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Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2006.05.02 06:05:00 -
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I love football.
I loathe soccer.
seriously, they're just kicking a ball around. How can that be entertaining?
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.05.02 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: Vincent Gaines I love football.
I loathe soccer.
seriously, they're just kicking a ball around. How can that be entertaining?
I love (rest of the world cept american football)
I lothe american football, there just throwing a ball around with a kick or two. How can taht be entertaning?
Originally by: Tamora its not the skills that make the eve player... its the smack that back him up
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Jon Engel
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Posted - 2006.05.02 08:20:00 -
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*sighs* It's not just throwing the ball around a field. Theres strategy to it and you not only throw the ball either.
Advancing the ball Advancing the ball in American football resembles the six-tackle rule and the play-the-ball in rugby league football. The team that takes possession of the ball (the offense) has four attempts, called downs, to advance the ball 10 yards towards their opponent's (the defense's) end zone. When the offense gains 10 yards, it gets a first down, or another set of four downs to gain 10 yards. If the offense fails to gain a first down (10 yards) after 4 downs, it loses possession of the ball.
Except at the beginning of halves and after scores (see Kickoffs and free kicks below), the ball is always put into play by a snap. All players line up facing each other at the line of scrimmage (the position on the field where the play begins). One offensive player, the center, then passes (or "snaps") the ball between his legs to a teammate, usually the quarterback.
Players can then advance the ball in two ways:
By running with the ball, also known as rushing. One ball-carrier can hand the ball to another; this is known as a handoff. By throwing the ball to a teammate, known as passing. The forward pass is a key factor distinguishing American and Canadian football from other football sports. The offense can throw the ball forward only once on a play and only from behind the line of scrimmage. The ball can be thrown sideways or backwards at any time. This type of pass is known as a lateral and is much rarer in American football than in rugby league or rugby union, where a backwards pass is mandatory. A play or down ends, and the ball becomes dead, after any of the following:
The player with the ball is forced to the ground or has his forward progress halted by members of the other team (as determined by an official). A forward pass flies out of bounds or touches the ground before it is caught. This is known as an incomplete pass. The ball is returned to the original line of scrimmage for the next down. The ball or the player with the ball goes beyond the dimensions of the field (out of bounds). A team scores. Officials blow a whistle to notify all players that the play is over.
At all times, players and fans must be aware of the sequence of downs and the distance to a new first down. When a team has a first down, the scoreboard or television screen flashes "1st and 10" ù that is, first down and 10 yards to go. If the team gains three yards on the first play, for example, the next down will be "2nd and 7." If the team gains 6.5 yards on the next play the scoreboard may say "3rd and inches." If a team gains a first down within the ten yard line then the scoreboard or television reads "(the down) and goal."
And heres offense and defense explained
Offense The offensive line consists of five players whose job is to protect the passer and clear the way for runners by blocking members of the defense. Except for the center, offensive linemen generally do not handle the ball. The quarterback receives the ball on most plays. He then hands or tosses it to a running back, throws it to a receiver or runs with it himself. Running backs line up behind or beside the QB and specialize in rushing with the ball. They also block, catch passes and, on rare occasions, pass the ball to others. Wide receivers line up near the sidelines. They specialize in catching passes. Tight ends line up outside the offensive line. They can either play like wide receivers (try to catch passes) or like offensive linemen (protect the QB or create spaces for runners). Not all of these types of players will be in on every offensive play. Teams can vary the number of wide receivers, tight ends and running backs on the field at one time.
Defense The defensive line consists of three to five players who line up across from the offensive line. They try to tackle the running backs before they can gain yardage or the quarterback before he can throw a pass. At least three players line up as defensive backs. They cover the receivers and try to stop pass completions. They occasionally rush the quarterback. The other players on the defense are known as linebackers. They line up between the defensive line and backs and may either rush the quarterback or cover potential receivers.
Special teams The units of players who handle kicking plays are known as special teams. Two important special-teams players are the punter, who handles punts, and the placekicker or kicker, who kicks off and attempts field goals and extra points. It is rare, but not unheard of, for these two positions to be filled by the same player.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.05.02 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jon Engel
babble, babble, babble
And so what?
Real football is a damn sight more complicated than YOU give it credit for, but you really don't care. Why should we care that American so-called football is more complicated than WE give it credit for?
As for being entertaining - more than three thousand million people watched the last world cup final. What's the record high for a superbowl? ________________________________________________
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Stogee
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Posted - 2006.05.02 12:23:00 -
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I laugh when I see americans saying that Football is boring to watch compared to American handball ... I mean 'foot'ball :P
American football = 2 minutes of playing, 10 minutes standing around acting all tired and planning the next two minutes of actual play
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2006.05.02 12:36:00 -
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it's FOOTBALL
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2006.05.02 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Stogee I laugh when I see americans saying that Football is boring to watch compared to American handball ... I mean 'foot'ball :P
American football = 2 minutes of playing, 10 minutes standing around acting all tired and planning the next two minutes of actual play
haha
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2006.05.02 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jon Engel I personaly can't stand soccer It's slow paced, low scoring boredom with short European men running around in neon shortpants.
Other than that. I realy would not watch it to begin with since America's team sucks. Most people in this country quit playing soccer at the age of 12 and move on to other sports such as Football, and Baseball.
Realy though, I don't understand why I bother to watch baseball anymore since im a Cubs fan and am a vocal opponent to Dusty Baker and I want his head on a pike.
Now that ive ranted for a bit. I suppose I need a new sport that can keep me interested with a local team that can win a championship or something.
Watching baseball you should have no problem with the boredom factor, also what is this about short men, looking for a date?
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Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2006.05.02 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Spartan239
Originally by: Vincent Gaines I love football.
I loathe soccer.
seriously, they're just kicking a ball around. How can that be entertaining?
I love (rest of the world cept american football)
I lothe american football, there just throwing a ball around with a kick or two. How can taht be entertaning?
to each thier own
how about this.... during the next soccer/football season, football fans need to follow one soccer team, and vice versa for football
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Amataras
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Posted - 2006.05.02 18:01:00 -
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I'm not into Football big time but even I understand the World Cup is more than a sports tournament - it's a chance for people from many different countries across the world to unite under a common interest which is crucial for breaking down barriers between different races and cultures.
Just a shame the USA refuses the join the rest of the world ------- The Eve Diplomacy Table |
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Jon Engel
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Posted - 2006.05.02 18:31:00 -
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Actually I sorta enjoy arena soccer or indoor soccer. Its high scoring and a smaller field so possesion of the ball interchanges more.
If it takes a half hour for each team to score I get bored and leave.
Anyways. It's not about Americans refusing to join the world. It's about the fact that we developed our own sports here and soccer never caught on here. Nothing special there. We just dont like soccer.
Anyways, baseball is picking up in popularity. It's big in Asia, and is growing in latin American and Africa. Also there is a rather popular NFL europe. Football is growing in popularity in Germany as well. Get used to it. Football and baseball is spreading. Soon it will be on par internationaly with Soccer and all the other European games.
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Zaldiri
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Posted - 2006.05.02 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Stogee I laugh when I see americans saying that Football is boring to watch compared to American handball ... I mean 'foot'ball :P
To be fair, the foot in all games called football refers to the fact it is played on foot (as opposed to horseback) not becuase the ball is kicked with the foot.
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Zaldiri
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Posted - 2006.05.02 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jon Engel
Anyways, baseball is picking up in popularity. It's big in Asia, and is growing in latin American and Africa. Also there is a rather popular NFL europe. Football is growing in popularity in Germany as well. Get used to it. Football and baseball is spreading. Soon it will be on par internationaly with Soccer and all the other European games.
No it won't, the USA has far more chance of adopting football cricket and rugby than the rest of the world adopting US sports.
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Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2006.05.02 20:21:00 -
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Edited by: Vincent Gaines on 02/05/2006 20:21:45 Football is the main U.S. sport
Baseball is falling far and fast, it's only popular during the World Series.
Basketball is too trendy and fad-tastic... I can't stand it
Hockey owns... it doesn't get enough attention.
MLS (American soccer league) never caught on because D.C. United dominated all the time, it was boring a predictable.
We do pay attention to the World Cup, but only when we have a chance... hell, the women's world cup took in almost as many viewers as the Superbowl.
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Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2006.05.02 20:41:00 -
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What is this soccer.
In the UK we have a game called football, you might have heard of it.
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Jon Engel
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Posted - 2006.05.02 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Zaldiri
Originally by: Jon Engel
Anyways, baseball is picking up in popularity. It's big in Asia, and is growing in latin American and Africa. Also there is a rather popular NFL europe. Football is growing in popularity in Germany as well. Get used to it. Football and baseball is spreading. Soon it will be on par internationaly with Soccer and all the other European games.
No it won't, the USA has far more chance of adopting football cricket and rugby than the rest of the world adopting US sports.
laughable. Sports go where they are liked. Football is moving to Europe over the years whether you like it or not. Baseball is popular in America, Mexico, Japan, Korea, and Carribean nations as well as somewhat popular in Canada.
I don't realy know what you base your opinion on as I look at ticket sales for NFL europe and South Africa's growing love of baseball.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.05.02 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Jon Engel I don't realy know what you base your opinion on as I look at ticket sales for NFL europe and South Africa's growing love of baseball.
Maybe he bases it on the fact that over NINETY per cent of the world's children play football (real football, not gridiron.) ________________________________________________
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.05.02 23:17:00 -
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Raven Aure
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Posted - 2006.05.03 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire I hate football.
Oh my last bastion of sanity.
*smiles sweetly*
It's just unfourtunate living in the UK where it's perpetually rammed down our throats by the back of most major newspapers which on the tube is all I can see ______________________
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Erosie
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Posted - 2006.05.03 00:09:00 -
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Heh indeed Americans really suck at football (soccer) But we have in my hometown ( Eindhoven PSV ) 1 very good and well payed American; Beasly! Well that dude is awesome, but he's the prolly the only American who can play football at a decent level.
no wonder Americans don't like it, ghehe
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Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2006.05.03 04:21:00 -
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Originally by: Neon Genesis What is this soccer.
In the UK we have a game called football, you might have heard of it.
elevator, apartment, bus, etc... y'all have strange names for things
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Jon Engel
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Posted - 2006.05.03 05:43:00 -
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yeah, we also call clouds, sky kittens too. Culture is so different over here.
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Subaru Yakamitsukamosuki
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Posted - 2006.05.03 08:23:00 -
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Only Americans could call something they pick up, run about with and throw with their hands a 'football'.
OH FORGET IT |
Riddari
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Posted - 2006.05.03 10:56:00 -
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Pay-per-tv subscription bought check 2 week vacation from work during the group stages check Permission to watch final even if its on our first anniversary (married July 9th 2005) check Putting up a fantasy league like I did for Euro2004 in progress
I'm good to go!
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Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2006.05.03 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Subaru Yakamitsukamosuki Only Americans could call something they pick up, run about with and throw with their hands a 'football'.
we do kick it occasionally
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Sepul Marius
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Posted - 2006.05.03 22:30:00 -
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To the OP: Yes and Yes, though I'll be missing the opening weekend.
Football/American Football/Gridiron is an excellent sport, and both it and Soccer/Proper Football suffer from the conflation of terms in the US. Those outside the US look at "Football" here and dismiss it as nothing more than Rugby corrupted by advertisers (a not entirely unfair accusation). We here in the US look at "Football" elsewhere and find our patience taxed by the lack of clearly defined discrete elements. To our inexperienced eye, "Football" tends to look like a disorganized, boring mess, without any real purpose but to run around chasing a ball for 90 minutes (and in fairness, there's a lot of crap football out there, so it's not an entirely unjust accusation).
I personally love sport in all its forms (though rugby union holds a place near and dear to my heart, and I've come to despise what baseball has turned itself into), and feel that regardless of what a particular person feels is "proper" football, with time they can come to appreciate the varied aspects of the "other football," even if they still decide that it's not their proverbial cup of tea. |
Sepul Marius
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Posted - 2006.05.03 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Jon Engel
Anyways. It's not about Americans refusing to join the world. It's about the fact that we developed our own sports here and soccer never caught on here. Nothing special there. We just dont like soccer.
Actually, the NASL (North American Soccer League) used to be huge, but then it went on a decline in the late 70's and folded in the early 80's. Shoot, Pele played in the NASL at the end of his career.
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Jon Engel
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Posted - 2006.05.04 01:55:00 -
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To be honest if you like soccer than by all means love that sport. It's not my bag. It's simply I get annoyed when everyone says, it's American so it must be stupid and therefore it's out jobs as european citizens to tell us what's wrong with it.
I explained in great detail what football consists of. Of course I doubt anyone here who has it out for American sports has even watched a game.
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