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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
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Posted - 2014.03.31 22:39:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Maybe it is. But you have to CONSENT to it. The alleged victim was free to refuse the requests and leave at any time. He CHOSE to stay and subject himself to what was an increasingly obvious exercise in futility and foolishness because he was blinded by greed. He wanted his 5X payout, man! Most people would have cut their losses and left LONG before getting to the point of making racist remarks and rl death threats. Why hasnt HE been banned for HIS blatant violations of the TOS/EULA? This has already been dealt with numerous times, and it misses the point. CCP took action against individual(s) and activities it didn't judge in Eve's best interest. That's the beginning and the end of the story m8.
Well then, either weeding out people who make racists remarks and rl DEATH THREATS is NOT in CCP's best interest, or they really dont care about their own rules and merely selectively punish SOME people for breaking their rules but not others. I wonder what the criteria is? How does one guy get away with breaking the written rules, and another guy gets punished for allegedly breaking some rule that only applies to in-game activities, yet said activities transpired out of game? Could it just be that someone there at CCP just plain doesnt like E1 and that was good enough reason?
The double standard should be quite obvious even to those who support the banning of E1. If you don't ALSO ask for the "victim" to be banned, you're being a hypocrite.
Where do I get MY get out of jail free card?
BEING AN ******* IS NOT A CRIME! I support un-banning Erotica1
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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
533
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Posted - 2014.03.31 22:44:00 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Maybe it is. But you have to CONSENT to it. The alleged victim was free to refuse the requests and leave at any time. He CHOSE to stay and subject himself to what was an increasingly obvious exercise in futility and foolishness because he was blinded by greed. He wanted his 5X payout, man! Most people would have cut their losses and left LONG before getting to the point of making racist remarks and rl death threats. Why hasnt HE been banned for HIS blatant violations of the TOS/EULA? This has already been dealt with numerous times, and it misses the point. CCP took action against individual(s) and activities it didn't judge in Eve's best interest. That's the beginning and the end of the story m8. Well then, either weeding out people who make racists remarks and rl DEATH THREATS is NOT in CCP's best interest, or they really dont care about their own rules and merely selectively punish SOME people for breaking their rules but not others. I wonder what the criteria is? How does one guy get away with breaking the written rules, and another guy gets punished for allegedly breaking some rule that only applies to in-game activities, yet said activities transpired out of game? Could it just be that someone there at CCP just plain doesnt like E1 and that was good enough reason? The double standard should be quite obvious even to those who support the banning of E1. If you don't ALSO ask for the "victim" to be banned, you're being a hypocrite. Where do I get MY get out of jail free card?
Lol good point
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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
534
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Posted - 2014.03.31 22:46:00 -
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http://pastebin.com/Z99BTRGV
Quote:Ripard Teg was invited, but did not respond. During a skype conversation among podcasters during the show, he gave his reasons for declining to be interviewed by someone else. His stance makes sense. At this point he's won, and has nothing to gain by having to defend his assertions.
What? You wanted me to read it, so I am and Im making comments between running missionsXD PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4810
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Posted - 2014.03.31 22:46:00 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote: Where do I get MY get out of jail free card?
Since you pay the jail every month for the privilege of being locked up, I'd think the answer is fairly obvious.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
534
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Posted - 2014.03.31 22:51:00 -
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Quote:0:46 Joined by Jaschar Verge, the the CEO of Dark Aether Operations. He tells us the story about how he heard the Bonus Room recording back when it was covered by James 315 in February on Minerbumping, and decided to take sohkar under his wing. sohkar was in his corp for nearly 3 weeks until being removed for his own protection. sohkar is free to rejoin whenever he thinks he'll be safe again in a player corp.
ah... Hey all of those people all nice ans self-righteous about how they would never play a game that allows stuff like this.
It was first covered in FEB. Its nearly APRIL PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
534
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Posted - 2014.03.31 22:53:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Ssabat Thraxx wrote: Where do I get MY get out of jail free card?
Since you pay the jail every month for the privilege of being locked up, I'd think the answer is fairly obvious. Mr Epeen
Funny you feel that way and are defending them. Id think someone with this viewpoint would be UNHAPPY about it.
Unless your like that sort of thing PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
148
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Posted - 2014.03.31 22:53:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Ssabat Thraxx wrote: Where do I get MY get out of jail free card?
Since you pay the jail every month for the privilege of being locked up, I'd think the answer is fairly obvious. Mr Epeen
What's obvious is you didn't get the analogy. Apparently some people can blatantly break the rules and get away with it, such as our "victim" making racist statements and RL death threats but not facing any consequences. Other people can fudge around merely in a grey area and get banned.
I seek immunity from prosecution, like that guy got. How do I get it?
BEING AN ******* IS NOT A CRIME! I support un-banning Erotica1
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4811
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Posted - 2014.03.31 23:07:00 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Ssabat Thraxx wrote: Where do I get MY get out of jail free card?
Since you pay the jail every month for the privilege of being locked up, I'd think the answer is fairly obvious. Mr Epeen What's obvious is you didn't get the analogy. Apparently some people can blatantly break the rules and get away with it, such as our "victim" making racist statements and RL death threats but not facing any consequences. Other people can fudge around merely in a grey area and get banned. I seek immunity from prosecution, like that guy got. How do I get it?
I get the analogy. It's stupid and doesn't deserve a serious response. (and Mr Epeen gets his fourth post deleted for the day.)
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
534
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Posted - 2014.03.31 23:08:00 -
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Quote:1:12 Joined by several of Erotica 1's escrow agents. I asked a lot of questions about their involvement in the bonus room, how the bonus room works, it's history, and some examples of other bonus rooms that have taken place. The losers, and the very few winners were discussed. One winner was actually paid out, others were not paid, but were then invited in on the con after where many made their money back.
Average time of a bonus room was 5 hours long. (!!) The longest was 12 hours. (!!!) sohkar's reaction in the bonus room, they claimed, was by far the worst they had ever seen. They state that maybe 1 in 15 bonus room players have actually gotten to the point of rage, most figure the scam out and simply quit.
To understand the bonus room, and it's history, this is a good section to listen to, but keep in mind the story is told by the people who were part of the con.
Huh this is actually a good point. Apparently, you can do the bonus room thing upwards of 12 hours but as long as you dont catch someone with anger issues you wont get banned as that seems to be a "1 in 15" situation PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
149
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Posted - 2014.03.31 23:10:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:I get the analogy. It's stupid and doesn't deserve a serious response. (and Mr Epeen gets his fourth post deleted for the day.) Mr Epeen
How is it stupid to point out the double standard? One guy broke the rules and got banned, another guy broke the rules (and in a more egregious way, imho) and didn't. You dont see that as hypocritical or selective enforcement?
Not trolling, I am honestly dumbfounded here. Why do you feel that shouldn't be taken seriously?
BEING AN ******* IS NOT A CRIME! I support un-banning Erotica1
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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
536
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Posted - 2014.03.31 23:16:00 -
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Quote:1:46 The discussion shifts from the bonus room, to Ripard Teg's crusade against not only the bonus room, but all forms of naughty behavior in Eve.
funny, I dont know how big a douche this guy was with his self imposed crusade...
And people think the Goons are the ones that want to kill the game -.-
No, THIS guy wants to kill the game. An you know what? I think he's too stupid to see it -.- PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
536
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Posted - 2014.03.31 23:19:00 -
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Again for the moral high ground guys that wont play a game that will allow this behavior:
Quote:2:06 Back to Eve. Allegedly CCP has known about the bonus room since at least November. sohkar's bonus room was well publicized on Minerbumping.com a month ago, was not a secret. The victim says he was over it, and got on with his life. 1 month later, CCP suddenly "gives fucks" when Ripard Teg whips less than 500 people into a frenzy on a threadnought on Eve-O.
Can I get your stuff guys? Since youll be leaving now.
Quote:2:10 I address CCP directly. What have you opened up with this action of banning a player for out of game actions? I talk about some of the things people have done outside of game in relation to The FunkyBacon Show. The difference between us and the bonus room? We pay out at the end for what we say will, and most of the things people do are their own ideas. It is suggested at one point that someone should make a thread somewhere of the worst things people have done outside of Eve. Maybe it would make Ripard Teg pee his pants to learn some of the things that have happened outside of Eve that were in some way tied to the game.
I wanna read this XD PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
150
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Posted - 2014.03.31 23:21:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Quote:1:46 The discussion shifts from the bonus room, to Ripard Teg's crusade against not only the bonus room, but all forms of naughty behavior in Eve. funny, I dont know how big a douche this guy was with his self imposed crusade... And people think the Goons are the ones that want to kill the game -.- No, THIS guy wants to kill the game. An you know what? I think he's too stupid to see it -.-
I think he just scored a minor victory. You gotta "play nice" now.
But apparently you can still use racial slurs and threaten to kill ppl irl.
BEING AN ******* IS NOT A CRIME! I support un-banning Erotica1
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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
536
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Posted - 2014.03.31 23:22:00 -
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Quote:2:21 Joined by an operator who was IN the bonus room with sohkar. The question is asked "Do you feel that based on Erotica 1's ban, you also deserve to be banned?" All Bonus Room escrow agents present declare unanimously that if Erotica 1 has been banned because of his involvement in the Bonus Room, then they ALL deserve to be banned, no question.
What horrifying sociopathic behavior (did you know the inability to form friends and attachments is the hallmark of that disorder?) PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
537
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Posted - 2014.03.31 23:26:00 -
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Quote:2:49 Sohkar joins us. If you listen to no other part of this recording, listen to this part moving forward. As far as I'm concerned, the opinions of the person on the receiving end of this scam which was apparently the reason for CCP to step into the metagame, should count most, even over the voices of those who claim to be "defending" him. Interesting things were said. Sohkar was never contacted by Ripard Teg who claimed to owe it to the victim to understand his story. Sohkar states that Ripard's coverage of his bonus room has done more harm to him than good in the game. Quote:He never petitioned Erotica 1, does not believe Erotica 1 should be banned, and comes out and says that he should technically be banned for the things he said himself while raging at E1 and his associates if the recording is considered legit evidence for TOS violations. Quote:Sohkar rejects the claims that he was tortured. He got angry. He points out that after Ripard's blog post, he tried to reach out and talk to Ripard and sent him an eve-mail. Ripard has still not responded to him after several days. It's thought at this point that Ripard Teg doesn't care about the victim at all, and is simply trying to push his anti scamming agenda with inflamatory language and rhetoric, and trying to put out the worst examples he can with no regard to how this will affect even the victims involved.
HO
LEE
****
WOW.... Guys CCP ****** up O.o Wonder if Sokhar can petition to get him unbanned?
Quote:This keeps going back to E1 specifically, and that's one of the problems I have here Mynnna. My stance here has little do do with E1, and everything to do with the next step after this, and the next step after that. If this is where it stops, and the line is CLEARLY drawn here, that's CCPs prerogative. I'm not doing a "Free E1 campaign". He's banned, there's no reversal coming nor would I ask for one.
Yeah... clearly... uh huh
Quote:For 11 years CCP has not acted against any player when CCP logs have shown no wrong doing. That has now changed.
Let me toss you a loaded question. Let's say we're chatting in Eve, and I say "Hey Mynnna, my hands are getting tired. Let's pop over to my TS3 server and talk about this."
I'm in there with you, maybe a couple other people. I make a recording of it, and then put it up on soundcloud. People listen to it and are outraged at you for what transpired, I blog about it, a threadnought appears.
But here's the rub: You come out on the forums in the threadnought afterwards and claim you were framed. "That's not me," you say. Other people claiming to be on the server at the time say it WAS you. They were there. Eve logs show us chatting amicably, and me suggesting we move to TS3. CCP has no way to confirm that the TS3 conversation on soundcloud is the one that happened at that time. They can't confirm I didn't doctor the recording. But it sounds like you. You didn't think to record the session yourself, so you have nothing but your word that you didn't do whatever it is we say you did.
Now, you're part of Goonswarm, so I would imagine your friends would have your back in this, and the counter smear could get ugly and result in nothing more than a locked thread, some warnings are given and nothing more comes of it. Maybe I get DDOSed a few times, obviously by one of your fellows, but I can't prove who it was so nothing happens there either.
Suppose for a minute though that you don't have many friends in Eve. Everyone has already made up their mind that you're guilty. Your supporters in that threadnought are few and far between. What then?
THAT is where I'm afraid we're going here, and ANY steps taken in that general direction are what I'm opposed to. -DJ FunkyBacon
Holy ****, that WAS a good read PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
539
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Posted - 2014.03.31 23:48:00 -
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Holy ****, that WAS a good read
Awww I dont see any argument anymore
XD
Sucks when you find out your side of the argument was wrong (especially when the victim says so) doesnt it?
Then we have Malcanis starting a thread (who, according to another poster was backing Erotic 1 in the first place). Man you just keep picking the wrong side PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5556
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Posted - 2014.03.31 23:49:00 -
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Am I too late? Has this thread already been side tracked into complete uselessness?
For what it's worth, obviously #2.
Option 3 is impractical, on several different levels.
Option 1 would eventually kill EVE.
This is a game about social interaction. Putting it under a microscope with no room for personal judgement or ability to take the situation into account on CCP's part would ultimately turn the game into a bad mining simulator... robbing it of the rich chaos that has kept it thriving for over 10 years.
Hell, you wouldn't even be able to "shudder" role play a villain (let alone actually act like one) without risking the ban hammer... that's how pathetic this course of action would be.
If I wanted to play a safe vanilla game, where I'm wrapped in the warm snuggely cocoon (straight jacket) of mindless completely safe social interaction and controlled game play I'd go play one of the hundreds available to me... and if you thought about it for more than 2 seconds you'd realize that if CCP did go that route, you'd be gone within 3 months. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2416
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Posted - 2014.03.31 23:52:00 -
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Something between 2 and 3, closer to 2.
CCP should intervene against real life threats of physical violence, implied and actual serious harrassment. CCP should also intervene where people don't do this themselves, but actively incite others to do so. Examples: Mitten's fanfest outburst (inciting serious RL harassment), the threats of RL physical violence aimed at Erotica 1 this week, and people posting the worst racial slurs in in-game chat.
CCP should not intervene against things that are nasty but not out-of-game harassment, except perhaps with a 'Stop this or we'll ban you'.
Consistency is important. CCP must not be arbitrary or change enforcement in response to hyperbolic accusations using words like 'torture'. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 --áPsychotic Monk for CSM! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1026
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Posted - 2014.03.31 23:53:00 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Not trolling, I am honestly dumbfounded here. Why do you feel that shouldn't be taken seriously? The short answer is that the outcome matched what he thought should be done.
In effect, CCP's decision validated his view of the situation and in that case, there is no need to think critically about the issue any further. He has moved on already, content that the World is all ok irrespective of any other views of the situation. . -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
539
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Posted - 2014.03.31 23:54:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Am I too late? Has this thread already been side tracked into complete uselessness?
This thread was useless to start with. Just like the CSM.
Look at the way the OP is written for proof of that. PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game |
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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
539
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Posted - 2014.03.31 23:56:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Not trolling, I am honestly dumbfounded here. Why do you feel that shouldn't be taken seriously? The short answer is that the outcome matched what he thought should be done. In effect, CCP's decision validated his view of the situation and in that case, there is no need to think critically about the issue any further. He has moved on already, content that the World is all ok irrespective of any other views of the situation.
and yer you havent, elsewise you wouldnt BE here.
so yeah, actions > words PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5556
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Posted - 2014.03.31 23:56:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Am I too late? Has this thread already been side tracked into complete uselessness?
This thread was useless to start with. Just like the CSM. Look at the way the OP is written for proof of that. Heh, I don't think Malcanis ever claimed to be completely unbiased.
Nor should he be, considering how ridiculous this situation has become. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
539
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Posted - 2014.03.31 23:59:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Am I too late? Has this thread already been side tracked into complete uselessness?
This thread was useless to start with. Just like the CSM. Look at the way the OP is written for proof of that. Heh, I don't think Malcanis ever claimed to be completely unbiased. Nor should he be, considering how ridiculous this situation started out as
fixed that for you. Read the bits from that article I quoted. Especially the part where the victim says he wasnt tortured and disagrees with CCP.
Or are we gonna claim Stockholm's? PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game |
Winchester Steele
777
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Posted - 2014.04.01 00:00:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:So if you gank them for lulz then dont talk, youre good lol
Who specifically said you can't gank in game? Quote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Yes, that seems to be the clear message here. Don't do things for the pure sake of emotional provocation.
Edit: Banning outright would depend on severity, but discipline in some fashion is entirely justified.
keep up So basically, a nobody. Days later, you're still here posting, and now you're arguing with nobodies.
Says the nobody. Tyberius is a long time goodposter on Eve-o, although haven't seen him around much lately.
You on the other hand? I think maaybe I once saw the anime you stole your name from, when I was a little kid and watched that kind of silly ****.
Btw bud, do I need to remind you that you are also still in this thread arguing with "nobodies".
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1028
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Posted - 2014.04.01 00:01:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:and yer you havent, elsewise you wouldnt BE here.
so yeah, actions > words Most of my energy on this now is being directed in game as I still disagree strongly with the way Ripard went about what he did and believe that his actions did a lot to enflame the issue from the start.
However, no words will result in him acknowledging this, so I'm taking that in game to ensure that everything he finds bad about the game lives on stronger than ever. Until yesterday I had never ganked anyone in highsec and didn't even really play much in highsec. As a result, another character of mine has started to broaden my experience in the game. . -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Winchester Steele
777
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Posted - 2014.04.01 00:04:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Sentamon wrote:http://funkybacon.blogspot.ca/2014/03/e1sohkar-getting-full-story-in-35-hours.html?showComment=1396230831597
Interviews with the players involved... worth a reading. I hope he read the wind right or he'll be at the bottom of the vote count for his CSM bid. Mr Epeen
I know this may be hard for someone like you to understand, but I'm going to try anyhow:
Not everyone is a bottomfeeder. Some people actually have conviction.
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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
539
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Posted - 2014.04.01 00:05:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:and yer you havent, elsewise you wouldnt BE here.
so yeah, actions > words Most of my energy on this now is being directed in game as I still disagree strongly with the way Ripard went about what he did and believe that his actions did a lot to enflame the issue from the start. However, no words will result in him acknowledging this, so I'm taking that in game to ensure that everything he finds bad about the game lives on stronger than ever. Until yesterday I had never ganked anyone in highsec and didn't even really play much in highsec. As a result, another character of mine has started to broaden my experience in the game.
Anyone still arguing the other side of this should really look at
Quote:2:49 Sohkar joins us. If you listen to no other part of this recording, listen to this part moving forward. As far as I'm concerned, the opinions of the person on the receiving end of this scam which was apparently the reason for CCP to step into the metagame, should count most, even over the voices of those who claim to be "defending" him.
Interesting things were said. Sohkar was never contacted by Ripard Teg who claimed to owe it to the victim to understand his story. Sohkar states that Ripard's coverage of his bonus room has done more harm to him than good in the game.
He never petitioned Erotica 1, does not believe Erotica 1 should be banned, and comes out and says that he should technically be banned for the things he said himself while raging at E1 and his associates if the recording is considered legit evidence for TOS violations.
Sohkar rejects the claims that he was tortured.
He got angry. He points out that after Ripard's blog post, he tried to reach out and talk to Ripard and sent him an eve-mail. Ripard has still not responded to him after several days. It's thought at this point that Ripard Teg doesn't care about the victim at all, and is simply trying to push his anti scamming agenda with inflamatory language and rhetoric, and trying to put out the worst examples he can with no regard to how this will affect even the victims involved. PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game |
Ranger 1
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Posted - 2014.04.01 00:08:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Am I too late? Has this thread already been side tracked into complete uselessness?
This thread was useless to start with. Just like the CSM. Look at the way the OP is written for proof of that. Heh, I don't think Malcanis ever claimed to be completely unbiased. Nor should he be, considering how ridiculous this situation started out as fixed that for you. Read the bits from that article I quoted. Especially the part where the victim says he wasnt tortured and disagrees with CCP. Or are we gonna claim Stockholm's? You probably lost track of my opinion in the "other" thread, but I'm of the opinion that Sohkar was there because he wanted to be there... and I personally would not have banned E1 out right. At most I would have issued a warning with a firm official statement that he was going a bit too far, to stop when the target was obviously getting distressed or a ban would be forthcoming. E1 is an adult, and if he insisted on seeing how far he could push things then the ban would be completely on his head.
However, I also understand that CCP needs to be able to use it's own discretion in matters like this. I may not like every decision they make, but I fully support their right to do so.
Indeed, it is a necessity. Otherwise you have a situation where they either have no control at all to police their own game, or it goes the other direction and they have to attempt the very impractical task of clamping down on everyone and everything that adds a mature flavor to this game (socially speaking).
I think they've been pretty fair so far, so I'm backing their decision. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Antisocial Malkavian
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Posted - 2014.04.01 00:10:00 -
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Winchester Steele wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Sentamon wrote:http://funkybacon.blogspot.ca/2014/03/e1sohkar-getting-full-story-in-35-hours.html?showComment=1396230831597
Interviews with the players involved... worth a reading. I hope he read the wind right or he'll be at the bottom of the vote count for his CSM bid. Mr Epeen I know this may be hard for someone like you to understand, but I'm going to try anyhow: Not everyone is a bottomfeeder. Some people actually have conviction.
UNfortionately ripard is one of them -.- PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game |
Winchester Steele
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Posted - 2014.04.01 00:10:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:and yer you havent, elsewise you wouldnt BE here.
so yeah, actions > words Most of my energy on this now is being directed in game as I still disagree strongly with the way Ripard went about what he did and believe that his actions did a lot to enflame the issue from the start. However, no words will result in him acknowledging this, so I'm taking that in game to ensure that everything he finds bad about the game lives on stronger than ever. Until yesterday I had never ganked anyone in highsec and didn't even really play much in highsec. As a result, another character of mine has started to broaden my experience in the game. Anyone still arguing the other side of this should really look at Quote:2:49 Sohkar joins us. If you listen to no other part of this recording, listen to this part moving forward. As far as I'm concerned, the opinions of the person on the receiving end of this scam which was apparently the reason for CCP to step into the metagame, should count most, even over the voices of those who claim to be "defending" him.
Interesting things were said. Sohkar was never contacted by Ripard Teg who claimed to owe it to the victim to understand his story. Sohkar states that Ripard's coverage of his bonus room has done more harm to him than good in the game.
He never petitioned Erotica 1, does not believe Erotica 1 should be banned, and comes out and says that he should technically be banned for the things he said himself while raging at E1 and his associates if the recording is considered legit evidence for TOS violations.
Sohkar rejects the claims that he was tortured.
He got angry. He points out that after Ripard's blog post, he tried to reach out and talk to Ripard and sent him an eve-mail. Ripard has still not responded to him after several days. It's thought at this point that Ripard Teg doesn't care about the victim at all, and is simply trying to push his anti scamming agenda with inflamatory language and rhetoric, and trying to put out the worst examples he can with no regard to how this will affect even the victims involved.
You will never convince these idiots that they are wrong. It is a waste of time. Listen to them: even after the 'victim' himself says he was neither a victim nor tortured these morons STILL insist that he was. Only now he is too dumb to know he was? What lol?
I'm with Scipio. I will be taking my vengeance out on carebears in hi-sec instead of wasting my breath on these PC rejects.
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