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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
540
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Posted - 2014.04.02 10:25:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Why hasnt this been moved to Jita Speakers Corner like any other post would have. Why has this not been locked, it is the same few folk saying the same thing over and over again.
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Balshem Rozenzweig
Akademia Milicyjna The North is Coming
36
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Posted - 2014.04.02 10:29:00 -
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Danalee wrote:Malcanis wrote: You are correct that CCP cannot control out of game comms. They can however decline to do business with people who persistently harrass or abuse their customers if & when they become aware of such activity.
They can decline to do business with anyone they see fit. Agreed. If it's a good idea to do so, don't know. If they can just assume someone harrasses or abuses their customers and act on a one-sided version of these events by a third party. Pretty sure they can and did but it is stupid beyond comprehension. Malcanis wrote: NOTHING has changed in the way that people interact in game. NOTHING will as a result of this issue or the increasingly tedious refusal to accept reality on the part of some.
You keep saying that but clearly things HAVE changed. Someone was banned for scamming in game and asking to sing songs out of the game. Anyhow, I know you won't reply or if you do, just troll a bit; A warning would have fixed everything before it could occur. Can you agree that in all cases past, present and future, warning someone who crosses a hidden boundary is the most common sense, level-headed, smart thing to do? D.
Precisely. I too feel that "be the villain" and then permaban is weird. Erotica1 should have been warned or banned for 3 days with threat of permaban if he goes on with bonus rounds. He would have lost the interest in his char anyway but at least it would be a decent attempt to normalize the situation.
Singature Radius 48 m |
Winchester Steele
844
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Posted - 2014.04.02 10:51:00 -
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Malcanis wrote: You are correct that CCP cannot control out of game comms. They can however decline to do business with people who persistently harrass or abuse their customers if & when they become aware of such activity.
NOTHING has changed in the way that people interact in game. NOTHING will as a result of this issue or the increasingly tedious refusal to accept reality on the part of some.
You can copy pasta the party line till your blue in the face CSM Malcanis. A whole pile of people are telling you that something has changed for them. There's a principle that people feel has been violated, and no amount of condescension or abuse from you is going to change that.
Just because you say it's so, doesn't make it so.
Also, if you are gonna honestly tell me that nothing the detractors have said has any merit, well then, you are an even more useless CSM then you've come off as in this thread. ... |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1086
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Posted - 2014.04.02 11:11:00 -
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Thread temporarily locked for some thorough cleaning. This thread was started with a simple straightforward question, all posts not answering that question in a normal and civil manner will be regarded as being off topic. Please feel free to discuss the matter in the official and stickied thread. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
589
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Posted - 2014.04.03 01:47:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:In short...
1. Erotica 1 was 'mean' out of game to another EvE player Sohkar.
2. Sohkar did not file criminal charges of harassment et al against Erotica 1, so real world harassment has not been proven in law. Erotica 1 hasn't been convicted of anything. More telling is that Sohkar has since made it clear he does not feel Erotica 1 harrassed him.
3. Additionally, it should be noted Dominatrixes in my area charge $140 for 1/2 of willing S&M or BDSM abuse, while Erotica 1 charged Sohkar nothing. Submissives in these scenarios typically use 'safe words' to end abusive play at their choosing. Sohkar had a teamspeak disconnect button. He didn't press it.
4. Ripard Teg however felt Sohkar was 'abused', 'harassed' and 'tortured' in real life, and in his holy estimation of morality that Erotica 1 should be removed from taking part in in-game EvE gameplay.
5. Carebears and pansies joined Ripard Teg's witchhunt,
6. CCP did more 'research', six months after the event, and banned Erotica 1 from EvE online.
Now despite CCP not saying why exactly Erotica 1 was banned, and folks like Malcanis saying 'you dont have the full information', I think we have all the information we need...
By all appearances Erotica 1 was not banned because of a violation of TOS or EULA that CCP can honestly defend (or they would perhaps quote it), he appears to have been banned based on moral hand wringing by pansies and the fact people in power dont like him or his actions.
Welcome to the 'sandbox'. Be the villian...until someones feelings get hurt, then you are screwed.
p.s. Given Ripard Teg may have actually made real-world accusations about Erotica 1's 'torture', 'harassment' and 'abuse' of Sohkar, I would find it entertaining indeed if Erotica 1 now successfully sued Ripard for publishing slanderous libel against him. For surely if Erotica 1's actions outside of the game were real acts of 'torture', 'harassment' etc, then equally Ripards comments are actionable for libel and slander if said acts weren't provable true in court?
F
Said elsewhere, applied here as well PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game http://i.imgur.com/RX8oBRN.jpg |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
589
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Posted - 2014.04.03 02:07:00 -
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Louis Robichaud wrote:#2
I don't want #1 because we are adults, and a bit of trash talk shouldn't deserve banning.
We, as a player base and as a species, can't handle #3. Clearly there is a small portion of players who revel in cruelty. They must be kept in check. It is good that ccp has shown that there is a line.
Why do people keep picking a number? The OP was a troll post, how cant you realize that lol
Quote:4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
Of which the OP does frequently but yeah PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game http://i.imgur.com/RX8oBRN.jpg |
Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
82
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Posted - 2014.04.03 03:21:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Quote:4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. Of which the OP does frequently but yeah
Quoted for truth. Plus isn't there a thread for this in GD?
I say go for option 2. Most of us don't need CCP baby-sitting us in game or our coms which is out side the game.
Erotica 1: Scams someone-á-á Ripard: Makes inflamatory blog post that incites eve community and the MMO community-á Sohkar: I wasn't harrased-á-á-á-áCCP: Banned-á-á-á Moral of this story? If you don't want to get banned, don't **** off CSM |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
258
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Posted - 2014.04.03 04:04:00 -
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Asia Leigh wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Quote:4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. Of which the OP does frequently but yeah Quoted for truth. Plus isn't there a thread for this in GD? I say go for option 2. Most of us don't need CCP baby-sitting us in game or our coms which is out side the game.
QFT
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Danalee
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
895
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Posted - 2014.04.03 05:29:00 -
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WOW.
Just wow.
D.
HTFU, in moderation ofcourse. If perchance the above statement has rustled a CSM's jimmies, I respectfully beg of him/her not to blog about it nor pressurize CCP to ban me. |
Danalee
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
895
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Posted - 2014.04.03 05:40:00 -
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Your options are flawed, your bias very clear.
Stop being stupid and concede knee-jerk reactions to personnal crusades of CSM members are NOT good policy. Keep everything as is and communicate with players while they explore the unique selling point of your game; Being the villain. Give them one chance to cross the invisible line, warn them, reel them back in. If they continue after that. Make them play WOW or whatever.
Stop with the EA/Blizzard/Whatever bullcrap before you loose everything you've been working for the last 10 years.
D.
INB4 TEARS TROLLOLOLOLOOOOO! HTFU, in moderation ofcourse. If perchance the above statement has rustled a CSM's jimmies, I respectfully beg of him/her not to blog about it nor pressurize CCP to ban me. |
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Loko Crackhead
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2014.04.03 06:40:00 -
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I'm late at the party but ... 2. 1 is for Space Fairies Online, 3 is for .... not for a humans composed player base.
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
269
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Posted - 2014.04.03 06:43:00 -
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Danalee wrote:Your options are flawed, your bias very clear. Stop being stupid and concede knee-jerk reactions to personnal crusades of CSM members are NOT good policy. Keep everything as is and communicate with players while they explore the unique selling point of your game; Being the villain. Give them one chance to cross the invisible line, warn them, reel them back in. If they continue after that. Make them play WOW or whatever. Stop with the EA/Blizzard/Whatever bullcrap before you loose everything you've been working for the last 10 years. I could believe there has been a debate and there was a breach of EULA and ripard's terrible blog post wasn't involved if anyone at any point in time had bothered to communicate with the perceived perpetrator and victim before, during or after the 'facts'. Not CCP nor CSM did anything of the sort. Heck even the reason specified for banning Erotica 1 = blank. No inspiration? Morale crusaders are hardly ever inspired. D. INB4 TEARS TROLLOLOLOLOOOOO!
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Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Tyrant Scorn
167
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Posted - 2014.04.03 09:49:00 -
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I've held out to answer this question but I feel none of the 3 options speak to me.
It is very hard to draw a line at the lowest level possible because cursing or just hostile language in general can be taken in different ways by different people. What is offensive for one person might not be offensive for others.
I do believe CCP should be able to take action outside of just the game and that should include TeamSpeak or Mumble or any other 3rd party tool. Where this line has to be drawn, I would not know... and you will run into problems with providing evidence of abuse. Does this mean we will have to record all of our TeamSpeak conversations now, just incase ? Does this mean we have to screenshot all of our twitter and forum messages, incase someone decides to remove it ?
I have no idea how CCP should act in the future but I do know that this community has seen extreme cases more often. Online communities are becoming more harsh and more offensive and the understanding that there are real people on the other end is getting thinner and thinner.
I think the "Harden The F*ck Up" and the "Here's A Rubik's Cube, Go F*ck Yourself" sales pitch is outdated and I think we should consider taking a more mature approach. The gaming market and society is getting more judgmental about these things. Cyber Bullying is a hot topic because of internet gaming... I feel the two quotes I mentioned above should make way for a more mature and a more acceptable buzzwords / sales pitch... or what ever you wanna call it. Host at Legacy Of A Capsuleer Podcast www.legacyofacapsuleer.com |
Silvara Nocturn
Nocturn Industries
69
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Posted - 2014.04.03 12:32:00 -
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Well this poll isn't leading what so ever. The only option that is remotely viable for Eve Online is number 2. Except that expecting every one to behave is wishful thinking and has no basis in reality. Without clear definitions of what is allowed and what isn't people will just keep pushing it as far as they can or feel prohibited to push harder because they fear retaliation.
CCP needs to stop hiding under the carpet. If they want the cold hard universe, they need to define it like that. |
Bloemkoolsaus
Viperfleet Inc. Disavowed.
145
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:27:00 -
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#2 |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4251
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:25:00 -
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There sure is still a lot of #2 in this troll-bait thread. Even after it was reduced to 1/6 of its original size. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Danalee
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
902
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Posted - 2014.04.03 14:57:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:There sure is still a lot of #2 in this troll-bait thread. Even after it was reduced to 1/6 of its original size.
Wait... Everyone is doing number two in Malcanis' thread?
That's... creepy.
D.
HTFU, in moderation ofcourse. If perchance the above statement has rustled a CSM's jimmies, I respectfully beg of him/her not to blog about it nor pressurize CCP to ban me. |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
602
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Posted - 2014.04.04 02:38:00 -
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Asia Leigh wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Quote:4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. Of which the OP does frequently but yeah Quoted for truth. Plus isn't there a thread for this in GD? I say go for option 2. Most of us don't need CCP baby-sitting us in game or our coms which is out side the game.
If it wasnt a CSM, the post would have been locked with a comment pointing to the official thread on this before the first page was done, much less the sixtieth. (as it was at sixty one last I saw)
It is kind of interesting most of the non 2 answers are gone now PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game http://i.imgur.com/RX8oBRN.jpg |
Stacy Knox
The CheRookies
30
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Posted - 2014.04.04 10:27:00 -
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Danalee wrote:Your options are flawed, your bias very clear. Stop being stupid and concede knee-jerk reactions to personnal crusades of CSM members are NOT good policy. Keep everything as is and communicate with players while they explore the unique selling point of your game; Being the villain. Give them one chance to cross the invisible line, warn them, reel them back in. If they continue after that. Make them play WOW or whatever. Stop with the EA/Blizzard/Whatever bullcrap before you loose everything you've been working for the last 10 years. I could believe there has been a debate and there was a breach of EULA and ripard's terrible blog post wasn't involved if anyone at any point in time had bothered to communicate with the perceived perpetrator and victim before, during or after the 'facts'. Not CCP nor CSM did anything of the sort. Heck even the reason specified for banning Erotica 1 = blank. No inspiration? Morale crusaders are hardly ever inspired. D. INB4 TEARS TROLLOLOLOLOOOOO!
Playing eve doasn't make it legal to be a real life criminal |
Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
631
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Posted - 2014.04.04 16:57:00 -
[1550] - Quote
2. Coordination Channel for Consolidated Space Rescue Cooperation Open Letter to the Aidonis Foundation Directorate |
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Danalee
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
910
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Posted - 2014.04.04 19:20:00 -
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Stacy Knox wrote:Danalee wrote:Your options are flawed, your bias very clear.
Stop being stupid and concede knee-jerk reactions to personnal crusades of CSM members are NOT good policy. Keep everything as is and communicate with players while they explore the unique selling point of your game; Being the villain. Give them one chance to cross the invisible line, warn them, reel them back in. If they continue after that. Make them play WOW or whatever.
Stop with the EA/Blizzard/Whatever bullcrap before you loose everything you've been working for the last 10 years. I could believe there has been a debate and there was a breach of EULA and ripard's terrible blog post wasn't involved if anyone at any point in time had bothered to communicate with the perceived perpetrator and victim before, during or after the 'facts'.
Not CCP nor CSM did anything of the sort. Heck even the reason specified for banning Erotica 1 = blank. No inspiration? Morale crusaders are hardly ever inspired.
Playing eve doasn't make it legal to be a real life criminal Pray tell, what are you talking about?! Who said that? And that's what you get from a plea for CCP to communicate with their player base?
D.
HTFU, in moderation ofcourse. If perchance the above statement has rustled a CSM's jimmies, I respectfully beg of him/her not to blog about it nor pressurize CCP to ban me. |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
627
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Posted - 2014.04.04 21:56:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=334475&p=5
lol NOW theyre locking threads and pointing to the official thread.
When the CSM posts the same kind of thread, nooooo
Danalee wrote:Stacy Knox wrote:Danalee wrote:Your options are flawed, your bias very clear.
Stop being stupid and concede knee-jerk reactions to personnal crusades of CSM members are NOT good policy. Keep everything as is and communicate with players while they explore the unique selling point of your game; Being the villain. Give them one chance to cross the invisible line, warn them, reel them back in. If they continue after that. Make them play WOW or whatever.
Stop with the EA/Blizzard/Whatever bullcrap before you loose everything you've been working for the last 10 years. I could believe there has been a debate and there was a breach of EULA and ripard's terrible blog post wasn't involved if anyone at any point in time had bothered to communicate with the perceived perpetrator and victim before, during or after the 'facts'.
Not CCP nor CSM did anything of the sort. Heck even the reason specified for banning Erotica 1 = blank. No inspiration? Morale crusaders are hardly ever inspired.
Playing eve doasn't make it legal to be a real life criminal Pray tell, what are you talking about?! Who said that? And that's what you get from a plea for CCP to communicate with their player base? D.
Most of the things we do in this game WOULD make you a real life criminal but yeah.
But I dont think like that, I have a concept that separates the game with IRL.
IMO Teamspeak isnt IRL but Ill avoid using it in this game now since CCP thinks it is. PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game http://i.imgur.com/RX8oBRN.jpg |
Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
102
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Posted - 2014.04.06 05:43:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
IMO Teamspeak isnt IRL but Ill avoid using it in this game now since CCP thinks it is.
No you got it all wrong... If you want to make racist remarks or RL threats, then by all means make them in TS, after all apparently that isn't against the rules, but if you make someone read the 'code' and sing silly songs, that is against the rules and you get branded as a monstrous sociopath torturer. Erotica 1: Scams someone-á-á Ripard: Makes inflamatory blog post that incites eve community and the MMO community-á Sohkar: I wasn't harrased-á-á-á-áCCP: Banned-á-á-á Moral of this story? If you don't want to get banned, don't **** off CSM |
Endovior
Osmosis Inc Li3 Federation
226
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Posted - 2014.04.06 06:37:00 -
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2
As has been mentioned before in this thread, the other options don't make a whole lot of sense. |
Ka Vin
MinRep Orbital Dockyards and Enterprises
1
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Posted - 2014.04.07 15:50:00 -
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I vote #2 Behave reasonably. behave reasonably badly. behave reasonably well. If you behave extremely nicely you will have lots of lovers and friends. If you behave extremely badly and you cause serious detriment to the play / life of others then you get banned. It's not complicated. It's not the deep philosophical issue of our t imes. At CCP you are all presumably well balanced that you can maintain a career in a competitive industry that requires some basic ability to function at a normal soscietal level. Many of your players are not. You decide. bad guy punishment = ban. your punishment = -1 sub fee. Not the end of the world for anyone, he can go find a new game. you wanna play a good game, behave yourself (within reason) you wanna be an *******, GTFO. HTFU whiners. It's a game , and a way of life. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
15023
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Posted - 2014.04.07 19:48:00 -
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Feedback received. TYVM
1 Kings 12:11
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Danalee
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
911
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Posted - 2014.04.08 07:40:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Feedback received. TYVM
You are welcome! So, care to share what it is you got from this thread? Or is that under some form of NDA / TOP SECRIT thingy? Did everyone vote for the thing you wanted them to vote and not the other, bad options?
D.
HTFU, in moderation ofcourse. If perchance the above statement has rustled a CSM's jimmies, I respectfully beg of him/her not to blog about it nor pressurize CCP to ban me. |
Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
112
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:55:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Feedback received. TYVM
LOL, you actually think anyone would vote for something else? Most leading poll ever
I or anyone else could have easily done this, only difference is my thread would be locked after post 12 not page 12. I guess that's one of the perks of CSM, being allowed to break forum rules? Intresting...
Erotica 1: Scams someone-á-á Ripard: Makes inflamatory blog post that incites eve community and the MMO community-á Sohkar: I wasn't harrased-á-á-á-áCCP: Banned-á-á-á Moral of this story? If you don't want to get banned, don't **** off CSM |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
15114
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Posted - 2014.04.15 21:20:00 -
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Asia Leigh wrote:Malcanis wrote:Feedback received. TYVM LOL, you actually think anyone would vote for something else? Most leading poll ever I or anyone else could have easily done this, only difference is my thread would be locked after post 12 not page 12. I guess that's one of the perks of CSM, being allowed to break forum rules? Intresting...
Fascinating isnt it?
Well, don't forget to vote, because impotent rage is only hilarious whilst it's impotent. Here is my CSM9 endorsement list - vote for diversity of expertise : Ali Aras-á Mangala Solaris-á Mike Azariah-á Steve Ronuken James Arget-á Xander Phoena-á Sugar Kyle-á corbexx-á mynnna-á progodlegend-á Psychotic Monk-á Jayne Fillion
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Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
177
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Posted - 2014.04.16 08:09:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:The answer is simple.
It's quite clear that we also have an extremely intelligent community, even if sometimes the content posted on these forums is to the contrary. I think that playing EVE requires a certain level of intelligence, thickness of skin, and ability to deal with your fellow man in circumstances that are sometimes not to your favor.
However, there's a line as to how severe those circumstances should get, and I'll paraphrase Mynxee by saying that this line needs to be drawn at the point where the alleged victim starts to lose emotional control. We can't set an arbirarty line for this, as this is different for everyone, and every situation. There must be a willingness by those involved to recognise when that point has been reached and realize, with positive community spirit in mind, that they should stop and honor that line with humaine and decent behaviour.
In the same respect, there must also be a level of responsibility held by CCP to ensure that we have the wellbeing of our community and each of our players at the forefront of our minds during the decision making process when an issue like this comes up.
During the Sansha live events and pre-incursion nerf time frame, I was part of a growing community, finding stuff out, how it works and building relationships. During this time, you get exposed to some mental bullshit as well, either directly when the stakes get high or even perceived, because you take stuff personally.
The one rule for these situations everyone uses, is the mental bullshit you are get exposed to worth the potential isk reward ?
In some scenarios this gets out of control, and you will lose emotional control, especially if the reward is not present in the end.
This is were self evaluation should kick in, but if you lack the capabilities or a social safety net you can not disengage from the out of control situation, however there is another circumstance to where you can not disengage; gaming addiction.
Will CCP with the help of CSM provide perhaps a helpful document to it's costumers when to turn of the game off and go take a walk outside ?
Eve rule no.1: The players will make a better version of the game, then CCP initially plans.
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