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Goatman NotMyFault
NorCorp Security The Unthinkables
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Posted - 2014.04.03 23:04:00 -
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Hairpins Blueprint wrote:i think that after all plex is the one item that should not be speculated on the market ... idea is easy, BAN buy orders on plex, and restrict amout of plexs you can buy to 3 per account per 30 day's.
While ure at the idea, ill throw some lambs on the fire....
It could be CCP driving the prices up to get players to buy more plex to sell on the marked.... So send in a petition. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
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Posted - 2014.04.03 23:16:00 -
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Hairpins Blueprint wrote:it's not about " lower plex prices" it's about less market speculations.
Posting in a stealth "lower PLEX prices" thread even tho it's claimed to be not.
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Hairpins Blueprint
CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.04.03 23:28:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:Hairpins Blueprint wrote:it's not about " lower plex prices" it's about less market speculations.
Posting in a stealth "lower PLEX prices" thread even tho it's claimed to be not.
Shhhhhh |
paritybit
Repo.
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Posted - 2014.04.03 23:58:00 -
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When plex prices go up there is more incentive to buy a plex to sell on the market; therefore, more people are selling plex and the prices will go down as supply saturates the market. When plex prices go down, there is less incentive to purchase a plex to sell on the market. Plex just rides the natural supply and demand waves. When somebody spends real money the plex is magicked from thin air and put on the market. ISK changes hands and some leaves the system entirely through the NPC tax system. Everything is working as intended here. |
Psychoactive Stimulant
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Posted - 2014.04.04 00:12:00 -
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High prices is a healthy market. I don't think you understand how markets work.
Housing crash was BAD for economy. Plex crash is BAD for economy.
People who purchase plex for RL money and convert it to isk are happy, because, as you stated, everything else isn't rising as fast. So you get more isk purchasing power for your plex. Why are you crying?
This is a booming economy filled with rich idiots who pay CCP real money to buy expensive ships from me while I pay a TINY bit more for a plex.
If you kids are crying about expensive plex, you really should reconsider what you're doing with your game time. Or just quit and go play something more suited to your entertainment needs... like Hello Kitty Online.
I believe it was CCP who said it best: Harden the F*ck Up. |
Obunagawe
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Posted - 2014.04.04 01:14:00 -
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Psychoactive Stimulant wrote:High prices is a healthy market. I don't think you understand how markets work.
Housing crash was BAD for economy. Plex crash is BAD for economy.
People who purchase plex for RL money and convert it to isk are happy, because, as you stated, everything else isn't rising as fast. So you get more isk purchasing power for your plex. Why are you crying?
This is a booming economy filled with rich idiots who pay CCP real money to buy expensive ships from me while I pay a TINY bit more for a plex.
If you kids are crying about expensive plex, you really should reconsider what you're doing with your game time. Or just quit and go play something more suited to your entertainment needs... like Hello Kitty Online.
I believe it was CCP who said it best: Harden the F*ck Up.
Except total traded volume has decreased so it's not healthy at all, is it? |
Ivan Krividus
Born Crazy
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Posted - 2014.04.04 01:20:00 -
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Hairpins Blueprint wrote:Rowells wrote:bad idea is bad. Just because plexes are getting more expensive doesn't mean we need to control the prices. It's the natural flow and ebb.
Also means no more 50 plex noobship kills either can agree, would it be natural to pay 100$ for 1 L of water just because some one have money to take over total control? No. That is why a videogame exists where this is deliberately allowed to happen. |
Hairpins Blueprint
CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.04.04 12:03:00 -
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paritybit wrote:When plex prices go up there is more incentive to buy a plex to sell on the market; therefore, more people are selling plex and the prices will go down as supply saturates the market. When plex prices go down, there is less incentive to purchase a plex to sell on the market. Plex just rides the natural supply and demand waves. When somebody spends real money the plex is magicked from thin air and put on the market. ISK changes hands and some leaves the system entirely through the NPC tax system. Everything is working as intended here.
not relly, is single person dry up the market and than just sell 1/10 of the stock for 20%+ or more ... |
Hairpins Blueprint
CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.04.04 12:06:00 -
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Ivan Krividus wrote:Hairpins Blueprint wrote:Rowells wrote:bad idea is bad. Just because plexes are getting more expensive doesn't mean we need to control the prices. It's the natural flow and ebb.
Also means no more 50 plex noobship kills either can agree, would it be natural to pay 100$ for 1 L of water just because some one have money to take over total control? No. That is why a videogame exists where this is deliberately allowed to happen.
ofc, but plex is not an ordinary item ... it's out of game. |
paritybit
Repo.
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Posted - 2014.04.04 16:04:00 -
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Hairpins Blueprint wrote:not relly, is single person dry up the market and than just sell 1/10 of the stock for 20%+ or more ...
Eventually he's going to have to sell them all back, use them all or he's lost money on the deal. Either way, supply and demand still has a hold on the system.
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Iorga Eeta
Hekatonkheires Industries
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Posted - 2014.04.04 16:18:00 -
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Lidia Caderu wrote:If CCP will not do something, i'll simply stop playing.
Or you could by a 60-day time code block through your favorite Eve website, fly to Jita, convert your time codes to Plex, sell the Plex for 1.4 billion isk and invest that isk into something that'll improve your gameplay and current isk per hour ratio. At the same time, you'll be supporting a site or Eve blogger you enjoy.
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Hairpins Blueprint
CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.04.05 12:44:00 -
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i think plex was added to market so it would be much easier ad faster to trade then on forums, so way not to keep the trade of this item on market but more like forum like ...
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Hairpins Blueprint
CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.04.11 09:43:00 -
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any one who thinks that plex price will get lower is delusional.
as long it's posible to manipulate the price people will do it ... way not to leave the item for it's natural flow ...
insted of leaving it to people to have fun with it, puling the proce to xxx%!
we can see it right now, 750m+ !? lol it use to be much more stable when it was on forums. right afer it was on eve market the price was bulting up, much faster.
and now it's racnig to 1b ^^
make people wona put the plex on the market to sell it or use it, insted to stack pile it to make money, bacause you can be sure the price will keep building up! |
Hairpins Blueprint
CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.04.11 10:04:00 -
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if nothing will be done it will end like crisis in real world, when greede bankers were steling (and they still do) messed up iceland and the rest of the world.
same will be here, part of the player base will be lost!
so there will be no one to by the plex, only the people that manipulate the price!!! |
Hairpins Blueprint
CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans
38
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Posted - 2014.04.20 20:11:00 -
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yea .. so for real, some one just epty up the market and set the price at 850 .... it was much better when it was on the forums ... |
Agondray
Dark Forge Enterprise Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2014.04.20 20:56:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:What possible purpose could this serve? So we can prove for the millionth time in human history that price controls lead to disaster. there is price controlling going on already. Had a guy in my incursion fleet sell plex on the market and had multiple convos from multiple people wanting him to buy plex every month for them buy 10% less than market so they can move and mark up the prices.
also just look at ship prices with the expansion in summer "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mine" -Dr. Smith |
sci0gon
Kaira Innovations Superior Eve Engineering
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Posted - 2014.04.20 21:31:00 -
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Skydott wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation
just a matter of time it goes above billion Humble yourself
BEST way stop speculation remove plex from game and close this donate shop. Reduce subscribe payment and remove plex . Rise number of playing ppl.
removal of plex = less isboxers which would be a win in my eyes considering mmorpg's are supposed to be games you play with others not for those who want to play with themselves. It would also mean less players playing the game since theres a large portion of the player base from what I have seen who cringe at the thought of paying with real cash to play or begging their parents to pay for them.
lower sub costs would be nice and help a few more to come and play however a certain point comes with that and that is the players mentality and if they believe they are getting enjoyment out of the game to warrant continuing to pay the sub fee.
Hairpins Blueprint wrote:there is nothing wrong with the plex it self, it's very cool. if it would be removed from the game i guess i and a loot of other people would stop playing the game.
and the RMT market would come back in full force.
I have no idea why you believe that however you'd be wrong RMT mostly occurs in games that are f2p which also offer the pay2win style of play that a lot of players cry about which is why that market is there and RMT sellers take advantage of people like that cos they want to be just as special. This game is over 10yrs old now and the only way RMT ever came into this game was due to CCP's ability to throw out free trials however with the removal of that CCP would be cutting off their own hands so that would never happen. This game has more than enough easy ways to make isk in the game even for beginners.
with regards to the ops request no ty all items should be able to be bought or sold exactly as they are currently. |
Yolo
Intergalactic Combined Technologies
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Posted - 2014.04.20 22:36:00 -
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Do some research before you talk about PLEX prices. Only two weeks ago the prices peaked at around 750m Isk.
The price is now around 720m Isk.
You can expect the prices to drop for some time, as the new ship painting blueprints are no longer new. Also people was able to buy Fan Fest packages with PLEX, this had an impact on the supply/demand as rich EVE players converted their Isk into a party on top of the world.
I'd say prices will go down around 650 before if lands and normal inflation takes a hold of it again. - since 2003, bitches |
epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
718
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Posted - 2014.04.20 22:59:00 -
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Quite a few players both pay a monthly fee (one off) and every couple of months buy a plex for that month, if it becomes every 3 or even every 4 they have to wait for a free month, they will give up and CCP loses the money they would pay on the paying months.
The rise of plex, will hurt the bottom line, but it is not through rage quitting or big decisions, it is more where people just can't be arsed.
there is no such thing as a free market (as exists in the innocents imagination) every government (other than failed states) implements protection against monopolies and cartels, in the currency markets, when speculators try to drive a currency wildly up, get Massively burnt when the central bank floods the market to bring it back. Only when the speculators hold more funds than the central bank (as in developing countries) can this get wildly out of balance.
CCP employ a professional economics expert. you would need to be a swivel eyed loony to believe that this is a bubble that will never burst.
And when it happens and the price drops to around 400 a cry Of HTFU will resound to the wail of speculator tears.
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
482
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Posted - 2014.04.20 22:59:00 -
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Agondray wrote:Sentamon wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:What possible purpose could this serve? So we can prove for the millionth time in human history that price controls lead to disaster. there is price controlling going on already. Had a guy in my incursion fleet sell plex on the market and had multiple convos from multiple people wanting him to buy plex every month for them buy 10% less than market so they can move and mark up the prices. also just look at ship prices with the expansion in summer that's not price control. Price control is when someone (CCP) steps in and manipulates price with methods other people don't have.
And your confusing summer ship changes with speculation. That is not price control. It's perceived supply and demand. |
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Psychoactive Stimulant
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Posted - 2014.04.21 01:56:00 -
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Maybe the prices are going up cause people are making those fancy new skinned ships...
Maybe the prices are going up cause people can train their alts on the same account...
Maybe the idea of supply and demand are actually working as intended.
Take off your tin foil hat. There are no speculators. |
Hairpins Blueprint
CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans
38
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Posted - 2014.04.24 09:49:00 -
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Yolo wrote:Do some research before you talk about PLEX prices. Only two weeks ago the prices peaked at around 750m Isk.
The price is now around 720m Isk.
You can expect the prices to drop for some time, as the new ship painting blueprints are no longer new. Also people was able to buy Fan Fest packages with PLEX, this had an impact on the supply/demand as rich EVE players converted their Isk into a party on top of the world.
I'd say prices will go down around 650 before if lands and normal inflation takes a hold of it again.
ye ye ... look the price over the year, there allways was some drop, and right after price startd climbing up 2x the fall |
Hairpins Blueprint
CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans
38
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Posted - 2014.04.24 09:53:00 -
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Psychoactive Stimulant wrote:Maybe the prices are going up cause people are making those fancy new skinned ships... Maybe the prices are going up cause people can train their alts on the same account... Maybe the idea of supply and demand are actually working as intended. Take off your tin foil hat. There are no speculators.
the price was roling up very fast way before those changes got into the game ... |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
137
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Posted - 2014.04.24 10:08:00 -
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Hairpins Blueprint wrote:would it be natural to pay 100$ for 1 L of water just because some one have money to take over total control? In a game, yes.
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1341
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Posted - 2014.04.24 10:19:00 -
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Hairpins Blueprint wrote:Rowells wrote:bad idea is bad. Just because plexes are getting more expensive doesn't mean we need to control the prices. It's the natural flow and ebb.
Also means no more 50 plex noobship kills either can agree, would it be natural to pay 100$ for 1 L of water just because some one have money to take over total control?
Youa re delusional. No one not even that rich russian excentric dude can control the plex market by sheer "havign money" Why because plex supply is infinite!
CCP will not deny selling you a plex just because other guy just bought 100. HTat means there can only be shortage of plex by excessive demand compared to supply, not by someone cornering the market. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Ren Coursa
Rapid Withdrawal
8
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Posted - 2014.04.24 10:31:00 -
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Hairpins Blueprint wrote:Rowells wrote:bad idea is bad. Just because plexes are getting more expensive doesn't mean we need to control the prices. It's the natural flow and ebb.
Also means no more 50 plex noobship kills either can agree, would it be natural to pay 100$ for 1 L of water just because some one have money to take over total control?
Not to bum people out but in a hundred years time, yes it's probably going to be very natural at this pace. At least in the middle east and Africa.
But as to the point of the thread i don't think plex should be treated differently. Everything comes into the game through ccp either from their shop or from a magically respawning Asteroid.
Time is money. Either you spend an hour mining the asteroid or you spend an hour at your job and buy a plex. Same result. |
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