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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.03.22 00:28:00 -
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One of the most frequent questions I see on the Eve forums is "How do you know if a corporation is good or not?" To help each person come to their own answer, I have written a "step by step guide" on how you can make your search for the right corporation ("corp") easier. Ideally this will help you avoid a long employment history filled with corps you joined and left because you only found out that they didn't "fit" you after you joined them.
I will be the first to admit that I do not have much first hand experience when it comes to actually finding and then joining a corp since I have been fortunate enough to have been in the same corp since day one. Instead, my experience comes from over seven years as the head of recruitment for my corp. I have spent hours and hours talking to recruits, hearing their stories and struggles in finding what is "just right" for them.
Below you will find the guide, written by myself and with comments from other recruiters, CEOs, new players and of course grumpy old vets like my self who has nothing better to do then post on the forums all day
How do I find a corp?
There are several ways to find a corp. Some rely on pure luck and some rely on you seeking out the right people.
1. The recruitment channel. Personally I avoid the recruitment channel like the plague. It's very good for newer corps but its also very messy, can be plagued with smacktalk and pointless chatter and tends to be filled with "spammy" advertisements.
Here is my advice on how to handle this channel. First off "block" anyone who spams their ads several times in a row or within a short amount of time. Instead, look for people who are sitting small chatting. Don't be afraid to join in on the conversation they are having.
Second, think carefully before "advertising" yourself. You're asking to get spammed with convo invites, possibly from people who aren't a good fit for you. More on that later.
2. The forums. This is the one I prefer to use. You will still have to spend hours reading through posts that seem the same, but you will soon learn to read between the lines. Is it written in a humorous way? Does it look careless? Does it sound too good to be true? (If the last one occurs that's most likely the case!) You can "bump" your own post several times during the next couple of days (just remember to follow the forum rules) so as many recruiters as possible can see it.
Try to include something about yourself to make your post more personal. I am not saying go all out like "I like to read Harry Potter and i have a collie named Lassie" just to make that clear. But don't make it to shallow either.
For instance, let's take "2 mill SP Caldari pilot, looking for low sec or 0.0, post here" ... An ad like that makes me (personally) just close the thread and move on.
Now lets try to ad in something that tells the recruiter more about the person.
"I am a 2 mill SP Caldari player. I'm interested in exploring low sec or potentially 0.0 but i would appreciate some guidance since I am still new. I am however capable of doing my own research, I just want to know that if I have a question, someone will try to help me if they can. I'm in my mid-20s have plenty of time to play due to working from home so I have no problem meeting any requirements regarding online time and operations. Thank you for your interest"
This is the kind of attitude I would be looking for in an ad and this would get a reply from me, even if i am fairly sure he would not be interested, but he deserved a free bump and that will help him out.
Due to space restrictions more about this covered under more side tips.
3. Engaging in PvP and the dreaded "Losing Your First Ship". Believe it or not but even if someone just blew up your ship it does not mean that they are a bad person. Start off by looking at their corp info and then do a Google search to see if you can find their recruitment ads, posts they have made on the forums, or even their killboard. If it looks like something you could be interested in, contact the person who blew up your ship. Make it clear that you are not looking to whine but explain to him that you are new and that you are interested in learning the game.
In some cases you will be asked to come back when you have more skillpoints (SP) or time in-game, or you will just get laughed at and convo closed, but in some cases you might end up finding a really good corp this way.
Please note that even if a corp has a minimum SP requirement it does not mean you will get turned down. Make a good impression on them and they might give you a chance to prove your self.
4. See that random person mining in a belt, talking in local, in a wormhole or even just flying a cool looking ship? Follow the steps listed above. Find information about them,then contact their official recruiter or CEO if their corp description sounds interesting to you.
5. The in-game recruitment tool. (Thanks goes to Mocam for reminding me about this) The in-game recruitment tool can be very handy once you have a pretty good idea what you are looking for. It will allow you to specify things like what timezone you are active, what you are looking to do in the game, preferred language, play style and a bunch of nice options. You can then search and find corporations that meet your criteria.
However, there there is no verification of activities advertised by a corp, meaning a corp's recruiter can put activities in the ad that sound good or that they wished they did but don't actually do. So please keep in mind that like with all other recruitment tools, its not always accurate and you need to do proper research to find out if you are being mislead.
Post 1/6 Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.03.22 00:28:00 -
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Reserved Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
1497
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Posted - 2014.03.22 00:29:00 -
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Reserved Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.03.22 00:30:00 -
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Reserved Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.03.22 00:31:00 -
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Reserved Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.03.22 00:32:00 -
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Reserved Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds Affirmative.
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Posted - 2014.03.22 00:40:00 -
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Ooh no...not a new version. Means I have to remake my copy paste macro for the forum. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2014.03.22 01:06:00 -
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API keys are "completely safe" only in the context that the malicious party cannot do anything to your account simply by having access to the API key.
You should never assume that the information accessible via the API is going to be treated as secret. Expect that the information gleaned through the API is going to appear on the forums within about five seconds of you handing over the API keys. Is any of that information going to damage your reputation, cause difficulties with friends, expose a secret cyno alt, or otherwise cause difficulty? If so, simply don't hand over the API keys.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
1497
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Posted - 2014.03.22 01:07:00 -
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Updated with information regarding war decs, and more help on finding a corporation in Faction Warfare.
And now more on API keys Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2014.03.22 01:16:00 -
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Upon joining a corp, by all means trust your corpmates, but not with your stuff.
Psychotic Monk for CSM 9 |
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
1497
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Posted - 2014.03.22 01:29:00 -
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And updated again!
At this rate i will need to make a version 4.0 Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds Affirmative.
3854
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Posted - 2014.03.22 03:43:00 -
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NC, you might want to ask CCP / ISD to change the URL in the New Player Resource sticky to link to this version instead of the 1.0 / 2.0 version it now links to. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
1497
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Posted - 2014.03.22 03:46:00 -
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Request for the link to be changed is already pending. Will most likely take a day or two. Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds Affirmative.
3854
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Posted - 2014.03.22 04:01:00 -
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NightCrawler 85 wrote:Request for the link to be changed is already pending. Will most likely take a day or two.
I will refrain from reporting other posts, so that the workload will be less and it will be handled quicker Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds Affirmative.
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Posted - 2014.03.27 16:11:00 -
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Bump because it belongs on page one. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.03.27 17:20:00 -
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IMO it should get pinned. BLFOX is currently recruiting |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds Affirmative.
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Posted - 2014.03.27 19:25:00 -
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Thanatos Marathon wrote:IMO it should get pinned.
Same here. But then NC cant keep making new versions. So the link in New Citizens Resources should work. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
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Posted - 2014.03.28 07:30:00 -
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Version THREE!
Always nice to see even your old guide refresh on page 1. Because you disdained all my counsel, and my reproof you ignoredGÇö I, in my turn, will laugh at your doom; will mock when terror overtakes you; -- Ultimate Griefer's Handbook |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.16 16:10:00 -
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Bumping to give people a chance to add more points I might have missed. Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1264
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Posted - 2014.05.16 22:15:00 -
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You forgot to add: Norwegian people are weird...it's ok, don't hold it against them in EVE.
Good guide.
I'm listening to-áBj+¦rk, playing EVE, eating fishsticks, and I'm cold....this is immersion gaming. |
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Kid Sister X
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.17 02:56:00 -
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Thanks for writing this! I'm new to EVE and currently looking for a corp. Your guide is well written and super helpful! |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.17 03:20:00 -
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And an update added!
Under more side tips you can now find a note on where to start looking for corporations that does not use English as their main way of communicating. All this time since the first one was written and still there are things that has been overlooked
And thank you for the nice comments! Happy to see that this guide is still helpful Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.17 03:20:21 -
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And an update added!
Under more side tips you can now find a note on where to start looking for corporations that does not use English as their main way of communicating. All this time since the first one was written and still there are things that has been overlooked
And thank you for the nice comments! Happy to see that this guide is still helpful
Phoibe Enterprises
The Eve Reader - Audio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.25 20:52:00 -
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Updated with information about third party recruiters. Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.05.25 20:52:46 -
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Updated with information about third party recruiters.
Phoibe Enterprises
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Highlord DS
Mostly Harmful Pirate Corp The Predictables
0
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Posted - 2014.05.27 12:55:00 -
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This deserves a sticky. Its posts like these that can have a great impact on player retention in the game, assuming of course the players in question can find it. |
Highlord DS
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.27 12:55:47 -
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This deserves a sticky. Its posts like these that can have a great impact on player retention in the game, assuming of course the players in question can find it. |
Litheby Anneto
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.03 15:37:00 -
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This is a fantastic post, very detailed and helpful.
Thanks NightCrawler 85 and all the others highlighted in the post. |
Litheby Anneto
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.03 15:37:14 -
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This is a fantastic post, very detailed and helpful.
Thanks NightCrawler 85 and all the others highlighted in the post. |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.06.20 06:49:00 -
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Updated with information on alternate ways to find a RP corporation. Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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