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Graelyn
Decapsulation Services Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:58:00 -
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...and we were promised that, when the time was right and the tech was tested and ready, that we would get our image signatures back.
Image signatures used to be one of the most colorful and cool parts of the forums, with many capsuleers utilizing a great deal of creativity to express their own aspects of EVE. Heck, there was a healthy market for the services of good image-makers to provide sigs worthy of the boards.
We've waited. A long time. Very patiently.
Do give it some thought, won't you? + Cardinal Graelyn + Owner/Operator, "The Summit" Amarr Loyalist of the Year --áYC113 |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
11510
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:58:00 -
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CCP's lack of control of what's in the signature is the main reason I believe.
/c
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Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2014.03.28 11:15:00 -
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plz no :(
I mean generally yeah, but there are always people who abuse common decency. Unfortunately they are the reason "we can't have nice things". -----For an elaboration on how Erotica1's conduct in his Bonus Room potentially constitutes torture----- https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4400219#post4400219 |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2809
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Posted - 2014.03.28 11:18:00 -
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I'm firmly against image sigs, and if they do get set up, please have an option to never have to see them. I can't stand having posts split up by random images, 99% of which are dumb as ****. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
104
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Posted - 2014.03.28 11:21:00 -
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Forums with image sigs are more like a page of adverts than a forum. I would turn them off. If i couldn't well i would probably use the forums less. |
SpaceSaft
Sub Par. Beacon Light Alliance
67
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Posted - 2014.03.28 11:22:00 -
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I bet that's not allowed because it could disrupt the "artistic vision".
Or it would give large organized alliances a disadvantage because they can have image sigs on their own forums and then suddenly everyone would have it. I don't even know anymore what to think about CCP... |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
2970
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Posted - 2014.03.28 11:23:00 -
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The other issue is https.
If you're embedding anything into the page, it should be https. how many people would try http and cause problems?
I'm really not missing random pointless images here. linking out to them works. Steve Ronuken for CSM 9! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4236322 http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Snakebyte Jack
Grand Theft Astr0
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Posted - 2014.03.28 11:23:00 -
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Having read some of the posts above i have a compromise.
Why not allow us to have forum sigs back?
Seriously inapropriate content can be met with an IP ban.
Give the viewer the option to disable images or enable them at his own discresion.
This way those who want to see forum sigs can do so and those who would wish not to can just turn them off.
If were concerned about the content of forum sigs being somehow inappropriate for younger players then have them disabled automatically for accounts which are owned by minors.
Problem solved everyones happy. Making everyone happy and safe is the best way to do business.
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ACE McFACE
The Scope Gallente Federation
1785
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Posted - 2014.03.28 11:31:00 -
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I don't want to load up 100000 images of Tengus and Hurricanes with the persons killboard stats in horrible white writing over the top of the image every time I open a thread. You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument! |
Sibyyl
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Posted - 2014.03.28 12:37:00 -
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OP, give ASCII art a try! Now that you are *campers* you will have more *parties* and no more *sad* *lonely* *bubbles*. |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:17:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:The other issue is https.
If you're embedding anything into the page, it should be https. how many people would try http and cause problems?
I'm really not missing random pointless images here. linking out to them works. ^^ This.
Mixed content will (or should) make any sane browser throw a fit. To make it work, CCP would have to offer signature hosting, with all that entails in terms of ownerships and vetting.
They would also have to start introducing some actual forum settings, and the web team still seems to be as setting-phobic as ever. Personally, I'd prefer to see proper settings return far more than images GÇö things like being able to turn off the outbound link warning; turn off tool tips; turn off backgrounds and similar pointless bling GÇö to say nothing about a few more (sensible) formatting options like proper lists, tables, fixed-width and so on. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2014.03.28 14:42:00 -
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We were promised many things... Edit signature? What's the point? |
Nick Bete
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.28 15:39:00 -
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I agree with you Graelyn. The old forum sigs were a fun little way to express a bit of personality and customization. Inappropriate signatures could be reported just the same as inappropriate posts and dealt with by CCP the same way that certain text sigs have been moderated after these revamped forums opened.
I know this goes against every tenet of the bittervet/spreadsheets in space crowd who scream the loudest against any changes that make Eve less gray and tedious but, as they like to throw up all the time, "HTFU, adapt of die, go back to WoW", etc. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:21:00 -
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Meh. I honestly don't care much one way or the other as I would disable them anyway.
We would have that option, right?
Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Hal Morsh
The Witch's Hammer
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:27:00 -
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It would be full of "My little ponies" and "anime".
I've seen enough sexually suggestive ponies and Tohu pedos on the "world of tanks" forum thank you very much. Don't want it here.
This is all you would see all over the place. here are some examples.
http://cs1.gamemodding.net/posts/2012-11/1353234564_GameModding2012-11-1214-08-59-98.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/Kinkedo_Now/shot_030.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img546/8391/h35b.jpg
Is this what you really want all over the forums? I cringe at the thought of "custom ship skins" I enjoy a good session of mining. |
Sarah McKnobbo
McKnobbo Universal Traders
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:30:00 -
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I really hope they don't come back.
If they do +10000 for disable option! |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
500
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:47:00 -
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Delt0r Garsk wrote:Forums with image sigs are more like a page of adverts than a forum. I would turn them off. If i couldn't well i would probably use the forums less.
If they do bring the image signatures back they should give to option to turn them off. |
Spurty
V0LTA Triumvirate.
1304
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Posted - 2014.03.28 17:57:00 -
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Images as forum sigs are sort of like HTML blink code and comic sans.
You can do it, but people will leave in droves. *signature is not allowed on the EVE Online forums* |
Rikanin
Azerick Industrial
80
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:19:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:plz no :(
I mean generally yeah, but there are always people who abuse common decency. Unfortunately they are the reason "we can't have nice things".
Well that tracks since I seem to recall my mother saying that very thing to me when I was a kid. What can I say...I had a lot of energy.
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Doireen Kaundur
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:22:00 -
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I prefer no image sigs. Gives the forum a nice clean look. Minimizing the cost of replacing implants.
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:26:00 -
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Chribba wrote:CCP's lack of control of what's in the signature is the main reason I believe.
/c
so if people abuse the feature ban them from having sigs, ccp can do this, this is why i don't have a sig. they objected to the content in mine. |
Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
310
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:27:00 -
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It's probably once bitten twice shy given the catastrophic security problem they had on the launch of the forums. -- |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.29 06:56:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Chribba wrote:CCP's lack of control of what's in the signature is the main reason I believe.
/c so if people abuse the feature ban them from having sigs, ccp can do this, this is why i don't have a sig. they objected to the content in mine. Yeah, I remember on time though, when the owner of a signature server decided to replace the content to some less wanted one. Even I had to do that at a time (with good content of course), I put EVE-Files into maintenance and replaced everyone's signature with an "EVE-Files is offline" message - now imagine someone with evil intentions doing that to others...
/c
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dexington
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.29 07:39:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Yeah, I remember on time though, when the owner of a signature server decided to replace the content to some less wanted one. Even I had to do that at a time (with good content of course), I put EVE-Files into maintenance and replaced everyone's signature with an "EVE-Files is offline" message - now imagine someone with evil intentions doing that to others...
If the images files are not hosted on servers CCP control, anyone will be able to host the image on a server they control, and save the http header when the browser downloads the image. Given enough time it might be possible to match forum usernames with ip addresses, which taken a step further could be used to detects player alts or even the real identity of the player owning the account. I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3142
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Posted - 2014.03.29 07:58:00 -
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Graelyn wrote:...and we were promised that, when the time was right and the tech was tested and ready, that we would get our image signatures back.
Image signatures used to be one of the most colorful and cool parts of the forums, with many capsuleers utilizing a great deal of creativity to express their own aspects of EVE. Heck, there was a healthy market for the services of good image-makers to provide sigs worthy of the boards.
We've waited. A long time. Very patiently.
Do give it some thought, won't you? I second this motion. Image sigs are awesome. The old forums were a lot more fun despite being poorly designed. The draw is the players. Why not for the forums as well?
CCP should get on this...
dexington wrote:Chribba wrote:Yeah, I remember on time though, when the owner of a signature server decided to replace the content to some less wanted one. Even I had to do that at a time (with good content of course), I put EVE-Files into maintenance and replaced everyone's signature with an "EVE-Files is offline" message - now imagine someone with evil intentions doing that to others... If the images files are not hosted on servers CCP control, anyone will be able to host the image on a server they control, and save the http header when the browser downloads the image. Given enough time it might be possible to match forum usernames with ip addresses, which taken a step further could be used to detects player alts or even the real identity of the player owning the account.
pfft. Pretty easy to piece that together anyway, most of the time.
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Erica Dusette
Sky Fighters Sky Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.03.29 08:23:00 -
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I support this initiative.
More (optional) visual expression ftw. -áGÖí-á-á-áMajor (Ret.) Caldari Naval Militia Gÿá -á Sky Fighters | Just an innocent explorer! pâä Sith1s Spectre: "Here at Sky Fighters we respect quality forum PvPers." |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.03.29 08:26:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Chribba wrote:CCP's lack of control of what's in the signature is the main reason I believe.
/c so if people abuse the feature ban them from having sigs, ccp can do this, this is why i don't have a sig. they objected to the content in mine. Yeah, I remember on time though, when the owner of a signature server decided to replace the content to some less wanted one. Even I had to do that at a time (with good content of course), I put EVE-Files into maintenance and replaced everyone's signature with an "EVE-Files is offline" message - now imagine someone with evil intentions doing that to others... /c
don't alliance logos etc have to be vetted by CCP? if so, use the same process for image sigs. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2014.03.29 08:31:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Chribba wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Chribba wrote:CCP's lack of control of what's in the signature is the main reason I believe.
/c so if people abuse the feature ban them from having sigs, ccp can do this, this is why i don't have a sig. they objected to the content in mine. Yeah, I remember on time though, when the owner of a signature server decided to replace the content to some less wanted one. Even I had to do that at a time (with good content of course), I put EVE-Files into maintenance and replaced everyone's signature with an "EVE-Files is offline" message - now imagine someone with evil intentions doing that to others... /c don't alliance logos etc have to be vetted by CCP? if so, use the same process for image sigs.
Isn't that a whole different thing though? Or can they be manipulated like the forum sigs were?
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10944
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Posted - 2014.03.29 09:46:00 -
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I do miss the sigs and I would love to express my love for my Megathrons in such a way.
That said when the mods sleep we would get ponies and spiderman. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1003
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Posted - 2014.03.29 11:26:00 -
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I can still see my sigs, and since no-one else bothers with the image code, it makes it really easy for me to see where I stopped posting in a thread. That's pretty neat.
And yes, having no signature images makes the forum look bland, but it looks like trash compared to the old one anyway, so who cares?
And yet, for obvious reasons, I'd like to image signatures back. But as has been pointed out, displaying images on the web is a big technical challenge, and giving players freedom to influence their environment is a bad idea. So let's stick with the 5 shades of grey. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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