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SpaceSaft
Sub Par. Beacon Light Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:02:00 -
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That's nice.
For the complete feature we need player created and faction based skins.
If your goal is only to sell CCP created skins with camouflage and or stripes in CCP selected colors for reasons of "preservation of the game's vision", scrap it.
Except the police skin for the Comet, these aren't worth the investment imo. Only to show my support for the idea I still might buy one of these skins.
Since as far as I can see both BPCs and the ships can be traded in game I don't care for the whole Aurum store part. It's still a bad idea since you already have a realmoney -> anygameitem conversion with PLEX and wouldn't need expansion or "iteration" on a useless feature (the aurum store). Besides that I also hold the opinion that CCP should make a PC version for Dust 514. |
Robert Parr
Iron Tiger T3 Industries
6
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:04:00 -
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^This!!!! +10 |
TheButcherPete
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
388
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:04:00 -
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There are lots of "OHGOD MICROTRANSACTIONS" idiots in this thread. Relax, it's just a ship skin. Don't like it? don't buy it! It's rather simple. I knew from the moment I seen a USD sign in the devblog you'd all be sperging here instead of in General Discussion. THE KING OF EVE RADIO
ElQuirko is my son |
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GM Nythanos
Game Masters C C P Alliance
114
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:06:00 -
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That Merlin Nugoeihuvi Edition, gonna have to pick up a few. GM Nythanos | Senior Game Master |
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Gregor Parud
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:07:00 -
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CCP Loktofeit wrote:Gregor Parud wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:Please note that this is a pilot project. If demand shows that you really like the ship paint, we will go ahead and implement a proper ship paint system. Your feedback is extremely valuable here! If you find any sort of excuse to not pursue this I will grab a plane to Iceland, go to your offices and **** on your door mat. and that's a promise. Take a number.
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Crasniya
Strange Energy Gentlemen's Agreement
409
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:07:00 -
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TheButcherPete wrote:There are lots of "OHGOD MICROTRANSACTIONS" idiots in this thread. Relax, it's just a ship skin. Don't like it? don't buy it! It's rather simple. I knew from the moment I seen a USD sign in the devblog you'd all be sperging here instead of in General Discussion.
Not only this, but plenty of players will buy these with the free AUR CCP gave them. (Most of the people crying about it have enough free AUR CCP gave them for several ship skins already.) And plenty of people will buy these with that AUR, and then list it in contracts for ISK.
This is really not much different than CCP selling PLEX. Players need to get over it. Technically, PLEX is about as pay-to-win as you can get, so selling some vanity items isn't an issue anyone should whine about. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2669
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:09:00 -
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Crasniya wrote:Paukinra wrote:This looks amazing, can't wait until we can paint more ships and I really hope it's possible to overcome that code to allow custom ships...
Please tell me you can overcome the old code? <3 It's not really a code problem. It's a data problem. You allow the skin, everyone who sees the ship has to download it's texture it to their computer. It's also a immersion problem, because they want ships to look like they fit the universe. Giving EVE players complete control of texturing would be a nightmare. So it has to be done in a way that won't allow you to abuse the design too much. There are ways. For example, divide a ship into 4 different customization areas, like primary color, secondary color, highlight color, and running lights. Then give 16 options for each. The client would already have all options stored in it. Then 2 bytes would tell the client what scheme each ship actually has. Yes, downloading 2 additional bytes per ship when trying to load grid is extra load, but not that much. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
TheButcherPete
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
389
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:09:00 -
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Crasniya wrote:TheButcherPete wrote:There are lots of "OHGOD MICROTRANSACTIONS" idiots in this thread. Relax, it's just a ship skin. Don't like it? don't buy it! It's rather simple. I knew from the moment I seen a USD sign in the devblog you'd all be sperging here instead of in General Discussion. Not only this, but plenty of players will buy these with the free AUR CCP gave them. (Most of the people crying about it have enough free AUR CCP gave them for several ship skins already.) And plenty of people will buy these with that AUR, and then list it in contracts for ISK. This is really not much different than CCP selling PLEX. Players need to get over it. Technically, PLEX is about as pay-to-win as you can get, so selling some vanity items isn't an issue anyone should whine about.
People need something to ***** about. A more appropriate topic would be how bad RUS)) are at this game. THE KING OF EVE RADIO
ElQuirko is my son |
Arkon Olacar
Blue-Fire
302
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:10:00 -
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Georgiy Giggle wrote:All I see: Here some paints you can buy in LP (about 10% of all options) and 90% of other paints please buy for real money. When did even became a 'you have to pay real money even for items'? Oh, I know, sience you add AURUM.
All I offer: make it both in market (or LP) and in AURUM shop. So if pilot is too lazy to earn some isk, then he can use credit card to buy a useless item.
Looks like: All devs are staring at screens and yelling GIVE ME YOUR REAL MONEY!!!!
Come on guys. Remove donations from game. I'm quite sure you have enought subscribers. And will have more if you stup doing such donatable features as this one. You are an idiot and should stop posting immediatly
I'll even give you a hint:
There's this thing called the market, don't tell anyone Warping to zero |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1104
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:10:00 -
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As someone who rioted over the whole greed is good fiasco, I can only say that I love this idea!
That's one sexy looking punisher and I want one.
Plus it's obvious from the blog that CCP are not interested in introducing game changing advantages for aur/plex this is only an iteration of the type of customisations that Eve players have been clamouring for, for years! Plus initial costs are so cheap that no one can possibly begrudge CCP the cash. I've also noted that CCP are also looking at having LP as a possible source for customisations too, which is also a good thing.
I think it's wonderful. I hope the pilot is hugely successful and we get more of this type of thing.
Well done CCP!
P.S. can we now have some more clothes for our avatars on the same basis.
Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
1865
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:11:00 -
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Woop, woop!
It's the sound of the-
KRUSUAL FLEET. |
Ali Aras
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
614
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:13:00 -
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SpaceSaft wrote:That's nice.
For the complete feature we need player created and faction based skins.
Y'know, I agree with this-- I'd love to be able to fly my alliance colors with pride. It's something I've been pushing to CCP, but it's also something that just would not be possible under the BPC thing (imagine if everyone had to scroll past "Vindicator Noir Edition"). So, here's me hoping that this pilot succeeds, and the systems will be put in place that allow alliance skins ;-) http://warp-to-sun.tumblr.com -- my blog |
Silivar Karkun
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
179
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:16:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Crasniya wrote:Paukinra wrote:This looks amazing, can't wait until we can paint more ships and I really hope it's possible to overcome that code to allow custom ships...
Please tell me you can overcome the old code? <3 It's not really a code problem. It's a data problem. You allow the skin, everyone who sees the ship has to download it's texture it to their computer. It's also a immersion problem, because they want ships to look like they fit the universe. Giving EVE players complete control of texturing would be a nightmare. So it has to be done in a way that won't allow you to abuse the design too much. There are ways. For example, divide a ship into 4 different customization areas, like primary color, secondary color, highlight color, and running lights. Then give 16 options for each. The client would already have all options stored in it. Then 2 bytes would tell the client what scheme each ship actually has. Yes, downloading 2 additional bytes per ship when trying to load grid is extra load, but not that much.
^this |
Alistair Cononach
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
181
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:16:00 -
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I strongly support ship skin customization.
NPC skins is a perfect choice for the first step into that realm, and I will support it by painting all my Abaddons.
However, as the program goes forward, I would suggest two things:
-Arum is a dead concept. NPC paint schemes should be sold for Loyalty Points for that Corp.
-"Manufacturing" a painted ship is an overly complicated mechanic for a simple thing. I would strongly suggest the addition of a "Paint" rig slot and paint schemes as "paint rigs" that fit these slots, and hence color the ship accordingly. Simpler, smoother, less complicated, and yet still limit recycling as rigs are destroyed when the ship is, cannot be removed, etc. forstering an active market.
Overall, very glad to see this moving forward.
Sarum Warfleet, assemble (eventually)! |
TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
568
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:18:00 -
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how do you pronounce 'nugoeihuvi'? |
Arthur Aihaken
Perkone Caldari State
2995
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:20:00 -
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CCP Legion wrote:Looking forward to hearing thoughts on this pilot program. Love it - can't wait for the number of themes to be expanded across a greater number of ships! I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |
Glasgow Dunlop
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
126
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:20:00 -
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Id use it if AURUM wasn't anywhere near it, but it is, so pass.
I love the IDEA of it, just not the execution.
Remember a patch called Incarna twitter: @glasgowdunlop-á Glasgow Meet 29th March http://www.tinyurl.com/evemeet0 |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
9409
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:22:00 -
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TrouserDeagle wrote:how do you pronounce 'nugoeihuvi'?
No idea, I just say NOH. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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Dredastttarm
Rhalden
13
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:23:00 -
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After reading the article I shed a tear and thought "It's happening" :3
CAN'T WAIT! I make YouTube videos and so on... Watch me do silly things here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Internetzspacezshipz? |
Silivar Karkun
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
179
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:23:00 -
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it doesnt really need to be based in BPCs and that stuff, thas the problem, if they could extend the code Carbon uses for characters, then it would be able to be used for spaceships, it would allow for a diverse field of colors and model customizations, skins would be saved in the database the same way as player owned clothing....
it means a large amount of coding of course, but would be better than making this a manufacturing process....... |
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2669
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:24:00 -
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Question: If I want to apply one of these BPCs to a ship, does it have to be a packaged ship? If I got an existing ship that happens to be rigged, is that unusable? http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon Backseat Promises
1022
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:24:00 -
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I like these new skins, but I would like to be able to make my own skins.
If there would be an issue with load, have another user's ship only load their pattern if you click "look at". Alternatively you could load the whole field by an option (similar to remove all tags from overview).
Methods of dealing with vulgar/copyrighted skins would be something else, however, and it's understandable to start small. |
Silivar Karkun
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
179
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:26:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Question: If I want to apply one of these BPCs to a ship, does it have to be a packaged ship? If I got an existing ship that happens to be rigged, is that unusable?
that's the main problem if its gonna be based in BPCs then it would mean that only packaged ships will be able to receive the paintjob.......
a complete ship customization editor would be better for this idea..... |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
1047
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:26:00 -
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The in game PLEX prices are gonna end up driving me out of the game if CCP keeps introducing all this stuff you can buy for PLEX. Already starting to seem like work to get the ISK for the PLEX I need to fund my accounts. Adding new shinies for PLEX will only make them go up in price.
Not complaining really, just saying. Perhaps CCP should permanently adjust the pricing on their PLEX so more people buy them, in turn, driving the prices down some for them in game. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
1866
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:26:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:TrouserDeagle wrote:how do you pronounce 'nugoeihuvi'? No idea, I just say NOH.
Personally, I use "Nuu-GAY-HYOO-vee". |
Zarnak Wulf
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
1559
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:26:00 -
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WTF- where is my Hello Kitty Vagabond CCP?!? |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2043
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:27:00 -
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I am not sure that I would ever have any of my ships painted, but I am delighted that CCP are making the option available to the players.
Mind you, the Hyperion does look rather good.
Well done CCP. This is not a signature. |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
1866
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:29:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:The in game PLEX prices are gonna end up driving me out of the game if CCP keeps introducing all this stuff you can buy for PLEX. Already starting to seem like work to get the ISK for the PLEX I need to fund my accounts. Adding new shinies for PLEX will only make them go up in price.
Not complaining really, just saying. Perhaps CCP should permanently adjust the pricing on their PLEX so more people buy them, in turn, driving the prices down some for them in game.
I doubt CCP will bring the price of PLEX down, but since you can buy Aurum directly it might not be a bad idea to ensure that the amount you get is in line with the amount you get from PLEX --> Aurum conversion. |
Yuri Thorpe
EnRon co.
5
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:31:00 -
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What about faction battleships? Will they work the same? I only ask because of the piorate bs's |
Gorion Wassenar
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
90
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Posted - 2014.03.06 18:32:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:TrouserDeagle wrote:how do you pronounce 'nugoeihuvi'? No idea, I just say NOH.
New-goi-who-vee Rote Kapelle - NOW IN SLIGHTLY MORE LAW ABIDING FLAVOR!
"DRINK STARSI!" -¬-«GäóOwnership Group Chairman |
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