk, but need to be 'handed in' for the bounty... and half the mineral drop, or more...? |
HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
35
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 20:19:00 -
[14] - Quote
Hiram Alexander wrote:HELIC0N ONE wrote:The effect that drone minerals has had on the wider mineral market has been nothing short of catastrophic, but on the other hand I like the idea that the drone regions work a little differently and aren't just another NPC faction with bounties and loot drops like all the rest.
Is there some way to keep the drone regions unique, but changing them to drop something other than minerals? Give them something similar to Sleeper 'tags' that are worth good Isk, but need to be 'handed in' for the bounty... and half the mineral drop, or more...?
The ideal scenario would be for them to change to providing something that was neither a mineral faucet OR an ISK faucet but was still relatively useful and valuable.
That might require some fairly serious changes (stretching far beyond the drone regions themselves) though. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
266
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 20:20:00 -
[15] - Quote
drone ammo? drone modules? drone ships? drone drones?
|
Abrazzar
315
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 20:21:00 -
[16] - Quote
Keep the alloys, remove the reprocessing but make them required materials for Rogue Drone Meta and Faction items instead of normal minerals. Add items to drone drops that can be built into or reverse engineered into the new modules.
Similar for Meta 1-4 items from normal rats, just that the BPCs require T1 modules as a base.
This reduces mineral influx from rats and drones while increasing mineral usage through increased demand for T1 modules.
Been saying this for years. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Crucis Cassiopeiae
EvE-COM
691
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 20:47:00 -
[17] - Quote
No minerals from drones at all... Minerals from drones have killed mineral market!!!
faction Drone Loot is ok... and isk is more ok then minerals... just dont put things that can be reprocessed in minerals at all...
and if you can... please... change reprocess tables so that they give less less less minerals from modules... or/and less low tier drops... (drops that ppl reprocess) in drops from all rats...
maybe is this nice thought:
Nova Fox wrote:drone ammo? drone modules? drone ships? drone drones?
|
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
42
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 20:52:00 -
[18] - Quote
Aquila Draco wrote:I have read somewhere DEVs reply about removing mineral drops from drones and putting something else on its place Can you please give us update on this? Is this coming?
That's very nice change and players would be thankful.
first they nerf the miniral ammount and now they take it away compleatly, now drone missions are going to be compleatly worthless.
|
HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
35
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 20:54:00 -
[19] - Quote
Alongside Soundwave's drone region comments, something I'd like to see would be to stop modules dropping from NPCs altogether so that mining became the only source of minerals, and manufacturing of basic T1 items hopefully became a viable entry-level profession for hopeful industrialists. As things stand, alloy drops from the drone regions cripple the miners, and loot drops from the rest of space undermine the manufacturers (and the miners, if the loot is melted down).
If CCP ever gets serious about revamping the industrial side of the game, this would be a good start. |
Crucis Cassiopeiae
EvE-COM
691
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 20:56:00 -
[20] - Quote
HELIC0N ONE wrote:Alongside Soundwave's drone region comments, something I'd like to see would be to stop modules dropping from NPCs altogether so that mining became the only source of minerals, and manufacturing of basic T1 items hopefully became a viable entry-level profession for hopeful industrialists. As things stand, alloy drops from the drone regions cripple the miners, and loot drops from the rest of space undermine the manufacturers (and the miners, if the loot is melted down).
If CCP ever gets serious about revamping the industrial side of the game, this would be a good start.
JES JES JES JES JEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!! |
|
Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
98
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 20:57:00 -
[21] - Quote
HELIC0N ONE wrote:Hiram Alexander wrote:HELIC0N ONE wrote:The effect that drone minerals has had on the wider mineral market has been nothing short of catastrophic, but on the other hand I like the idea that the drone regions work a little differently and aren't just another NPC faction with bounties and loot drops like all the rest.
Is there some way to keep the drone regions unique, but changing them to drop something other than minerals? Give them something similar to Sleeper 'tags' that are worth good Isk, but need to be 'handed in' for the bounty... and half the mineral drop, or more...? The ideal scenario would be for them to change to providing something that was neither a mineral faucet OR an ISK faucet but was still relatively useful and valuable. That might require some fairly serious changes (stretching far beyond the drone regions themselves) though. Maybe they could drop NeX items? |
HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
37
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 20:58:00 -
[22] - Quote
Razin wrote:HELIC0N ONE wrote:Hiram Alexander wrote:HELIC0N ONE wrote:The effect that drone minerals has had on the wider mineral market has been nothing short of catastrophic, but on the other hand I like the idea that the drone regions work a little differently and aren't just another NPC faction with bounties and loot drops like all the rest.
Is there some way to keep the drone regions unique, but changing them to drop something other than minerals? Give them something similar to Sleeper 'tags' that are worth good Isk, but need to be 'handed in' for the bounty... and half the mineral drop, or more...? The ideal scenario would be for them to change to providing something that was neither a mineral faucet OR an ISK faucet but was still relatively useful and valuable. That might require some fairly serious changes (stretching far beyond the drone regions themselves) though. Maybe they could drop NeX items?
I said 'relatively useful and valuable' |
HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
37
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 21:08:00 -
[23] - Quote
Crucis Cassiopeiae wrote:HELIC0N ONE wrote:Alongside Soundwave's drone region comments, something I'd like to see would be to stop modules dropping from NPCs altogether so that mining became the only source of minerals, and manufacturing of basic T1 items hopefully became a viable entry-level profession for hopeful industrialists. As things stand, alloy drops from the drone regions cripple the miners, and loot drops from the rest of space undermine the manufacturers (and the miners, if the loot is melted down).
If CCP ever gets serious about revamping the industrial side of the game, this would be a good start. JES JES JES JES JEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
I should probably have added that as a consequence of ending loot drops, you'd need some way of manufacturing named modules.
Hmm.
A new line of manufacturing: meta 0 T1 module + looted drone alloy widgets = meta level 1/2/3/4 module? |
bornaa
GRiD.
29
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 21:22:00 -
[24] - Quote
HELIC0N ONE wrote:Crucis Cassiopeiae wrote:HELIC0N ONE wrote:Alongside Soundwave's drone region comments, something I'd like to see would be to stop modules dropping from NPCs altogether so that mining became the only source of minerals, and manufacturing of basic T1 items hopefully became a viable entry-level profession for hopeful industrialists. As things stand, alloy drops from the drone regions cripple the miners, and loot drops from the rest of space undermine the manufacturers (and the miners, if the loot is melted down).
If CCP ever gets serious about revamping the industrial side of the game, this would be a good start. JES JES JES JES JEESSSSSSSSSSS!!!! I should probably have added that as a consequence of ending loot drops, you'd need some way of manufacturing named modules. Hmm. A new line of manufacturing: meta 0 T1 module + looted drone alloy widgets = meta level 1/2/3/4 module?
I don't think CCP want to change invention too so no "kill named loot"
Maybe something like this: - No minerals from drones! - No dropping meta 0 items. - Change amount of minerals you get when reprocess meta 1/2/3/4 items to very low amounts!
This way we are giving industry CPR and its easy to do. |
Nariya Kentaya
Celestial Ascension
63
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 21:28:00 -
[25] - Quote
Alara IonStorm wrote:They hinted at new faction items in the Exploration Dev Blog.
I am really hoping it is faction Drone Loot to go with possible bounties.
I might start running there Complexes then. since STo is in the crapper, the big thing i thought was cool in the short time i played, was that you could "adapt" your ship to hold borg technology, as in it actually (kind of cheesy in hwo they did it though) would put borg twech on your ships hull.
i figure, Drone Loot could be subsystem stuff for non-T3 ships, lore-wise say something about drone AI interfering with capsuleer's link or soemthing. this way lesser ships will have a way of becoming slightly more powerful in whatever role they are, and customizing their appearance a little to boot.
now im not saying they become as storng as T3's, but strong enought that a group of them could be a threat to say a tengu (read GROUP, so a gang), the downside being making the ships cost almost as much as a T3. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
269
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 22:00:00 -
[26] - Quote
ITTigerClawIK wrote:Aquila Draco wrote:I have read somewhere DEVs reply about removing mineral drops from drones and putting something else on its place Can you please give us update on this? Is this coming?
That's very nice change and players would be thankful. first they nerf the miniral ammount and now they take it away compleatly, now drone missions are going to be compleatly worthless. mission rats will have thier guts still according to posts the regional drones are losing their guts.
|
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
181
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 22:05:00 -
[27] - Quote
Taking those alloys out will just make mining become more interesting for sure, well interesting revenue but always same boring activity |
Avila Cracko
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
87
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 22:30:00 -
[28] - Quote
bornaa wrote:HELIC0N ONE wrote:
I should probably have added that as a consequence of ending loot drops, you'd need some way of manufacturing named modules.
Hmm.
A new line of manufacturing: meta 0 T1 module + looted drone alloy widgets = meta level 1/2/3/4 module?
I don't think CCP want to change invention too so no "kill named loot" Maybe something like this: - No minerals from drones! - No dropping meta 0 items. - Change amount of minerals you get when reprocess meta 1/2/3/4 items to very low amounts! This way we are giving industry CPR and its easy to do.
THIS!!!!! |
Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
262
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 22:32:00 -
[29] - Quote
HELIC0N ONE wrote:Alongside Soundwave's drone region comments, something I'd like to see would be to stop modules dropping from NPCs altogether so that mining became the only source of minerals, and manufacturing of basic T1 items hopefully became a viable entry-level profession for hopeful industrialists. As things stand, alloy drops from the drone regions cripple the miners, and loot drops from the rest of space undermine the manufacturers (and the miners, if the loot is melted down).
If CCP ever gets serious about revamping the industrial side of the game, this would be a good start. As mission runner I can't but applaud this.
Greatly decrease drops from NPCs and alloys from drones as well. Slightly increase bounties. Increase my ISK/hour and let me refuse less time consuming low ISK/hour missions - like drone missions. Let non-drone NPCs occasionally drop meta 1-4 modules like they do now but no tier 0 stuff so the whole meta 0 production only comes from industrialists.
Is this a win-win scenario for everyone - or am I missing something?
bornaa wrote:I don't think CCP want to change invention too so no "kill named loot"
Maybe something like this: - No minerals from drones! - No dropping meta 0 items.
This way we are giving industry CPR and its easy to do. Exactly. |
Alara IonStorm
RvB - BLUE Republic
408
|
Posted - 2011.11.11 23:01:00 -
[30] - Quote
Nova Fox wrote:This only applies to DRF drones not the ones in deadspaces from missions or various sites. Source. |
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1] 2 3 4 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |