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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19886
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Posted - 2014.03.12 13:48:00 -
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Bael Malefic wrote:If that is indeed the case, and switching all accounts to paid subscriptions would in fact reduce the revenue stream by 30%, then perhaps the current model is the best one possible for the time being. In that case I'd simply wonder how to sell more PLEX and hope the pubbies keep buying them. See, that's the thing with your problem formulation: you assume that there are only two opposing extremist views. Either everyone would pay a sub (never mind that removing the PLEX option would in many cases mean that those people would stop playing and that a PLEXed account earns CCP more money than a subscribed account) or everyone would trend towards solely using PLEX (never mind that many people would rather stab themselves in the throat than do any kind of monthly grind).
In reality, we have a situation where some people prefer it one way and some people prefer it another (and some do both or even a fourth variation). PLEX lets CCP serve all those needs and keep everyone happy on top of offering a partial solution to the RMT plague.
Quote:Sometimes I forget that these forums are actually all about flames/trolls. I shall refrain from trying to make any constructive comments in future and stick to snarky comments aimed at other posters. After all, this is EVE. Who's been flaming and trolling? The reason people aren't buying your idea is because it has shown to be somewhat detached from the realities of how people actually behave and of how CCP makes money.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Bael Malefic
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2014.03.12 13:56:00 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:I get what some people are trying to say, the existance of PLEX does front-load the system, since people paying money for PLEX are going to be the same people paying for a subscription (because I like to think no-one would be dumb enough to buy PLEX for money, then use them for their sub), while the people buying PLEX for isk to sub their game, aren't going to be buying them for money too.
So in effect, half the players are paying for all the subscriptions, making the game less resistant to a sudden outflux of players (since people playing for free have no reason to stop their subs if temporarily unhappy with the game, so any outflux is going to be in the paying half, and cause double the hit). That said, since a PLEX bought today doesn't have to be used on a sub for months or even years in the future, CCP is getting their hands on a large chunk of sub-money early, and assuming they treat it as that (and don't just spend it as "free money"), the price and abundance/scarcity of PLEX on the market can give an early-warning system to CCP that something is amiss. If people stop buying PLEX, CCP can react before the supply dries up, using these "early paid subs" as a safety net to buy them time to correct whatever caused the outflux.
That might be spot on.
So maybe a better framed question:
How does CCP keep that RL-money paying group of players attached to the game and keep them buying PLEX? Especially as PLEX scarcity would indeed be a big red warning light that something was amiss?
And is the current spike in PLEX price a big red warning light or a temporary fluctuation triggered by upcoming "perks?"
I admit I might be "somewhat detached" from how people behave related to this game. I am not an expert on all things EVE and never will be. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19887
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Posted - 2014.03.12 14:07:00 -
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Bael Malefic wrote:How does CCP keep that RL-money paying group of players attached to the game and keep them buying PLEX? The same way the keep everyone else attached to the game, presumably: by providing and maintaining a sandbox in which they can have fun.
Quote:And is the current spike in PLEX price a big red warning light or a temporary fluctuation triggered by upcoming "perks?" Vast amounts of stuff have been lost recently and both old and new uses for PLEX have been (re)introduced. It's hardly surprising if the stockpiles are running a bit low. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
152
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Posted - 2014.03.12 14:29:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Quote:And is the current spike in PLEX price a big red warning light or a temporary fluctuation triggered by upcoming "perks?" Vast amounts of stuff have been lost recently and both old and new uses for PLEX have been (re)introduced. It's hardly surprising if the stockpiles are running a bit low.
Dont forget ship skins. Lots of speculation has been going on about that. Usually, speculation on an item before a patch makes that item more expensive, at least temporary. This time its AUR, and as such, PLEX. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
2328
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Posted - 2014.03.12 14:30:00 -
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While this plex price explosion is a disaster for the causal non-rich player, one way that CCP benefits is the fact that RMT sellers get hurt. If the price of a plex rises, and that is directly tied to the black market rate for RMT, then 1 billon ISK sold is not going to gain as much real cash as before.
6 months ago, 575 million ISK would net around, what, 12 bucks? (assuming a plex price ingame was around 575M in Sept) When plexes hit a billion, that same 575 million ISK will net around 7 bucks.
But given that the null sec cartels are creating far more ISK than they could ever possibly sell, not sure how the pieces all fall together, and if their real life incomes are affected that much.
So maybe CCP is OK with the future of plex prices at some ridiculous number. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19889
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Posted - 2014.03.12 14:34:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:While this plex price explosion is a disaster for the causal non-rich player That doesn't make much sense. The casual non-rich player would presumably be one who pays a regular subscription. After all, they're casual and non-rich and thus aren't the type to grind tons of ISK every month.
Quote:But given that the null sec cartels are creating far more ISK than they could ever possibly sell, not sure how the pieces all fall together, and if their real life incomes are affected that much. Do you have anything to actually support any of this nonsense? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
cynobutt
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.03.12 14:48:00 -
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Plex are too cheap as it is. When they hit a billion its still only 33 mill per day to plex an account and that can be done easily just from bounties of most level 4 missions. |
Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
216
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Posted - 2014.03.12 15:11:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:While this plex price explosion is a disaster for the causal non-rich player,
Actually, its more the middle-class getting hit, the players who are rich enough (currently) to PLEX an account, as they now have to work harder for the same "income". Isk-poor players are the ones more likely to be selling PLEX occasionally to make up their wallets, so will actually be getting more isk for their pound/dollar/ruble, so its party-time for them.
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Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
166
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Posted - 2014.03.12 15:51:00 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:While this plex price explosion is a disaster for the causal non-rich player, Actually, its more the middle-class getting hit, the players who are rich enough (currently) to PLEX an account, as they now have to work harder for the same "income". Isk-poor players are the ones more likely to be selling PLEX occasionally to make up their wallets, so will actually be getting more isk for their pound/dollar/ruble, so its party-time for them.
As someone who has a lot more money than time, it is indeed party time. |
Harry Forever
SpaceJunkys
1033
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Posted - 2014.03.12 16:41:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:What the hell is going on.
20 million... wow YouTube - Tumblr - Facebook - Twitter |
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Bael Malefic
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2014.03.12 18:41:00 -
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Harry Forever wrote:Knights Armament wrote:What the hell is going on. 20 million... wow
Up and up and up it goes...checking in Eve Central today has been a bit of an eye-popping experience.
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Yuri Fedorov
Serenity Profits
0
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Posted - 2014.03.12 21:02:00 -
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Watching the prices lately has convinced me to buy a month or 2. I can't spend 700m isk per plex every month, that's just crazy.
Hoping for a plex sale by the end of the month now. |
Tekniq
Bionic Systems
8
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Posted - 2014.03.12 21:38:00 -
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how about pay for the game with real money - for real working people?
I hope plex prices go over 1 billion.. |
Baron Chauman
Dread Phoenix Society Fidelas Constans
11
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Posted - 2014.03.12 21:49:00 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Actually, its more the middle-class getting hit, the players who are rich enough (currently) to PLEX an account, as they now have to work harder for the same "income".
True, and they are the ones more likely to quit because of spikes like these, especially if they grind for a new plex every month, living on the edge, rather than have 100b in their wallet constantly. This isn't too uncommon (even in null as opposed to what some seem to believe). |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14070
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Posted - 2014.03.12 22:15:00 -
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Bael Malefic wrote:Malcanis wrote:
Your plan improve stability by reducing CCP's revenue by about 30% is interesting. Can you explain how definitely earning $700 per month is better than earning ~$950-$1050 per month?
I don't know what the proportion of CCP revenue derived from PLEX sales is vs. paid subscriptions or what the revenue impact would be of switching PLEX over to subs. If that is indeed the case, and switching all accounts to paid subscriptions would in fact reduce the revenue stream by 30%, then perhaps the current model is the best one possible for the time being. In that case I'd simply wonder how to sell more PLEX and hope the pubbies keep buying them. Sometimes I forget that these forums are actually all about flames/trolls. I shall refrain from trying to make any constructive comments in future and stick to snarky comments aimed at other posters. After all, this is EVE.
It seems a pity that your well meant business advise, based on your admitted lack of knowledge, isn't taken more seriously.
CCP will be sorry
1 Kings 12:11
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
421
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Posted - 2014.03.12 22:51:00 -
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meh ... bull market ... speculation ... no actual significant increase in demand for PLEX ... it will settle
though much like overpriced real estate, once prices get out of kilter they rarely adjust downwards, the market just stagnates |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
526
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:33:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:Icarus Able wrote:Its more expensive on weekends because more people are online? Possibly, but someone is buying up most of the plex and relisting, driving prices up. I thought CCP flooded the market with plex to prevent this type of behavior? What is to stop large alliances from using their vast income to buy up all the plex? They have not printed new PLEX to do this.. In the past, they used a pool of existing in game PLEX that had been taken from banned accounts. For the record there are other steps they could take other than flooding the market with PLEX. -á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
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Mr LaboratoryRat
Confederation of DuckTape Lovers
52
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:40:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Player market controls price of PLEX ingame. No need for external regulation.
Since all PLEXs are introduced into the game by someone paying IRL money in some form, that part is externally regulated by CCPs pricing, and CCP doesnt need to worry about the ingame price of PLEX interms of their revenue from players maintaining account time.
I agree a rise in PLEX value ingame is to be expected in anticipation of the ship paintjobs. This because PLEX is the ingame item convertible to AUR.
So there is a connection between the demand on AUR items and PLEX.
Again, there is no need for external regulation on this, because PLEX as the ingame item convertible to AUR, is only introduced into the game by someone somewhere buying ine with IRL money.
AUR, however, can also be purchased from CCP directly out of game. So if it should happen that demand for AUR items raises so high that it raises PLEX to an unsustainable level (ie: where people are paying so much ISK for PLEX to either maintain gametime or purchase AUR, people will start buying the AUR directly from CCP instead, and the PLEX will devalue eventually to a point where it is more inline with peoples capacity to generate ISK for purposes of maintaining gametime.
So no need to worry, and no need for internal regulation. PLEX price ingame is player controlled. If rising PLEX prices make it harder for people to maintain their account time, that is simply because other playersmaremcharging more, and they will simply have to adapt either by playing harder or more profitably, or obtaining gametime by out of game means. Noteably, another factor is that the higher the value of PLEX ingame is, the more lucrative it is for people to buy PLEX from CCP and sell ingame, which again will serve to reduce PLEX price as supply increases.
TLDR: The more demand there is for AUR items, the higher PLEX price will rise (especially at this point where buying AUR from CCP is (to my perception atleast) still quite uncommon. The existing pool of PLEX ingame, will also drop, owing to people converting them into AUR now, as well as using them for account maintenance, which was the only primary PLEX sink at this point. So even as demand for PLEX increases (to convert into AUR) that also means a direct reduction in PLEX supply, which further increases the foreseeable price of PLEX in ISK.
The proposed current AUR price for paintjobs, is quite low. So low, infact, that converting a PLEX will get you more AUR than what most people even really have use for in terms of just buying the paintjobs. So though AUR items will drain some PLEX, its not likelyto be all that many in the long run.
Make no mistake though, PLEX prices will certainly spike noticeably as we get closer to an actual release of the AUR paintjobs. I have no doubt that many speculative players can see this eventuality, and are either ensuring they get the PLEZ they need for upcoming months, now, before that happens (therefore driving price up now) but also those whonanticipate being able to sell PLEX in that spike period for substantial profit.
No cause for panic. Everything is as it should be.
You type like a dev, are you a dev?
btw we all know the "free market" is a illusion only believed by optimist. I am on the other hand a realist and find the plex developments over the year, from introduction to now, very interesting and quationable.... |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
526
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:49:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:What the hell is going on. I'm not seeing it. I see a 10 million increase in 24 hours... and though that is a spike, it's not the largest spike that has ever happened. -á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
424
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:57:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:Knights Armament wrote:What the hell is going on. I'm not seeing it. I see a 10 million increase in 24 hours... and though that is a spike, it's not the largest spike that has ever happened.
30 mill in 2.5 days |
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Kiryen O'Bannon
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
86
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Posted - 2014.03.13 02:05:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:While this plex price explosion is a disaster for the causal non-rich player, one way that CCP benefits is the fact that RMT sellers get hurt. If the price of a plex rises, and that is directly tied to the black market rate for RMT, then 1 billon ISK sold is not going to gain as much real cash as before.
6 months ago, 575 million ISK would net around, what, 12 bucks? (assuming a plex price ingame was around 575M in Sept) When plexes hit a billion, that same 575 million ISK will net around 7 bucks.
But given that the null sec cartels are creating far more ISK than they could ever possibly sell, not sure how the pieces all fall together, and if their real life incomes are affected that much.
So maybe CCP is OK with the future of plex prices at some ridiculous number.
Are you completely ******* crazy? This PLEX price is a jackpot for a casual non-rich player!
People like me, who have exactly one account are the people who purchase the PLEX and sell them occasionally when things don't go so well for the ISK-making. I don't have incursion or mission alts to generate highsec income, I'm not in null farming whatever the **** they farm out there (haven't even been to our new station yet) and if I lose an HAC or a T3 or a BB, sometimes I'm too short to replace it from in game funds.
Fortunately, I have a good job in real life (2, in fact) and every so often I can treat myself to an infusion of cash so that I can fly things more expensive than T1 BCs or assault frigates.
If you're a casual non-rich player, by definition you can't be the one BUYING PLEX with ISK, you have to be the one SELLING them. If casual, non-rich players could buy PLEX with ISK, there wouldn't be any PLEX on the market because NO ONE would need to buy them with real money and CCP would have.. no income because practically EVERYONE could PLEX their account.
It is not some sort of EVE social ill that everyone can't achieve the dream of playing for free on in-game funds, any more than it's some sort of social ill that video games might be too expensive for some people in certain circumstances or parts of the world. Video games are a luxury. If you can't afford them with your RL income.. tough ****. I have sympathy for people that have a hard time feeding their children, not people who have a hard time funding their internet pew-pew. |
doberz
Offline.
0
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Posted - 2014.03.17 23:50:00 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:No cause for panic. Everything is as it should be. Posting about plex spikes and ranting a bit is precisely the thing to do, with a variety of possible benefits
- Traders with stockpiles spot the panic and start dumping. Plex is a reasonably popular long term investment for people taking a break so reporting it alerts the unsubbed - particularly if it hits a news site
- People who might have been about to buy RMT ISK decide they get better value for money from CCP
- People who occasionally buy Plex to buffer their funds decide now is when they'll get the most return
- CCP spot the yelling and dump some confiscated Plex to try stabilise things
- CCP rub their paws together and run a discount Plex offer to cash in
- CCP adjust the amount of Aurum available for direct sale (currently 2500 Aur for -ú12.99 vs 3500 from a plex)
- Somerblink finds a few trillion stashed and an inventive way to RMT it for ETC sales
All of those work to drive prices back down, and benefit the playerbase. So - everybody panic - it's for the best. Re the whole plexing vs paying debate - it's really down to how you value your time and enjoy spending it. Pay with real money by all means, buy the odd plex and sell it to me. But please don't do the smug justification of how much you earn ph or pay for cinema tickets irl. If you only have one account in game you're probably playing very narrowly. $10 or -ú10 a month sounds reasonable until you consider many players have multiple accounts - at which point Eve is comparitively expensive. Not everyone grinds NPCs until their fingers bleed for plex subs either - some of us genuinely enjoy the strategic side of large scale ISK making to the point our enjoyment hinges on it. Just the same as #mindless mission runner 7480 - making ISK for no reason at all other than a sense of achievement. At the extreme end of that are people who will unsub if they see inflation as curbing their enjoyment and returning players (on promo return offers) disgusted at inflation without time to find the new faucets. CCP clearly do monitor this or they would never have committed to intervening where required.
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Kyperion
General Washington's Irregulars
98
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Posted - 2014.03.17 23:55:00 -
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PLEX is down, and CCP is advertising plex sale methinks, crisis averted |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
461
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Posted - 2014.03.17 23:57:00 -
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Kyperion wrote:PLEX is down, and CCP is advertising plex sale methinks, crisis averted
There never was one. The OP posted somewhere above he had his sells sorted by location instead of price and misread the market pricing. |
Vance Armistice
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2014.03.18 06:49:00 -
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Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:While this plex price explosion is a disaster for the causal non-rich player, one way that CCP benefits is the fact that RMT sellers get hurt. If the price of a plex rises, and that is directly tied to the black market rate for RMT, then 1 billon ISK sold is not going to gain as much real cash as before.
6 months ago, 575 million ISK would net around, what, 12 bucks? (assuming a plex price ingame was around 575M in Sept) When plexes hit a billion, that same 575 million ISK will net around 7 bucks.
But given that the null sec cartels are creating far more ISK than they could ever possibly sell, not sure how the pieces all fall together, and if their real life incomes are affected that much.
So maybe CCP is OK with the future of plex prices at some ridiculous number. Are you completely ******* crazy? This PLEX price is a jackpot for a casual non-rich player! People like me, who have exactly one account are the people who purchase the PLEX and sell them occasionally when things don't go so well for the ISK-making. I don't have incursion or mission alts to generate highsec income, I'm not in null farming whatever the **** they farm out there (haven't even been to our new station yet) and if I lose an HAC or a T3 or a BB, sometimes I'm too short to replace it from in game funds. Fortunately, I have a good job in real life (2, in fact) and every so often I can treat myself to an infusion of cash so that I can fly things more expensive than T1 BCs or assault frigates. If you're a casual non-rich player, by definition you can't be the one BUYING PLEX with ISK, you have to be the one SELLING them. If casual, non-rich players could buy PLEX with ISK, there wouldn't be any PLEX on the market because NO ONE would need to buy them with real money and CCP would have.. no income because practically EVERYONE could PLEX their account. It is not some sort of EVE social ill that everyone can't achieve the dream of playing for free on in-game funds, any more than it's some sort of social ill that video games might be too expensive for some people in certain circumstances or parts of the world. Video games are a luxury. If you can't afford them with your RL income.. tough ****. I have sympathy for people that have a hard time feeding their children, not people who have a hard time funding their internet pew-pew.
+1000! great post! |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
3082
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Posted - 2014.03.18 08:02:00 -
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Wise Investment Magic 8-Ball says:
Buy PLEX with ISK or $$$ now. If prices continue going up, and you don't miss your chance to sell, you can only profit. Disregard any concerns about a possible sudden price bubble collapse. Rifterlings - newbie-friendly swashbuckling corp ("weflyrifters" in-game channel). Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Signal11th
Northern Coalition.
1321
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Posted - 2014.03.18 08:43:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:Jurou Yuan wrote:Knights Armament wrote:I just don't see the point in allowing plex prices to climb un-regulated, your average 2 month old character isn't going to spend 2.5 billion on a plex. They can just pay with money then. Paying with plex is a option not a right. You're right paying with money might be cheaper in the long run, it would also probably be cheaper to just uninstall the game and play something else.
Jesus so CCP have to subsidise poor people now? I'm skint in real life e.g the ex has taken me for everything but even I can afford 9 euros a bloody month.
If you can't afford to play with real life cash then maybe your time maybe better spent educating yourself and getting a better job or putting in some overtime/cutting lawns etc than playing a bloody game??? Powered by-áreaTh-áFilter V1.23 "All posts by this pilot are personal held views and not representitive of-áany-ácorp or alliance I am currently a member of. Like I'd give a-ásh*t anyway. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |
Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
430
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Posted - 2014.03.18 12:11:00 -
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Signal11th wrote:Knights Armament wrote:Jurou Yuan wrote:Knights Armament wrote:I just don't see the point in allowing plex prices to climb un-regulated, your average 2 month old character isn't going to spend 2.5 billion on a plex. They can just pay with money then. Paying with plex is a option not a right. You're right paying with money might be cheaper in the long run, it would also probably be cheaper to just uninstall the game and play something else. Jesus so CCP have to subsidise poor people now? I'm skint in real life e.g the ex has taken me for everything but even I can afford 9 euros a bloody month. If you can't afford to play with real life cash then maybe your time maybe better spent educating yourself and getting a better job or putting in some overtime/cutting lawns etc than playing a bloody game???
Umm... 9 euros * 8 accounts for some of them and if they can't afford even 1 of those accounts, they'll throw fits, claim the game is unplayable and cancel all the accounts.
As another posted above, it's not more casual types of players that get messed with, it's the ones running armies of alts who can't afford that many accounts if they actually have to cough up real money to fund them. |
Signal11th
Northern Coalition.
1322
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Posted - 2014.03.18 14:01:00 -
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Mocam wrote:Signal11th wrote:Knights Armament wrote:Jurou Yuan wrote:Knights Armament wrote:I just don't see the point in allowing plex prices to climb un-regulated, your average 2 month old character isn't going to spend 2.5 billion on a plex. They can just pay with money then. Paying with plex is a option not a right. You're right paying with money might be cheaper in the long run, it would also probably be cheaper to just uninstall the game and play something else. Jesus so CCP have to subsidise poor people now? I'm skint in real life e.g the ex has taken me for everything but even I can afford 9 euros a bloody month. If you can't afford to play with real life cash then maybe your time maybe better spent educating yourself and getting a better job or putting in some overtime/cutting lawns etc than playing a bloody game??? Umm... 9 euros * 8 accounts for some of them and if they can't afford even 1 of those accounts, they'll throw fits, claim the game is unplayable and cancel all the accounts. As another posted above, it's not more casual types of players that get messed with, it's the ones running armies of alts who can't afford that many accounts if they actually have to cough up real money to fund them.
I understand what you mean but why should we be bothered? I can quite easily open up 8 accounts and plex them all if I "really" wanted to but why would I, making money in EVE is probably the most boring part of it, evening scamming I imagine is quite boring considering all you are doing is ripping off stupid people.
PLEX is a benefit and shouldn't be treated as a given. If you can only run 8 accounts because of plex then you shouldn't be running 8 accounts or at least you shouldn't complain when PLEX prices rise e.g the phrase "Just because you can doesn't mean you should!" Powered by-áreaTh-áFilter V1.23 "All posts by this pilot are personal held views and not representitive of-áany-ácorp or alliance I am currently a member of. Like I'd give a-ásh*t anyway. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |
Aelisha
Achura-Waschi Exchange Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
349
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Posted - 2014.03.18 14:14:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:Jurou Yuan wrote:Knights Armament wrote:I just don't see the point in allowing plex prices to climb un-regulated, your average 2 month old character isn't going to spend 2.5 billion on a plex. They can just pay with money then. Paying with plex is a option not a right. You're right paying with money might be cheaper in the long run, it would also probably be cheaper to just uninstall the game and play something else.
Do that then you soft bastard. PLEX prices self-regulate. If you want the price to go down, buy them and relist them at lower prices, or purchase enough PLEX and list them on the market, to force the price down.
As you're not injecting any cash into CCP's pockets if you're PLEXing (though you are relieving them of obligation-debt), they probably give as much of a **** about you leaving as I do.
Tl;Dr, stop being poor. CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange: An International trade corporation that adheres to State values. Intaki Reborn. Federation citizen and Sociocrat supporter. State affiliated capsuleer with indefinite leave to remain. |
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