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Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
277
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Posted - 2014.04.07 19:52:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Anslo wrote:
It does (work place discrimination, hate related violence etc), but that doesn't outlaw things like klan rallies and crap. They're allowed to do that, just like anyone else wanting to voice an opinion.
How does violence became hate-related if racism is something that is not referenced in the law? Racist SPEECH isn't against the law, because we have a freedom of speech. When racism is the motivation for something that actually IS against the law, it is treated differently. Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM! |
Anslo
Scope Works
4794
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Posted - 2014.04.07 19:54:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Anslo wrote:hate speech heard or written at a crime scene as a suspect MO, etc. So yes, I cant see how that isnt agreeing with my point. Racism (for example) turns a regular assault into a hate crime Therefore, spoken or written racism is not protected under freedom of speech. That was my point. You are twisting words. Racist speech is protected under freedom of speech, as exampled numerous times, as long as it does not link to criminal activity. The act of being racist is protected by law...I don't like it, but it is.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3214
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Posted - 2014.04.07 19:55:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:So free speech in the US has no connection to the law either?
Cool cool. Not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse, but the concept of free speech predates the notion of God's Empire on Earth, the Magnificent United States of America.
What?
You said
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: Appealing to the law is really poor argumentation.
When I said, in response to a comment by someone that racism was protected by freedom of speech that the law doesnt see it that way.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3216
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Posted - 2014.04.07 19:56:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Anslo wrote:hate speech heard or written at a crime scene as a suspect MO, etc. So yes, I cant see how that isnt agreeing with my point. Racism (for example) turns a regular assault into a hate crime Therefore, spoken or written racism is not protected under freedom of speech. That was my point. You are twisting words. Racist speech is protected under freedom of speech, as exampled numerous times, as long as it does not link to criminal activity. The act of being racist is protected by law...I don't like it, but it is.
No, it isnt twisting anything. It really isnt. *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Loko Crackhead
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2014.04.07 19:57:00 -
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Ramona made me do it.
@Lucas Kell
No we are not clear. I was saying that I won't use previous unrelated events to judge the situation at hand. I might use it when considering the punishment ( already said that straight ban was a bit harsh but that's the problem with the forums- fragmentation). If CCP failed to act on this type of situation before, is on them not on me and I do agree (concede if you will) that their actions in this case seem to have bad publicity as a reason amongst other reasons.
I won't listen to lame excuses and consider them versions of the truth. Maybe I'm just stupid that way but it seems like a bad case of time waisting. And I will be gracious enough not to go into "What behavior?" remark. Singing and reading is all fine and dandy until somebody uses the "n" word or starts making RL threats. At that point the sane person stops the charade.
Yes other people were involved and I'm not sure they didn't get any repercussion but hey if they didn't, they should consider themselves lucky. |
Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
277
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Posted - 2014.04.07 19:57:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Anslo wrote:hate speech heard or written at a crime scene as a suspect MO, etc. So yes, I cant see how that isnt agreeing with my point. Racism (for example) turns a regular assault into a hate crime Therefore, spoken or written racism is not protected under freedom of speech. That was my point. Except it is. I can walk around in the US and say the N-word all I want in public. I can write it in blogs as much as I want. I can form an organization and protest at funerals screaming that "GOD HATES ***S!" all I want, and that will all be freedom of speech, protected under the Bill of Rights.
However, how my fellow citizens will treat me if I do all of those things is a different matter. You see, it isn't the job of the government to keep hate speech under control, it's the job of society at whole to keep that stuff in check. If you are a politician and you say something that is offensive to certain groups, it is career suicide. If you are the owner of a restaurant chain and you release a statement that is offensive towards certain groups, there will be large numbers of people protesting and boycotting your brand.
That is free speech. You have the freedom to say "I HATE N-WORDS!" and I have the freedom to tell you to **** off. Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM! |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3216
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Posted - 2014.04.07 19:58:00 -
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Loko Crackhead wrote:Ramona made me do it.
@Lucas Kell
No we are not clear. I was saying that I won't use previous unrelated events to judge the situation at hand. I might use it when considering the punishment ( already said that straight ban was a bit harsh but that's the problem with the forums- fragmentation). If CCP failed to act on this type of situation before, is on them not on me and I do agree (concede if you will) that their actions in this case seem to have bad publicity as a reason amongst other reasons.
I won't listen to lame excuses and consider them versions of the truth. Maybe I'm just stupid that way but it seems like a bad case of time waisting. And I will be gracious enough not to go into "What behavior?" remark. Singing and reading is all fine and dandy until somebody uses the "n" word or starts making RL threats. At that point the sane person stops the charade.
Yes other people were involved and I'm not sure they didn't get any repercussion but hey if they didn't, they should consider themselves lucky.
This *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Anslo
Scope Works
4794
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Posted - 2014.04.07 19:58:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Anslo wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Anslo wrote:hate speech heard or written at a crime scene as a suspect MO, etc. So yes, I cant see how that isnt agreeing with my point. Racism (for example) turns a regular assault into a hate crime Therefore, spoken or written racism is not protected under freedom of speech. That was my point. You are twisting words. Racist speech is protected under freedom of speech, as exampled numerous times, as long as it does not link to criminal activity. The act of being racist is protected by law...I don't like it, but it is. No, it isnt twisting anything. It really isnt. Cool story.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3216
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Posted - 2014.04.07 19:59:00 -
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Brusanan wrote: Except it is. I can walk around in the US and say the N-word all I want in public. I can write it in blogs as much as I want. I can form an organization and protest at funerals screaming that "GOD HATES ***S!" all I want, and that will all be freedom of speech, protected under the Bill of Rights.
However, how my fellow citizens will treat me if I do all of those things is a different matter. You see, it isn't the job of the government to keep hate speech under control, it's the job of society at whole to keep that stuff in check. If you are a politician and you say something that is offensive to certain groups, it is career suicide. If you are the owner of a restaurant chain and you release a statement that is offensive towards certain groups, there will be large numbers of people protesting and boycotting your brand.
That is free speech. You have the freedom to say "I HATE N-WORDS!" and I have the freedom to tell you to **** off.
So the US has no law against incitement to cause violence?
And the US Constitution applies to the internet now?
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3216
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Posted - 2014.04.07 20:00:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Anslo wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Anslo wrote:hate speech heard or written at a crime scene as a suspect MO, etc. So yes, I cant see how that isnt agreeing with my point. Racism (for example) turns a regular assault into a hate crime Therefore, spoken or written racism is not protected under freedom of speech. That was my point. You are twisting words. Racist speech is protected under freedom of speech, as exampled numerous times, as long as it does not link to criminal activity. The act of being racist is protected by law...I don't like it, but it is. No, it isnt twisting anything. It really isnt. Cool story.
You keep saying things, then when I explain how I disagree, you get snotty and short.
Second time in the same thread.
Now, I accept your apology, and no hard feelings.
Move along, nothing to see here. *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
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Anslo
Scope Works
4794
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Posted - 2014.04.07 20:03:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:
Now, I accept your apology, and no hard feelings.
Move along, nothing to see here.
Apology for what?
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Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
277
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Posted - 2014.04.07 20:04:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Brusanan wrote: Except it is. I can walk around in the US and say the N-word all I want in public. I can write it in blogs as much as I want. I can form an organization and protest at funerals screaming that "GOD HATES ***S!" all I want, and that will all be freedom of speech, protected under the Bill of Rights.
However, how my fellow citizens will treat me if I do all of those things is a different matter. You see, it isn't the job of the government to keep hate speech under control, it's the job of society at whole to keep that stuff in check. If you are a politician and you say something that is offensive to certain groups, it is career suicide. If you are the owner of a restaurant chain and you release a statement that is offensive towards certain groups, there will be large numbers of people protesting and boycotting your brand.
That is free speech. You have the freedom to say "I HATE N-WORDS!" and I have the freedom to tell you to **** off.
So the US has no law against incitement to cause violence? And the US Constitution applies to the internet now? Yes, and incitement to cause violence is where free speech stops, which I have already stated, if you actually bothered reading instead of just continuing to argue about a subject you clearly know nothing about.
However, there is a difference between saying "GOD HATES ***S" and saying "GOD WANTS YOU TO KILL ALL ***S RIGHT NOW". One is free speech protected by the Bill of Rights, and the other is against the law.
Also, hate speech is allowed on the internet, and if your country doesn't like it they can block your access to the website. And it's certainly not CCP's place to enforce hate speech laws on TeamSpeak's servers. Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM! |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3216
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Posted - 2014.04.07 20:09:00 -
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Brusanan wrote: So the US has no law against incitement to cause violence?
And the US Constitution applies to the internet now?
Yes, and incitement to cause violence is where free speech stops, which I have already stated, if you actually bothered reading instead of just continuing to argue about a subject you clearly know nothing about.[/quote]
I believe I stated it first, actually
Saying you believe you know more than me, well you must be a big man where you come from.
Brusanan wrote:However, there is a difference between saying "GOD HATES ***S" and saying "GOD WANTS YOU TO KILL ALL ***S RIGHT NOW". One is free speech protected by the Bill of Rights, and the other is against the law.
Also, hate speech is allowed on the internet, and if your country doesn't like it they can block your access to the website. And it's certainly not CCP's place to enforce hate speech laws on TeamSpeak's servers.
Sigh. Not really much point going on. Should have seen that when you made your first statement supporting his opinion.
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Anslo
Scope Works
4794
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Posted - 2014.04.07 20:23:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:EDIT
I withdraw my comments, and I accept responsibility for my actions up till now.
I apologise for fighting a pointless battle, and I accept that I do not know it all.
I yield to the superior arguments put forward, and refute previous statements I have made with little or no logical backing. Well. Didn't see that coming.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3216
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Posted - 2014.04.07 20:25:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:EDIT
I withdraw my comments, and I accept responsibility for my actions up till now.
I apologise for fighting a pointless battle, and I accept that I do not know it all.
I yield to the superior arguments put forward, and refute previous statements I have made with little or no logical backing. Well. Didn't see that coming.
I offer you a frank and full apology, specifically
You clearly have the conviction of what you were saying, I have no right to attempt to undermine that.
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Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
280
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Posted - 2014.04.07 20:28:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:EDIT
I withdraw my comments, and I accept responsibility for my actions up till now.
I apologise for fighting a pointless battle, and I accept that I do not know it all.
I yield to the superior arguments put forward, and refute previous statements I have made with little or no logical backing. Wow. Well props for being able to admit when you are wrong instead of mindlessly repeating the same things over and over again until the opposing side gets bored and leaves like everyone else in this thread.
Much respect. Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM! |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3218
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Posted - 2014.04.07 20:30:00 -
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Brusanan wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:EDIT
I withdraw my comments, and I accept responsibility for my actions up till now.
I apologise for fighting a pointless battle, and I accept that I do not know it all.
I yield to the superior arguments put forward, and refute previous statements I have made with little or no logical backing. Wow. Well props for being able to admit when you are wrong instead of mindlessly repeating the same things over and over again until the opposing side gets bored and leaves like everyone else in this thread. Much respect.
I appreciate that
For what its worth, I think I misread your post after a long and very tiring day and I snapped.
Once I was waist deep, I tried to pull my legs out with my arms.
Once my arms were stuck, I tried to pull them out with my face
So yeah, apologies to you too *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Anslo
Scope Works
4795
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Posted - 2014.04.07 20:33:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Anslo wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:EDIT
I withdraw my comments, and I accept responsibility for my actions up till now.
I apologise for fighting a pointless battle, and I accept that I do not know it all.
I yield to the superior arguments put forward, and refute previous statements I have made with little or no logical backing. Well. Didn't see that coming. I offer you a frank and full apology, specifically You clearly have the conviction of what you were saying, I have no right to attempt to undermine that. Its me who owes it to you Accepted. You're more engagable when chill. Stay chill Candles.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3218
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Posted - 2014.04.07 20:34:00 -
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Anslo wrote: Accepted. You're more engagable when chill. Stay chill Candles.
Thanks, Ill certainly do my best to
I have to say, when the red mist drops, more often than not, the folk in here are solid
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Anslo
Scope Works
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Posted - 2014.04.07 20:36:00 -
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On that note, who's up for a pint?!
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Snupe Doggur
Republic University Minmatar Republic
46
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Posted - 2014.04.07 20:43:00 -
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Tysun Kane wrote:Man I am just learning about this incident from the Cap Stable podcast I listen to. IMO this RL harassment just went to far BUT I also believe that the only thing that CCP seems to think is wrong is that it made it to there forums and that brings it to to the large audience and including all the new players we have had lately... That's not the position taken in the OP:
CCP Falcon wrote:...CCP, in collaboration with the CSM, have agreed and would like to state in the strongest possible terms and in accordance with our existing Terms of Service and End User License Agreement, that real life harassment is morally reprehensible, and verifiable examples of such behavior will be met with disciplinary action...
That the perp brought it to the forum himself just made it easily verifiable, obviating questions such as "Did it really happen?" and "Who was involved?" Things could have turned out very differently, but despite all the CSM-blaming tears, the perp did it to himself. For that we can be grateful. |
Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
278
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Posted - 2014.04.07 20:52:00 -
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Snupe Doggur wrote:Tysun Kane wrote:Man I am just learning about this incident from the Cap Stable podcast I listen to. IMO this RL harassment just went to far BUT I also believe that the only thing that CCP seems to think is wrong is that it made it to there forums and that brings it to to the large audience and including all the new players we have had lately... That's not the position taken in the OP: CCP Falcon wrote:...CCP, in collaboration with the CSM, have agreed and would like to state in the strongest possible terms and in accordance with our existing Terms of Service and End User License Agreement, that real life harassment is morally reprehensible, and verifiable examples of such behavior will be met with disciplinary action... That the perp brought it to the forum himself just made it easily verifiable, obviating questions such as "Did it really happen?" and "Who was involved?" Things could have turned out very differently, but despite all the CSM-blaming tears, the perp did it to himself. For that we can be grateful. Right. The problem is when banning someone for Real Life Harassment, you should also be asking questions like "Is it actually harassment?" and "Did it happen in real life?". CCP didn't seem to be too concerned with the answers to those two questions. Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM! |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3091
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Posted - 2014.04.07 21:59:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Hes back in the corp, and the corp never left the alliance and its back in its coalition.
What is it that you are saying?
That he shouldnt have lost his assests in a scam? No, I'm saying that overall he made isk following the bonus room, and the corp kicking thing was something he and his corp leader agreed. that was just in response to the "Everybody was punished" thing earlier.
Loko Crackhead wrote:No we are not clear. I was saying that I won't use previous unrelated events to judge the situation at hand. I might use it when considering the punishment ( already said that straight ban was a bit harsh but that's the problem with the forums- fragmentation). If CCP failed to act on this type of situation before, is on them not on me and I do agree (concede if you will) that their actions in this case seem to have bad publicity as a reason amongst other reasons.
I won't listen to lame excuses and consider them versions of the truth. Maybe I'm just stupid that way but it seems like a bad case of time waisting. And I will be gracious enough not to go into "What behavior?" remark. Singing and reading is all fine and dandy until somebody uses the "n" word or starts making RL threats. At that point the sane person stops the charade.
Yes other people were involved and I'm not sure they didn't get any repercussion but hey if they didn't, they should consider themselves lucky. OK, so if someone asks me to sing, I call them a "n" word and f they don't stop, they get banned. Sounds... fair.
And no, nobody that wasn't targeted by Teg's hate campaign received any kind of punishment. So it was just E1.
And they aren't lame excuses, they are first hand accounts of the facts. The audio file you listened to wasn't even the whole bonus room... The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
3091
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Posted - 2014.04.07 22:09:00 -
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Brusanan wrote:Snupe Doggur wrote:Tysun Kane wrote:Man I am just learning about this incident from the Cap Stable podcast I listen to. IMO this RL harassment just went to far BUT I also believe that the only thing that CCP seems to think is wrong is that it made it to there forums and that brings it to to the large audience and including all the new players we have had lately... That's not the position taken in the OP: CCP Falcon wrote:...CCP, in collaboration with the CSM, have agreed and would like to state in the strongest possible terms and in accordance with our existing Terms of Service and End User License Agreement, that real life harassment is morally reprehensible, and verifiable examples of such behavior will be met with disciplinary action... That the perp brought it to the forum himself just made it easily verifiable, obviating questions such as "Did it really happen?" and "Who was involved?" Things could have turned out very differently, but despite all the CSM-blaming tears, the perp did it to himself. For that we can be grateful. Right. The problem is when banning someone for Real Life Harassment, you should also be asking questions like "Is it actually harassment?" and "Did it happen in real life?". CCP didn't seem to be too concerned with the answers to those two questions. You also have the question "Did it happen at all". In the beginning I've asked that question, and DJ FunkyBacon has stated how simple a task it would be to offer someone in game to "take it to teamspeak" then record and edit an audio file to make it sound like someone identifying themselves as the target is being abusive. There would be no way to tell it was really them, and so no way to realistically enforce the new stance on third party harassment.
In this case, Erotica 1 made it clear as he wasn't hiding, since his intention was not to harass. So the reason he was banned was by being up front about it. If he'd not posted it there would be no way for someone to prove it was him. So realistically what is being stated here is that if you harass people out of game, don't publicly post it in a place that can be verified as you. If CCP take the other stance and ban without verification, then they open themselves up to someone setting someone up for a ban who did nothing wrong. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.04.07 22:49:00 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay.
The Rules: 5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1250
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Posted - 2014.04.07 23:34:00 -
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Brusanan wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Brusanan wrote: he was allowed to be as racist as he wanted Im just going to let this stand for what it is. Welcome to free speech. I know it's a foreign concept for people who live in many European countries where they ban any kind of speech that is mildly offensive to the easily offended.
That's not the Europe I live in. Our democracies are protected by EU legislation, the only people trying to undermine that is the USA which is where you presumably live.
Plus we didn't decide to spy on the entire Internet. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
106
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Posted - 2014.04.08 07:53:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:If you don't like it, you can leave.
And if you don't like the discussion you can stop posting >.> Erotica 1: Scams someone-á-á Ripard: Makes inflamatory blog post that incites eve community and the MMO community-á Sohkar: I wasn't harrased-á-á-á-áCCP: Banned-á-á-á Moral of this story? If you don't want to get banned, don't **** off CSM |
Salvos Rhoska
1022
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Posted - 2014.04.08 09:18:00 -
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Asia Leigh wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:If you don't like it, you can leave. And if you don't like the discussion you can stop posting >.>
As can you ^^ ------------ |
Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
106
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Posted - 2014.04.08 10:40:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote: Blah, blah, blah I'm just a NPC corp forum troll
Living up to your name again I see :P
I love these guys who have nothing to add to the conversation or is confronted with an argument that they have no answer to, so they result to trolling and personal attacks.
I'm done with you now, welcome to my blocked list. Bye Bye now :D
Erotica 1: Scams someone-á-á Ripard: Makes inflamatory blog post that incites eve community and the MMO community-á Sohkar: I wasn't harrased-á-á-á-áCCP: Banned-á-á-á Moral of this story? If you don't want to get banned, don't **** off CSM |
Salvos Rhoska
1022
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Posted - 2014.04.08 11:12:00 -
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I love these guys who have nothing to add to the conversation or is confronted with an argument that they have no answer to, so they result to trolling and personal attacks.
And then when they recognise that they have no ground to stand on, they announce that they are blocking you.
Byebye Leigh! ------------ |
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