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Xideinis
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.03.02 02:27:00 -
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The corpses of the fallen litter the heavens, left forever to drift among the frozen sea of stars. So listless in their frost bound state, the wailing of their souls rings out like a silent echo.
But why?
Why do you fight, capsuleer? What is your motivation?
Is it for God? For wealth and glory? For a better understanding of the world and its cruel ways?
Why? |
Ruin Rolmera
11
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:38:00 -
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You might want to be more specific in who you are asking. Those involved in the militias? Those working for agents of one corporation or another? Those who merely defend themselves while attempting to develop their industry? Who? |
Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative
221
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Posted - 2014.03.02 03:53:00 -
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Xideinis wrote:The corpses of the fallen litter the heavens, left forever to drift among the frozen sea of stars. So listless in their frost bound state, the wailing of their souls rings out like a silent echo.
But why?
Why do you fight, capsuleer? What is your motivation?
Is it for God? For wealth and glory? For a better understanding of the world and its cruel ways?
Why? As rote as it sounds. I fly for the State.
However, the State, to me, is not the Deksam, nor the CEO's. It is the Caldari people. I fly against those who would threaten the worker, the merchant and the cook, without expectations of fanfare or even acknowledgement. I fly and fight for my crew, who serve the State as I do, yet without the comfort of immortality. I fight so they may do their duty and come home alive.
In the end, I fight because I feel someone must. While the pilots at the front see to the battles in Black Rise, I take on the threats that many feel are beneath them, because if everyone passed them over in search of glory or the Good Fight, to who, then, does the burden fall? |
Candi LeMew
Sky Fighters
177
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Posted - 2014.03.02 04:00:00 -
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I fight for my 'family' because they ask me to. Simple.
If it wasn't for them I'd probably have been found r*ped, murdered or starved to death in a Caille gutter years ago. "I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty. |
Rin Valador
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
68
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Posted - 2014.03.02 04:06:00 -
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I wanted to be useful for once. That's all you get in a public setting. "There will be neither compassion nor mercy; Nor peace, nor solace For those who bear witness to these Signs And still do not believe." - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 25:10 |
Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
114
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Posted - 2014.03.02 08:41:00 -
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To promote the interests of the State in an arena where the full power of the Navy can't be brought to bear due to diplomatic reasons.
Outsiders may view it as a worthless and futile endeavor. Taking systems one month to lose them the next. But there's a deeper war going on. The gains and losses aren't for nothing, and there's more on the line than anyone outside could imagine. |
Karmilla Strife
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
203
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Posted - 2014.03.02 08:51:00 -
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Hardly profound, self-indulgent really.
The answer is yes, to all the above. |
Naraish Adarn
Alexylva Paradox
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Posted - 2014.03.02 09:14:00 -
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Mostly due to defense or denying intelligence of a potential threat. easier to cut off scouts head to keep them from having information superiority and other times to make a point to demoralize potential threat.
Personally i don't enjoy killing that much so it's a necessary evil in order to maintain safety of Origin and its people.
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Morgan Wulver
Eskola Ergonomics
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Posted - 2014.03.02 09:39:00 -
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I fight for the adventure. There is nothing more thrilling than seeking out my next target and leaving a trail of wreckage in my wake, knowing that every victory just increases my capacity for destruction. I was built for war from a young age. It is what I am good at, what I enjoy, what keeps me functioning. Just as a musician must perform his favorite piece, I feel compelled to pump round after round and volley after volley into a target until it is sufficiently reduced to slag. Just as an artist strives for perfection in their medium, I strive to reach higher magnitudes of obliteration.
I don't much care how I fill that void. I'd like to think I can justify my behavior by claiming that my blood lust indirectly helps the State, but I'm not so sure of that claim when I find myself bombarding civilian populations. I've been tempted to start taking up contracts from Pirate organizations, baring witness to new and exotic ways of reaching victory and celebrating afterwards. Any way of getting me my next fix in a new, powerful way is all I need to keep me fighting.
If I'm being honest, it scares me when I think about all of this. I usually just force it deep down in the darkest part of me while I tuck my shirt in and pretend that I belong with the rest of civilization. "Today, unyielding, we have walked the way of the warrior. In our hands have our fates been molded."
DUST Account: Galm Fae-á
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Dani Dusette
Sky Fighters
573
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Posted - 2014.03.02 11:17:00 -
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Candi LeMew wrote:I fight for my 'family' because they ask me to. Simple.
If it wasn't for them I'd probably have been found r*ped, murdered or starved to death in a Caille gutter years ago. And you have always done us proud.
Our family has always fought for the simple reason of countering threats. Sometimes in a reactionary style and often proactively. There is much to be said for pre-emptive strikes, even on targets that don't necessarily present a direct threat. Even the murder of industrialists can not only help dissuade their pilots from transgressing in your system, but also pad your kill records to aid in dissuading aggression against yourself.
So in essence for us every fight is helping counter threats, either directly or indirectly. Mizhir:-á "Dani Dusette, Best Dusette" Ensign (Ret.) Caldari Naval Militia-á The Wormhole Sisters of EVE
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
608
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Posted - 2014.03.02 11:51:00 -
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"Profound" indeed.
There is no one reason for war and violence. If there were, the human races would have found it and removed it thousands of years ago. Capsuleers are not an exception.
As to why Minmatar loyalists fight, I find it rather presumptions for a PIE Inc member to inquire about it. May I suggest that if it is not clear for you yet, you might schedule a private chat about it with Lord Admiral Gaven Lok'ri? Unfortunately, it seems that he has a pretty good clue about the international politics.
Elsebeth
Broadcast log:-áhttps://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Elsebeth%20Rhiannon/StatusUpdates |
Nauplius
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2014.03.02 12:48:00 -
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I suspect that you already know the correct answer: we fight because God has commanded us to go forth and Reclaim that which He has given. And he has given us everything. The Minmatar, the Gallente, the Jove, CONCORD, ORE, the Sisters of EVE GÇö all of it is given to us. |
Xideinis
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
41
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Posted - 2014.03.02 16:58:00 -
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Karmilla Strife wrote:Hardly profound, self-indulgent really.
The answer is yes, to all the above.
Think about it. The question "Why?" is, in my opinion, one of the most profound questions that humanity ever asks itself. There are countless answers, as God created each person to be different. But it is the basis of understanding.
For some, the answer is obvious. For others, perhaps not as much.
My answer is that I fight for God, for the Empress, and for the Amarrian people. |
Xideinis
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
42
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:10:00 -
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Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:
"Profound" indeed.
There is no one reason for war and violence. If there were, the human races would have found it and removed it thousands of years ago. Capsuleers are not an exception.
As to why Minmatar loyalists fight, I find it rather presumptions for a PIE Inc member to inquire about it. May I suggest that if it is not clear for you yet, you might schedule a private chat about it with Lord Admiral Gaven Lok'ri? Unfortunately, it seems that he has a pretty good clue about the international politics.
Elsebeth
Thank you for the suggestion, though I fear that your incompetence may have blinded you from the intended question.
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Kiela Paine
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
19
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:14:00 -
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I fight for profit. A dead man's wreckage is another man's treasure... or in this case, my treasure! |
Mina Karakalakku
War Sword Spectrum Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.02 17:51:00 -
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Kiela Paine wrote:I fight for profit. A dead man's wreckage is another man's treasure... or in this case, my treasure!
I might have said something like that...
But I don't fight. I just promote the fighting. It's good for the economy. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
3293
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Posted - 2014.03.02 18:26:00 -
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Nauplius wrote:I suspect that you already know the correct answer: we fight because God has commanded us to go forth and Reclaim that which He has given. And he has given us everything. The Minmatar, the Gallente, the Jove, CONCORD, ORE, the Sisters of EVE GÇö all of it is given to us.
You were wise to leave the State off your list. If you turn your eye to us, we'll pluck it out. If you stretch your hand to us, we'll burn off your fingers. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
907
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Posted - 2014.03.02 19:37:00 -
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Xideinis wrote:The corpses of the fallen litter the heavens, left forever to drift among the frozen sea of stars. So listless in their frost bound state, the wailing of their souls rings out like a silent echo.
But why?
Why do you fight, capsuleer? What is your motivation?
Is it for God? For wealth and glory? For a better understanding of the world and its cruel ways?
Why? Why do I fight? Because it is my duty to fight. I have grown in the State, and all my life, that I can remember, I was training to fight. I have been prepared for this, and it became my destiny. And since for everything I have, including my life, I owe to the State, I must serve my duty to the State.
Here in the State we fight for each other. For those, who stand at your side and hold weapons like you. Because in the end, it is they, who are the State. They, who deliver will of the State to those, who oppose us. All citizens of the State are soldiers. We all are prepared to fight and hold weapons to protect the State... to protect each other.
I fight, because my skills in fighting are greater than in any other field. In meritocratic society as ours, it means I will bring most profit in the battlefield. And thus it is my duty to do so. The State trained me not to grow wheat, catch fish or sit behind office desk, comparing income with expenditure. But to fight. And thus, I must fight.
And I fight.
I fight to protect our homes. I fight for our farmers to continue growing food for our peoples. I fight for workers stayed at their workplaces. I fight for office worker to not see destroyed buildings and blood spilled on floor. I fight for our children to not sit in trenches holding guns instead of us. I fight for out daughters not become exotic dancers in gallentean bars. I fight for our culture to live past us. I fight for out people to organize our society as we want to, and not as gallenteans tried to force us to. I fight for our State to be strong. I fight for our citizens to work and contribute to society they live in, an not for paying excessive taxes into pockets of greedy and lazy gallentean beurocrates. I fight for future of Caldari children. I fight for land, that belonged to our ancestsrs. I fight for assets, that were earned with blood and sweat of Caldari people.
And I fight, because It is my duty to fight. |
Kucial Kinan
Sancte Sapienter
4
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Posted - 2014.03.03 01:38:00 -
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It is not often that I fight, any longer. "Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens." - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 71:21 |
Kyllsa Siikanen
Gradient
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Posted - 2014.03.03 02:13:00 -
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If you must justify what you're doing, you should not be doing it. GÇ£Crying is all right in its own way while it lasts. But you have to stop sooner or later, and then you still have to decide what to do.GÇ¥-á
GÇò C.S. Lewis-á |
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Apollo Lyserius
Minerva Technologies
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Posted - 2014.03.03 02:37:00 -
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I don't fight.
Although I can. |
Kucial Kinan
Sancte Sapienter
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Posted - 2014.03.03 03:40:00 -
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Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:If you must justify what you're doing, you should not be doing it.
A justification is provided for every action, even if only to oneself unconsciously and without brevity. "Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens." - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 71:21 |
Astera Zandraki
Stillwater Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.03 03:45:00 -
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Not so long ago I woulda said 'freedom and democracy!' or some **** like that, now though... Me, mine and the sheer adrenalin pumping fun of it... Oh, and enough money for all the things I want.. |
Slave A00073078
The NORRS Flash Mob
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Posted - 2014.03.03 09:32:00 -
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I fight because my owner says to. Thou he prefers to handle that himself most of the time. |
Karynn Denton
Clan Katanga Caravan
121
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Posted - 2014.03.03 12:11:00 -
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I'm an Outrider with my Caravan. That has it's own obvious duties, but I wouldn't be honest if I said they were the sole reasons for fighting.
It's more personal than that. It's the thrill of the chase, the fleeting looks and glimpses before the full embrace of the warp scrambler. It's the dance, the twists and turns as we fight for range, the lashing tongue of the nos, the pounding of the autocannons.
And in a brilliant white-hot flash, it's over - that moment hangs, suspended in time - one of us has been reduced to scrap, the other victorious; but in that moment, I don't care. All that matters is the rush of the explosion, of the Exile and Drop coursing through me, of the fact that I just laughed in death's face once again.
And as I release a shuddering breath, reality kicks back in - am I still in my ship? Do I need to GTFO? Are there spoils to collect? Is anyone else incoming? The salutes exchanged in the Local channel say far more than the simple two letters belie; "gf".
Thukker Outrider Frigateer Booster Smuggler |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
3296
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Posted - 2014.03.03 12:44:00 -
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At first because it was expected of me. Then out of revenge and hatred. Then because my kirjuunet needed me.
Of course there's the reasons you don't talk about at parties. Because you've got a certain psychological.predisposition for it and because, eventually, you come to enjoy it. Others have waxed lyrical about the joys of combat, so I'll only add that when you hunt in a wolfpack it's also an intensely social experience. |
Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient
611
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Posted - 2014.03.03 12:55:00 -
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There is this: whatever your reasons for battle to begin with, eventually you either become it, or you quit. It is not just that combat can be fun (it can) or that we come to enjoy victory (we will), but also that you can only follow a path so long before it becomes The Way.
But that we are personally changed by the experience does not mean the original reasons - kin, nation, our ways of life - cease to exist. And without those original reasons, the path would overgrow so much that not enough would follow it to maintain the battle.
Else Broadcast log:-áhttps://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Elsebeth%20Rhiannon/StatusUpdates |
Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
3214
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Posted - 2014.03.03 13:02:00 -
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Quote:Why do you fight, capsuleer?
The question seems to suppose that there's an alternative. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Cult of War
2158
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Posted - 2014.03.03 20:05:00 -
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I fight to protect my corporation and my country from those who wish to do them harm. Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |
Christine Peeveepeeski
Rodents of Unusual Size
514
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Posted - 2014.03.03 20:11:00 -
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Because someone showed up in local comms systems that didn't show up as positive standing towards me.
I used to have reasons, then the powers that be made a mockery of the empyrean wars allowing countless innocents to suffer in a war that is war in name only. Instead its just a game played by capsuleers that have no interest in anything beyond farming ludicrous amounts of LP.
Now I I just don't care who I shoot, no point having reasons beyond the pleasure in wanton destruction. I have an allegiance to very old friends who remain in the amarrian militia but other than those few anyone goes as targets. Oddly I've found a few people from both sides of the warzone find my new neutrality somewhat useful ^^ You sneaky matari devils you, not as clean cut as you'd like us to think... funny. Slavery sucks right? Any other ethical codes are fair game to break it seems.
Matari by blood, capsuleer by soul. I can't change how I look but I'll be damned if you get the wrong first impression heh.
Elsebeth does say something that resonates with something i had thought about in the past though. I have been shooting people for so long now it's just what i do... I don't just enjoy it, I revel in it, I live for it... I guess its just The Way.
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