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Zabrina
Half Moon Bay Ventures
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Posted - 2014.03.08 00:30:00 -
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I haven't played for years and I've been back a week turning mu 3 tunes, emptying obsolete hangers and ramping up production on with my T2 BPOs when I was solo ganked by by 1 player with sentry drones. Is this the new OP? Tto rub it in, they didn't get concorded. I though people are always concorded in empire?
About 225m lost total in cargo and ship and I dropped around 150m items / gear.
The only thing I'm sad about is I just turned in LP for about 50k rounds of faction medium projectile (Fusion M) ( Fusion S)
Victim: Zabrina Corp: Half Moon Bay Ventures Alliance: Unknown Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Iteron Mark V System: Colelie Security: 0.5 Damage Taken: 1706
Involved parties:
Name: Nordika (laid the final blow) Security: -0.20 Corp: Ganked And T Bagged Alliance: None Faction: None Ship: Vexor Weapon: Garde II Damage Done: 1706
Destroyed items:
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Mag's
the united SCUM.
16852
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Posted - 2014.03.08 00:32:00 -
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Unless they had rights of engagement, then they would have been concordokenedddddd. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. Kimmi's Thinking Cosy. |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1126
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Posted - 2014.03.08 00:33:00 -
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Assuming no-one had kill rights on you & you weren't suspect, make a petition. CCP should deal with it. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2993
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Posted - 2014.03.08 00:38:00 -
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It's highly likely you just didn't live long enough to see them die.
If they podded you, that's definitely the case.
Either way, you are not giving enough information to determine the cause. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Alice Ituin
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
61
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Posted - 2014.03.08 00:39:00 -
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Just a normal solo vexor gank. Cargo fit iteron V with 500 mio in cargo is a gank magnet. |
Doireen Kaundur
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Posted - 2014.03.08 00:44:00 -
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Maybe they "know "someone in Concord? Bribe? Minimizing the cost of replacing implants.
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Zabrina
Half Moon Bay Ventures
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Posted - 2014.03.08 00:56:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:It's highly likely you just didn't live long enough to see them die.
If they podded you, that's definitely the case.
Either way, you are not giving enough information to determine the cause.
Isn't it considered rude to post kill mail on EVE forums?
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
531
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Posted - 2014.03.08 01:01:00 -
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Zabrina wrote:Isn't it considered rude to post kill mail on EVE forums? Not rude, just against the rules.
The rulez are rulez and there's no scope to apply them in terms of their original intent.
eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |
Noddy Comet
Lysdexic Agnostics - Thier is no Dog
151
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Posted - 2014.03.08 01:19:00 -
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Just out of curiosity, how many shots did you get off onto his mobile tractor unit before he blasted you?? "The biggest problem with quotes on the Internet, is that just because it's on the Internet too many believe them to be real" -Abraham Lincoln's "Berlin Wall" speech at the 1984 Winter Olympics. |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
4132
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Posted - 2014.03.08 01:26:00 -
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Appears not just ganked, but tea bagged as well. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
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Zabrina
Half Moon Bay Ventures
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Posted - 2014.03.08 01:32:00 -
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Noddy Comet wrote:Just out of curiosity, how many shots did you get off onto his mobile tractor unit before he blasted you??
Farming likes? Has your life come down to this? |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
4132
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Posted - 2014.03.08 01:39:00 -
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Zabrina wrote:Noddy Comet wrote:Just out of curiosity, how many shots did you get off onto his mobile tractor unit before he blasted you?? Farming likes? Has your life come down to this?
People are trying to help you solve the mystery, be nice.
You came to GD for help. We are here to help you. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Zabrina
Half Moon Bay Ventures
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Posted - 2014.03.08 02:06:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Zabrina wrote:Noddy Comet wrote:Just out of curiosity, how many shots did you get off onto his mobile tractor unit before he blasted you?? Farming likes? Has your life come down to this? People are trying to help you solve the mystery, be nice. You came to GD for help. We are here to help you.
Okay, just wondering what part of AFK hauling you missed. I've been back a week. Havn't even killed a rat yet. You know how much you forget after 3 years?
I come back, I can fly ships that according to the skill requirements say I can't. My cyno alt has about 7 days of training again andI get ganked by a solo player with sentry drones.
What's in store for my Obelisk, Orca? |
Tydeth Gilitae
Magewright Artificers
62
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Posted - 2014.03.08 02:07:00 -
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In a 0.5 system like Colelie, a ganker has plenty of time to do his thing before Concord arrives to put a stop to it, especially if Concord spawns have been previously manipulated/prepared/moved in the system. Concord doesn't notify the victims (or any killboards unless a player did damage before they popped him) that they've done their job. It's likely that if he ganked you, his Vexor did it so quickly that you could not last long enough to see the Concord ship, especially if you had Cargo Expanders in your low slots and/or cargo rigs.
That said, there are ways to not get Concorded in High-sec: - War declared between two player corps. - One of the parties is a suspect and the other shot him - Duel - Same-corp Teamkilling, aka AWOXing - Both parties are in Faction War as enemies (which means one of them is being chased by navy NPCs and a message would have popped up for everyone declaring him to be an enemy) - One of the parties is -5.0 sec status or lower, and the other shot him first. |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
495
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Posted - 2014.03.08 02:17:00 -
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Well from looking at your corp you dont have any wars and arent in faction warfare so that eliminates the two biggest causes. I think I have to lean towards the 'getting podded meant you missed him getting killed' angle, it tends not to show on the major killboards because most of them dont register killmails by NPCs. You could try checking his corp killboard and see if it shows there. Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
4132
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Posted - 2014.03.08 02:32:00 -
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Oh well if you were afk hauling, that's a problem. You will need a permit and abide by the Code. You can learn more at www.minerbumping.com See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
187
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Posted - 2014.03.08 03:30:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Oh well if you were afk hauling, that's a problem. You will need a permit and abide by the Code. You can learn more at www.minerbumping.com
i dont think theres a code or a permit for afk hauling - such an activity is wrong on every front lol |
Muestereate
Minions LLC
184
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Posted - 2014.03.08 03:31:00 -
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Well first, welcome back. I can't say how they avoided concord either. I don't know that they can eject fast enough or log. But in the time you've been gone, ganking in high sec has become a fine art. There are a few really nice guides out there that explain a lot of the fine points, there are ways to bait concord that increases their response time too. Usually they use catalysts, they can get 600 plus dps but its short range. A vexor while costing more can conceivably outdamage it but with a lot more range. CCP approves of this gameplay and it has really flourished.
Don't autopilot with anything in your cargo, get a cloaky transport. YOu may be surpised that you can get instalocked also. Stay awake and learn the camps. They are usually a couple .5's or a .5 and a .6 in a row. If you cost in, they have plenty of time to passive scan you and pass the information on to the .5 system. Make sure you have instabookmarks out of the trade hubs and anywhere else. I'm not even sure that they care what you have sometimes. Assume you'll be locked and shot at undocking from Jita. get something cheap and fast, burn straigt out for quite a way and set a bookmark, then test it for being a straight enough line to instawarp. That will take care of single players, the pipes will be two players or a multiboxed scanning alt. Watch out for tornadoes. A lot more expensive but huge alpha damage that can take you out in one shot if your cargo looks like a reasonable gamble.
On your toes. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1266
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Posted - 2014.03.08 03:39:00 -
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Looked at your km. Your attacker is an obvious ganker with many ships lost to CONCORD. I'm sure this one was as well. Your mistake is thinking CONCORD is there to protect you. They aren't. Like the RL cops, they show up, eventually, to punish the bad guy, not save you. They even right a nice report for you and send it to the killboards. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
Zabrina
Half Moon Bay Ventures
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Posted - 2014.03.08 04:09:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Looked at your km. Your attacker is an obvious ganker with many ships lost to CONCORD. I'm sure this one was as well. Your mistake is thinking CONCORD is there to protect you. They aren't. Like the RL cops, they show up, eventually, to punish the bad guy, not save you. They even right a nice report for you and send it to the killboards.
No, I understand concord is not there to protect me. There must be something about sentry drones interaction in highsec , concord, and PVP.
I just remember the day I smartbombed somebody out during a mission and got punished in no time flat. This one was rather sad as I never saw Concord. Just my hull melt. |
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2994
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Posted - 2014.03.08 04:12:00 -
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Zabrina wrote:Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Looked at your km. Your attacker is an obvious ganker with many ships lost to CONCORD. I'm sure this one was as well. Your mistake is thinking CONCORD is there to protect you. They aren't. Like the RL cops, they show up, eventually, to punish the bad guy, not save you. They even right a nice report for you and send it to the killboards. No, I understand concord is not there to protect me. There must be something about sentry drones interaction in highsec , concord, and PVP. I just remember the day I smartbombed somebody out during a mission and got punished in no time flat. This one was rather sad as I never saw Concord. Just my hull melt.
You're bound and determined to remain ignorant of this, aren't you?
You were in a 0.5 system in a negative tanked ship.
I could kill you and pod you in a 4 week old alt before CONCORD got there, this guy probably had time to smoke a cigarette and kill somebody else.
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1266
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Posted - 2014.03.08 04:25:00 -
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Zabrina wrote:Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Looked at your km. Your attacker is an obvious ganker with many ships lost to CONCORD. I'm sure this one was as well. Your mistake is thinking CONCORD is there to protect you. They aren't. Like the RL cops, they show up, eventually, to punish the bad guy, not save you. They even right a nice report for you and send it to the killboards. No, I understand concord is not there to protect me. There must be something about sentry drones interaction in highsec , concord, and PVP. I just remember the day I smartbombed somebody out during a mission and got punished in no time flat. This one was rather sad as I never saw Concord. Just my hull melt.
Your Itty 5 took 1,706 damage. I'd be surprised if you heard the warning siren before you were dead. CONCORD didn't show up for 25 seconds. You were already dead by then. The guy could have wiped a fleet of Itty's in 25 seconds. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
Leolook
Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn
0
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Posted - 2014.03.08 04:32:00 -
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see what you are missing is that it take about 20 sec or so for concord to show up in a 0.5 system if you was afk on auto then you may have missed the show being you was not on your ball to see it .....heck you did say it was a long rang a ship is dam small out that far and who knows what grafx setting you are using if it is set low he may have been a speck on your screen you would not have seen him blow up
bottom line with the way the button works now with the gates if you was not AFK you would have warped and jumped before he had a chance to lock you up.
don't AFK when you have that much ISK in your hold take this as a lesson I learned the hard way also lost about 400-500 mill in a gank and have not used auto when moving stuff since |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17025
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Posted - 2014.03.08 05:03:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote: You're bound and determined to remain ignorant of this, aren't you?
You were in a 0.5 system in a negative tanked ship.
I could kill you and pod you in a 4 week old alt before CONCORD got there, this guy probably had time to smoke a cigarette and kill somebody else.
1/2 a billion isk in a ship made of toilet tissue.... I'm surprised OP made it more than 1 jump into a highsec pipe tbh.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
2995
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Posted - 2014.03.08 05:48:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: You're bound and determined to remain ignorant of this, aren't you?
You were in a 0.5 system in a negative tanked ship.
I could kill you and pod you in a 4 week old alt before CONCORD got there, this guy probably had time to smoke a cigarette and kill somebody else.
1/2 a billion isk in a ship made of toilet tissue.... I'm surprised OP made it more than 1 jump into a highsec pipe tbh.
Try sitting on a gate with a scanner alt for a while in one of the pipe areas.
You'd be surprised how many people straight up get away with crap like that. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17026
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Posted - 2014.03.08 06:01:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:You'd be surprised how many people straight up get away with crap like that. I don't doubt it, the horror stories about an epidemic of industrial ganks are pretty much butthurt tears from those who can't be arsed to fit a ship properly.
I'm more surprised at how low a level it actually is, with max cargo t1 haulers carrying significant amounts of isk I'd have thought more people would be taking advantage of others laziness and ignorance.
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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
2867
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Posted - 2014.03.08 06:07:00 -
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Concord takes about 20 seconds to respond in 0.5 iirc. Oh god. |
MutnantRebel
Shamrock a knock Inc.
9
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Posted - 2014.03.08 07:25:00 -
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... Are we crying? Seriously? I was a 2 week old noob and got ganked losing all I had, and I didn't cry about it. Rule #1, don't fly it (or haul it) if you can't afford to lose it. I knew that my first day subbing. Grow a thicker hull yo! NO I will not take your sister for payment! I'm married to one sister already! |
Your Dad Naked
State War Academy Caldari State
148
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Posted - 2014.03.08 08:53:00 -
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Use the Nereus from now on. Iteron, Tayra, Mammoth and Bestower cannot fit a respectable tank.
[Nereus, Tanked]
2x Large Shield Extender II 3x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Damage Control II 4x Local Hull Conversion Expanded Cargo I
3x Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
[Nereus, Cargo]
2x Large Shield Extender II 3x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Damage Control II 4x Local Hull Conversion Expanded Cargo I
3x Medium Cargohold Optimization I |
ST0NER SMURF
Vrix Nation
223
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Posted - 2014.03.08 09:45:00 -
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Aramatheia wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Oh well if you were afk hauling, that's a problem. You will need a permit and abide by the Code. You can learn more at www.minerbumping.com i dont think theres a code or a permit for afk hauling - such an activity is wrong on every front lol
there is.. yust 1 outside of the code ;o
Greetings, fellow Capsuleer,
It has come to our attention that you have been using auto pilot without a license. As you are probably aware, auto pilot licenses have been required to use auto pilot since the Pilot Protection Act was signed. .......... The main reason behind this Act was to help prevent many of the accidents caused from by the use of auto pilot.
We are sorry for the inconvenience caused by the loss of your ship, but when it comes to pilot safety, we found that actions speak louder than words.
If you wish to continue using auto pilot, to you will be required to apply for a 1 year license. The application fee will be determined by the class of the permit you are applying for. The classes are broken down as follows:
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If you wish to apply, send the application fee to Mr Vrix , with the class you are applying for in the description. Your application fee will be processed within 24 hours, and you will receive a confirmation mail when it has been accepted. All questions and comments can be sent to ST0NER SMURF
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