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Syrias Bizniz
Brave Operations - Lollipop Division Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.03.21 19:09:00 -
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Allow dictors to bubble up in deadspace.
RANT ON! |
Iudicium Vastus
Incognito Holdings and Savings
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Posted - 2014.03.21 20:15:00 -
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Nah, just see my forum sig here. Also, I might add that just bring a hictor (though that only works on medium+) but still, that infi-point works on them farmers. Nerf stabs/cloaks in FW? No, just.. -Fit more points -Fit faction points -Bring a friend or two with points (an alt is fine too) |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
3744
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Posted - 2014.03.21 20:50:00 -
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Syrias Bizniz wrote:Allow dictors to bubble up in deadspace.
RANT ON!
Or they could just implement the same feature the ESS enjoys:
Activating the ESS causes the ESS to infinity point you as long as you arre within activation range.
Make it so you have to activate the "button". Doing so causes the button to target you and infinity point you. You can no longer cloak to get safe, and you can no longer warp to get safe without first leaving the button's sphere of influence. |
Starbuck05
Evil Monkey Asylum Evil Monkeys Asylum
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Posted - 2014.03.21 20:55:00 -
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Or just alpha them before they warp off.. most peeps are afk when ypu show up, the ones that are not imediatly cloack up when they see somethin on d-scan .
Also , timer rollbacks -á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir ! -á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ?? |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
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Posted - 2014.03.21 23:05:00 -
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Starbuck05 wrote: Also , timer rollbacks
thanks! eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
725
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Posted - 2014.03.21 23:51:00 -
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Fit multiple scrams. Two usually works.
Since they are new toons, they don't have the speed usually to get away, so you can swap a web for a scram. eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
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Posted - 2014.03.22 01:22:00 -
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i do not have any problems to catch stabbed and cloaked farmers, catch % is pretty high if they stay to play and do not warp of and leave system when they see something on scan. |
Silverbackyererse
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Posted - 2014.03.22 01:50:00 -
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Your average farmer would just vanish faster than a member of Gallmil faced with a bar of soap if it gets a sniff of a dictor.
Would make for a far more interesting low-sec though. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2014.03.22 05:06:00 -
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Actually the bubble thing is a good idea. Allow dictor bubbles in low but change all bubble mechanics so that you cannot bubble 0 of a gate. Same as smart bombs. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.03.22 06:53:00 -
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Allow bubbles, let the plex inifipoint, shut down cloaks, deactivate stabs, instant timer rollbacks, more and powerful rats and militia wide info channels announcing who is running which plex in what ship.
That's the least CCP can do!!11 pew pew |
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Zappity
Stay Frosty.
858
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Posted - 2014.03.22 08:52:00 -
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I don't like the idea of a bubble or inifinity point in lowsec plexes. I fought a Firetail today who tried to scram kite me but couldn't take the damage. Because he was faster he could warp away when he pulled 10km range. Perfectly valid but he would have died to my rails if we were bubbled and he had to make it to the edge first.
Just do timer rollbacks. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
158
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Posted - 2014.03.25 12:46:00 -
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The solution is both easy and has been pushed and rejected in the past. Make rats scram more often.
HS - the occaisional scram (who really cares anyway) LS - frequent scrams by npc NULL - every anom should have multiple npc w/ scrams and belts should have a decent number of scramming rats
WH - add some scrammers in the c1 and c2 sites and up the number of scrammers in c3 sites. c4 and up - you're already pretty much committed as each wave contains multiple scramming ships.
BOTs will be easy prey with scramming rats. Actual players can take steps to minimize losses.
If you want to farm npc, you should have to actually commit to the sight when you warp to it. WH space is thriving w/ multiple scramming npc in sites, so I really don't want to hear how it would end all life in LS. People are in LS for a reason - an NPC scramming them in a belt isn't going to change that. |
RcTamiya Leontis
Satan's Unicorns
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Posted - 2014.03.25 12:56:00 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:The solution is both easy and has been pushed and rejected in the past. Make rats scram more often.
WH - add some scrammers in the c1 and c2 sites and up the number of scrammers in c3 sites. c4 and up - you're already pretty much committed as each wave contains multiple scramming ships.
Before that make them at least viable first lol c3 sites, solar cell for example, got rats with points, however as long as the majority of the community is not running c2 sites a simplea ddition of warp disrupting npc wouldn't change that .... |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
158
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Posted - 2014.03.25 13:18:00 -
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I hear you. Was just including all parts of space in the interest of being fair and balanced. As in LS, I feel adding a few scramming NPC will not clear out c2 space.
I think C2 are viable for a segment of the eve population. If you're going to wh space to get space rich - c5/c6 is where it's at for escallations and c4 is where it's at for sub-cap grinding. I see C1/C2 as stepping stones along a path. I don't see them as an end game home where long term viability is necessary. Kind of like L2 missions are great for a week 3 player but not viable for a 2006 character. L2 and C2 are something to work through on your eve journey, and were never intended as a final way station.
If you are going to WH space to pvp - a lot of folks think C2 are the 'sweet spot' for pvp (those not interested in a 30 on 30 T3 bore-fest). Those interested in the big T3 stuff work their way to c5/c6.
I really like this solution to botting. It just never seems to catch the eye of CCP. (I'm not a big conspiracy guy, but a lot of corp tax isk is brought in from npc sites. It's not moon goo isk, but it is passive isk.) |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate Sicarius Draconis
337
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Posted - 2014.03.25 16:28:00 -
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I've always wondered why the Heavy Dictor get a infi-point, but the regular dictor doesn't. CCP should just create a smaller warp field generator module that doesn't give a bubble, but does provide the infi-point and can only be fitted to dictors and inties. |
Syrias Bizniz
Brave Operations - Lollipop Division Brave Collective
267
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Posted - 2014.03.25 16:35:00 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:I've always wondered why the Heavy Dictor get a infi-point, but the regular dictor doesn't. CCP should just create a smaller warp field generator module that doesn't give a bubble, but does provide the infi-point and can only be fitted to dictors and inties.
Only to Dictors. But yeah, that'd be sweet. |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
735
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Posted - 2014.03.25 16:50:00 -
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Stop trying to PvP farmers... |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
658
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:17:00 -
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Negative Ghostrider the pattern is full. I'm CEO *****.
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Cannibal Kane
Cannibal Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:17:00 -
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The Infinite Point Phobos Says NO!!! "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. He flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. His hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. It was truly majestic. And while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off. Because I am like that." - NEONOVUS |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate Sicarius Draconis
337
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:03:00 -
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Syrias Bizniz wrote:Estella Osoka wrote:I've always wondered why the Heavy Dictor get a infi-point, but the regular dictor doesn't. CCP should just create a smaller warp field generator module that doesn't give a bubble, but does provide the infi-point and can only be fitted to dictors and inties. Only to Dictors. But yeah, that'd be sweet.
Ok, Dictors only, but the CPU & PG would have to be set so that you would have to choose between either the interdiction sphere launcher, or the infinite point.
This would still make farmers in the novice plexes hard to catch, but make it more riskier for farmers to farm in small, medium, and large plexes. Considering the reward they get with minimal risk, I'd say that would make the farming practice more balanced. |
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2014.03.26 16:52:00 -
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I'm just looking to clarify. Are we hating on bots or farmers? |
Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire
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Posted - 2014.03.26 16:56:00 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:I'm just looking to clarify. Are we hating on bots or farmers?
Yes. "I honestly thought I was in lowsec"
Moving pictures |
flakeys
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
2114
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Posted - 2014.03.27 14:31:00 -
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Lot's of comments wich would also alter the fw fun for those who do like to pewpew.
Why not just make it so that once you enter a plex it has an X amount radius wich shuts off the effect of a stab ?
Why change things that are working as they should just to finish off the way one mod works in that specific area instead of only aiming to alter that specific mod ?
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
715
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Posted - 2014.03.27 16:08:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Lot's of comments wich would also alter the fw fun for those who do like to pewpew.
Why not just make it so that once you enter a plex it has an X amount radius wich shuts off the effect of a stab ?
Why change things that are working as they should just to finish off the way one mod works in that specific area instead of only aiming to alter that specific mod ?
if you can tackle then you can tackle, no matter how many stabs frigate has, stabs change nothing if you adapt yourself and think out of fotm cookie cutter fits. |
Taoist Dragon
Sh1t Happens. And then you die.
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Posted - 2014.03.27 21:01:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:flakeys wrote:Lot's of comments wich would also alter the fw fun for those who do like to pewpew.
Why not just make it so that once you enter a plex it has an X amount radius wich shuts off the effect of a stab ?
Why change things that are working as they should just to finish off the way one mod works in that specific area instead of only aiming to alter that specific mod ? if you can tackle then you can tackle, no matter how many stabs frigate has, stabs change nothing if you adapt yourself and think out of fotm cookie cutter fits.
Come on BM you know 90 of the people reading these forums only know fotm cookie cutter fits! That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
http://taoistdragon.blogspot.com.au/ |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2014.03.27 21:26:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote: if you can tackle then you can tackle, no matter how many stabs frigate has, stabs change nothing if you adapt yourself and think out of fotm cookie cutter fits.
i've seen industrials with all lows fitted by stabs.
what frigate fit would you advice? The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Syrias Bizniz
Brave Operations - Lollipop Division Brave Collective
268
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Posted - 2014.03.27 21:29:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Bad Messenger wrote: if you can tackle then you can tackle, no matter how many stabs frigate has, stabs change nothing if you adapt yourself and think out of fotm cookie cutter fits.
i've seen industrials with all lows fitted by stabs. what frigate fit would you advice?
Vigil, AB, 4x Scram. |
PsychoTroop
State Protectorate Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:01:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Fit multiple scrams. Two usually works.
Since they are new toons, they don't have the speed usually to get away, so you can swap a web for a scram.
I thought the problem people like you had with scrammed LP farmers is they were denying you an honorable fight. If you know they're newer pvp'ers then you're trying to exploit their inexperience - which means you have no honorable intentions whatsoever, nor do you have even the virtual guts to fight opponents of your own skill level.
I'm all for stabbed LP farming. Still takes more guts than roving bands of 'neuts' exploiting uncertainty about their intentions and the 'puppy in the window' convenience of selecting your opponents from the plexes they're obliged to occupy for 10 - 30 minutes to get the reward they're looking for. They're still flagged all the time, wherever they go. Takes more nads than 'neuts' and pirates who just have to jump out of a plex to be free of the fight. |
Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
891
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:06:00 -
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PsychoTroop wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Fit multiple scrams. Two usually works.
Since they are new toons, they don't have the speed usually to get away, so you can swap a web for a scram. I thought the problem people like you had with scrammed LP farmers is they were denying you an honorable fight. If you know they're newer pvp'ers then you're trying to exploit their inexperience - which means you have no honorable intentions whatsoever, nor do you have even the virtual guts to fight opponents of your own skill level. I'm all for stabbed LP farming. Still takes more guts than roving bands of 'neuts' exploiting uncertainty about their intentions and the 'puppy in the window' convenience of selecting your opponents from the plexes they're obliged to occupy for 10 - 30 minutes to get the reward they're looking for. They're still flagged all the time, wherever they go. Takes more nads than 'neuts' and pirates who just have to jump out of a plex to be free of the fight. He said they were new toons, not new PvPers. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
715
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Posted - 2014.03.28 11:04:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Bad Messenger wrote: if you can tackle then you can tackle, no matter how many stabs frigate has, stabs change nothing if you adapt yourself and think out of fotm cookie cutter fits.
i've seen industrials with all lows fitted by stabs. what frigate fit would you advice?
industrials do not fit on gated plexes so question is irrelevant on stabbed farmer thread. |
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