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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
3429
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Posted - 2014.04.01 14:02:00 -
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Well, if you want to ignore opportunity cost and profit-to-m3 ratios, then that's your business. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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TomHorn
Dragonaurs Ndrangheta.
200
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Posted - 2014.04.01 15:07:00 -
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Quote:Laws don't cease to have been broken simply because they were broken by a hero, a patriot or a soldier. At best, they can be concluded to have been legitimately broken for good reason. Seeing as I have no legal authority to pass judgement over Pyre Falcon, I'll refrain from commenting.
It seems to me you have already commented on them Stitcher. You see Pyre Falcon as a criminal/terrorist organisation, for their dealings with TS-F. Your judgement because of this deal guilty as charged. |
Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
3431
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Posted - 2014.04.01 15:13:00 -
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"Broke the law" does not equal "criminal or terrorist organisation". A parking ticket doesn't make you a hardened Gurista. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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TomHorn
Dragonaurs Ndrangheta.
200
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Posted - 2014.04.01 15:44:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:"Observing that they may have broken the law" does not equal "Consider them to be a criminal and/or terrorist organisation". A parking ticket doesn't make you a hardened Gurista, after all.
I much prefer this conciliatory tone of yours. That you see their agreement with TS-F as a misdemeanor act, rather than a more serious offence. After all, us as patriots and you as liberals, we both consider ourselves loyal to the State. We should not be looking to criminalize one another. I still see no crime in Pyre Falcon actions, regarding the returning of Caldari prisoners of war home to us. |
Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
3431
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Posted - 2014.04.01 15:59:00 -
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Don't play the condescending "much better" card with me you son of a *****. whatever Pyre's misdemeanours may be, YOU vocally identify and sympathize with the State's declared enemies. You don't get to call yourself a patriot and servant of the State when the very organisation whose name you proudly wear has been outlawed by the CEP. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Claudia Osyn
Mythic Security Service
270
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Posted - 2014.04.01 16:20:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Don't play the condescending "much better" card with me you son of a *****. whatever Pyre's misdemeanours may be, YOU vocally identify and sympathize with the State's declared enemies. You don't get to call yourself a patriot and servant of the State when the very organisation whose name you proudly wear has been outlawed by the CEP
I'm not willing to call Pyre terrorists or criminals, but I am damn well willing to call YOU one. And furthermore, he doesn't like you. The lack of money is the root of all evil. |
Desiderya
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
714
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Posted - 2014.04.01 16:29:00 -
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It might be useful to note that, whenever it comes to outright war between Nation and the State again, and toying with CONCORD and capsuleers does not constitute as such at this moment, diplomatic efforts will be revisited as it is good practice. A clear example would be Upliftings part 2.0. Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise. |
Anabella Rella
Gradient
1621
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:02:00 -
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A Dragonaur attempting to lecture someone on ethics and morality? That's pretty rich. Maybe I'll join the Bloody Hands and come back in here spouting off.
When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around. |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
527
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:05:00 -
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Desiderya wrote:It might be useful to note that, whenever it comes to outright war between Nation and the State again, and toying with CONCORD and capsuleers does not constitute as such at this moment, diplomatic efforts will be revisited as it is good practice. A clear example would be Upliftings part 2.0.
You don't count Nation assaulting Caldari State sovereign systems and kidnapping your local populations to be an outright act of war? Interesting; what other atrocities towards your people can someone commit without being labeled as an enemy to you and yours?
-Eran |
Komodo Askold
No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
130
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:16:00 -
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I personally feel comfortable with ships from the four Empires, as well as outlaw organisations and ORE. The reason is purely practical: from a given ship category, I will choose the one that better suits the role I intend to give it, as well as my own combat style and my aesthetical preferences on that moment.
Otherwise I'd be expending ages for choosing a ship: I tend not to have favourites from a given category (even colours!), at least for long time; instead I think practical and learn to love the final choice, even if it isn't my most favourite at that moment.
A good example is my Dominix-class battleship. Aiming for higher capabilities from my lovely Prophecy-class battlecruiser "LazerHawk", the next step in the drone carrier line would be either the Apocalypse or the Dominix. Even though I prefered the Apocalypse's lines, I chose the Gallente software superiority. Right now, "Omega" is my most precious (and only!) battleship, and its drones have teared through many Blood Raiders hulls.
That said, I always keep a small, warm place in my heart for Minmatar designs, for obvious reasons. |
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
4497
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:18:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:A Dragonaur attempting to lecture someone on ethics and morality? That's pretty rich. Maybe I'll join the Bloody Hands and come back in here spouting off. Don't. Red's not a good colour for your hands. I think they'd look much better in a pale taupe, perhaps. Mane 614
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Pieter Tuulinen
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
3433
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:22:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Anabella Rella wrote:A Dragonaur attempting to lecture someone on ethics and morality? That's pretty rich. Maybe I'll join the Bloody Hands and come back in here spouting off. Don't. Red's not a good colour for your hands. I think they'd look much better in a pale taupe, perhaps.
What the heck kind of colour is taupe, anyway? |
Anslo
Scope Works
4655
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:31:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Anabella Rella wrote:A Dragonaur attempting to lecture someone on ethics and morality? That's pretty rich. Maybe I'll join the Bloody Hands and come back in here spouting off. Don't. Red's not a good colour for your hands. I think they'd look much better in a pale taupe, perhaps. What the heck kind of colour is taupe, anyway? Brown. Sort of. Light brown.
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Desiderya
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
714
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Posted - 2014.04.01 21:52:00 -
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Eran Mintor wrote:
You don't count Nation assaulting Caldari State sovereign systems and kidnapping your local populations to be an outright act of war? Interesting; what other atrocities towards your people can someone commit without being labeled as an enemy to you and yours?
-Eran
When there's a CTA we'll reconsider. Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise. |
Primus Aulmais
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.04.02 00:13:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Anabella Rella wrote:A Dragonaur attempting to lecture someone on ethics and morality? That's pretty rich. Maybe I'll join the Bloody Hands and come back in here spouting off. Don't. Red's not a good colour for your hands. I think they'd look much better in a pale taupe, perhaps. I find that I would disagree with that assessment - Ms. Rella would, in my own opinion, look exceptionally fetching in carmine satin arm-length gloves matched to a satin strapless evening dress of the same color...
It would also be practical, as the color would serve to make any blood stains more difficult to spot via casual observation and/or at a distance. |
Foley Aberas Jones
34
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Posted - 2014.04.03 11:42:00 -
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so it seems the conversation has died down.....
Bring in the dancing lobsters!
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
972
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Posted - 2014.04.04 12:54:00 -
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Stitcher wrote: I'm not willing to call Pyre terrorists or criminals, but I am damn well willing to call YOU one.
Maybe you will name when exactly and which terrorist or criminal act he did commit or participated in. You know, at least one definite terror act and one proven criminal act. Facts only, that can be verified, not just words or rumors. You get it, right?
Because without it, you know, your words are just disgraceful slanders. |
Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
3463
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Posted - 2014.04.04 14:22:00 -
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I assume you mean that I should provide examples BESIDES his vocal political support of a terrorist organisation up to and including wearing their name?
That would seem to be superfluous. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
972
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Posted - 2014.04.04 14:36:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:I assume you mean that I should provide examples BESIDES his vocal political support of a terrorist organisation up to and including wearing their name?
That would seem to be superfluous. Facts please, or apologizes to him, of course, if you have at least a remaining bits of honor. His words will do, but only if they will be about his participation in a verifiable act of terrorism and crime. |
Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
3464
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Posted - 2014.04.04 14:39:00 -
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he named his corporation "Dragonaurs". An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
973
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Posted - 2014.04.04 16:19:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:he named his corporation "Dragonaurs". Mr. Verin, what part of my question was hard to read? I asked about facts, where he himself committed an act of terror and crime, or facts about him participating in one. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
3437
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Posted - 2014.04.04 17:26:00 -
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Didn't Horn-haan fly against the CEP during the Executor's last stand? "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..." |
Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
4502
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Posted - 2014.04.04 18:03:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Didn't Horn-haan fly against the CEP during the Executor's last stand? Well, sort of? Mane 614
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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
3479
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Posted - 2014.04.05 01:47:00 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Stitcher wrote:he named his corporation "Dragonaurs". Mr. Verin, what part of my question was hard to read? I asked about facts, where he himself committed an act of terror and crime, or facts about him participating in one.
Associating with a known terrorist organisation, espousing their doctrine and expressing support for their cause IS a crime, under anti-terrorism laws. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Agiri Falken
State War Academy Caldari State
146
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Posted - 2014.04.05 01:55:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Stitcher wrote:he named his corporation "Dragonaurs". Mr. Verin, what part of my question was hard to read? I asked about facts, where he himself committed an act of terror and crime, or facts about him participating in one. Associating with a known terrorist organisation, espousing their doctrine and expressing support for their cause IS a crime, under anti-terrorism laws. Come on Hakatain-haan, since when have inconvenient facts gotten in the way of rabid belief in the Dogma o' Heth? |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
973
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Posted - 2014.04.05 06:47:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Stitcher wrote:he named his corporation "Dragonaurs". Mr. Verin, what part of my question was hard to read? I asked about facts, where he himself committed an act of terror and crime, or facts about him participating in one. Associating with a known terrorist organisation, espousing their doctrine and expressing support for their cause IS a crime, under anti-terrorism laws. Mr. Verin, are we talking on different languages? Translators stopped working on your side? Can you provide a fact or his own confession in COMMITTING any terror ACT, or you just loudmouth him, because he belongs to patriotic organization you don't LIKE? |
Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
3481
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Posted - 2014.04.05 14:15:00 -
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Goalposts are being moved here. First you asked me to mention any act of terrorism or crime he committed, which I did.
Next you asked me to mention any crime AND act of terrorism, so I explained that the crime was under terrorism laws.
Now you're asking for just the act.
If you are a member or vocal supporter of a terrorist cell, then you are yourself a terrorist. The only distinction governed by performing an actual act of terrorism is whether or not you're a successful terrorist. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
973
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Posted - 2014.04.05 23:34:00 -
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Stitcher wrote:Goalposts are being moved here. First you asked me to mention any act of terrorism or crime he committed, which I did.
Next you asked me to mention any crime AND act of terrorism, so I explained that the crime was under terrorism laws.
Now you're asking for just the act.
If you are a member or vocal supporter of a terrorist cell, then you are yourself a terrorist. The only distinction governed by performing an actual act of terrorism is whether or not you're a successful terrorist. Mr. Verin...
I strongly recommend you review your reading skills, since in the whole first question I asked you provide with acts of both criminal and terror acts, I have even underlined word "and", while you yelp here like I asked to provide only one of these.
Besides, your "crime" under terrorism laws is still invalid, because he associated himself not with terrorists, but rather with old Raata patriotic partisan organization.
Thus I again ask to provide both facts of crime and terror acts of him, or apologize to him. |
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