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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1476
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:31:00 -
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Drone 16 wrote: If you get sent eve mails that hurt your feelings
Just stop right there, guy. This isn't about "hurt feelings", you nit wit. Ero hurt people's feelings. My Ferox hurts people's feelings. These sickos might be tossing off idle threats, but they also might actually be psychos. You can't know that for sure.
What part of "death threats" , "racist slurs", and "threatened to find me and r**e my girlfriend" didn't freaking sink into your skull? That's not "hurting someone's feelings".... that's an "oh my gods, what if this guy really is some psychopath and actually tries to follow through on what he said?"
CCP can ban him.... that's cool. He's out of the game. That doesn't mean it's impossible for him to get even more emoraged, and attempt to find me, IRL. CCP can't stop him from cyberstalking me and finding where I live.
That's the point where the only defense I have is the shotgun in my closet.
EVE doesn't need people like that.
And don't trivialize this issue. This is much worse than a friggin "bonus round", or ganking a mission runner. This is something that is actually potentially dangerous to real people. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Caljiav Ocanon
Deep Axion
28
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:32:00 -
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When you think about it, right now we as a society and the world population at large are living under more rules and regulations than possibly at any time in our history. More laws are created somewhere on an almost daily basis for something that restricts some personal liberty people had the day before.
There are some notable exceptions (the legalization in some states of recreational ********* use in the U.S. for an example) but in reality these are rare exceptions to the rule.
Why is this?
Because everyday people around the world demonstrate with actions that they cannot be trusted to abide by "common sense" and good decency. That's just how it is.
We shouldn't need laws to tell us that slavery is wrong. But we do.
We shouldn't need laws that punish ****. But we do.
We shouldn't need laws governing "clean air" (ie. clean air act). But we do.
We shouldn't need to criminalize "cyber bullying". But we do.
All this and a whole lot more because people CANNOT generally be trusted to be nice to other people. We have to have rules so that people don't run amok and cause problems for other people. It can be argued that the anonymity afforded on the internet has made it even worse for things.
If people demonstrably prove they can't handle responsibility then guess what?
More rules are the only thing that can be done.
It sucks, but that's the way it is. If and when people prove they can be responsible and decent then fine but until then I'm afraid the rules need to be put in place and upheld.
I hope that people see what has happened recently and realize that it does nothing but cause problems for all of us. I'm not saying we should all gather 'round for a group hug around the campfire singing Kumbaya but we could at least tone the crap down a bit...
TL;DR It would be nice if we could have option 2 but I have my doubts that it'll be sustainable in the long term.
Though I fly through the valley of death, I shall fear no evil, for I am aligned to a safespot and warping out. - Me 2013
An engineering flowchart for the fledgling Minmatar pilot. http://i.imgur.com/Ws0m3a6.jpg |
Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
7056
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:33:00 -
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Altrue wrote:I'll pick 1.
I pick Her!
I like Missiles. Zimmy Zeta - I f*cking love martinis. the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. Carmen Electra - You are also on my block list. Mr Epeen for CSM9 |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
421
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:33:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Drone 16 wrote: If you get sent eve mails that hurt your feelings
Just stop right there, guy. This isn't about "hurt feelings", you nit wit. Ero hurt people's feelings. My Ferox hurts people's feelings. These sickos might be tossing off idle threats, but they also might actually be psychos. You can't know that for sure. What part of "death threats" , "racist slurs", and "threatened to find me and r**e my girlfriend" didn't freaking sink into your skull? That's not "hurting someone's feelings".... that's an "oh my gods, what if this guy really is some psychopath and actually tries to follow through on what he said?" CCP can ban him.... that's cool. He's out of the game. That doesn't mean it's impossible for him to get even more emoraged, and attempt to find me, IRL. CCP can't stop him from cyberstalking me and finding where I live. That's the point where the only defense I have is the shotgun in my closet. EVE doesn't need people like that. And don't trivialize this issue. This is much worse than a friggin "bonus round", or ganking a mission runner. This is something that is actually potentially dangerous to real people.
I thought the guy that waws getting scammed was the one making racial slurs and irl threats NOT the guys running the room.
http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
133
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:35:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Please can you help the CSM by choosing which of the three courses of action the CSM should recommend to CCP as the way forward.
Choice: 2 (obviously)
DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Malcanis wrote: They stated their position yesterday. It boils down to: if you're too much of a dickbag to one of our customers then we don't want to do business with you.
So long as you confine your dickbaggery to reasonable limits, you're fine.
If the community feels itself unable to keep itself within reasonable limits, then the alternative is for CCP to explicitly define those limits and I doubt anyone would like the result of that, because that definition would have to cope with the most vulnerable and least resilient of CCP's customers.
Wow. I am speechless. You get to have a seat on the CSM, and you openly refer to paying customers and your fellow gamers as "Dickbags". Simply awful. I hope you are removed from the CSM soon. I don't want you representing the game I love.
Quite a while back I called Malcanis out for "stepping over the line (at the time) a bit much and his replies were starting to be 'too much sarcasm, and no help'". He considered what I had to say and I think he has reigned in since then.
This exchange is making me believe I may have misspoken. The fact is I'm surprised he hasn't called you worse by this point.
I'll put this simply: Malcanis is right. The Law of Unintended Consequences is in full effect with #1 - you may picture it being one way, but it will most certainly be the other. I left WoW years ago b/c I saw them trending harder into "easy mode"; I don't want CCP to ever feel it should go that direction.
Also, he's an elected official; NOT an employee of CCP. If you don't like how he talks to you, don't vote for him. However, I'd urge you to consider it doesn't matter how he talks to you in the end as long as he is doing his job on the council.
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
379
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:35:00 -
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1.5
There will always be stupid that needs to be cleaned.
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Aivo Dresden
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
320
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:36:00 -
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To be honest, the "incident we're not supposed to discuss" is from last month. There's been threads about that already when it first appeared. There's been other similar cases before that.
I'm very happy that the CSMs are paying attention to this and are trying to get our voices heard at CCP but on the other hand, this also feels very reactive. Steps should have been taken before the community spoke up, when it first happened.
It's nice to see that Malcanis put forth a vote to see what the community wants here, at the same time the options are badly phrased by someone who is very much biased towards one of the options. N/O Malcanis, I think you started a good initiate and discussion here. And just like any other player, you're entitled to your opinion and preference.
I think in general we can all agree we need some more clear cut lines. Any kind of harassment that gets taken out side of the game and results in to real life harassment is unacceptable. CCP doesn't really need to go all police state on us, but having a clear rule set is a good thing. Having a policy that says malicious racist or ethnic abuse is not allowed isn't really limiting your game play is it? No single behavioral rule should really affect your game play.
People from all over come here to enjoy EVE with some friends, blow up some spaceships, do their missions, play the market, .... No one logs in to get abused. And in all honesty, if people can't display the common sense on when something has gone too far, then maybe we as the community, don't want you in our game (which I think has been expressed loud and clear in this specific most recent situation). |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1476
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:36:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Drone 16 wrote: If you get sent eve mails that hurt your feelings
Just stop right there, guy. This isn't about "hurt feelings", you nit wit. Ero hurt people's feelings. My Ferox hurts people's feelings. These sickos might be tossing off idle threats, but they also might actually be psychos. You can't know that for sure. What part of "death threats" , "racist slurs", and "threatened to find me and r**e my girlfriend" didn't freaking sink into your skull? That's not "hurting someone's feelings".... that's an "oh my gods, what if this guy really is some psychopath and actually tries to follow through on what he said?" CCP can ban him.... that's cool. He's out of the game. That doesn't mean it's impossible for him to get even more emoraged, and attempt to find me, IRL. CCP can't stop him from cyberstalking me and finding where I live. That's the point where the only defense I have is the shotgun in my closet. EVE doesn't need people like that. And don't trivialize this issue. This is much worse than a friggin "bonus round", or ganking a mission runner. This is something that is actually potentially dangerous to real people. I thought the guy that waws getting scammed was the one making racial slurs and irl threats NOT the guys running the room.
Well that's also true. Ero remained calm and composed throughout the entire recording. Sokhar was the one who raged out.
But that bonus round wasn't what I was talking about. I was talking about ragemails pirates get from carebears, every day. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
134
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:39:00 -
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Although, I should be saying this: I'd like more stringent enforcement of the forum rules... would that make it 1.95? Or 2? thecoffeerocks.blogspot.com Twitter: @thecoffeerocks |-áSteam: CoffeeRocks | thecoffeerocks.blogspot.com https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=327221 |
One Eyed Runner
Perkone Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:39:00 -
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Kyperion wrote:Drone 16 wrote:Kyperion wrote:I also, even if I am the one and only player to think/say so, will continue to advance the idea that we can keep the same nonconsensual PVP ships blowing up flavor of EVE, while dropping what seems to cause most of the harassment.... scamming! Most of the player created controversies in this game have been a result of the gameplay mechanics allowing for relative easy thievery from individuals as well as corps/alliances I may be the lone voice crying in the wilderness, and most likely no one will give me the time of day. But I will say this, these problems will never go away until scamming is made totally against the rules. I truly understand where you are coming from, but removing scamming would undermine the very fabric of the game. Can't happen, Eve needs it's dark underbelly. I also understand your sentiments, however EVE can keep its dark underbelly without fomenting an atmosphere conducive to the griefing and harassment of players, especially newer, or more naive players. They can do this by keeping the cuthroat nonconsenual PVP ship combat, while dropping the legal thievery. I mean think about it, the amount of press that EVE gets from scams is miniscule... the amount of press it gets because of huge ass battles is what keeps this game in the headlines. So make the PVP outsmarting people in trade and combat instead of chat logs.
Don't know if any of you have played Vendetta online, but it allows anyone to kill anyone anywhere, with very little chance of the "bad" player getting killed. New players are not safe even in starter systems and has seen lots of new players quit because of it. Their sub numbers are at about 2k players with only about 200 or so being online at any given time. They have been subbing for about 11 years now, but their sub numbers don't really change, that is way we need rules of some kind to keep this game going. We have to act like adults and semi reasonable humans or we may not have this game.
I live in Jita so f*ck off |
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
5643
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:40:00 -
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Option 4. CCP diverts it's research money into quantum physics and cyborg technologies, creates a time machine and sends a terminator back in time stop Ripard Teg before he becomes self aware enough to blog about anything. |
Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
134
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:42:00 -
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Caljiav Ocanon wrote: We shouldn't need laws governing "clean air" (ie. clean air act). But we do.
I just wanted to add that the Republicans gutted the heart of the CAA out back in 2010-12. Along with portions of the Clean Water Act. A lot of it so you can enjoy fracking and "easier" (or no) pesky environmental regs to follow.
Food for thought.
P.S. I'm not trying to derail the discussion; this is one of those "think about it" comments.
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Drone 16
Law Dogz
125
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:43:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Darkopus wrote:Drone 16 wrote:KnowUsByTheDead wrote:No one has told you that. I have mined, missioned, done PI, marketed, and just about every other PvE activity in the game, aside from production activities and moon mining. I pirate now. Probably will for the remainder of my time playing the game. But what Jarod is saying, is that if he thinks you look like a viable target...he is gonna shoot. As would I and the other members of the outlier communities. Because it is a game about shooting spaceships. Our problem is, and again, no one is saying YOU, but your subsection of the community has a propensity to send rage mails that make little to no sense, and are jumbled letters on a page. Or convo's laden with racial slurs and homophobic ranting. A "gf" in local would go a lot further. If you get sent eve mails that hurt your feelings then send a petition to CCP about it and get the guy banned. No one here is saying that you need to suffer. We understand that there is a human being behind that keyboard that might be bit delicate in real life and just be role-playing a tough, hard as nails pirate. Have at it! yes, people with any kind of "moral" compass understand there is a human being behind the keyboard, No; you are content in a video game, and people who cant figure that out have far more problems than morals. You types are the ones who harm yourselves when your D&D character dies. Seek help. Drone 16 wrote:
If you get sent eve mails that hurt your feelings then send a petition to CCP about it and get the guy banned.
No one here is saying that you need to suffer. We understand that there is a human being behind that keyboard that might be bit delicate in real life and just be role-playing a tough, hard as nails pirate.
Have at it!
Welcome to the era of "if your feelings get hurt petition the GM." HTFU is in the past My only real question is does this extend to the forums? Because I can think of a few who have given me emotional reactions that need a ban XD
Lol.. in your rush to histrionics you missed the tone of my post. I was gently mocking the "hard guy" above me. If you weren't in such a rush to vomit your "feelings" onto the forums you would have seen that.
I have seen you posting a lot. You also seem to be very delicate, one could say eve a bit teary over this whole thing.
I know you say you would choose #3 but this whinging you are doing makes you seem like a #1 type of guy. Like I said, if any of this adult talk is hurting your feelings there is a mechanism to address it, the petition.
tissue? |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
508
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:43:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Option 4. CCP diverts it's research money into quantum physics and cyborg technologies, creates a time machine and sends a terminator back in time stop Ripard Teg before he becomes self aware enough to blog about anything. Jen aSide for csm! If in doubt...do...excessively. |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
422
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:45:00 -
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Drone 16 wrote:
Lol.. in your rush to histrionics you missed the tone of my post. I was gently mocking the "hard guy" above me. If you weren't in such a rush to vomit your "feelings" onto the forums you would have seen that.
I have seen you posting a lot. You also seem to be very delicate, one could say eve a bit teary over this whole thing.
I know you say you would choose #3 but this whinging you are doing makes you seem like a #1 type of guy. Like I said, if any of this adult talk is hurting your feelings there is a mechanism to address it, the petition.
tissue?
Emotional reaction! I need an adult!
If the petition is the mechanism, what the **** the point of this thread?
Oh yea, there isnt one http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
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Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
134
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:47:00 -
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Altrue wrote:I'll pick 1.
Why? Because I don't see how talking badly to another player can be, in any situation, a positive thing.
Yes the 2 would be acceptable because we are adults and could probably moderate ourselves. But when we don't, and it happens, what do we gain from it? Nothing.
Judging by the number of people attracted by brave because of the stay classy rule, I'd say that I'm not the only one in favor of a ruthless gameplay environment, with measured human behaviour.
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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects
699
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:50:00 -
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2 If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide
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Kyperion
175
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:50:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Option 4. CCP diverts it's research money into quantum physics and cyborg technologies, creates a time machine and sends a terminator back in time stop Ripard Teg before he becomes self aware enough to blog about anything. Reported |
Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
255
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:52:00 -
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2
And naturally any action would have to come with an unbanning of Erotica 1. Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM! |
Moja Hinken
State War Academy Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:52:00 -
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(2) CCP should continue with the status quo, and trust the members of the EVE community to have the adult intelligence and humanity to exercise discretion in how far they can take their communication with other players. And having exercised that discretion, to also be aware that we're all members of the game community and that while every kind of in-game space-villainy is legitimate, we're all actual human beings behind the screen and we should be careful with our out of game actions to each other. This option is, so far as I am aware, unique to CCP and EVE; if other MMOs place this level of trust and faith in their players I am unaware of them.
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Kyperion
175
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:53:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Option 4. CCP diverts it's research money into quantum physics and cyborg technologies, creates a time machine and sends a terminator back in time stop Ripard Teg before he becomes self aware enough to blog about anything. Jen aSide for csm! Just so we can be clear... another fine example of the civility of your side....
Go ahead and complain more about the supposed and unlinked death threats E1 received!!! |
Drone 16
Law Dogz
125
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:53:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Drone 16 wrote: If you get sent eve mails that hurt your feelings
Just stop right there, guy. This isn't about "hurt feelings". Ero hurt people's feelings. My Ferox hurts people's feelings. These sickos might be tossing off idle threats, but they also might actually be psychos. You can't know that for sure. What part of "death threats" , "racist slurs", and "threatened to find me and r**e my girlfriend" didn't freaking sink into your skull? That's not "hurting someone's feelings".... that's an "oh my gods, what if this guy really is some psychopath and actually tries to follow through on what he said?" CCP can ban him.... that's cool. He's out of the game. That doesn't mean it's impossible for him to get even more emoraged, and attempt to find me, IRL. CCP can't stop him from cyberstalking me and finding where I live. That's the point where the only defense I have is the shotgun in my closet. EVE doesn't need people like that. And don't trivialize this issue. This is much worse than a friggin "bonus round", or ganking a mission runner. This is something that is actually potentially dangerous to real people. EDIT: I should not have resorted to name-calling, even the harmless one that I tossed off. My bad. I redacted it.
No worries on the name calling. I think you are a pretty chill guy. I've said it before.
I'm not sure what you are arguing with me about. If you gank someone and you have concerns get them banned. That is about the best CCP can do to help you. As was said previously call the local police if it gets worse.
People coming on here to vent about miners threatening them are just silly, I'm sorry. I makes them no different then the miners venting about them. Which has absolutely nothing to do with the topic.
This discussion is about a peanutbuter/mayo/humiliation fetishist that was removed from the game because CCP and the CSM and the bulk of the community thought he had gone to far. Anything else if just smoke brought about by his fan bois.
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2138
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:54:00 -
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2 This is not a signature. |
Snupe Doggur
Republic University Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:57:00 -
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2 |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
548
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:57:00 -
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1)
and while you are at it, disband CSM as being useless. CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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Helena Russell Makanen
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
210
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:58:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Needless to say, my strong preference is for option 2. If CCP are forced to give a rigid definition of what is acceptable, then they will have to set the bar at a far lower level than we're used to operating within.
I prefer to be treated like an adult and to be trusted to be able to use my judgement.
2
This 100%. I think it sad this even has to be discussed. "If a miner needs to go to the bathroom, for instance, I ask that they dock up first, or at the very least ask the Supreme Protector for permission to go."-á --á James 315 - aka - the miner bumper |
Drone 16
Law Dogz
125
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Posted - 2014.03.29 15:59:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Drone 16 wrote:
Lol.. in your rush to histrionics you missed the tone of my post. I was gently mocking the "hard guy" above me. If you weren't in such a rush to vomit your "feelings" onto the forums you would have seen that.
I have seen you posting a lot. You also seem to be very delicate, one could say eve a bit teary over this whole thing.
I know you say you would choose #3 but this whinging you are doing makes you seem like a #1 type of guy. Like I said, if any of this adult talk is hurting your feelings there is a mechanism to address it, the petition.
tissue?
Emotional reaction! I need an adult! If the petition is the mechanism, what the **** the point of this thread? Oh yea, there isnt one
I agree totally with the first sentence your post... |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
5645
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Posted - 2014.03.29 16:00:00 -
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Kyperion wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Option 4. CCP diverts it's research money into quantum physics and cyborg technologies, creates a time machine and sends a terminator back in time stop Ripard Teg before he becomes self aware enough to blog about anything. Jen aSide for csm! Just so we can be clear... another fine example of the civility of your side.... Go ahead and complain more about the supposed and unlinked death threats E1 received!!!
Who pissed in this guys Cheerios lol? |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1642
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Posted - 2014.03.29 16:00:00 -
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INB4 Lock.
or...
INB4 double standard.... I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1477
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Posted - 2014.03.29 16:01:00 -
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Drone 16 wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Drone 16 wrote: If you get sent eve mails that hurt your feelings
Just stop right there, guy. This isn't about "hurt feelings". Ero hurt people's feelings. My Ferox hurts people's feelings. These sickos might be tossing off idle threats, but they also might actually be psychos. You can't know that for sure. What part of "death threats" , "racist slurs", and "threatened to find me and r**e my girlfriend" didn't freaking sink into your skull? That's not "hurting someone's feelings".... that's an "oh my gods, what if this guy really is some psychopath and actually tries to follow through on what he said?" CCP can ban him.... that's cool. He's out of the game. That doesn't mean it's impossible for him to get even more emoraged, and attempt to find me, IRL. CCP can't stop him from cyberstalking me and finding where I live. That's the point where the only defense I have is the shotgun in my closet. EVE doesn't need people like that. And don't trivialize this issue. This is much worse than a friggin "bonus round", or ganking a mission runner. This is something that is actually potentially dangerous to real people. EDIT: I should not have resorted to name-calling, even the harmless one that I tossed off. My bad. I redacted it. No worries on the name calling. I think you are a pretty chill guy. I've said it before. I'm not sure what you are arguing with me about. If you gank someone and you have concerns get them banned. That is about the best CCP can do to help you. As was said previously call the local police if it gets worse. People coming on here to vent about miners threatening them are just silly, I'm sorry. I makes them no different then the miners venting about them. Which has absolutely nothing to do with the topic. This discussion is about a peanutbuter/mayo/humiliation fetishist that was removed from the game because CCP and the CSM and the bulk of the community thought he had gone to far. Anything else if just smoke brought about by his fan bois.
I just have a sincere aversion towards people who can't separate a video game from reality. WoW players have been known to IRL murder other WoW players over internet swords, or getting ganked on a PvP server. We don't need those kinds of people in EVE. We are supposed to be better than that. My point is that CCP needs to stop catering to those kind of people. Most of us are only sociopaths, in-game. You wouldn't know it from my constant eagerness to violence people's boats, but if the people I shoot met me at the pub, I'd buy them a pint and wingman for them. I'm just that kind of bloke. I honestly worry about some of our carebears, though. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
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