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I Riven I
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.22 11:27:00 -
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And then users would create features on their own which through voting process would possibly come out in next expansions??
Like linux basically.
Im sure we have a more then willing and capable community to do it. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2014.03.22 11:30:00 -
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Intellectual Property.
Why doesn't Microsoft release their source Code, or Apple, Sony, Nintendo, etc?
Open source is only one model and doesn't work for all situations, particularly monetization.
CCP provide a developer API that allows calls to the server to gain data. They don't need to give away their source code to allow third-party apps.
Also, their source code might be embarassing. eve-bazaar - Discount prices on ships and PLEX. Real savings to drive your ISK further. |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1384
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Posted - 2014.03.22 11:40:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Also, their source code might be embarrassing.
/me whistles pos codeGǪ. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2014.03.22 11:56:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Also, their source code might be embarrassing. /me whistles pos codeGǪ. /me harmonises with S&I code.
Psychotic Monk for CSM 9 |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
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Posted - 2014.03.22 12:27:00 -
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ctrl-a shift-del
Done! Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
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Posted - 2014.03.22 12:32:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:ctrl-a shift-del
Done!
Forgot Alt+F4 "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |
dexington
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.22 12:35:00 -
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Then anyone could make a private server, like with wow, which probably would be really bad because a big part of eve is the same universe concept.
btw: the source was leaked years ago.
I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
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Posted - 2014.03.22 13:32:00 -
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Did you hit all the branches of the stupid tree as you feel through it?
Why would they release the source code? It makes no sense as it opens it up for hacks, copying, and basically anything people could rip out of it to make new games.
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admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
999
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Posted - 2014.03.22 16:07:00 -
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Themanfromdalmontee wrote:Did you hit all the branches of the stupid tree as you feel through it?
Given all his recent posts I think he did, and then went back up for another ride. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3307
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Posted - 2014.03.22 16:12:00 -
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I Riven I wrote:And then users would create features on their own which through voting process would possibly come out in next expansions??
Like linux basically.
Im sure we have a more then willing and capable community to do it.
Because most of those "features" would just be botting. Which is rampant enough in this game already. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1341
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Posted - 2014.03.22 16:29:00 -
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dexington wrote:btw: the source was leaked years ago.
The Abuser "leak" in 2008 (which I assume you are referring to as it received the most publicity) was only client code, no server code. Dozens have done the same as Abuser did back then (decompile the python portions of the client code) in the years since. |
Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
310
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Posted - 2014.03.22 16:47:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Also, their source code might be embarrassing. /me whistles pos codeGǪ. /me harmonises with S&I code. /me covers ears... oh god the shrieking noise... -- |
Real Serious PVPer
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2014.03.22 16:49:00 -
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The source of EVE can be found in PVP. PVP is both the Alpha and Omega of EVE. All serious PVPers know this to be true. -áSerious about being serious- Putting the "P "into PVP one fight at a time. -áMUFC |
Serene Repose
Saanen Freight Service
1141
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Posted - 2014.03.22 16:53:00 -
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Real Serious PVPer wrote:The source of EVE can be found in PVP. PVP is both the Alpha and Omega of EVE. All serious PVPers know this to be true. Is this like serious comedy?
Brace yourselves. Riven is a "Think Bot". It's the wave of the future, bots that have "ideas". Once one is let loose, there's no stopping it. It's similar to a virus, except for one thing. It never gets anywhere.
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
SpaceSaft
Sub Par. Beacon Light Alliance
50
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Posted - 2014.03.22 18:07:00 -
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Geee I don't know why do specialized industrial companies not share their reason of success and well being for everyone to compete with them?
I'd appreciate some interface open sourcing that doesn't affect gameplay but say, spreadsheet rendering or their 3d models under certain conditions to make the 3d printing properly legal. But I completely understand that they don't do it. Besides that I also hold the opinion that CCP should make a PC version for Dust 514. |
Catherine Wolfisheim
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.03.22 18:28:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Why doesn't Microsoft release their source code, or Apple, Sony, Nintendo, etc? Apple and Microsoft do release some source code whenever needed. One of the main benefits of OS X is actually that a part of the source code of the OS, Darwin, is freely available; http://www.opensource.apple.com/
However, what may work for them may not work for CCP. |
Bael Malefic
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2014.03.22 19:38:00 -
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Hey, how about you make your proprietary software open source so me and other hobbyists can tinker with it and never pay for it again?
No. Just no. |
COMM4NDER
Legendary Umbrellas
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Posted - 2014.03.24 05:59:00 -
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Bael Malefic wrote:Hey, how about you make your proprietary software open source so me and other hobbyists can tinker with it and never pay for it again?
No. Just no.
Because OS means that you will never have to pay again. Some parts in EVE are already OS. Without assets you wont do anything with just the client code.
But looking here, i don't think CCP would benefit in the short run from this. Maybe in the long run but that would need documentation and code cleanups and time something CCP probably don't have.
Valve just made the Direct3D -> OpenGL layer public. Lets see you compile and hack the game with it. Features & Ideas Tag shortcuts - Make an FC enjoy his position more! Overview - Show fleet members only! |
Led Zeppelin420
Midnight Plague
0
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Posted - 2014.03.24 06:02:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Themanfromdalmontee wrote:Did you hit all the branches of the stupid tree as you feel through it? Given all his recent posts I think he did, and then went back up for another ride.
This is space there is no gravity to pull him down he just continues to bounce from branch to branch never reaching the end. |
Muestereate
Minions LLC
199
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Posted - 2014.03.24 07:58:00 -
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We've already got Morons working on the code and you want more?? |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.24 08:54:00 -
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It would be interesting to get some meta-data on the codebase though. How big the source code is, how much is written in what languages. Just interesting facts you can't really use in any way.
A release of the source code itself is of course out of the question. It's their intellectual property and they have a right to use it for their own commercial gain without releasing it to anyone else. In this case it would pretty much destroy everything that makes this game what it is because if these player-made changes even functioned at all in the server environment, any notion of balance would be absolutely destroyed. Things would probably get chaotic and most people would stop playing the game completely. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Hevymetal
POT Corp Semper Ardens Alliance
222
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Posted - 2014.03.24 12:59:00 -
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I Riven I wrote:And then users would create features on their own which through voting process would possibly come out in next expansions??
Like linux basically.
Im sure we have a more then willing and capable community to do it.
Why not leave your front door open when you leave your house for the week. Put a sign up in your front yard asking your neighbors to help you "Remodel & Improve" your house.
Like linux basically.
Im sure we have a more then willing and capable community to do it.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
501
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:05:00 -
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Give me source I give you Hax :D
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