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Hasker Decks
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.13 10:41:00 -
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Hi guys!
I'm planning on raising my standings with one NPC corp in high sec to be able to install jump clones in their stations. Then I want to dive into low/null sec for some pvp action and plan to stay there for most of the time (though I don't rule out visiting high sec now and then).
If you could clarify few things for me:
1. What would be best NPC corporation to go for with my goal? I have been blitzing missions for Federation Navy and just then I realised most of their stations don't have medical bay... lol. Now I think one of the global extent corps would be best (like Caldari Business Tribunal)?
2. Let's say I will join FW for Gallente. Will it affect my standings with Caldari Faction? If yes how?
3. If I have 8.0+ standings and some jump clones installed in one of a Caldari corporations. Will I be still able to use those clones and install new ones when my standings will drop with whole faction? If no what's the treshold here?
Any hint's on what's the fastest way to raise standings with NPC corp?
Regards, Hasker |
Caerfinon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.13 11:08:00 -
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Or you could join Estel Arador Corp for a day or two make your jump clones and then carry on....
see -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=8574
No standings required...
Cheers C. |
voetius
BITB Support Services
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Posted - 2014.03.13 11:08:00 -
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This covers most of the frequent questions about clones
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Jump_clones
Estel Arador Corp Services provides free jump clones, look up the corp ingame to see how to apply and how the service works
List of stations covered
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Estel_Arador_Corp_Services
1. That's a hard question to answer, maybe read the above links and suggestions below and come back with a more specific question?
2. Yes, it will badly affect your standings, they are at war. How bad, well you will be KOS to the other faction bad :)
3. You never lose corporation standing unless you cancel a mission that you have accepted so it doesn't matter afaik what your faction standing is (though that doesn't affect how KOS works and the threshold for KOS is -5 to the faction in question).
Fastest way : https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Faction_Standing_Repair_Plan
covers everything faction standing related, have a read and cherry pick what seems convenient for you.
I would suggest either level 4 security missions if you feel you can blitz them quickly or level 4 distribution missions which will be comparable in time if you pick your agent(s) carefully, e.g. find a station where there several agents down the end of a pipe so all the missions send you the same way, and yes there are such agents.
I don't know about faction war missions but Mynnna (who is very knowledgeable on the subject) did say once FW was the quickest, and it's certainly the most profitable.
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djentropy Ovaert
Crazy Bird Inc.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 11:14:00 -
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voetius wrote:
I don't know about faction war missions but Mynnna (who is very knowledgeable on the subject) did say once FW was the quickest, and it's certainly the most profitable.
+1 to this.
As a FW player, the time it took me to grind that 8.0 with Caldari State Pro was a LOT faster then the grind to 8.0 doing level 4 security missions, and made me a heck of a lot more cash.
It depends. If you really are in it just for the JC's - just jump on whatever FW side happens to be in the highest tier right now, as this will affect your rewards. If you can get lucky and join a side that is @ tier 3 or 4, you could grind up that 8.0 in just a few days.
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Hasker Decks
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.13 12:21:00 -
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Thanks for a suggestion! Will certainly give it a look.
voetius wrote: 2. Yes, it will badly affect your standings, they are at war. How bad, well you will be KOS to the other faction bad :)
I know that and this doesn't bother me at all I was asking about standings with NPC faction in numbers.
voetius wrote: 3. You never lose corporation standing unless you cancel a mission that you have accepted so it doesn't matter afaik what your faction standing is (though that doesn't affect how KOS works and the threshold for KOS is -5 to the faction in question).
I wonder if there is any mechanism prohibiting you with installing/operating jump clones in stations of corporation from faction which you have standings below certain level (similar to not being able to use agents higher then lvl 1 if you have lower than -2.0 standing with a faction).
djentropy Ovaert wrote: voetius wrote:
I don't know about faction war missions but Mynnna (who is very knowledgeable on the subject) did say once FW was the quickest, and it's certainly the most profitable.
+1 to this.
As a FW player, the time it took me to grind that 8.0 with Caldari State Pro was a LOT faster then the grind to 8.0 doing level 4 security missions, and made me a heck of a lot more cash.
It depends. If you really are in it just for the JC's - just jump on whatever FW side happens to be in the highest tier right now, as this will affect your rewards. If you can get lucky and join a side that is @ tier 3 or 4, you could grind up that 8.0 in just a few days.
Thanks for the hint. I will consider it.
Regards, Hasker
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds Affirmative.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:25:00 -
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How hard is it to look up existing info. Page 1 has a thread on the exact same thing.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=299279&find=unread Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
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Hasker Decks
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:36:00 -
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Good point Must have been blind that I've missed it...
Have one more question (couldn't find the answer in linked thread): Am I able to leave a jump clone in a station that don't have medical bay (by jumping to other clone from this station)? Asa far as I understand jump clone mechanics, probably yes but whant to be sure.
Regards, Hasker |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds Affirmative.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:47:00 -
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Hasker Decks wrote:Good point Must have been blind that I've missed it... Have one more question (couldn't find the answer in linked thread): Am I able to leave a jump clone in a station that don't have medical bay (by jumping to other clone from this station)? Asa far as I understand jump clone mechanics, probably yes but whant to be sure. Regards, Hasker
That is definately listed in the link. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
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Hasker Decks
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:57:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Hasker Decks wrote:Good point Must have been blind that I've missed it... Have one more question (couldn't find the answer in linked thread): Am I able to leave a jump clone in a station that don't have medical bay (by jumping to other clone from this station)? Asa far as I understand jump clone mechanics, probably yes but whant to be sure. Regards, Hasker That is definately listed in the link.
There is info about it regarding medical clones. What I was asking is when i jump from one jump clone to another. And medical clone is sitting still in a safe spot with medical bay somewhere in high sec.
Nevertheless that in fact answers my question I guess.
Regards, Hasker |
Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.13 14:40:00 -
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Hasker Decks wrote:I know that and this doesn't bother me at all I was asking about standings with NPC faction in numbers. This will greatly depend on what you are doing in FW.
Running offensive plexes and missions that make you shoot Caldari ships will lower your standings. AFAIK shooting players will only affect your standing with the opposing FW NPC corp and not the faction. And finally, being active in FW will make you gain standings with your faction, with the usual derived losses to the opposing faction.
And of course, those standings are only important once you leave FW, as during your time in FW, you are KOS anyway. |
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Hasker Decks
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.13 14:44:00 -
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Thomas Builder wrote:Hasker Decks wrote:I know that and this doesn't bother me at all I was asking about standings with NPC faction in numbers. This will greatly depend on what you are doing in FW. Running offensive plexes and missions that make you shoot Caldari ships will lower your standings. AFAIK shooting players will only affect your standing with the opposing FW NPC corp and not the faction. And finally, being active in FW will make you gain standings with your faction, with the usual derived losses to the opposing faction. And of course, those standings are only important once you leave FW, as during your time in FW, you are KOS anyway.
Sure thing. Thanks a lot for clarification!
Regards, Hasker |
Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.13 14:46:00 -
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Hasker Decks wrote: Have one more question (couldn't find the answer in linked thread): Am I able to leave a jump clone in a station that don't have medical bay (by jumping to other clone from this station)? Asa far as I understand jump clone mechanics, probably yes but whant to be sure.
You can leave a Jump Clone anywhere, regardless whether the station has a med bay, or even regardless of whether you are still allowed to dock (if you already in a conquerable station when it changes hands, you can jump out, leaving the clone there, and it will be perfectly fine, although your medical clone can be revoked if it is there). The only thing you cant do is leave two in the same station.
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds Affirmative.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 15:40:00 -
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Hasker Decks wrote:J'Poll wrote:Hasker Decks wrote:Good point Must have been blind that I've missed it... Have one more question (couldn't find the answer in linked thread): Am I able to leave a jump clone in a station that don't have medical bay (by jumping to other clone from this station)? Asa far as I understand jump clone mechanics, probably yes but whant to be sure. Regards, Hasker That is definately listed in the link. There is info about it regarding medical clones. What I was asking is when i jump from one jump clone to another. And medical clone is sitting still in a safe spot with medical bay somewhere in high sec. Nevertheless that in fact answers my question I guess. Regards, Hasker
Guide clearly lists it but let me make it even more clear:
MEDICAL clone is NOT the same as a JUMP clone
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Hasker Decks
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.13 15:45:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Hasker Decks wrote:J'Poll wrote:Hasker Decks wrote:Good point Must have been blind that I've missed it... Have one more question (couldn't find the answer in linked thread): Am I able to leave a jump clone in a station that don't have medical bay (by jumping to other clone from this station)? Asa far as I understand jump clone mechanics, probably yes but whant to be sure. Regards, Hasker That is definately listed in the link. There is info about it regarding medical clones. What I was asking is when i jump from one jump clone to another. And medical clone is sitting still in a safe spot with medical bay somewhere in high sec. Nevertheless that in fact answers my question I guess. Regards, Hasker Guide clearly lists it but let me make it even more clear: MEDICAL clone is NOT the same as a JUMP clone
But of course it's not. You must have missed the point of my last post.
But never mind... I've got all the answers I needed. Thanks for all the answers!
Cheers, Hasker
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.13 16:41:00 -
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Your medical clone settings cover where you spawn when you die (by its "base") and how many skillpoints you keep when you die (all of them ideally).
Your jump clone is independent of your med clone. It allows you to instantly hop across the universe, it allows you to store implants in a safe location (although you don't benefit from stored implants).
Swapping Jump clones has no effect on your Med clone, so feel free to swap JC's as much as you can, and know that your med clone settings will remain the same, dictating where you spawn on death and how many SP you keep.
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds Affirmative.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:15:00 -
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Hasker Decks wrote:
But of course it's not. You must have missed the point of my last post.
But never mind... I've got all the answers I needed. Thanks for all the answers!
Cheers, Hasker
Q: I have set my jumpclone at a station. Can I only dock it in stations that I have enough standings with? A: No. The pre-requirements listed above are only to create a jumpclone. After it is made, you can move it to any station you desire and leave it there.
Looks pretty clear in the guide and a direct answer to what you wanted to know initially, which was if you can park it in a non medical station. No offense but what part of ANY station was not telling you that you could. Dont claim something isnt there if it is just you not reading it Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
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