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Tyrant Scorn
150
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:34:00 -
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Malcanis wrote: No I'm tired and I've had enough. If what I've already posted hasn't made the reality clear, then anything I post after this won't do it either.
I've earned my free holiday to Iceland, and you can all **** off and act like sensible human beings.
I believe I have not misbehaved. I was merely asking a question because I am genuinely interested in knowing the answer. Host at Legacy Of A Capsuleer Podcast www.legacyofacapsuleer.com |
Salvos Rhoska
854
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:34:00 -
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Batelle wrote:More like, continue abusing people on TS all you want, just be sure to not brag about it and also DENY EVERYTHING. This case was a bit unusual in that there was never any question of the veracity of the recording.
Good observation. Another fatal flaw in the Bonus Rooms by its wizard designers.
Ironically they actually thought recording would cover their own asses as long as they superficially pokerfaced through the proceedings while laughing off-mic, and that consent to recording (which was implied, not explicitly asked) would somehow magically and automatically mean consent to whatever happens there.
Protip to readers: Recording your own questionable activities, is not a good idea.
Having since read the full disclosure of what all was actually entailed in the Bonus Room itself, I am at a loss to understand or explain how people who apparently where brilliant enough to be able to convince people to transfer all their assets over before they even entered the Bonus Room, could have designed such a goofy and pants-on-head followup to that impressive achievement.
What a waste.
Anyways, returning to topic. If you think you might be banned for it. Don't do it. ------------ |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1744
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:35:00 -
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Xuixien wrote: If you're playing rugby and someone tackles you and you skin your knee, who should you really be mad at: The person who tackles you or the guy who rubs salt on the wound?
It's a game, you shouldn't get mad at either.
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4575
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:36:00 -
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I never respond to people that start their posts with 'so' and neither should you Malcanis. It's a simple method for weeding out the brainless.
Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Talon SilverHawk
Ronin Cartel The G0dfathers
657
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:36:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Ahost Gceo wrote:
I'm sorry, what planet are you on? There is an entire subculture in this game including the Minerbumping collective and Erotica 1's Bonus Room that solely exists to cause emotional distress in players for their entertainment.
It's funny, to a point. Beyond that it is detrimental, and this is a clear case of what that means.
Actually, The New Order is trying to stop botting and turn miners into productive members of society. Haven't you read the code? It spells it out pretty plainly.
Couldn't read any of it after I had wiped my arse with it and flushed it down the pan .... shame : P
Tal
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14721
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:36:00 -
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Tyrant Scorn wrote:Malcanis wrote: No I'm tired and I've had enough. If what I've already posted hasn't made the reality clear, then anything I post after this won't do it either.
I've earned my free holiday to Iceland, and you can all **** off and act like sensible human beings.
I believe I have not misbehaved. I was merely asking a question because I am genuinely interested in knowing the answer.
You should have asked sooner then. Too bad.
1 Kings 12:11
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Jebediah Phoenix
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
13
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:37:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Danalee wrote:Malcanis wrote:Jebediah Phoenix wrote:
The intention of the bonus room isn't reactions like Sokhar's
Yes it was. Bull. ****. And you know it. D. They already had ALL of his stuff. They literally had nothing left to gain from him IN GAME. So yeah no, you're the bullshitter. And you know it. And CCP agree with me, so as previously advised, suck it up buttercup. I'm in 319- if you want to make something of it.
There's nothing to gain from many activities, just as a little trash talk in local has no gain but to wind other people up. And that's usually what the bonus room delivered, someone admitting they felt dumb but accepted it was their fault because of the nature of EVE. Sokhars reaction is the equivalent of that old video of a German kid smashing up his keyboard because he's losing at whatever FPS he's playing. No one can expect that nor be blamed for it when all that's lost is a few pixels and a bit of face. |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1461
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:37:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Still, I don't want to be inflexible: the price of futher clarification from me is: all your stuff.
If you don't care enough to give me worthless spacepixels, then why should I?
Guys, it is obvious that we are taxing Malcanis to his breaking point, and I think we should stop, now. :p That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Alyth Nerun
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER CODE.
151
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:37:00 -
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Vance Armistice wrote:Alyth Nerun wrote:It looks to me like manipulating CCP into banning another player via external blog and a mad mob on the forums consisting of <0.1% of the player base is now officially part of EVE's meta game. citation needed. This isn't the bonus room, Sonny. You can't just drop a stat and expect us to believe it. Where is your source? Produce it or go bump a miner.
~500 Unique authors in the thread http://eve-search.com/stats/thread/332182-1
EVE has ~500k Subs when they last published numbers http://www.edge-online.com/news/eve-online-passes-500000-subscribers/
=> math => 0.1%
I ignored the fact that multiple chars in the thread as well as in the total subscription number may be the same person because we can assume that ratio to be the same. |
Tyrant Scorn
150
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:38:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Tyrant Scorn wrote:Malcanis wrote: No I'm tired and I've had enough. If what I've already posted hasn't made the reality clear, then anything I post after this won't do it either.
I've earned my free holiday to Iceland, and you can all **** off and act like sensible human beings.
I believe I have not misbehaved. I was merely asking a question because I am genuinely interested in knowing the answer. You should have asked sooner then. Too bad.
Ok, what ever dude... Host at Legacy Of A Capsuleer Podcast www.legacyofacapsuleer.com |
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Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda
205
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:38:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Malcanis wrote:Hope this helpsSorry that EVE criminal law isn't any more clear cut that real life. Except in real life, they have laws, you know, rules. They don't just say "don't be mean". Rules which need to be examined in each individual case to see if they apply. We now have a rule, don't push a 'victim" to the point of emotional distress... and that rule will be examined to see if it is applicable in each ticket they receive about an incident like this. Even in the strictest laws, there are layers of interpretation to be considered and debated... ultimately to be decided upon by a jury or a judge. Writing a thousand variations of a given rule (law) to cover every possible situation is impossible... there would always be loopholes and is an impractical concept to begin with. That's why laws and a system to interpret how applicable they are was developed long ago. I don't have an issue with CCP using their discretion in this, after all it is their game and their rules... and frankly I can even escalate the issue higher if I feel I've been treated unfairly. This is the wisest, and most practical way of addressing the problem as a whole instead of as a single specific incident. Thanks, you saved me the trouble to write the same.
In most cases it's enough to use common sense. It's somewhat like the basic market rule in EvE: "If it's too good to be true, it's probably neither good nor true." Most people easily understand what it means and tread carefully or ask for advice when they are in doubt. And then there are those who don't... more often than not they will lose ISK and assets.
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Danalee
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
788
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:38:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Danalee wrote:Malcanis wrote:Jebediah Phoenix wrote:The intention of the bonus room isn't reactions like Sokhar's Yes it was. Bull. ****. And you know it. They already had ALL of his stuff. They literally had nothing left to gain from him IN GAME. So yeah no, you're the bullshitter. And you know it.
He had everything and more to gain, they were holding a bonus room. No EULA/TOS/LAWS have been broken and your scapegoat victim went on record saying exactly that. Try again.
Malcanis wrote: And CCP agree with me, so as previously advised, suck it up buttercup. I'm in 319- if you want to make something of it.
You sound mad, are you mad, bro?
D.
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Ssieth
Tenebras Exteriores Dominatus Atrum Mortis
48
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:38:00 -
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Danalee wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Danalee wrote:Ranger 1 wrote: We now have a rule, don't push a 'victim" to the point of emotional distress... and that rule will be examined to see if it is applicable in each ticket they receive about an incident like this.
We now have a post from a CSM that says as much. NO RULE as of yet. We are also banning people who broke said "rule" before it was written by said CSM. Keep up, please. Ahhh, no. We have a clarification of a long existing rule. Just keeping things in perspective. So this unwritten rule wasn't clear and needed clarification but is still ok to use to ban people for transgressions before the clarification than? D.
"Unwritten rule is written".. I see a new meme on the horizon....
Seriously - as was pointed out many times here and in the previous thread, the rules are there and have only been restated. Not rewritten, unwritten, changed, modified, strengthened, weakened or anything else you might like to imagine.
I get it that you're not going to believe this (although I'm mystified as to why) but it is the way it is whether you believe it or not (reality is nice like that when it's not inside your head). W-Spacer.-á Bittervet. 75% PvP, 25% assorted other stuff. |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
535
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:38:00 -
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H aVo K wrote:When CCP says "COME PLAY EVE! YOU CAN BE THE BADDIE!!!111" and then bans someone for being too much of a baddie... well... I find it somewhat shocking that those who play that role would be told to STFU when they ask for clarification. TIL : Reading the EULA is hard.
They thought they could get away.-áNot today, it's not the way that this kid plays. |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1461
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:39:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Ahost Gceo wrote:
I'm sorry, what planet are you on? There is an entire subculture in this game including the Minerbumping collective and Erotica 1's Bonus Room that solely exists to cause emotional distress in players for their entertainment.
It's funny, to a point. Beyond that it is detrimental, and this is a clear case of what that means.
Actually, The New Order is trying to stop botting and turn miners into productive members of society. Haven't you read the code? It spells it out pretty plainly. Couldn't read any of it after I had wiped my arse with it and flushed it down the pan .... shame : P Tal
Well, then I hope you're not a miner, because James will probably use his red pen on your name, now. I'm so glad I don't have to worry about that. Being a lowsec pirate makes you exempt from a lot. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Sipphakta en Gravonere
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
509
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:39:00 -
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Brave Newbies said it best (https://twitter.com/BraveNewbies/status/449660674751217664):
Quote:@BraveNewbies Look's like someone didn't make it though to the end of CCP's Bonus Round. |
Prince Kobol
1577
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:39:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:So freedom of speech is supported up until someone's feelings get hurt, then its hate speech and pitchfork time? Pretty much sum it up from a CCP and pansy CSM perspective? I offer a closing scene from ' A Few Good [Scammers]'... Col. Erotica1: "Son, we live in a [sandbox], and that [sandbox] has to be guarded by men with [guts]. Who's gonna do it? You [Malcanis]? You, Lt. [Ripard]? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for [Sohkar], and you curse the [scammers]. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That [Sohkar's bonus room], while tragic, probably [entertained many]. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, [entertains many]. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me [in that sandbox], you need me [in that sandbox]. We use words like [awox], [scam], [metagame]. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very [content] that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a [teamspeak client], and [scam someone]. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to." Col. Erotica1: "[contemptuously] You f#ckin' people... you have no idea how to defend a [sandbox]. All you did was weaken [the meta game] today, [pansies]. That's all you did. You put people's [sandbox] in danger. Sweet dreams, son." Guardians of the players my arse, CSM should be disbanded immediately. F
There is no such thing as absolute freedom of speech, the entire notion of freedom of speech is nothing but an illusion.
You have what ever freedom your government / rules / law grants you, no more. |
Jai Centarium
Anqara Expeditions
5
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:39:00 -
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I really like the concept of this. On its face, it makes sense: Don't be a psychopath.
But there's a huge swath of grey area that begins to creep in. Most in-game operations use out-of-game tools, which this would seem to addressing. Most of us see singing ransoms as harmless, but what if someone has crippling stage fright? What if someone lemmings on an op and is hurt by being called a lemming? Those are far cries from the infamous bonus room, but a strict reading of "the law" would make them illegal.
You can also argue that no one has to accept a singing ransom. No one has to go on a fleet op and end up becoming a lemming. But as far as I know--please correct me if I'm wrong--no one forced the bonus room victims into that room. The moment they asked for a Full API key, I'd have told them to go f*** themselves and left. Greed kept the victim there.
I reiterate my first point: I really like the concept of this. But it seems like CCP is opening Pandora's box. At the first mention of "n00b" over external comms or the posting of a failfit on a forum, you're going to see petitions. "Harassment: Ripard Teg posted my triple-tanked RailRaven as his failfit of the week!"
Why not encourage a stronger community presence? That would certainly help situations like this occur fewer in number and lesser in severity? I'm a certified bitter vet, and maybe it's rose-colored glass, but the transformation of CCP from folks who hung out on IRC and joked with players into masters in an ivory tower who only descend to bestow Dev Blogs and Patches upon us has a strong correlation with the growing toxicity in the community. Build strong relationships, empower community leaders (there are plenty out there) to condemn these actions, and others will follow.
tl;dr: EVERYTHING WAS BETTER IN THE PAST or something. |
Ssieth
Tenebras Exteriores Dominatus Atrum Mortis
48
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:39:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:H aVo K wrote:When CCP says "COME PLAY EVE! YOU CAN BE THE BADDIE!!!111" and then bans someone for being too much of a baddie... well... I find it somewhat shocking that those who play that role would be told to STFU when they ask for clarification. TIL : Reading the EULA is hard.
My goodness, the willfully ignorant are not treated with kid gloves and the utmost of careful respect. I'm shocked. W-Spacer.-á Bittervet. 75% PvP, 25% assorted other stuff. |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1745
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:40:00 -
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Vance Armistice wrote:Sentamon wrote:So can we get all emotional and act crazy to get people to vacate a station camp? Weren't you quitting if E1 got banned? No courage to stand behind your convictions? Ripard agree with him or not did, Malcanis who stood in front of the galloping horde did...you ....are still here. Let me dig through your posts, I could swear it was you.
No I wasn't quitting. Now if you don't mind, quit harassing for no reason whatsoever, or I'll have to file a complaint.
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Panhandle Industries
338
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:41:00 -
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Liese Shardani wrote:Asia Leigh wrote:This is obviously a witch hunt for ero's head by the dude that wrote that blog for personal reasons. He stirred up a **** storm that incited a riot not only be alot of the eve community, but other gaming communities as well. Then CCP was pretty much forced into actioning ero's account weather they wanted to or not. This probably got the victims account actioned as well too... Yes, he started a ****storm, but I don't think it's logical to conclude it was for personal reasons. Obviously, there are people who want to believe that -- and for us to believe it, as well -- to discredit criticism of their "content" or emergent gameplay. I think it took a while for anything to get done because the forums are a big place and the blogosphere even bigger. Just because there's a dustup in one area doesn't mean it's universally known about. In the chat with Sohkar last night, it turned out he didn't know much about the thread or even about the CSM. Even if Ripard knew about this a month ago (and I have no idea when he actually found out), do you seriously blame the guy for getting his ducks in a row first before coming out against it in public? This "Oh, it's been going on forever so objecting to it now = personal vendetta" thing doesn't hold water. The Bonus Room activities smell wrong to a number of people. I swear, when I heard those audios, the first thing that came to mind was the squeal like a pig scene in Deliverance. (Yeah, yeah, I know there are no guns or knives or sexual assault in the Bonus Room, but the vibe is similar.)
I don't blame Ripard for waiting. I blame CCP for not acting sooner before a ban was necessary.
Vance Armistice wrote:He sure seems delicate. I guess the CODE is recruiting based on sensitvity. Is this the kinder, gentler CODE?
Maybe it is now minerhugging.com?
Hug a miner today! All hugs must be provided in the form of anti-matter! New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Ahost Gceo
Obstergo Red Coat Conspiracy
34
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:42:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Ahost Gceo wrote:
I'm sorry, what planet are you on? There is an entire subculture in this game including the Minerbumping collective and Erotica 1's Bonus Room that solely exists to cause emotional distress in players for their entertainment.
It's funny, to a point. Beyond that it is detrimental, and this is a clear case of what that means.
Actually, The New Order is trying to stop botting and turn miners into productive members of society. Haven't you read the code? It spells it out pretty plainly.
If the New Order wants to stop botting they should go move their operations out to nullsec. Oh wait, they won't because people in nullsec can actually stop them because there aren't any advantages in the system security mechanics for them to use to maintain dominance! Gee! Imagine that.
How about you use the brain you were born with and read between the lines, or better yet, assess the actual effect of the Minerbumping collective. If there wasn't a mountain of salt and sarcasm upon every wound they inflict then their "noble cause" might actually be friggin' believeable.
I don't discriminate, I hate everyone equally. |
Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
905
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:43:00 -
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Thank you CSM. I was worried that CCP would kneejerk on this and go too far in their response. Seems just about right though so good job. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
252
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:43:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Malcanis wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:So if you've clearly defined the lines, is it against the rules to ransom for a song, and if a "victim" of the ransom were to feel harassed, would that mean it's over the line? How many songs are "too many"?
If it's so clear, it will be pretty straightforward to answer right? Do you think you're capable of detecting when you're pushing another human being over the line? That depends entirely on the human being in question.
A true sociopath here. This isn't about a victim's REaction. It is about the perpetrator's ACTION. There is a difference, which for inexplicable reasons you seem unable to distinguish. |
Danalee
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
791
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:43:00 -
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Ssieth wrote: "Unwritten rule is written".. I see a new meme on the horizon....
Seriously - as was pointed out many times here and in the previous thread, the rules are there and have only been restated. Not rewritten, unwritten, changed, modified, strengthened, weakened or anything else you might like to imagine.
I get it that you're not going to believe this (although I'm mystified as to why) but it is the way it is whether you believe it or not (reality is nice like that when it's not inside your head).
If it has been pointed out so many times which rule was broken, it shouldn't be all too hard to provide me a link to said rule, shoudln't it?
Otherwise it is you not willing to believe something really stinks here, proof be damned.
D.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5542
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:44:00 -
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Danalee wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Danalee wrote:Ranger 1 wrote: We now have a rule, don't push a 'victim" to the point of emotional distress... and that rule will be examined to see if it is applicable in each ticket they receive about an incident like this.
We now have a post from a CSM that says as much. NO RULE as of yet. We are also banning people who broke said "rule" before it was written by said CSM. Keep up, please. Ahhh, no. We have a clarification of a long existing rule. Just keeping things in perspective. So this unwritten rule wasn't clear and needed clarification but is still ok to use to ban people for transgressions before the clarification than? D. Harassment was always bannable, they have clarified what they consider harassment.
It's a bit closer to the chest that what I would have expected, but I still consider it pretty reasonable.
Nothing has changed, just keep in mind that if you extract so many tears that your mark starts literally freaking out it's time to count your profits and leave it at that.
You still got what you wanted, and your mark gets a chance to calm down and regain his sense of perspective.
The only time this will affect anything is in the most extreme cases... and I'm okay with that. I do hope E1's ban isn't permanent though, everyone deserves a 2nd chance... no matter whether they stepped over the line intentionally or accidentally. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Talon SilverHawk
Ronin Cartel The G0dfathers
657
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:44:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Talon SilverHawk wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Ahost Gceo wrote:
I'm sorry, what planet are you on? There is an entire subculture in this game including the Minerbumping collective and Erotica 1's Bonus Room that solely exists to cause emotional distress in players for their entertainment.
It's funny, to a point. Beyond that it is detrimental, and this is a clear case of what that means.
Actually, The New Order is trying to stop botting and turn miners into productive members of society. Haven't you read the code? It spells it out pretty plainly. Couldn't read any of it after I had wiped my arse with it and flushed it down the pan .... shame : P Tal Well, then I hope you're not a miner, because James will probably use his red pen on your name, now. I'm so glad I don't have to worry about that. Being a lowsec pirate makes you exempt from a lot.
I know James and have already had one of my mining ships name feature on his web site in the past, I still have it around somewhere. I'll wave next time I'm out in it : )
Tal |
Alyth Nerun
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER CODE.
151
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:44:00 -
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Kinis Deren wrote:Alyth Nerun wrote:It looks to me like manipulating CCP into banning another player via external blog and a mad mob on the forums consisting of <0.1% of the player base is now officially part of EVE's meta game. Mate, get another cushion for your chair 'cos all I'm hearing is butt hurt. Jump in a ship, get out there and blow stuff up, scam, awox, commit corp theft ..... in time, you'll feel 100% better. You are right. I may even get some miners banned for their rl death threads in the replies to the ganks. I used to not care at all about this and not petition it. I just changed this policy, because new meta. |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
541
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:44:00 -
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Jebediah Phoenix wrote:when all that's lost is a few pixels and a bit of face. The "it's just pixels" argument is fine to make if talking about your pixels. But if I got mine with GTC, or spending 300 hours mining, they may represent more than just "pixels" to me.
I hate when people pull the "just pixels" crap in Eve, when we know full well people make massive time, energy and money commitments to be here. If you're carefree with your pixels, grand. Don't assume everyone feels as you do.
Btw, give me your pixels, since they are "just a few pixels".
They thought they could get away.-áNot today, it's not the way that this kid plays. |
Ssieth
Tenebras Exteriores Dominatus Atrum Mortis
51
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:45:00 -
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Ahost Gceo wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote: Actually, The New Order is trying to stop botting and turn miners into productive members of society. Haven't you read the code? It spells it out pretty plainly.
If the New Order wants to stop botting they should go move their operations out to nullsec. Oh wait, they won't because people in nullsec can actually stop them because there aren't any advantages in the system security mechanics for them to use to maintain dominance! Gee! Imagine that. How about you use the brain you were born with and read between the lines, or better yet, assess the actual effect of the Minerbumping collective. If there wasn't a mountain of salt and sarcasm upon every wound they inflict then their "noble cause" might actually be friggin' believeable.
I think he might have been aiming for irony. At least I hope so, there's so much dumb around currently it's sometimes hard to tell.. W-Spacer.-á Bittervet. 75% PvP, 25% assorted other stuff. |
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