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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.25 15:27:00 -
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Rejoice as CCP Recurve brings interesting statistics from the EVE market!
Do you remember the huge battle of B-R5RB in January 2014 with 75 Titans, 370 Dreadnaughts and other ships getting destroyed? CCP Recurve investigates in his latest dev blog if this battle had any impact on the EVE market and if so, how the market reacted.
Additionally the Price Indices for February 2014 are now available and published.
Read all about the mineral market and price indices in CCP Recurve's latest blog Mineral Trade in the Wake of the Battle of B-R5RB (Price Indices GÇô February 2014) CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager |
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Toadfoxx BlacKen
New Explorers
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Posted - 2014.03.25 15:44:00 -
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First I guess |
Avvalina
DVA Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.03.25 15:45:00 -
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So all that mayhem was absorbed in a matter of days to weeks.
Outstanding. |
Ms Michigan
Aviation Professionals for EVE The Diogenes Club
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Posted - 2014.03.25 16:01:00 -
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Hourly and daily reaction time is what surprised me. Apparently if you are going to "time the market" on short term gains in EVE, you better keep a beat on what is going on hourly.
/me waits for GS Economic Cabala to take advantage of said reaction next time by basically hedging their losses and buying up minerals prior, then selling as the price spikes and ships die.
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Billy Hix
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
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Posted - 2014.03.25 16:03:00 -
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Avvalina wrote:So all that mayhem was absorbed in a matter of days to weeks.
There are HUGE amounts of 'stuff' in storage throughout New Eden that people can't be bothered sorting out and shipping, however when the price shoots up they suddenly put in the effort for the extra profit.
As this was a one off event the minerals pulled out of storage quickly managed to balance the market.
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Rashnu Gorbani
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.25 16:05:00 -
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Interesting topic, I'd like regular and more detailed analysis of market :) dedicated market and industry devblog perhaps? :) |
Lachra
Union of Labor
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Posted - 2014.03.25 16:51:00 -
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If you need to ask the question as to whether 75 titans and hundreds of other capital ships being destroyed affected the market, then clearly this is an indication as to how bloated and over-saturated New Eden has become, mineral wealth being just one factor. |
GavinGoodrich
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2014.03.25 17:29:00 -
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I can't NOT read this kind of stuff without some good coffee and a copy of The "cal. navy 4-4 journal" in front of me, hearing how something changing less than 1% still makes a difference of billions of isk and typically can't compute in my thick skull. Haaaaaalp my head's on fire |
Meytal
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.25 17:52:00 -
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So, any progress in suppressing the out-of-control ISK faucets that cause PLEX prices to be continually out of whack compared to the rest of the market? |
Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland Test Alliance Please Ignore
602
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:42:00 -
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Its very interesting to see the effects of large-scale changes to game mechanics and significant nulsec activities reflected in the various price indices. The Alchemy and moon goo rebalance efforts are clear to see, as well as the removal of meta 0 drops from the loot tables, the removal of Drone Alloys, and the introduction of PI.
What I got of this most recent economic DEVBLOG is that there is a lot of liquid isk floating around right now.
Free Ripley Weaver! |
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Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:59:00 -
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Ms Michigan wrote:Hourly and daily reaction time is what surprised me. Apparently if you are going to "time the market" on short term gains in EVE, you better keep a beat on what is going on hourly.
/me waits for GS Economic Cabala to take advantage of said reaction next time by basically hedging their losses and buying up minerals prior, then selling as the price spikes and ships die.
What do you mean, "next time"? Market speculation around patches and large events isn't new by any stretch. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
corporate commander
Stargate Chivalry
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:14:00 -
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Lachra wrote:Clearly this is an indication as to how bloated and over-saturated New Eden has become both in terms of null-sec accumulation of capital ships & high-sec mineral stocks.
yet the ship prices are not showing that bloating. ! usually when resources are more abundant the prices of items come down. doesnt seem to be the case any more. people still want old figures for their new stock.. shame really. was kinda hoping it had an impact. i guess it wasnt enough people in the battle. so yea eve is definately bloated. |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:19:00 -
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Now if only CCP put as much effort into curbing rampant cyber-bulling in EVE as in this little chart, would be nice.
But +1 for doing something. Keep it up. |
Ms Michigan
Aviation Professionals for EVE The Diogenes Club
33
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:21:00 -
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Zappity wrote:Ms Michigan wrote:Hourly and daily reaction time is what surprised me. Apparently if you are going to "time the market" on short term gains in EVE, you better keep a beat on what is going on hourly.
/me waits for GS Economic Cabala to take advantage of said reaction next time by basically hedging their losses and buying up minerals prior, then selling as the price spikes and ships die.
What do you mean, "next time"? Market speculation around patches and large events isn't new by any stretch.
I agree speculation is not new. But from the 5 years I have been playing EVE I have never seen graphs from CCP to validate the actual movement of price/volume of said minerals during large battles. Assuming I am reading the graph **** correctly. Follow? |
iskflakes
901
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Posted - 2014.03.25 22:04:00 -
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B-R was a drop in the ocean, average prices recovered after just two days.
The rate of titan building after B-R increased by maybe 10-15 titans per month, so any price change in minerals would be spread over that time. The price spike only occurred because speculators thought minerals would increase in value long term, but that doesn't seem to have been the case. - |
Grumpy Poster
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.25 22:19:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Now if only CCP put as much effort into curbing rampant cyber-bulling in EVE as in this little chart, would be nice.
WTF is "cyber bulling"?
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Tsobai Hashimoto
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
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Posted - 2014.03.25 22:59:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Now if only CCP put as much effort into curbing rampant cyber-bulling in EVE as in this little chart, would be nice.
But +1 for doing something. Keep it up.
Why dont you bully them back? You have the name Scary in your Alliance title but obviously cant back it up....afraid of a few bumpers? jeez
FYI, I dont ever get bumped in low sec.... I wonder why..... |
Double Oh Mosquito
State Protectorate Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.03.25 23:00:00 -
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Here is an idea... Get rid of PLEX completely; Go to work and pay for your subscription like all hard working individuals? Just a thought...
But then again if you divide quantum physics by 2 and add a nanobit of mechanical engineering you may or may not come up with the theory of relativity version 2.8675309!
I personally think hydro-mechanical engineering is where it's at, and figured out that 1 unit of rocket science and a smidge of cayenne pepper could redefine black holes by injecting synth boosters into the singularity and tele-porting midgets to the 18 corners of the galaxy.... yes folks there are 18 corners...
Don't believe me? Then take this study into consideration; A scientist from WTF University conducted an experiment on people who waste their lives whining about useless dung on the internet and concluded that 1 out of 1 were in fact dung themselves and showed no signs of intelligence.
There you have it folks... Straight from the desk of go get a life, EVE is a game, and you CAN divide by Zero!!!
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EI Digin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.03.25 23:18:00 -
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We were being serious when we said "those titans have already been replaced". |
Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:04:00 -
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EI Digin wrote:We were being serious when we said "those titans have already been replaced". Don't you need to replace the replacements? Or aren't you ever going to lose the new ones? Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
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Knug LiDi
Quafe Commandos The Obsidian Front
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:53:00 -
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Meytal wrote:So, any progress in suppressing the out-of-control ISK faucets that cause PLEX prices to be continually out of whack compared to the rest of the market? What makes you so sure is it ISK faucets that are the cause? I suspect that it is the reduction in supply of PLEX that is affecting its price.
If only we could fall into a woman's arms
without falling into her hands |
Kevin Emoto
A Good Man Goes to War
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Posted - 2014.03.26 01:41:00 -
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This doesn't speak to the strength of the eve market, or so-called 'out-of-control isk faucets'.
This simply speaks to the ruthless effectiveness of macro miners.
CCP, enough rubbing your rhubarb in the flicker of the international gaming press, what are you doing about the macro mining problem in eve? (Not to mention macro ratting, FW plex bots....and their ilk) |
TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
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Posted - 2014.03.26 03:11:00 -
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Billy Hix wrote:Avvalina wrote:So all that mayhem was absorbed in a matter of days to weeks. There are HUGE amounts of 'stuff' in storage throughout New Eden that people can't be bothered sorting out and shipping, however when the price shoots up they suddenly put in the effort for the extra profit. As this was a one off event the minerals pulled out of storage quickly managed to balance the market.
If that's true, realize how much still is in storage all over, or how quick the general consensus reacts to prizes, to get such a rapid stabilization.
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Frightened Kitten
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.03.26 04:58:00 -
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TheSmokingHertog wrote:If that's true, realize how much still is in storage all over, or how quick the general consensus reacts to prizes, to get such a rapid stabilization.
general consensus = collective consciousness..?
(can a consensus, being a state, be understood to 'react' to something or only be affected by it?)
Just curious if there are any English scholars up in this &$%*@, because I'm curious. |
Oxide Ammar
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:17:00 -
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I bet you all that reprocessing nerf wasn't on radar at all till BR fight occurred and how they found the market absorbed this fight in days, we either need like BR battles every week to really affect the market or the reprocess changes. Apparently CCP choose the latter.
Looking forward to see reports like this after battles big enough like BR after the reprocessing changes become online. |
Odoya
Aeon Abraxas Abraxas Industrial
0
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:58:00 -
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Are some of these terms defined elsewhere? e.g., primary / secondary producers? great info! |
Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
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Posted - 2014.03.26 08:27:00 -
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So what the graphs show is that the industrial side of large alliances work like a well oiled machine |
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CCP Recurve
C C P C C P Alliance
0
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Posted - 2014.03.26 10:57:00 -
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Odoya wrote:Are some of these terms defined elsewhere? e.g., primary / secondary producers? great info!
There are brief descriptions of what goes in which index on this page. |
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Jadec Ornulf
Es and Whizz Hedonistic Imperative
0
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:21:00 -
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Keep in Mind that this was also patch day and people were building their Nestors |
Superform
Blackstar Privateers Disavowed.
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:51:00 -
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your doing it wrong if you think a capital fight no matter how large will effect mineral prices on its own,
production of capitals wasn't at a standstill before this fight - capital production is always full speed ahead..
most of this price increase was speculators thinking mineral prices would rise.
I bet if you looked into it 80% of minerals would be used in sub cap production and since there is a limit on how many sub caps normally fight at a time there will never be a sub cap fight large enough to create a blip in mineral prices |
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