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H aVo K
Tycheon Industries Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2014.03.30 00:08:00 -
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Liese Shardani wrote:Are a lot of messages getting deleted or something? I've been an EVE player for a couple of years, but this is my first full week actually posting on the forums.
Yup... I was on page 85, went to another site for an hour, and then clicked "back" ... only to find out that nearly 3 pages worth of posts had gone poof. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4719
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Posted - 2014.03.30 00:17:00 -
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Tor Norman wrote:Yup. Posts are definiately going bye-bye.
Damn! Some of my finest work was in here. Ah well... easy come, easy go.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1062
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Posted - 2014.03.30 01:11:00 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1212
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Posted - 2014.03.30 02:06:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:I do partly agree, but when a person loses their temper they lose their inhibitions too revealing the real them False. When someone, anyone, loses their temper, they behave in a manner that is not the "real" them. Or are you trying to claim that everyone who is not in a state of losing their temper, is not the real them? DERP! Are you not real until you are angry?
When people are calm and collected they exhibit more self control and behave in socially acceptable ways, when they lose that self control and rage out that's the point at which everything they say is true or designed to intimidate or coerce. The fact that someone uses racist language in temper in an attempt to coerce the other persons into capitulating to their demands proves that they are racist and hold racist views, otherwise they wouldn't use them.
This is what I mean when i say that you get to see the real person when they lose their temper, you see the ugly side of them that they normally hide in everyday life. It might be ugly but it's still a side of them. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1212
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Posted - 2014.03.30 02:09:00 -
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H aVo K wrote:Liese Shardani wrote:Are a lot of messages getting deleted or something? I've been an EVE player for a couple of years, but this is my first full week actually posting on the forums. Yup... I was on page 85, went to another site for an hour, and then clicked "back" ... only to find out that nearly 3 pages worth of posts had gone poof.
Whole threads have gone missing today. I have no opinion on the merits of those moderation decisions however, just pointing it out for the record. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1212
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Posted - 2014.03.30 02:10:00 -
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Jayem See wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:What I find most vile in all of this is Ripard Tegs underhanded approach to it all.
If you don't like Erotica1 and what she did, fair enough. But to abuse his privileged position to push for an individual user to be banned, and then to write a highly inflammatory piece - one which resorts to hysterics and evocations of literal torture - and spreading it around news media when CCP didn't agree with him... that's just revolting on so many levels.
ban ripard teg +1 Politicians eh. -1 People with nothing to add eh.
Lol eh +2 Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Winchester Steele
663
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Posted - 2014.03.30 02:46:00 -
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I don't know about all this harassment nonsense, but I will say unequivocally that Ripard Teg should be banned for his part in this. For a CSM to purposely incite a witch hunt against another player by using loaded and slanderous terminology in a highly polemical blog is unacceptable and morally reprehensible.
I am shocked and dismayed that CCP has let this person so aggressively promote their own personal agenda, even to their own detriment.
I am also disappointed that CCP has such a double standard whereby a CSM member is able to write a venomous, libelous blog that literally resulted in another player receiving death threats and harassment and receives no punishment, while this player, who broke NO rules and was operating on a third party program gets permanently banned.
I thought the CSM were supposed to represent the community? Ripard knew the damage he would cause, not only to CCP, but to the victim of his hate filled, slanderous blog post. Should our CSM not be held to a higher standard?
If Ripard had a problem with Erotica 1 he should have done what every other player in this game must do: file a petition.
This isn't about whether or not you found Erotica 1 or the bonus room distasteful. This is about consistency and fair application of policy from CCP, whether the player has a CSM tag or no.
Ban Ripard Teg! ... |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4732
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Posted - 2014.03.30 02:49:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:I do partly agree, but when a person loses their temper they lose their inhibitions too revealing the real them False. When someone, anyone, loses their temper, they behave in a manner that is not the "real" them. Or are you trying to claim that everyone who is not in a state of losing their temper, is not the real them? DERP! Are you not real until you are angry? When people are calm and collected they exhibit more self control and behave in socially acceptable ways, when they lose that self control and rage out that's the point at which everything they say is true or designed to intimidate or coerce. The fact that someone uses racist language in temper in an attempt to coerce the other persons into capitulating to their demands proves that they are racist and hold racist views, otherwise they wouldn't use them. This is what I mean when i say that you get to see the real person when they lose their temper, you see the ugly side of them that they normally hide in everyday life. It might be ugly but it's still a side of them.
When I lose it I might smash your head into the ground until you need to be hospitalized, but I would never use a racial or sexist slur while I was doing it.
Strange but true.
We are a really ****** up species.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
676
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Posted - 2014.03.30 03:38:00 -
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Winchester Steele wrote:I...
This isn't about whether or not you found Erotica 1 or the bonus room distasteful. This is about consistency and fair application of policy from CCP, whether the player has a CSM tag or no.
Nope, CCP don't have to be consistent or fair or just or moral or ethical or even right, they can do what they want in this. This is their call and they can change the rules to suit their business. I remember Helicity Boson saying to CCP "I'm gonna come down on you like a ton of bricks if..."FWOOP gone. That's how it should be, any consistency or pressure to be so could be gamed to their detriment.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
61
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Posted - 2014.03.30 04:09:00 -
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Jayem See wrote:Danalee wrote:I'll try again: We all know shadoo's outburst. He humiliated a player and called him among other things a ******. IF at that time a CSM would have had an axe to grind and blogged about it you can bet your bottom dollar he'd have no problems finding a couple dozen forum trolls to start a threadnaught. What I know now from what is happened is that CCP would have banned him. Rightly so, the video even has ingame footage, no doubt it happened in EVE online, not on some teamspeak server where they have no control over. Or do you think they wouldn't have? D. Straws. You are grasping at.
Grasping at what straws? Was that guy banned or not? And if not why?
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Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
61
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Posted - 2014.03.30 04:15:00 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:Liese Shardani wrote:Are a lot of messages getting deleted or something? I've been an EVE player for a couple of years, but this is my first full week actually posting on the forums. First, welcome to the forum Second, yes: I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil! The rules:4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
Lets be serious though, you could nuke this entire thread and the whole threadnaut for trolling and personal attacks. Just saying...
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
2051
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Posted - 2014.03.30 04:37:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:So let me get this straight, a very famous EvE Online blogger that's also a member of the CSM used his influence and power to start a witch-hunt on another player, for something that happened outside of the game that he condemns. In is moral high ground blog he harassed and persecuted the player, until a shitstorm thread started on the EvE Online forums, where he continued the witchcraft trial. The thread was closed and the player got banned.
This makes total sense to me... I prefer to think of it as he made the player base aware of what a raging psychopath was up to in the game we all play. But sure, if you prefer the term witch hunt, then whatever. Mr Epeen The player base was well aware of this situation before hand, there werere threads about it before. And remember, the "victim" of this particular case stated clearly that he didn't think E1 should be banned and that he was well aware it was his choices and his words, and that he'd just lost his temper at the time. So yes, witch hunt. Teg has some kind of stick up his ass about E1 and decided to take out his personal issues on hi. He should be dropped from the CSM. A CSM hold an awful lot of power, since so many people will blindly support him in whatever he says just because he's a CSM so they feel that's what they are supposed to do. Picking up a personal vendetta against a player is unfair and he should be responsible by addressing issues in private with CCP if he has them. Given I wasn't going to vote for CSM because I thought they were all useless and now I'd gladly vote for Teg I think you're incorrect. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Onyx Nyx
Euphoria Released Triumvirate.
618
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Posted - 2014.03.30 04:52:00 -
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I have been told truly terrible things in local whenever I have been flying a falcon or something else that attracts rage. The unkind words directed at me has caused me great distress, tears, nightmares, sleep deprivation and even thoughts of suicide.
With this official statement from CCP, can I fully expect CCP to punish these evildoers? Because I am about to go test that in practice by ganking some miner and see much they care about the rules of society afterwards. I kill kittens, and puppies and bunnies. I maim toddlers and teens and then more. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4220
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Posted - 2014.03.30 05:09:00 -
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Winchester Steele wrote:I don't know about all this harassment nonsense, but I will say unequivocally that Ripard Teg should be banned for his part in this. For a CSM to purposely incite a witch hunt against another player by using loaded and slanderous terminology in a highly polemical blog is unacceptable and morally reprehensible.
I am shocked and dismayed that CCP has let this person so aggressively promote their own personal agenda, even to their own detriment.
I am also disappointed that CCP has such a double standard whereby a CSM member is able to write a venomous, libelous blog that literally resulted in another player receiving death threats and harassment and receives no punishment, while this player, who broke NO rules and was operating on a third party program gets permanently banned.
I thought the CSM were supposed to represent the community? Ripard knew the damage he would cause, not only to CCP, but to the victim of his hate filled, slanderous blog post. Should our CSM not be held to a higher standard?
If Ripard had a problem with Erotica 1 he should have done what every other player in this game must do: file a petition.
This isn't about whether or not you found Erotica 1 or the bonus room distasteful. This is about consistency and fair application of policy from CCP, whether the player has a CSM tag or no.
Ban Ripard Teg!
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9355
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Posted - 2014.03.30 05:16:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Tor Norman wrote:Yup. Posts are definiately going bye-bye. Damn! Some of my finest work was in here. Ah well... easy come, easy go. Mr Epeen Your posts should still be on eve-search. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4738
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Posted - 2014.03.30 05:18:00 -
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Onyx Nyx wrote:I have been told truly terrible things in local whenever I have been flying a falcon or something else that attracts rage. The unkind words directed at me has caused me great distress, tears, nightmares, sleep deprivation and even thoughts of suicide.
With this official statement from CCP, can I fully expect CCP to punish these evildoers? Because I am about to go test that in practice by ganking some miner and see much they care about the rules of society afterwards.
Well you might get banned for stupidity because look at your sig. Whining like a ***** when you have that sig just puts you first in line at the ban wagon.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Tweek Etimua
The Paragons
29
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Posted - 2014.03.30 05:31:00 -
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Asia Leigh wrote:Jayem See wrote:Danalee wrote:I'll try again: We all know shadoo's outburst. He humiliated a player and called him among other things a ******. IF at that time a CSM would have had an axe to grind and blogged about it you can bet your bottom dollar he'd have no problems finding a couple dozen forum trolls to start a threadnaught. What I know now from what is happened is that CCP would have banned him. Rightly so, the video even has ingame footage, no doubt it happened in EVE online, not on some teamspeak server where they have no control over. Or do you think they wouldn't have? D. Straws. You are grasping at. Grasping at what straws? Was that guy banned or not? And if not why?
Lol oh no Shadoo was not banned. In fact for the most people realy like shadoo and thought the outburst was hilariouse. You should youtube it. |
Glathull
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
385
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Posted - 2014.03.30 05:36:00 -
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Oh this thread is still a thing. That's too bad.
To repeat, the skill split is scheduled for the big Summer 2013 expansion. ~CCP Fozzie |
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
3254
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Posted - 2014.03.30 06:02:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Onyx Nyx wrote:I have been told truly terrible things in local whenever I have been flying a falcon or something else that attracts rage. The unkind words directed at me has caused me great distress, tears, nightmares, sleep deprivation and even thoughts of suicide.
With this official statement from CCP, can I fully expect CCP to punish these evildoers? Because I am about to go test that in practice by ganking some miner and see much they care about the rules of society afterwards. Well you might get banned for stupidity because look at your sig. Whining like a ***** when you have that sig just puts you first in line at the ban wagon. Mr Epeen
You used to be cool, man. What happened? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Onyx Nyx
Euphoria Released Triumvirate.
618
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Posted - 2014.03.30 06:03:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Onyx Nyx wrote:I have been told truly terrible things in local whenever I have been flying a falcon or something else that attracts rage. The unkind words directed at me has caused me great distress, tears, nightmares, sleep deprivation and even thoughts of suicide.
With this official statement from CCP, can I fully expect CCP to punish these evildoers? Because I am about to go test that in practice by ganking some miner and see much they care about the rules of society afterwards. Well you might get banned for stupidity because look at your sig. Whining like a ***** when you have that sig just puts you first in line at the ban wagon. Mr Epeen
Good point! Fixed it and it is from a song, and is about a character in the LFG web comic.
Link for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcbazH6aE2g I kill kittens, and puppies and bunnies. I maim toddlers and teens and then more.
- Richard (http://www.lfgcomic.com/) |
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Onyx Nyx
Euphoria Released Triumvirate.
618
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Posted - 2014.03.30 06:07:00 -
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double post... hotel wifi \o/ I kill kittens, and puppies and bunnies. I maim toddlers and teens and then more.
- Richard (http://www.lfgcomic.com/) |
JC Anderson
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1055
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Posted - 2014.03.30 06:30:00 -
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Although CCP clarified their stance on this, the only place that I've actually seen mention that Erotica 1 was banned was on Minerbumping. (If I am missing any additional published info then point me to it please) And there, they said they were informed by Erotica 1. :P
April 1st is coming soon, as mentioned elsewhere.
I am also assuming that Erotica 2 is not the same individual.
Please note that I have no preferences in this entire situation towards either side of the argument, and am only really following it because its far better than any of the crap on TV now days. I am just curious to see how it all pans out at this point. |
Tor Norman
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
93
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Posted - 2014.03.30 06:50:00 -
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I'd be interested to know if E1 was ever warned about his activities before being banned. WTF did I just read? |
JC Anderson
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1056
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Posted - 2014.03.30 06:52:00 -
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Tor Norman wrote:I'd be interested to know if E1 was ever warned about his activities before being banned.
If he was in fact banned, I also was wondering about that part. |
Tor Norman
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
93
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Posted - 2014.03.30 06:59:00 -
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JC Anderson wrote:Tor Norman wrote:I'd be interested to know if E1 was ever warned about his activities before being banned. If he was in fact banned, I also was wondering about that part. Would be quite funny if E1 wasn't and was just trolling us. WTF did I just read? |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
455
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Posted - 2014.03.30 07:24:00 -
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Onyx Nyx wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Onyx Nyx wrote:I have been told truly terrible things in local whenever I have been flying a falcon or something else that attracts rage. The unkind words directed at me has caused me great distress, tears, nightmares, sleep deprivation and even thoughts of suicide.
With this official statement from CCP, can I fully expect CCP to punish these evildoers? Because I am about to go test that in practice by ganking some miner and see much they care about the rules of society afterwards. Well you might get banned for stupidity because look at your sig. Whining like a ***** when you have that sig just puts you first in line at the ban wagon. Mr Epeen Good point! Fixed it and it is from a song, and is about a character in the LFG web comic. Link for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcbazH6aE2g
Richard rules! http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Dorn Val
Probe Patrol Awakened.
177
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Posted - 2014.03.30 08:10:00 -
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Bael Malefic wrote:Liese Shardani wrote:Tor Norman wrote:Seemed to work well for him. I'd like to convince more of my coworkers and friends to try EVE, but if I had to answer the question of "Well, what do you DO in EVE?" with tales of begging in Jita and luring people to the glorious Bonus Round, not only would they not want to try the game but they'd also think I was not someone they want to be around. I continue to be amazed that anyone's willing to defend the practice. There are plenty of basement dwelling social misfits and closet sociopaths who will defend it.
Life is filled with all kinds of people, some bad and some good. So do you stay in your house all day afraid to go outside? Eve is more simulation than game and a reflection of what would happen if you put people in the environment that pod pilots are in. Think "Lord of the Flys". Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate... |
Goa Chai
18
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Posted - 2014.03.30 08:27:00 -
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Dorn Val wrote:Life is filled with all kinds of people, some bad and some good. So do you stay in your house all day afraid to go outside? Eve is more simulation than game and a reflection of what would happen if you put people in the environment that pod pilots are in. Think "Lord of the Flys".
So.... who wants to be Piggy? |
Salvos Rhoska
914
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Posted - 2014.03.30 08:27:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:This is what I mean when i say that you get to see the real person when they lose their temper, you see the ugly side of them that they normally hide in everyday life. It might be ugly but it's still a side of them.
Then everything you are saying now does not represent your real view, or you, because you are not saying it in a state of having lost your temper.
Or, are you mad right now? ------------ |
Dorn Val
Probe Patrol Awakened.
177
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Posted - 2014.03.30 08:34:00 -
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Goa Chai wrote:Dorn Val wrote:Life is filled with all kinds of people, some bad and some good. So do you stay in your house all day afraid to go outside? Eve is more simulation than game and a reflection of what would happen if you put people in the environment that pod pilots are in. Think "Lord of the Flys". So.... who wants to be PIggy?
Piggy saw the world not as it was but how he wanted it to be, so I'd guess that most of the high sec Care Bears could play the part... Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate... |
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