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Logan Williams
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Posted - 2006.05.06 11:42:00 -
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I too was in Curse Coalition for a little while. I was told to "Gank at all cost no matter who or where they are!!"
*Fade from dream sequence and lying awake in bed*
Actually man, you're clueless. I remember going to empire one night and was specifically going to go do some pirating. It wasn't a big group, just myself and two other guys from B-B. It was later decided, in one of those alliance meetings that you imply never happened, that pirating was bad and that NOBODY in alliance was to go to empire and shoot "clear" for ANY reason.
As far as the history of the matter goes, you're clueless. (I'm seeing a pattern here) When ISS first moved out there, they ran haulers through Curse with no regard as to who was there, why they were there, or the advantage that some would-be Coalition enemies might get from having a "neutral" station so close to Curse.
NBSI = "Not Blue Shoot It". By the third day in alliance you should have figured that out. (Here's that "clueless" concept again) If you had such "moral" issues with shooting noobs in empire why did you go to empire looking for easy noob kills? You, as a player, should know that the newer players will prolly stay closer to and in to empire. Yet, YOU sir chose to fire and cost that guy his first Raven.
As far as your chosen new "friends", if you knew their history of "petty pirating and griefing" (I think that's how Velios put it) in Unertek (neutrals included) you might not be so happy to run and join them.
in short, get a clue man. |
Hoshi
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Posted - 2006.05.06 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Bollibompa They dont post all their kills or deaths, especially not the deaths.
They dont post their kills involving fighterdrones, for example, and not either several new t2 ships, lol.
Have you ever seen a 100% accurate killboard? They don't exist. We ask (beg) our members to post all kills and losses and there isn't much more we can do, we are not going to start kicking members out just because they don't post their mails. One reason we decided to start new from 22/4 was the inaccuracy of our older boards.
If you have any missing mails just evemail them to me or any other CC director and we will make sure they are added. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Mynas Atoch
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Posted - 2006.05.06 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi If you have any missing mails just evemail them to me or any other CC director and we will make sure they are added.
I'm afraid I can't do that as every kill and death I have been involved in is already on your board. That red font does my head in, though :(
Kicking sounds a bit harsh, but I read that some corps fine players for failing to post kills/deaths.
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Bollibompa
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Posted - 2006.05.06 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi
Have you ever seen a 100% accurate killboard? They don't exist. We ask (beg) our members to post all kills and losses and there isn't much more we can do, we are not going to start kicking members out just because they don't post their mails. One reason we decided to start new from 22/4 was the inaccuracy of our older boards.
If you have any missing mails just evemail them to me or any other CC director and we will make sure they are added.
No I wont, as you stated yourself, you have already started to trying to fix that.
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Valkazm
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Posted - 2006.05.06 12:44:00 -
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wow ISS are good at making alts to smack first of all the new killboard has been up for a week or two about the time the war started ... If you see a kill that isnt posted take it up with that person and smack them about it .. This topic has really gone downhill really but hitts its low with theese damn alts being used to keep the fire burning .. Frankly its abit insulting and lowers your own views when every single one of CC has the CC tag on ..
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Bollibompa
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Posted - 2006.05.06 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Valkazm wow ISS are good at making alts to smack first of all the new killboard has been up for a week or two about the time the war started ... If you see a kill that isnt posted take it up with that person and smack them about it .. This topic has really gone downhill really but hitts its low with theese damn alts being used to keep the fire burning .. Frankly its abit insulting and lowers your own views when every single one of CC has the CC tag on ..
orly....
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Jacob Majestic
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Posted - 2006.05.06 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Valkazm wow ISS are good at making alts to smack first of all the new killboard has been up for a week or two about the time the war started ... If you see a kill that isnt posted take it up with that person and smack them about it .. This topic has really gone downhill really but hitts its low with theese damn alts being used to keep the fire burning .. Frankly its abit insulting and lowers your own views when every single one of CC has the CC tag on ..
Err, I was talking about a loss that happened six months ago -- you know, me getting exploded by you? I was just curious, that's all.
And I don't post with alts
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Valkazm
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Posted - 2006.05.07 01:00:00 -
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Alright m8 wasent refering to should have qouted i guess ..
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maGz
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Posted - 2006.05.07 14:05:00 -
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just ______________________
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James Snowscoran
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Posted - 2006.05.08 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi
Originally by: Bollibompa They dont post all their kills or deaths, especially not the deaths.
They dont post their kills involving fighterdrones, for example, and not either several new t2 ships, lol.
Have you ever seen a 100% accurate killboard? They don't exist. We ask (beg) our members to post all kills and losses and there isn't much more we can do, we are not going to start kicking members out just because they don't post their mails. One reason we decided to start new from 22/4 was the inaccuracy of our older boards.
If you have any missing mails just evemail them to me or any other CC director and we will make sure they are added.
There are corporations out there that kicks member for consistently failing to report losses, Coreli being one of them. It's a matter of internal discipline and refusing to be a haven for killboard *****s. -----
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.05.08 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: Logan Williams
When ISS first moved out there, they ran haulers through Curse with no regard as to who was there, why they were there, or the advantage that some would-be Coalition enemies might get from having a "neutral" station so close to Curse.
When ISS first started running haulers we were blue to 5, and the Doril route was perfectly legitimate for us. Then CC started hauler ganking without any prior warning, so I suggest you get your facts straight.
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Lt Hole
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Posted - 2006.05.08 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Logan Williams
When ISS first moved out there, they ran haulers through Curse with no regard as to who was there, why they were there, or the advantage that some would-be Coalition enemies might get from having a "neutral" station so close to Curse.
When ISS first started running haulers we were blue to 5, and the Doril route was perfectly legitimate for us. Then CC started hauler ganking without any prior warning, so I suggest you get your facts straight.
What does being set to blue with the 5 have to do with the member corps of CC? We're two seperate groups.
Looks like you talked to the wrong people about securing passage to KDF.
Which means you're the one that screwed up.
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.05.08 16:42:00 -
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We were blue to the owners of the pipe, then the owners moved on and CC started shooting.
Everyone knows this.
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Small Miner
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Posted - 2006.05.08 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog We were blue to the owners of the pipe, then the owners moved on and CC started shooting.
Everyone knows this.
And you didn't stop to think what would happen if the previous owners left. It is your own fault for not securing "the pipe" for your haulers. Through combat or diplomacy.
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Lt Hole
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Posted - 2006.05.08 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog We were blue to the owners of the pipe, then the owners moved on and CC started shooting.
Everyone knows this.
You still telling that tired old lie?
How did you determine who owned the pipe anyway?
Did the tooth fairy tell you? |
Xamand
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Posted - 2006.05.13 05:25:00 -
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Edited by: Xamand on 13/05/2006 05:29:38
Originally by: evillives Edited by: evillives on 06/05/2006 06:13:00 Edited by: evillives on 06/05/2006 05:58:11 Wheres a forum necro when you need one i seem to remember when i was Curse Alliance a very similar thing happened =P Of course the original CC had a charter somewhere on these forums =P But as for CC its definatly not a new name to the region its in first came Curse Coalition then the Curse Alliance and now apparently someone brought CC back from teh dead =P Of course this is when Tyrell corp was in the Stain Alliance and was all anti-pirate funny how those guys (post fall of the curse alliance) are doing the exact same thing we did then (*cough* hippocracy anyone *cough*) And yeah im posting with an alt cus my main just cant handle a gank blob of tyrell members ;)
Originally by: Tara Read Ive never seen so many pilots complain and whine about being shot in 0.0? When did killing in 0.0 become "piracy"
Isn't that why CCP made 0.0? So you could shoot people and not worry about concord or security status? Im confused here... If you don't like it, don't come here. Its basic game mechanics. 0.0 = Dangerous; Expect people looking to shoot YOU; not roids or NPC's.
As who ever wrote tyrell corps policies when they were in teh stain alliance fighting the curse alliance calling us pirates =)
No need for a forum necro, as one of the founders of Tyrell Corp I can attest to what you say. Most of those involved in writing the old Tyrell charter, myself included, left the corp when it became clear that some no longer wished to keep to the principles that Tyrell and the Curse Coaltion were founded with. The original CC was strictly anti-pirate and was set up from a couple of small alliances resident in Curse when Sinister and friends decided to take their pirating to higher levels and formed the CA. Hence Curse Alliance of Pirates :) The CC's intention was to make Curse a free space area, to allow people to come out to 0.0 to an area where they wouldn't be shot by the first ship that came along. Seems some things change :( Xamand CEO Cirrius Technologies OXIDE |
Rebekah
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog We were blue to the owners of the pipe, then the owners moved on and CC started shooting.
Everyone knows this.
Ancient history BD and inaccurate. The 5 and Tyrell shared standings while they were in the curse region and they were perfectly happy for us to police the northern borders on this basis. After they left curse we were faced with anarchy as the curse region became a free-for-all.
It was with this background that the CDC and CC alliances were formed to try and stabalise the region. As you well know standings and shared standings management are difficult at the best of times - The standings we have now are, as they are. They have evolved of the last few months, they may not be perfect but there you go.
Originally by: Xamand
No need for a forum necro, as one of the founders of Tyrell Corp I can attest to what you say. Most of those involved in writing the old Tyrell charter, myself included, left the corp when it became clear that some no longer wished to keep to the principles that Tyrell and the Curse Coaltion were founded with. The original CC was strictly anti-pirate and was set up from a couple of small alliances resident in Curse when Sinister and friends decided to take their pirating to higher levels and formed the CA. Hence Curse Alliance of Pirates :) The CC's intention was to make Curse a free space area, to allow people to come out to 0.0 to an area where they wouldn't be shot by the first ship that came along. Seems some things change :(
Sorry Xam but with all due respect you have no idea about what we have had to face over the last few months in curse - none! Tyrell still holds to all its original principles regarding piracy. There is no need to go over things again and again but those who define piracy as attacking those who have no standings are living in a dream world - That may work fine in korama Xam but out here its different. Curse is in a permenant state of war. If you come accross someone who is not flagged as a friend then we have to assume they are enemies. THIS IS NOT PIRACY! it is self preservation.
On a personal note Xam to try and insinuate that the current CC or Tyrell is basically the same as the old CA is a pretty low blow. Oh yes and lets not forget here that you obvously don't have that much of a problem with our current actions considering that you have been supplying us with parts for our dreads and freighter loads of Battleships.
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Xamand
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Posted - 2006.05.13 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Rebekah
Sorry Xam but with all due respect you have no idea about what we have had to face over the last few months in curse - none! Tyrell still holds to all its original principles regarding piracy. There is no need to go over things again and again but those who define piracy as attacking those who have no standings are living in a dream world - That may work fine in korama Xam but out here its different. Curse is in a permenant state of war. If you come accross someone who is not flagged as a friend then we have to assume they are enemies. THIS IS NOT PIRACY! it is self preservation.
On a personal note Xam to try and insinuate that the current CC or Tyrell is basically the same as the old CA is a pretty low blow. Oh yes and lets not forget here that you obvously don't have that much of a problem with our current actions considering that you have been supplying us with parts for our dreads and freighter loads of Battleships.
NRDSI - not red don't shoot it, can work in 0.0, though admittedly you will lose some ships to neutrals before realising they are hostile. As we did to the Tyrell ships that attacked our pilots in Pure Blind and Fade. Not sure how that was defending Curse, but there must have been some reasoning behind it. NRDSI just means that you have to keep an up to date standings list.
Your comments about piracy are quite funny, did you actually read my post and the post I was quoting? I wasn't calling you pirates, but you do operate an aggresive NBSI policy as did the old CA. Can you remember back to two and half years ago, to the forum wars with Reclaimer and the posts by the original CC calling CA the Curse Alliance of Pirates?
Originally by: Rebekah
There is no need to go over things again and again but those who define piracy as attacking those who have no standings are living in a dream world
I guess not.
Btw, I didn't make any personal attacks, so I don't know why you are. I still have some oog friends in Tyrell. Oh, and I do have issues with how Tyrell do things, hence why I and a lot of others left and why I haven't returned to the corp I used to love. I would also hardly call selling a load of battleships to you over 6 months ago and a handful of dread parts recently, aiding and abetting. Xamand CEO Cirrius Technologies OXIDE |
Phoenus
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Posted - 2006.05.15 23:11:00 -
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Edited by: Phoenus on 15/05/2006 23:13:11
Originally by: Tara Read Edited by: Tara Read on 04/05/2006 18:47:12 Edited by: Tara Read on 04/05/2006 18:45:48
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Originally by: Tara Read I dunno bout that; the MC hac's I took without them firing a shot back; had some of the worst ISHTAR fittings I've ever seen.
to be honest, yours was pretty crap aswell by my standards. Each to their own though.
Be careful what you say though Tara, the incident with your smack in local and then getting righteously ganked by Farjung/Tovarisch and a couple more MC and then following said ganking with more smack has brought many a smile to us on our forums
i know nectar and phoenus werent smiling when i outsmarted them...
Don't make me laugh. What got me killed was the poor intel on *my* part of not checking Rens local, not you outsmarting me.
Your smack when Farjung & Co. killed you made a lot of people laugh
What was it?
Quote: [ 2006.04.28 05:29:50 ] Tara Read > intys = worthless ships [ 2006.04.28 05:29:54 ] Tara Read > farjun is just using you [ 2006.04.28 05:30:48 ] Tara Read > *yawn* [ 2006.04.28 05:31:36 ] Tara Read > zooooooom zoooooom [ 2006.04.28 05:31:39 ] Tara Read > lol [ 2006.04.28 05:31:41 ] Tara Read > <--- drunk [ 2006.04.28 05:31:47 ] Tara Read > <--- but wont ****up
oh, and then:
Quote: [ 2006.04.28 05:36:49 ] Tara Read > i just never been caught [ 2006.04.28 05:36:50 ] Tara Read > in months [ 2006.04.28 05:36:54 ] Tara Read > im tooooo confident [ 2006.04.28 05:37:01 ] Tara Read > my ishtar is worth 500mil [ 2006.04.28 05:37:03 ] Tara Read > come get it boys
As regards fittings, the only noticable difference between your own and my own was the fact that you had T2 Berserkers and a couple more small Nos. The fitting on that Ishtar, complete with the cost of the ship, your looking at 200, maybe 250m absolutely tops.
If you wish to flame and troll, in retrospect, having inspected what you lost and what I knew was obtained from the loot can, your setup sucked far more than my own
Lets face it Tara, in the grand scheme of things, you are a nobody. A worthless, flaming, smacktalking nobody.
And this concludes my post on these forums for the next 6 or so months Phoenus Professional Mercenary
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Armetheus
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Posted - 2006.05.15 23:25:00 -
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I think this thread has more than ran it's course, several times around the block, to the local swimming pool, and then back again.
*Clicketh*
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