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better mcbetterson
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.24 07:52:00 -
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Good evening guys and girls.
So i recently just found the eve bet website and it looked like a good idea, So i played a little bit with them and everything was going smoothly. Did not win 1 bet but that was my fault for picking bad teams
A few evenings ago i put a bet on and it had a wrong team in the bet that i did not actually want to bet on, i sent a message to the admins asking if they could get it rectified and they rectified it for me. No harm done on either side.
2 days ago i placed a bet and accidently left a team out, i sent them this mail via hotmail.
22/03/2014
" hey guys i just put this bet on could you void it for me i forgot to add a selection. it dosent start for another 45 mins but if it has started by the time you read this please leave the bet as it is cause i would still prefer the single selection to nothing :P"
i checked and made sure the selection was still on at kick off time and it was, which was fine, was my mistake. The bet lost which again is not an issue.
Well this evening i decided i wanted to place a bet on the rugby. I quickly put 1 billion isk on this guy and deposited the isk to the eve bet corporation as eve bet runs off an api system that runs every 30 mins and there was only 2 mins left to get the funds to my account.
I then proceed to try log into my eve bet account out of game but it was not letting me log in so i thought id check my mail to see if the password has been changed or anything.
I had this mail in my inbox
"Thanks for bringing this to our attention, your new account has been banned.
Have a nice day
Track your support ticket here - http://www.eve-bet.com/User/ViewTicket.aspx?id=192
EVE Bet Support"
I really dont understand what is going on, maybe i was betting too high amounts of money and they got scared? but comming from a website who claims "62,869,053,780,043 ISK bet so far on EVE Bet!" i seriously doubt that. I have eve mailed them back asking for an explination and why they ran off with my money but no reply as of yet.
The wierd thing is they say "thanks for bringing this to our attention your "NEW" account has been banned. new??? Im thinking they maybe had somebody else who used to screw them around with bets to try screw them out of money and think im the same guy i dont know. Either way at this point they have 1bn isk of my money and have no replyed to my mails.
I would not trust eve bet at this point. they have the potential to steal your isk and not give the service they are offering!!! Is there eve rules about this?? can somebody offer a service out of game paid with in game currency but just steal it and not provide the service??
any help appreciated |
Jad-bal-jah
Nanashi no Geemu
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Posted - 2014.03.24 08:06:00 -
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How bout you ask them instead of discrediting a service I've been using for ages and have not had a issue with http://i.imgur.com/c5P1Tlt.png?1 |
better mcbetterson
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.24 08:14:00 -
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i have asked them and recieved no reply. thats why im here now |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.24 08:15:00 -
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You should probably assume that any EVE-related betting or gambling website isn't trustworthy. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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MonkeyMagic Thiesant
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2014.03.24 08:16:00 -
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Perhaps waiting more than two days before screaming on the forums might be an idea?
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Muestereate
Minions LLC
199
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Posted - 2014.03.24 08:22:00 -
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Its gambling, Everything about it is a gamble. You lose. |
Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2732
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Posted - 2014.03.24 08:38:00 -
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better mcbetterson wrote:Hey guys, now that we finally got SOMER Blink in 'trouble' and satisfied our hurt feelings from gambling more than we could afford to away, let's kick up a fuss about someone else and manufacture a new scandal!
No. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Karen Avioras
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
317
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Posted - 2014.03.24 08:42:00 -
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You were betting that they were trustworthy and you lost? |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1390
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Posted - 2014.03.24 08:52:00 -
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Reading that OP maybe, maybe a good idea not to bet until you know what you're doing. :o
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Toshiro Ozuwara
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
391
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Posted - 2014.03.24 08:57:00 -
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Getting your ISK stolen sounds like a case for the cyberpolice. They thought they could get away.-áNot today, it's not the way that this kid plays. |
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Marcia en Welle
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2014.03.24 09:26:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Getting your ISK stolen sounds like a case for the cyberpolice. Consequences will never be the same. |
Jaun Pacht-Feng
University of Caille Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2014.03.24 09:28:00 -
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Hint
Goons tried and couldn't infiltrate SomerBlink. Most of that "scandal" was orchestrated by Goons when CCP was on a field trip. So, since they could not infiltrate and rip off SomerBlink for everything. They started their own service. EVE-bet is a Goon scamming site that the RMT flows like a river to Mittens pocket. All without the need for F1 mashing "elite" PVPers.
Enjoy your poison kids! |
EVE Bet Kryptyk
Eve-Bet
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Posted - 2014.03.24 09:32:00 -
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This will be our first and only post on the matter. Only because we do not wish our name to be publically tarnished despite preferring to keep these sort of matters private.
The OP neglects to mention that under a different account, he was actually a staff member for a brief period early on not long after we launched. He stole ISK from our corporation wallet and disappeared.
Under a new account, he made the mistake of contacting our support email innocently regarding a bet. This was the same email address used previously when he was a staff member and stole from us.
He will likely dispute this and act innocent in the thread. We have our proof and acted accordingly. We will not indulge in a public back and forth on this matter. The 1 billion ISK frozen on his account is less than the amount stolen.
In 18 months of operation we've banned less than 5 accounts total, so this is by no means a "EVE Bet steals people ISK" thing. 63 trillion ISK has passed through our hands and we are always fair to our customers.
Good day |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
419
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Posted - 2014.03.24 09:38:00 -
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Stop betting when drunk/high.
I mean you submitted several improperly filled bets in as many weeks, as well as tickets to correct for your own mistakes (and theirs).
Anyways I think this kind of out-of-game use of ISK is an abomination. I wouldnt use them, and if you get scammed doing so, thats your own problem.
Because its not directly under CCPs auspices or the EULA, feel free to go ahead and file a police report. Takes about an hour (in a moderately developed first world country) and the police and prosecutor can then decide whether it possibly constitutes a crime and whether to investigate and possibly prosecute. |
Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
228
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Posted - 2014.03.24 09:38:00 -
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Thanks OP.
I was considering trying it out to see what it was like, but if they're untrustworthy, I will not risk it.
Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |
Jaun Pacht-Feng
University of Caille Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2014.03.24 09:41:00 -
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EVE-bet will likely claim to be innocent while refusing to provide any evidence to support their claim.
63 trillion literally passed through their hands and into someones back pocket!
EVE-bet is just another front to RMT. All hail Goonswarm! |
better mcbetterson
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.03.24 09:50:00 -
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wow. You are completley out of your mind if you think i was a previous staff member... That explains why you stole my isk but you are completley wrong.
1 billion isk is not a back breaking amount of isk, but its the principle. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17349
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Posted - 2014.03.24 09:50:00 -
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Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:EVE-bet will likely claim to be innocent while refusing to provide any evidence to support their claim.
63 trillion literally passed through their hands and into someones back pocket!
EVE-bet is just another front to RMT. All hail Goonswarm! If you can prove that Eve-Bet is a front for RMT then report them to CCP.
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Jaun Pacht-Feng
University of Caille Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2014.03.24 09:55:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:EVE-bet will likely claim to be innocent while refusing to provide any evidence to support their claim.
63 trillion literally passed through their hands and into someones back pocket!
EVE-bet is just another front to RMT. All hail Goonswarm! If you can prove that Eve-Bet is a front for RMT then report them to CCP. All gambling sites is FOR PROFIT! If they didn't turn enough cash to support the site itself. It would have been dumped along time ago. And since the EULA doesn't account for this. Where is all the profit going? I don't see any large amounts of ISK being donated towards anything! |
Jack Morrison
Sinister Spinster Advent of Fate
132
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Posted - 2014.03.24 09:57:00 -
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Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:EVE-bet will likely claim to be innocent while refusing to provide any evidence to support their claim.
63 trillion literally passed through their hands and into someones back pocket!
EVE-bet is just another front to RMT. All hail Goonswarm!
Not a fan of goons either, but the lack of 'eve-bet is a scam' threads and a story that doesn't sound fake tells me you f*cked up and made a mistake with that email address. Now please go cry in a corner and try harder next time. |
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17349
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Posted - 2014.03.24 10:00:00 -
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Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:EVE-bet will likely claim to be innocent while refusing to provide any evidence to support their claim.
63 trillion literally passed through their hands and into someones back pocket!
EVE-bet is just another front to RMT. All hail Goonswarm! If you can prove that Eve-Bet is a front for RMT then report them to CCP. All gambling sites is FOR PROFIT! If they didn't turn enough cash to support the site itself. It would have been dumped along time ago. Correct. They can also pay their staff and for their hosting with ingame currency IIRC.
Quote:And since the EULA doesn't account for this. Where is all the profit going? I don't see any large amounts of ISK being donated towards anything! As long as the profit is in ISK or ingame assets then I don't see a problem. If that ISK is converted into a real currency such as the $,-ú or Gé¼, or real world assets, then and only then is it RMT.
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better mcbetterson
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.03.24 10:35:00 -
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i mean, i couldent care less if they rmt its stealing its customers isk im more worried about. |
Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
1044
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Posted - 2014.03.24 10:39:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:You should probably assume that any EVE-related betting or gambling website isn't trustworthy.
This.
You are using an unregulated service for gambling (which is a scam even when legitimate) on a game that is famous for scams and heists. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1757
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Posted - 2014.03.24 10:39:00 -
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If I can't win on the lottery, something tells me I won't do much better anywhere else... New player experience, more highsec PvE missions, casual play, balance, counters to AFK cloaking, expanding the NEX store, and Power Projection.
Azami Nevinyrall for CSM9! |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
421
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Posted - 2014.03.24 10:46:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:You should probably assume that any EVE-related betting or gambling website isn't trustworthy. This. You are using an unregulated service for gambling (which is a scam even when legitimate) on a game that is famous for scams and heists. you would think this was an easy one. If in doubt...do...excessively. |
Sibyyl
277
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Posted - 2014.03.24 11:08:00 -
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I suggest that next time you arm yourself with a jar of mayonnaise and use a legitimate ISK doubler.
/Fÿ¡ Now that you are *campers* you will have more *parties* and no more *sad* *lonely* *bubbles*. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1022
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Posted - 2014.03.24 11:08:00 -
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This thread has been moved to Crime & Punishment. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
513
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:06:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Stop betting when drunk/high.
I mean you submitted several improperly filled bets in as many weeks, as well as tickets to correct for your own mistakes (and theirs).
Anyways I think this kind of out-of-game use of ISK is an abomination. I wouldnt use them, and if you get scammed doing so, thats your own problem.
Because its not directly under CCPs auspices or the EULA, feel free to go ahead and file a police report. Takes about an hour (in a moderately developed first world country) and the police and prosecutor can then decide whether it possibly constitutes a crime and whether to investigate and possibly prosecute.
I would love to be sitting in the room when the police detectives get your report of stolen ISK. Hilarious. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Sala Cameron
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
170
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:24:00 -
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I've been gambling on eve-bet for quite a while now during the last Alliance Tournament, the NEO and football events and I've always received what was shown I would receive. A scam as such does seem very unlikely, considering the amount of money people have bet already and the good reputation the site has.
Personally I am looking forward to bet on the World Championships in Brazil and the next Alliance Tournament. @sala_cameron |
Xaerael Endiel
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
138
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:22:00 -
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Sounds like someone dropped their wallet on a bad bet and thought raging on the internet about it would get results.
Remember kids, alway bet responsibly. Here's a website that might help in future: http://www.gambleaware.co.uk/ |
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