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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2014.03.22 20:48:00 -
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Mandarine wrote:But this poster has fabricated this forum persona, for the aforementioned purposes, Not I, the fabrication is his. See? As you wrote earlier, you have no proof of that. It's an accusation you should only use with direct proof, not just because you don't like the posting history or play style of someone.
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Mandarine
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2014.03.22 20:54:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote: My response was the truth. You need actual, real life mental health intervention.
What about people who pretend, on this forum, being IRL somebody they really aren-¦t, just to further their ingame agenda and void critical assessment of their online behavior?
Do they need some kind of therapy make them distinguish RL from game?
Scipio Artelius wrote:Mandarine wrote:But this poster has fabricated this forum persona, for the aforementioned purposes, Not I, the fabrication is his. See? As you wrote earlier, you have no proof of that. It's an accusation you should only use with direct proof, not just because you don't like the posting history or play style of someone.
Just read those linked posts: it-¦s very eloquent, If you don-¦t, then don-¦t. But then don-¦t say there-¦s no huge flags in this supposed biogical woman turned trans (FtM?) ex-combat medic in iraq disabled vet nursing leukemic children and having a spouse who-¦s both male and female depending on posts.
Concentrated appeal to emotions.
This is why play-to-win is an abomination. Any meta becomes acceptable. I am appalled. |
Benny Ohu
Beneath the Ashes Margin of Silence
2750
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Posted - 2014.03.22 21:11:00 -
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actually you're a bigot, a creeper and a griefer, mandarine |
Alpharic Moregil
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.03.22 21:20:00 -
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Mandarine wrote: Just read those linked posts: it-¦s very eloquent, If you don-¦t, then don-¦t. But then don-¦t say there-¦s no huge flags in this supposed biogical woman turned trans (FtM?) ex-combat medic in iraq disabled vet nursing leukemic children and having a spouse who-¦s both male and female depending on posts.
Concentrated appeal to emotions.
This is why play-to-win is an abomination. Any meta becomes acceptable. I am appalled.
That tinfoil hat, heavy it is, shiny too.
@OP This charity sounds fantastic. Would like to see something like that in Kiwiland |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3324
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Posted - 2014.03.22 21:44:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Mag's wrote:Mandarine wrote:I am alright at trolling and being a tool FYP This is the truth. Am i the only one getting insane EVEmaisl from this guy?
Been stalking you too? She sent me a few irl threats a while back, along with some other slanderous stuff. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17305
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Posted - 2014.03.22 21:50:00 -
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Has the troll still not figured out where the line is drawn?
I received a few eve-mails, not nasty ones though. I gave up replying to them as a lost cause.
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Mandarine
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2014.03.22 21:58:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Been stalking you too? She sent me a few irl threats a while back, along with some other slanderous stuff.
Look, more lies! Not gonna feed your troll, as it-¦s already been addressed https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4364493#post4364493
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Has the troll still not figured out where the line is drawn?
Are you talking about this Lady Areola character, who created a stealth image of a pristine RL person, to show how gankers are good persons, and those who critique them horrible scum?
Don-¦t you think impersonating a nurse healing leukemic children as well as a disabled combat veteran, just to further one-¦s agenda, is downright terrifying?
Tell me exactly where the line is drawn in this meta? |
Benny Ohu
Beneath the Ashes Margin of Silence
2751
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:04:00 -
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Mandarine wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Been stalking you too? She sent me a few irl threats a while back, along with some other slanderous stuff.
Look, more lies! Not gonna feed your troll, as it-¦s already been addressed https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4364493#post4364493Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Has the troll still not figured out where the line is drawn?
Are you talking about this Lady Areola character, who created a stealth image of a pristine RL person, to show how gankers are good persons, and those who critique them horrible scum? Don-¦t you think impersonating a nurse healing leukemic children as well as a disabled combat veteran, just to further one-¦s agenda, is downright terrifying? Tell me exactly where the line is drawn in this meta? oh, lady fappington's not the one demonstrating the poor morals of 'those critiquing gankers' |
Mandarine
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:05:00 -
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It happens automatically because of the persona he has created.
I thought you EvE players were clever? |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3324
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:11:00 -
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Mandarine wrote:It happens automatically because of the persona he has created.
I thought you EvE players were clever?
How have you managed to avoid getting banned by now? Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
1332
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:35:00 -
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Wow, someone's got dat vendetta going!
Normally wouldn't address, but since yaknow, my RL is dragged into it...
Enlisted when I was 17. Went to boot camp to be an electronics tech. Found the job amazingly boring, and reclassed as a combat medic. Spent ten years as a medic, with three deployments to Iraq. Severely injured on my third deployment by a roadside bomb, And accepted a medical retirement. Came home from all that and decided to go to nursing school using the GI bill (go with what you know). Was able to test out of a ton of coursework due to previous experience and training, and managed to get my masters in nursing. Took that, grant money, and a loan, and (very recently) completed my PhD. in nursing, and became a certified nurse practitioner. Found out during my thesis research that the local children's hospital was desperately in need of nursing staff, and got hired on.
As for the configuration of my reproductive organs (if it matters), Yeah, I'm trans. I've had bad EVE experiences in the past with being trans in EVE, so I decided to keep it under wraps at first. At the urging of some awesome friends in the New Order, I've gotten a little braver and open about it.
So yes, transgender disabled combat medic turned pediatric nurse. I wanted to do good in life. I blow up spaceships in EVE and pretend to be a religious zealot for the New Order as a way to burn up some of the harder things I deal with on the job.
You forgot (and any good stalker would know this), I also doodle anthropomorphic animal characters from time to time.
So, my stalkerish bro, what good have you done in life? The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
Mandarine
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:43:00 -
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Oh look, I-¦ll just reformulate my RL story around the various do-gooding or sensible fantasies I-¦ve created for this particular troll character
I, for one, am no longer in favor of internet anonymity when I see what you people do with it, just because you play-to-win and will use any meta. This is amazingly pathetic.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3327
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:45:00 -
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Mandarine wrote:Oh look, I-¦ll just reformulate my RL story around the various do-gooding or sensible fantasies I-¦ve created for this particular troll character
I, for one, am no longer in favor of internet anonymity when I see what you people do with it, just because you play-to-win and will use any meta. This is amazingly pathetic.
You're pathetic. You're so determined to not stray from the "gankers are bad people" narrative you have wrapped yourself in that you are figuratively blind and deaf.
If you weren't so annoying, and didn't send IRL threats to random people, you'd be almost as laughable as Dinsdale. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
503
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:46:00 -
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Mandarine wrote:Oh look, I-¦ll just reformulate my RL story around the various do-gooding or sensible fantasies I-¦ve created for this particular troll character
I, for one, am no longer in favor of internet anonymity when I see what you people do with it, just because you play-to-win and will use any meta. This is amazingly pathetic.
And you are everything that is wrong with this world...
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |
admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
1005
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:48:00 -
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Mandarine wrote:Oh look, I-¦ll just reformulate my RL story around the various do-gooding or sensible fantasies I-¦ve created for this particular troll character
I, for one, am no longer in favor of internet anonymity when I see what you people do with it, just because you play-to-win and will use any meta. This is amazingly pathetic.
Seriously, get out, you toxic cretin. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
6973
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:48:00 -
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o7
I like EVE. Zimmy Zeta - I f*cking love martinis. the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. Carmen Electra - You are also on my block list. |
Mandarine
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:56:00 -
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I guess it-¦s pretty pointless to ask insensible people to read how someone expresses oneself and determine whether it makes sense or not at all.
However not being wary of meta manipulation, in a game that relies heavily on it, is pretty surprising for gamers who praise themselves on playing the most psychological MMO there is. |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
1335
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:56:00 -
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Mandarine wrote:Oh look, I-¦ll just reformulate my RL story around the various do-gooding or sensible fantasies I-¦ve created for this particular troll character
I, for one, am no longer in favor of internet anonymity when I see what you people do with it, just because you play-to-win and will use any meta. This is amazingly pathetic.
Oh man, yer right. It's utterly improbable that a combat medic would be injured in a warzone, come home, then go to nursing school. It's even more loonytunes to think that they'd find a good job while networking to write a thesis.
Icing on the cake though, that's the wanting to keep transgenderness low-key. Everyone knows GLBT people are welcome with open arms everywhere they go.
Whelp guys, it looks like our super well-organized and long term PR persona has been discovered! Those blasted EVE do-gooders, we're foiled again! Time to devlop a new long-term PR persona. EVE is very serious you know.
(That was all sarcasm)
Anyway, dear reader, if you've skipped to the last couple pages and just ran into the wall of crazy, head on over to Get Well Gamers and make a donation, if you can. Cash, games, old system you aren't using, anything is good. Fanfest's charity dinner is going to support them, and from my own personal experiences, those donations go to help kids who really need it. Thanks! The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14229
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:58:00 -
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Mandarine wrote:Oh look, I-¦ll just reformulate my RL story around the various do-gooding or sensible fantasies I-¦ve created for this particular troll character
I, for one, am no longer in favor of internet anonymity when I see what you people do with it, just because you play-to-win and will use any meta. This is amazingly pathetic.
Listen.
You're a terrible person, and you need to work on that.
Meanwhile, kindly shut up.
1 Kings 12:11
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
774
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Posted - 2014.03.22 22:59:00 -
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Mandarine wrote:I, for one, am no longer in favor of internet anonymity when I see what you people do with it, just because you play-to-win and will use any meta. This is amazingly pathetic. While I don't think it's necessary for anyone to identify themselves in RL for playing a game and wouldn't advise anyone to do it, you are always able to take a lead on this very issue through your own direct action. eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
2438
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Posted - 2014.03.22 23:00:00 -
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Mandarine wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Mandarine wrote:How is this personal if this info is all fabricated? When you address issues to a specific person, it's personal, whether you have fabricated it or not. But this poster has fabricated this forum persona, for the aforementioned purposes, Not I, the fabrication is his. See?
Be careful. While I agree that it is extremely unlikely the OP is telling the truth in this thread, there is zero proof either way.
If you start stating flatly the OP and his friends are liars, you can see the thread closed, your posts censored, or your char banned (or all of the above).
But it does show that once someone is proven to be a liar and griefer ingame, it is much harder for people to believe anything else they say is truth. If Chribba came out and said he was a pediatric nurse, very few would not believe him. This OP, however, far different situation.
Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
775
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Posted - 2014.03.22 23:09:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:But it does show that once someone is proven to be a liar and griefer ingame, it is much harder for people to believe anything else they say is truth. If Chribba came out and said he was a pediatric nurse, very few would not believe him. This OP, however, far different situation.
There is no single "me" that everyone shows all the time. We each have mutiple forms of behaviour based on the social norms and settings we are in.
How we act alone is not the same as how we act around family, nor the same as how we act at work, etc.
I'll happily put my feet on the lounge or coffee table at home, where I wouldn't even think of doing that at work. The two places have different rules of acceptable behaviour and it is quite possible for a well adjusted person to recognise what is appropriate where.
EvE is a game which has it's own social norms and expectations. How people act in EvE has no bearing on what job they can possibly have in RL, nor how they might treat others around them in RL. The social settings are totally different. eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17320
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Posted - 2014.03.22 23:10:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: Be careful.
While I don't agree with what Dinsdale says with reference to the truth, his advice is sound.
I poke fun at Dinsdale, I rarely agree with him about anything, but when he's right, he's right. +1 Dinsdale.
Heed his advice
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3333
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Posted - 2014.03.22 23:14:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: Be careful.
While I don't agree with what Dinsdale says with reference to the truth, his advice is sound. I poke fun at Dinsdale, I rarely agree with him about anything, but when he's right, he's right. +1 Dinsdale. Heed his advice
When Dinsdale is telling you to lay off... you know you've gone too far. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Mandarine
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2014.03.22 23:28:00 -
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That-¦s one of the saddest things I-¦ve ever seen online. I-¦m still shocked. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
779
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Posted - 2014.03.22 23:44:00 -
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Mandarine wrote:That-¦s one of the saddest things I-¦ve ever seen online. I-¦m still shocked. There's some common ground right there. It seems evident that everyone is saddened and shocked at the moment.
Maybe we can build on this point and get back to the original message of the thread.
Charity is good -> CCP is good for supporting charity -> the community is awesome as an integral part of CCP's activities. eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |
Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2725
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Posted - 2014.03.22 23:48:00 -
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Mandarine wrote:That-¦s one of the saddest things I-¦ve ever seen online. I-¦m still shocked.
Nobody cares if you're shocked or not. Go fellate a dirty sock, because you need to shut your mouth. What you are saying amounts to libel. Bet you're loving that internet anonymity now, aren't you? Because it's the only thing saving you from a lawsuit, IF the person you're libelling is also anonymous, that is.
While no one has a reason to believe the OP, as has been indicated several times, no one has any evidence either way, but as a science journalist myself with many friends and contacts in many fields, including medical, and a military background due to my father being a Lt Colonel working Sigint/Comint in the Australian Army and getting my hands on lots of little international secrets, I have a reason to believe the OP is telling the truth. But the OP's career isn't what matters here, neither is mine. It's the message that matters. And not only are you putting a damper on that message, you're ruining the good nature of its presentation.
You are the kinda person, I imagine, that if we were to meet at Fanfest, I probably wouldn't be buying you a beer. I imagine there are many anti-ganker types that would turn up with placards of protest against the New Order, seeing as how it's so difficult for you to keep game stuff in game and in context. In other words, you're making it personal. You're making it a problem that it doesn't need to be.
You're a typical angry carebear, ruining EVE and its forums like an anti-vaccinationist or a flat-earther ruins the internet. Your paranoia, however, leads me to also believe that you would be a likely candidate to fall for evidence denialism, so I wouldn't be surprised if you were involved in one of the crackpot NWO 'twoofer' movements out there anyway. Especially given your own standards of acceptable evidence.
As for the 'ulterior motive' of the OP, I don't see it asking for any ISK. I don't see anyone trying to get an advantage in EVE.
I did, however, look up Get Well Gamers and have an old 360 that I don't use and a few PG-rated racing games that I think I'll pack up later and send in. See, above all else, the OP made me aware of an organisation I didn't know about, and it turns out, I have something to give. I was going to sell it on Ebay but, because I don't really need the money, this seems more appropriate.
How many less-fortunate-people-than-yourself have you helped lately, Mandarine? Or are you only interested in helping yourself? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Mandarine
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
66
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Posted - 2014.03.22 23:55:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote: As for the 'ulterior motive' of the OP, I don't see it asking for any ISK. I don't see anyone trying to get an advantage in EVE.
As told time and time again, it-¦s to create a nice proper angelic RL persona and have it emotionally enforcing the idea that people who criticize ingame-accepted griefing are attacking people like this super proper angelic person. The bigger and more obvious the lie, the better it seems to work.
Are you unaware of the amount of emotional manipulation that goes in this game? tHave you ever tried contacting a Goon recruiter, for fun and to see how they do it? |
admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
1006
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Posted - 2014.03.23 00:02:00 -
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Mandarine wrote:Have you ever tried contacting a Goon recruiter, for fun and to see how they do it?
OP isn't a Goon and isn't trying to recruit you. Please return to whichever toxic waste dump you escaped from. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2727
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Posted - 2014.03.23 00:10:00 -
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Mandarine wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote: As for the 'ulterior motive' of the OP, I don't see it asking for any ISK. I don't see anyone trying to get an advantage in EVE.
As told time and time again, it-¦s to create a nice proper angelic RL persona and have it emotionally enforcing the idea that people who criticize ingame-accepted griefing are attacking people like this super proper angelic person. The bigger and more obvious the lie, the better it seems to work. Are you unaware of the amount of emotional manipulation that goes in this game? Have you ever tried contacting a Goon recruiter, for fun and to see how they do it?
I fell for the Goon recruitment scam myself over a year ago. Fortunately, I understood the difference between in-game ISK, which isn't real, and actual money. I lost 500mil isk, but actually, I lost nothing, because isk isn't real. I got over it, moved on, learned something new. I imagine, though, that you're reacting because someone hurt your pride somehow. Well, now you're hurting your own by being completely nuts. Beware hubris, especially in EVE.
For example, what makes you think that someone who plays EVE as a pirate or ganker or other villainous type can't possibly be a nice person in reality with well-rounded sensibilities and a virtuous nature? You're taking your queues of personality from a video game, dude. This is not sane. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
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