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Mikhem
Taxisk Unlimited
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Posted - 2014.03.16 10:33:00 -
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EVE online and Dust 514 were merged over year ago. During that time I have very rarely seen Dust 514 mercenaries on EVE chat channels. I think there is somekind of issue that Dust 514 mercenaries simply can't see EVE chat channel names. I have sometimes seen mercenaries on player channels that have similar names with ingame channels.
I opened this thread to discuss why Dust 514 mercenaries are ignoring EVE online chat channels?
It's so lonely here without you. Mikhem
Game improvement ideas. |
Satoshi Kaname
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
14
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Posted - 2014.03.16 12:22:00 -
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Maybe because they don't know the channel or don't see how it helps them? Most interaction between Dusties and Eve players is in FW chat channels:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=126743&p=1
Also contrary to Eve players Dust players don't have their chat window open all the time and will probably not speak much while in battle. |
NeVrain
Sleeping Giant Services Inc.
3
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Posted - 2014.03.16 21:44:00 -
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There's a lot of players on the DUST forums who dearly want to be part of EVE and New Eden - i think the biggest thing holding peeps back is CCP's totally fubared development of DUST. Peeps are fighting CCP tooth and nail just to get the game's core mechanics working. New Eden is just a pipe dream for them atm.
Honestly, you have to spend some time in game to grok just how messed up it is. Every player has hung their hope on the new EP, but many have been so burned and burned out in the course of two years worth of mind-boggling fk ups that they're not willing to trust CCP DUST without solid proof of change. Realistically the product is still alpha/beta.
Meanwhile, CCP Reykjavik is nowhere to be seen, so far as DUST players can tell. |
Crasniya
Strange Energy Gentlemen's Agreement
456
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Posted - 2014.03.17 05:14:00 -
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1. There's no channel browser in DUST.
2. Most DUSTies have their own channels.
3. The DUST client has issues if you open too many channels. |
Red Teufel
Mafia Redux Phobia.
356
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Posted - 2014.03.17 12:16:00 -
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possibly because EvE voice is **** that no one uses. I also don't belive PS3 supports TS3......... so there goes about half the player interaction right there. |
Satoshi Kaname
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.03.17 12:47:00 -
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NeVrain wrote:P.S. As a pertinent example of how core systems not working applies directly to the OP's question, more than a few chat channels open tends to crash the client.
These problems were fixed some while ago. I have about 12 or so open and have no problems at all. |
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
165
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Posted - 2014.03.17 14:23:00 -
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Biggest issue is playing the game AND typing on the channel at the same time.
Also typing with a pad is terrible to say the least and screen estate for chat window is small to say the least, so by the time you have finished typing with the pad you have lost half the conversation already. |
Crasniya
Strange Energy Gentlemen's Agreement
460
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Posted - 2014.03.17 14:51:00 -
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Even if you have a keyboard, you're limited by the PS3's text input field, which is limited and blocks the entire screen. |
Archibald Liberty Killmore
Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
8
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Posted - 2014.03.17 17:42:00 -
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Mikhem wrote:EVE online and Dust 514 were merged over year ago. During that time I have very rarely seen Dust 514 mercenaries on EVE chat channels. I think there is somekind of issue that Dust 514 mercenaries simply can't see EVE chat channel names. I have sometimes seen mercenaries on player channels that have similar names with ingame channels.
I opened this thread to discuss why Dust 514 mercenaries are ignoring EVE online chat channels?
It's so lonely here without you.
Try out any of the Eve FW chats that the dusters use.
PIE Ground Control Caldari Heirarchy Chosen Matari Turalyon
Its mostly FW stuff but you will find a lot of dusters out here. Just so you know there might be a little trolling and some crazy role play. |
Markku Laaksonen
EVE University Ivy League
394
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Posted - 2014.03.18 23:49:00 -
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On the subject of communication...
Using the DS3 controller for input rather than a keyboard makes typing a big giant pain in the ass.
Even with a keyboard, typing is a big giant pain in the ass during battle, which I'd venture a guess and say is most of the time. (I hit my cap, then rarely log in at all until next cap.)
EVE voice is terrible.
Q-Syncing a squad of 16 with mics is the loudest most cacophonous undertaking ever and sometimes, painfully, necessary. Every douche needs to chime in to tell you he's calling in a tank, or he's getting shot, or he's so damn frustrated he lost that suit, or his nuts itch, or how did that guy hit me. If you don't know the guys voice there's no good way to tell who it is to mute him or kick him from your squad. Compare to voice coms in EVE (basically anything other than in game voice, mumble, teamspeak, etc.) I've been in 100+ man E-Uni fleets with better coms discipline from first time fleetmates.
On the note of that douche clogging up voice coms bitching about how he lost his suit, we all know the EVE rule "Don't fly what you can't afford to lose." I propose to modify it and at the same time apply it to DUST. It should say something to the effect of "Don't field what you'll ***** about losing."
Basically, communicating in DUST is a nightmare. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/
EVE Buddy Invite - https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=047203f1-4124-42a1-b36f-39ca8ae5d6e2&action=buddy
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Crasniya
Strange Energy Gentlemen's Agreement
460
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Posted - 2014.03.19 03:53:00 -
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Markku Laaksonen wrote:Q-Syncing a squad of 16 with mics is the loudest most cacophonous undertaking ever and sometimes, painfully, necessary. Every douche needs to chime in to tell you he's calling in a tank, or he's getting shot, or he's so damn frustrated he lost that suit, or his nuts itch, or how did that guy hit me. If you don't know the guys voice there's no good way to tell who it is to mute him or kick him from your squad. Compare to voice coms in EVE (basically anything other than in game voice, mumble, teamspeak, etc.) I've been in 100+ man E-Uni fleets with better coms discipline from first time fleetmates.
On the note of that douche clogging up voice coms bitching about how he lost his suit, we all know the EVE rule "Don't fly what you can't afford to lose." I propose to modify it and at the same time apply it to DUST. It should say something to the effect of "Don't field what you'll ***** about losing."
Basically, communicating in DUST is a nightmare.
This is really only the case if your team has no discipline. For a lot of us, it isn't a problem. |
Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
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Posted - 2014.03.19 12:22:00 -
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Crasniya wrote:Markku Laaksonen wrote:Q-Syncing a squad of 16 with mics is the loudest most cacophonous undertaking ever and sometimes, painfully, necessary. Every douche needs to chime in to tell you he's calling in a tank, or he's getting shot, or he's so damn frustrated he lost that suit, or his nuts itch, or how did that guy hit me. If you don't know the guys voice there's no good way to tell who it is to mute him or kick him from your squad. Compare to voice coms in EVE (basically anything other than in game voice, mumble, teamspeak, etc.) I've been in 100+ man E-Uni fleets with better coms discipline from first time fleetmates.
On the note of that douche clogging up voice coms bitching about how he lost his suit, we all know the EVE rule "Don't fly what you can't afford to lose." I propose to modify it and at the same time apply it to DUST. It should say something to the effect of "Don't field what you'll ***** about losing."
Basically, communicating in DUST is a nightmare. This is really only the case if your team has no discipline. For a lot of us, it isn't a problem. Who are you ? I see you writing in everything that is in your Dust side forums.I have to this date never seen any corp with the name Gentlemen s Agreement in any match. Im just curious as to how you formulate all your opinion and knowledge about the game.
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Armaeus Hellbrecht
THE HECATONCHIRES
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Posted - 2014.03.19 12:34:00 -
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NeVrain wrote:There's a lot of players on the DUST forums who dearly want to be part of EVE and New Eden - i think the biggest thing holding peeps back is CCP's totally fubared development of DUST. Peeps are fighting CCP tooth and nail just to get the game's core mechanics working. New Eden is just a pipe dream for them atm.
Honestly, you have to spend some time in game to grok just how messed up it is. Every player has hung their hope on the new EP, but many have been so burned and burned out in the course of two years worth of mind-boggling fk ups that they're not willing to trust CCP DUST without solid proof of change. Realistically the product is still alpha/beta.
Meanwhile, CCP Reykjavik is nowhere to be seen, so far as DUST players can tell.
P.S. As a pertinent example of how core systems not working applies directly to the OP's question, more than a few chat channels open tends to crash the client.
This in the most concise nutshell that Ive seen on your forums.This man is absolutely correct
@ OP and why Dust was never on the same forums in the same Universe is beyond me.it could've easily been its own sub forums and EVE and Dust players could've openly conversed about the game and how the 2 correlate with each other on mutual topics.Everyone is screaming about market integration ...forum integration should've been first and foremost.
Almost all problems with the EVE dust side connections correlate to this .Many EVE players with DUST alts have tried to bridge the gap in knowledge about lore and source info ....when it was all already here.In EVE gate
The problem arises in the Log in process which is thru Playstation is what im told and I mean SCEA and playing the game online, but there is a browser function on the Playstation so they could've logged in on here but they cant.That is the biggest problem in bringing the 2 groups together |
Crasniya
Strange Energy Gentlemen's Agreement
460
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Posted - 2014.03.19 15:00:00 -
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Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:Who are you ? I see you writing in everything that is in your Dust side forums.I have to this date never seen any corp with the name Gentlemen s Agreement in any match. Im just curious as to how you formulate all your opinion and knowledge about the game.
The DUST arm of Gentlemen's Agreement operates as Top Men. http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Top_Men.
My DUST character is named Soraya Xel, and is currently in a corporation called Abandoned Privilege. |
Archibald Liberty Killmore
Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
8
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Posted - 2014.03.19 15:05:00 -
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Crasniya wrote:Armaeus Hellbrecht wrote:Who are you ? I see you writing in everything that is in your Dust side forums.I have to this date never seen any corp with the name Gentlemen s Agreement in any match. Im just curious as to how you formulate all your opinion and knowledge about the game.
The DUST arm of Gentlemen's Agreement operates as Top Men. http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Top_Men.My DUST character is named Soraya Xel, and is currently in a corporation called Abandoned Privilege.
Great! Everyone please bow down to the most benovelent Soraya Xel.
Just so you know this tryhard in Dust is trying to run for dust CPM and someone who I strongly dont recommend for this post because of his belief that he can put aside his lolmeta when playing dust and be objective at the same time for the betterment of the Dust community . Meh but only time will tell how many people all buy into this dudes shennanigans. |
Crasniya
Strange Energy Gentlemen's Agreement
466
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Posted - 2014.03.20 14:22:00 -
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I'm a tryhard? Heh, never been called that before. And who are you, may I ask?
And good luck getting support for your hatred of metagaming in EVE. ;) It's kinda a thing over here.
EDIT: Oh. Red Star dude calls me a tryhard. That's rich. Really rich, dude. |
Archibald Liberty Killmore
Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
11
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Posted - 2014.03.20 14:48:00 -
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Crasniya wrote:I'm a tryhard? Heh, never been called that before. And who are you, may I ask?
And good luck getting support for your hatred of metagaming in EVE. ;) It's kinda a thing over here.
EDIT: Oh. Red Star dude calls me a tryhard. That's rich. Really rich, dude.
First of all I am not Red Star. Have a look at my Corp;- it says Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends.
Secondly I am a Eve guy in a Dust Portal. You dont see posting in any other Eve forum. Reason being I have seen you flaming other Eve players acting all high and mighty trying to show that you know more than them when in reality you are nothing more than a Harry or Llyod from dumb and dumber. That is going to stop as long as I am around. As much as false prophecies and preachings amuse me I actually do care about the game rather than making ISK in Dust and selling it in Eve.
Lastly;- when it comes to Dust I actually know about the game being that I have played for 2 years and played each and every role to its fullest except for an ADS. You on the other hand play very little dust, talk about metaing in Dust when you really cant meta and are horribly bad at it and recieve my all endearing teabags when I actually do see you in the field.
Till I teabag you next...
PS: My reference to your tryhardness is not in the game. It is with reference to your oh so fail metaing. |
Crasniya
Strange Energy Gentlemen's Agreement
466
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Posted - 2014.03.20 17:32:00 -
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I know who you are, dude. Nice try. Still butthurt that the Council saw through your bad meta scheme? I didn't even have a say in the matter. |
Archibald Liberty Killmore
Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
11
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Posted - 2014.03.20 18:57:00 -
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Crasniya wrote:I know who you are, dude. Nice try. Still butthurt that the Council saw through your bad meta scheme? I didn't even have a say in the matter.
LOL. You couldnt even figure out who I am. If you think I am Eugene good luck with that. Eugene doesnt even play Eve.
And your LOLCouncil wont stay too long. I will make sure you are the first one to get kicked out PFC. Kain and his cronies are already paying DNS a good load of ISK to save them from the trashing they are getting from TSOs. How long is that going to last? Once Spero is out who is going to protect you?
Anyways let's not derail the OPs topic. I know you tryi to derail topics when you cant get the better of people. But hey bad gameplay is bad gameplay. |
Marth Young
Pradox XVI Proficiency V.
2
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Posted - 2014.03.21 03:39:00 -
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Calling a member of Top Men a try hard isn't very accurate. No offense to Top Men. If they were try hard they would have actively cared about pc. To the extent as some of the other major alliances.
Also to the op. I'll join a channel of yours with my dust toon, just post a channel name and i'll join it. You can see my fancy golden amarr avatar ( sadly i don't mean the titan ) Dust Bunny! I prefer the Term Meta-Gaming Bad ass with a slight hint of the person Samuel L. Jackson wanted to be.-á
When CCP adds in the Arkombine, I will voulenter. |
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Archibald Liberty Killmore
Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
11
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Posted - 2014.03.21 11:10:00 -
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Marth Young wrote:Calling a member of Top Men a try hard isn't very accurate. No offense to Top Men. If they were try hard they would have actively cared about pc. To the extent as some of the other major alliances.
Also to the op. I'll join a channel of yours with my dust toon, just post a channel name and i'll join it. You can see my fancy golden amarr avatar ( sadly i don't mean the titan )
My reference to Soraya's tryhardism is not his gameplay. His gameplay actually sucks by the amount of times I have teabagged him.
My reference to his tryhardism is with his lolDustMeta! |
Crasniya
Strange Energy Gentlemen's Agreement
467
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Posted - 2014.03.21 18:28:00 -
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The loldustmeta is when you are trying to stir up meta drama on the EVE forum. ;) |
Archibald Liberty Killmore
Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
11
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:36:00 -
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Crasniya wrote:The loldustmeta is when you are trying to stir up meta drama on the EVE forum. ;)
LOL! Meta is for people with no gun game. You can have your meta. LMAO. I have great gun game and tactical awareness in FPS. And I am not going to be modest about it.
My only objective is run that train wreck that you call your run for CPM to the ground. |
Marth Young
Pradox XVI Proficiency V.
3
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:18:00 -
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Archibald Liberty Killmore wrote:Crasniya wrote:The loldustmeta is when you are trying to stir up meta drama on the EVE forum. ;) LOL! Meta is for people with no gun game. You can have your meta. LMAO. I have great gun game and tactical awareness in FPS. And I am not going to be modest about it. My only objective is run that train wreck that you call your run for CPM to the ground.
Nah I think what Kane Spero shows you can have both meta and gun game. Dust Bunny! I prefer the Term Meta-Gaming Bad ass with a slight hint of the person Samuel L. Jackson wanted to be.-á
When CCP adds in the Arkombine, I will voulenter. |
Archibald Liberty Killmore
Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
11
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:05:00 -
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Marth Young wrote: Nah I think what Kane Spero shows you can have both meta and gun game.
LMAO. The Kain you knew in the Imps is not the Kain anymore. Dude gets pwned every time. And so does Cubs. I have yet to see them go positive in a PC match. The thing about meta is that it ruins your gun game.
The last PC I played Kain got meleed to death. Yes meleed. A 1000+ EHP dude got meleed. LMAO. Keep thinking hes got gun game. |
Crasniya
Strange Energy Gentlemen's Agreement
470
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:45:00 -
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Spero and CUBS aren't at the top of the gun game pyramid, but they organize together people who are. |
Archibald Liberty Killmore
Toodles McGiggityGoo and Friends
11
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:40:00 -
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Crasniya wrote:Spero and CUBS aren't at the top of the gun game pyramid, but they organize together people who are.
What this dude said LMAO! |
CERA Elitist
The Prometheus Society
15
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Posted - 2014.03.29 19:20:00 -
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the DUST social interface is a pain to use. Maybe that's why. |
Mikhem
Taxisk Unlimited
128
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Posted - 2014.04.19 03:51:00 -
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Here are EVE online channel names to Dust 514 mercenaries since they don't have list of channel names available. Six screenshots show all channel names.
Screenshot 1 Screenshot 2 Screenshot 3 Screenshot 4 Screenshot 5 Screenshot 6
Mikhem
Game improvement ideas. |
Arkenai Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus Turalyon Alliance
2126
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Posted - 2014.04.25 17:45:00 -
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This is nice of you, but most DUST players don't have much incentive to go in many of these channels. Scanning? Wormholes? These are EVE things.
The social interface is also pretty bad and most people are more concerned with voicing up and shooting things.
It's nice of you to try, though! If I ever see you in space I'll be sure to give a friendly wave. Another terrible poster ._. |
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