Pages: [1] :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Raiiden
Draco Ouroboros Ideal Society
0
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 14:09:00 -
[1] - Quote
Well its been years since I last posted, (probably when they got rid of CAOD and made the forums absolutely useless) but this survey business is completely useless.
CCP, don't you know that survey's are useless? or are you using them for their real value, to guide our answers in such a way, that when it comes time to go micro-transaction, and make everything high-sec, and get rid of all PVP except in cloistered, NEO style areas of space, you can say, "well hell, you guys took the surveys, this is what you wanted!"
F!@# that.
signed, Long time fan of EVE http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/raiidenplsignature.png/ |
Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
296
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 14:14:00 -
[2] - Quote
I did fill the Survey and i did not answer a single Question like you wrote here.
I was for extend sandbox with Tools to build more player driven features and make PvP more valuable and i am a super duper Carebear myself. |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
337
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 14:19:00 -
[3] - Quote
I'm not sure where CCP is at all about to take PVP away? Judging by the latest changes and expansions, they seem to be way to keen to make PVP ever easier and push ever more people forcefully into PVP. |
Batelle
Tymast Industries 150th
2471
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 14:21:00 -
[4] - Quote
i have no idea what the OP is talking about and the first two replies did nothing to clarify. HALP! "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Raiiden
Draco Ouroboros Ideal Society
0
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 14:22:00 -
[5] - Quote
OP is saying that the survey's are just a clever way to push the majority carebear agenda, in a seemingly fair and unbiased way.
EDIT: AND ALSO, to introduce microtransactions like they said they wouldnt. http://i.imgur.com/ITNXig6.png |
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
109
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 14:30:00 -
[6] - Quote
where are these surveys? For posting an idea into F&I: come up with idea, try and think how people could abuse this, try to fix your idea - loop the process until you can't see how it could be abused, then post to the forums to let us figure out how to abuse it..... If your idea can be abused, it WILL be. |
Raiiden
Draco Ouroboros Ideal Society
0
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 14:33:00 -
[7] - Quote
Rivr Luzade wrote:I'm not sure where CCP is at all about to take PVP away? Judging by the latest changes and expansions, they seem to be way to keen to make PVP ever easier and push ever more people forcefully into PVP.
Exactly, then its not PVP, then its WoW battlegrounds, or an area of space, which is pretty much a "wow battlegrounds".
I do like that they boosted lowsec, but they also made it easier to gain sec status, everything keeps getting easier and easier, and less fun. Its becoming drastically less sandbox, and more and more like every other hand-holding MMO.
Also, it seems that inflation has gone up, and I'm sure this is in no small part due to all these new ways to make large amounts of ISK incredibly easily (and all the new players coming into the game, using them), like incursions for example.
What I'm saying is.... last time I came to this place the drinks weren't watered down. http://i.imgur.com/ITNXig6.png |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
337
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 14:39:00 -
[8] - Quote
Granted, yep, they want to force everyone into that field, regardless if they can do reasonable things there or are just more cattle. But I guess that quantity is a lot more important than quality these days. |
Raiiden
Draco Ouroboros Ideal Society
0
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 14:42:00 -
[9] - Quote
Quote:xxxxxxx > Micro-charging is never a good thing xxxxxxxxx > and the survey is more to see what people will tolerate xxxxxxxx > Seems like a dangerous road they are going down Raiiden > ^^ thats what im saying Raiiden > its testing the waters, and it can also be used later to justify xxxxxxxx > exactly xxxxxxxx > Over the years I kept saying "Maybe this will break the game" xxxxxxxx > But this may actually do it Raiiden > ccp already have the end goal in mind Raiiden > its to get us competing with our buddies to get the shiniest x,y,z each week, and to pay real money for it Raiiden > because they feel they have the best MMO and community out there and are superior to all other developers, AND YET! they have been left behind and the profit train is leaving station because they didnt jump on that microtransaction wagon Raiiden > so, they've concocted a diabolical plan to incrementally introduce micro transactions Raiiden > and for us to consent to it
http://i.imgur.com/ITNXig6.png |
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
109
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 14:45:00 -
[10] - Quote
if this is the one about ship skins - I made it very clear that it should not be something that needs aurum or plex - only isk and in-game mats For posting an idea into F&I: come up with idea, try and think how people could abuse this, try to fix your idea - loop the process until you can't see how it could be abused, then post to the forums to let us figure out how to abuse it..... If your idea can be abused, it WILL be. |
|
Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
297
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 14:52:00 -
[11] - Quote
On the other Hand everyone has to be honest, the Jita Riot was completly unecessery, they introduce Parts of WiS which is actualy still a thing here and introduce gimmicky clothes for AUR which also is still a thing if you take a look to this Forum.
Anyway, Gold Ammo was suggested in an intern Memo, BUT Never actual introduced.
Now WiS is dead and CCP did improve the Space Gameplay further, but need to watering down to increase Subscriptions.
I dunno if Micro-transaction beyond Clothes and Paints will be ever a thing, but tbh i can see why they have to make Eve more and more easy. |
Blodhgarm Dethahal
Transcendent Sedition Dustm3n
94
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 14:59:00 -
[12] - Quote
I have no issues with micro transactions as long as they relate to purely cosmetic things (ship paint as an example).
Any micro transaction that gives a player a unique gameplay advantage I am firmly against. -Bl+¦d |
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
337
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 15:07:00 -
[13] - Quote
Blodhgarm Dethahal wrote:I have no issues with micro transactions as long as they relate to purely cosmetic things (ship paint as an example).
Any micro transaction that gives a player a unique gameplay advantage I am firmly against.
And you really believe that it stays with vanity items?
Lephia DeGrande wrote: Now WiS is dead and CCP did improve the Space Gameplay further, but need to watering down to increase Subscriptions.
I dunno if Micro-transaction beyond Clothes and Paints will be ever a thing, but tbh i can see why they have to make Eve more and more easy.
I don't see why watering down is needed. Yes, player base is stagnant, but that is just because no one is up for the challenges of EVE. Now the challenges of EVE are reduced and more people lured in only to find out that they are still not up for the most important challenges: the other players. |
Raiiden
0
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 15:08:00 -
[14] - Quote
Yes, you can see my "AURrible" (lol) threads.
The eye and the robe are the only thing I ever bought with AUR, all 5 of my accounts have all the AUR they've ever been given by CCP.
Now back to the real discussion, :P The important part to examine about this, is that "watering down" and micro-transactions go hand in hand.
CCP need to introduce a wider audience who is used to a watered down game, to both increase subscriptions in the short term, and increase support for microtransactions in the future. (by bringing in alot of players who may be used to this type of model from other games)
Micro-transactions will definitely "be a thing" beyond paints and monocles. I suspect the reason they introduced monocles and clothes before ship paint is because:
A) They know most people would prefer ship paint or models and this is a way to influence us by way of contrasting. "well if I spent 9000 AUR on a monocle thats useless... whats 40 000 AUR for an AWESOME ship that does stuff?"
B) They let some artsy person from the art department relive childhood fantasies of fashion design.
C) They didnt have the flexibility in the code to do ship models/paints in a timely/cost effective way yet.
Its probably a mixture of the 3, but it all boils down to the same thing. A very calculated, incremental, change over to a Micro-Transaction model, or at least the inclusion of it. (just as bad) http://i.imgur.com/ITNXig6.png |
Blodhgarm Dethahal
Transcendent Sedition Dustm3n
94
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 15:17:00 -
[15] - Quote
Rivr Luzade wrote:Blodhgarm Dethahal wrote:I have no issues with micro transactions as long as they relate to purely cosmetic things (ship paint as an example).
Any micro transaction that gives a player a unique gameplay advantage I am firmly against. And you really believe that it stays with vanity items?
I have a little faith in CCP in this case. Besides... if they DO ever do things like "Gold Ammo" I am sure alot of people would be up in arms about it. And if they still keep it... I just unsub... simple... -Bl+¦d |
Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
297
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 15:27:00 -
[16] - Quote
Rivr Luzade wrote:Blodhgarm Dethahal wrote:I have no issues with micro transactions as long as they relate to purely cosmetic things (ship paint as an example).
Any micro transaction that gives a player a unique gameplay advantage I am firmly against. And you really believe that it stays with vanity items?
Probably not, but if CCP is that stupid, they deserve it... |
Raiiden
0
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 15:27:00 -
[17] - Quote
Quote:I have a little faith in CCP in this case. Besides... if they DO ever do things like "Gold Ammo" I am sure alot of people would be up in arms about it. And if they still keep it... I just unsub... simple...
thats the whole point of it being incremental, because they tried to do it before, or we got wind of it, and alot of us quit.
Now, its going to be very covert, small, baby steps, that you dont notice, until BOOM, you're playing world of t4nks in eve. http://i.imgur.com/ITNXig6.png |
Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
297
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 15:31:00 -
[18] - Quote
Raiiden wrote:Quote:I have a little faith in CCP in this case. Besides... if they DO ever do things like "Gold Ammo" I am sure alot of people would be up in arms about it. And if they still keep it... I just unsub... simple... thats the whole point of it being incremental, because they tried to do it before, or we got wind of it, and alot of us quit.
Again, this isnt true, they suggsest it in an intern memo not more not less. |
Raiiden
0
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 15:41:00 -
[19] - Quote
do you work for CCP?
I don't need a supposed internal memo to see with my own eyes, and think with my own brain, about what is happening.
How much isk are you willing to bet that more micro-transaction material won't be introduced? http://i.imgur.com/ITNXig6.png |
Reiisha
Evolution
526
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 16:30:00 -
[20] - Quote
Rivr Luzade wrote:Blodhgarm Dethahal wrote:I have no issues with micro transactions as long as they relate to purely cosmetic things (ship paint as an example).
Any micro transaction that gives a player a unique gameplay advantage I am firmly against. And you really believe that it stays with vanity items?
The day CCP introduces non-vanity items which interfere with an existing market segment is the day EVE dies, and they know it just as well as we do since the economy is the very basis of the game. Offering functional ships/weapons/ammo or any other such item will be extremely detrimental to the game, even if they do it like Dust (where the only advantage to boutgh items is that they need less skills).
Plex, clothes and ship skins are already at the very edge of what's permissable and i'm fairly sure they know that aswell.
Raiiden wrote:Quote:I have a little faith in CCP in this case. Besides... if they DO ever do things like "Gold Ammo" I am sure alot of people would be up in arms about it. And if they still keep it... I just unsub... simple... thats the whole point of it being incremental, because they tried to do it before, or we got wind of it, and alot of us quit. Now, its going to be very covert, small, baby steps, that you dont notice, until BOOM, you're playing world of t4nks in eve.
In a game where even an internal memo lead to such large riots and 120 layoffs for its developer, if such microtransactions aren't noticed people would really be sleeping.
There's hundreds of people eyeing the NEX store with every single patch and they will not stop at a frown and fistshake when they find something they don't like. We will know when something is up and so will CCP.
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all... |
|
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
362
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 16:30:00 -
[21] - Quote
/tinfoil hat |
Raiiden
Draco Ouroboros
0
|
Posted - 2014.03.27 17:25:00 -
[22] - Quote
Rowells wrote:/tinfoil hat
Good Sir.
To suggest that I would rock anything other than a 3-piece Tinfoil suit WITH Tinfoil Tophat and monocle would be absolutely ludicrous! http://i.imgur.com/ITNXig6.png |
Dori Tos
Galactic Innovations
16
|
Posted - 2014.03.28 20:55:00 -
[23] - Quote
All my answers in this survey were about creating more incentive for industrialist to play in lawless space instead of high sec.
As for micro transaction I really don't see what's the problem...You want to spend money? Go ahead.You don't want to spend money? Don't,nobody is forcing you.It's not like they are going to make EVE pay to win...Oh wait,isn't it already pay to win??? Cause i've seen a popular streamer on twitch TV play on a 120M SP character (or something close to that) he bought on his first week of playing EVE...But no that's not pay win...Obviously paying for ship paint jobs is much worse. I'm delicious. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1203
|
Posted - 2014.03.28 20:59:00 -
[24] - Quote
Raiiden wrote:OP is saying that the survey's are just a clever way to push the majority carebear agenda, in a seemingly fair and unbiased way.
EDIT: AND ALSO, to introduce microtransactions like they said they wouldnt.
You see what you see, I always thought that there was a null sec agenda. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
|
|
|
Pages: [1] :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |