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Hunters Presence
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Posted - 2006.05.04 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Steppa Interdiction spheres don't count as aggro???
WTF?
yes.. I agree... WTF?
Quote: Why, so 10% of eve can keep making BILLIONS of isk on a bug that ccp will probably take months to fix?
If you don't report it, CCP won't know about it and therefore can't fix it. So don't complain at someone suggesting you should petition.
[FYI: This post was made drunk] -----
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Kyguard
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Posted - 2006.05.04 20:39:00 -
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I love how most of the issues you state here your corp has practiced.
Quote: Eve is full of runners and stab *****s.
Quote: Dropping cyno's next to a station, or just dropping them in systems that nobody goes to makes this technique 99.9% safe. Worst case scenario is you lose your cyno ship. If somebody spots your carrier and you'r not next to a station, you can just log out before they shoot you and you'll be safe. If cyno fields couldn't be dropped in dock range then there might be some merit to your point.
Sure you want to take advantage of these bugs, but it'd go a long way if your corp actually didn't do these things. Just makes you look like a hypocrit.
Nonetheless, I support your ideas.
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Locke DieDrake
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Posted - 2006.05.04 20:44:00 -
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Logging off needs to be adjusted in some way. People that get disconnected should not suffer for it, especially at the hands of an NPC. But players that willfully exit in order to avoid combat are abusing one of the few "friendly" features of eve.
I'd personally like to see all ships stay in space no matter what happens to their pilots. You could use the same emergency warp as now, but not let the ship disapear. It stays in space, it can be probed, therefore there is no benefit to logging out. You'll still die, it's just you won't be there to see it. ___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________ |
0bsession
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Posted - 2006.05.04 20:47:00 -
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SOLUTION: Adapt you meatheads.
Why is it if you guys can't get an easykill in 0.0 you think its a complete unbalance. I'm willing to bet 80% of Eve doesn't even have the skills, assets, or environments to even utilize any of those "whines".
Its your own peers in 0.0 making due on what the game mechanics allow. Btw... it IS called a "CARRIER".
Change nothing... all is fine.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.05.04 20:47:00 -
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Edited by: Nyphur on 04/05/2006 20:50:16
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Nyphur Exploits should be submitted via bug report.
Why, so 10% of eve can keep making BILLIONS of isk on a bug that ccp will probably take months to fix?
Exploits should be submitted via bug report. That's where they go. To report a bug, you file a bug report. To report an exploit, you file a bug report and an exploit petition. Saying on a forum that the devs can contact you for info on it doesn't work. They won't contact you because there's already a system in place for you to report this stuff to them. And god forbid anyone actually post the exploit on the forum. I don't imagine being banned is much fun.
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Hunters Presence
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Posted - 2006.05.04 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: 0bsession SOLUTION: Adapt you meatheads.
Why is it if you guys can't get an easykill in 0.0 you think its a complete unbalance. I'm willing to bet 80% of Eve doesn't even have the skills, assets, or environments to even utilize any of those "whines".
Its your own peers in 0.0 making due on what the game mechanics allow. Btw... it IS called a "CARRIER".
Change nothing... all is fine.
Ah, so you're saying because we can't fly a recent addition to the game, we don't deserve to be able to play the game?
A dumb and illogical argument, especially given I earn a fortune in my Apoc pirating (despite the sec status issues -.-). -----
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Hakera
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Posted - 2006.05.04 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Steppa Interdiction spheres don't count as aggro???
WTF?
rightly so, think about it and the way aggression works, it would be too exploitable to have aggression locks with deployed weapons.
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.05.04 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: 0bsession SOLUTION: Adapt you meatheads.
Why is it if you guys can't get an easykill in 0.0 you think its a complete unbalance. I'm willing to bet 80% of Eve doesn't even have the skills, assets, or environments to even utilize any of those "whines".
Its your own peers in 0.0 making due on what the game mechanics allow. Btw... it IS called a "CARRIER".
Change nothing... all is fine.
I was wondering how long it was going to take for the first alt to come here and defend an out right exploit (abuse) of the game mechanics. And at that simply because he infers somehow the OP is simply after 'easy kills'
Congrats you win the "I'm an alt defending an exploit because I dislike someones playstyle" award. You can claim this prestegious award by posting with a main, and not looking so much like a tard.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.05.04 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Lorth Bah, noone will read up anyways....
Yeah, funny how the big time alliance forum *****s tend to stay out of these threads, probably because they want them to drift down to page 10.
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Hunters Presence
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Posted - 2006.05.04 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth Congrats you win the "I'm an alt defending an exploit because I dislike someones playstyle" award. You can claim this prestegious award by posting with a main, and not looking so much like a tard.
Whilst your point is very agreeable, how does posting with a main and not looking so much like a tard endear someone to the "I'm an alt defending an exploit because I dislike someones playstyle" award ^^ -----
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.05.04 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: Hunters Presence
Originally by: Lorth Congrats you win the "I'm an alt defending an exploit because I dislike someones playstyle" award. You can claim this prestegious award by posting with a main, and not looking so much like a tard.
Whilst your point is very agreeable, how does posting with a main and not looking so much like a tard endear someone to the "I'm an alt defending an exploit because I dislike someones playstyle" award ^^
Because success in eve is based largely apon reputation. And at that a player empowered universe requires people to be responceable for thier actions (and yes the forums count)
Posting with an alt says either one of two things. Either you believe your possition so weak that you can't sand behind it with a charactor who can be regonized. Or that you know full well that there could be ramifications for posting such a thing with your main and are scared to do so.
And in regards to the latter, in a game where such things as theft scamming, murder, spieing, and all sorts of evil things are condoned, and perhaps encoraged, shouldn't players be held accountable for thier actions?
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Keta Min
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Posted - 2006.05.04 21:18:00 -
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OP is 100% correct. 1) to 4) need immediate fixing.
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0bsession
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Posted - 2006.05.04 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: 0bsession SOLUTION: Adapt you meatheads.
Why is it if you guys can't get an easykill in 0.0 you think its a complete unbalance. I'm willing to bet 80% of Eve doesn't even have the skills, assets, or environments to even utilize any of those "whines".
Its your own peers in 0.0 making due on what the game mechanics allow. Btw... it IS called a "CARRIER".
Change nothing... all is fine.
I was wondering how long it was going to take for the first alt to come here and defend an out right exploit (abuse) of the game mechanics. And at that simply because he infers somehow the OP is simply after 'easy kills'
Congrats you win the "I'm an alt defending an exploit because I dislike someones playstyle" award. You can claim this prestegious award by posting with a main, and not looking so much like a tard.
Please... if every person in here posted his/her opinion of an "out right exploit (abuse)" of some game mechanic, we'd all have a fourms of nothing but whines... wait, we already do.
Its quite obvious the OP can't kill like he used to... and that he's frustrated because others have found mechanics to avoid his "abuse". So, alt I may be, but tard I am not. Everyone has their own play style, I could care less about the OPs or your way of life. However, neither you nor him can accept anyone elses. Anything that makes you life more difficult, seems to have to be an exploit. Get over it... adapt.
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0bsession
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Posted - 2006.05.04 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth Posting with an alt says either one of two things. Either you believe your possition so weak that you can't sand behind it with a charactor who can be regonized. Or that you know full well that there could be ramifications for posting such a thing with your main and are scared to do so.
Ahhh, no... posting with an alt says: I'm entitled to an opinion without any repercussions from tart headed ego minded fools that can't handle someone elses thoughts.
Scared? no... protecting myself and more importantly my corp... yes.
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Rutoo
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Posted - 2006.05.04 21:28:00 -
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Hate to say it but a way to get more haulers back out in 0.0 is making carriers/dreads not able to jump into low sec at all they can be build anywhere but when it comes to jumping them to empire don't do it ________________________________ Club Seals Not Sandwichs |
Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.05.04 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kyguard I love how most of the issues you state here your corp has practiced.
Feel free to elaborate.
Originally by: Kyguard
Sure you want to take advantage of these bugs, but it'd go a long way if your corp actually didn't do these things. Just makes you look like a hypocrit.
Nonetheless, I support your ideas.
I have NEVER logged out to save my ship. I have logged to save my pod ONCE in the last 2 years, and I never had a ship at any point in that "engagement".
We don't support logging out to escape death, and we don't support the abuse of game mechanics. When you are in the business of pirating, you have every single logout/exploit/trick in the book used against you on a daily basis, sometimes we *****. Honourable players shouldn't be the only ones without any isk. Nevertheless, you'd be hard pressed to find more than a handful of corps in eve that use less game abusing tactics than us.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.05.04 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur Exploits should be submitted via bug report. That's where they go. To report a bug, you file a bug report. To report an exploit, you file a bug report and an exploit petition. Saying on a forum that the devs can contact you for info on it doesn't work. They won't contact you because there's already a system in place for you to report this stuff to them. And god forbid anyone actually post the exploit on the forum. I don't imagine being banned is much fun.
I'd be genuinely shocked if nobody else has filed this. But I'll go ahead and file it tonight. Either myself or somebody in my corp has filed repeated bug reports for items 1-3, and NOTHING has been said or done in MONTHS. Submitting bug reports is like giving money to charities, it rarely gets to the intended recipient.
Shamis
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Hunters Presence
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Posted - 2006.05.04 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Hunters Presence
Originally by: Lorth Congrats you win the "I'm an alt defending an exploit because I dislike someones playstyle" award. You can claim this prestegious award by posting with a main, and not looking so much like a tard.
Whilst your point is very agreeable, how does posting with a main and not looking so much like a tard endear someone to the "I'm an alt defending an exploit because I dislike someones playstyle" award ^^
Because success in eve is based largely apon reputation. And at that a player empowered universe requires people to be responceable for thier actions (and yes the forums count)
Posting with an alt says either one of two things. Either you believe your possition so weak that you can't sand behind it with a charactor who can be regonized. Or that you know full well that there could be ramifications for posting such a thing with your main and are scared to do so.
And in regards to the latter, in a game where such things as theft scamming, murder, spieing, and all sorts of evil things are condoned, and perhaps encoraged, shouldn't players be held accountable for thier actions?
I was simply referring to the fact if they're posting with their main... how can they get an award that requires them to be on an alt? =] -----
Lead Games Programmer @ Quasit-Rushyo Games | Me! |
Kyguard
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Posted - 2006.05.04 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Nevertheless, you'd be hard pressed to find more than a handful of corps in eve that use less game abusing tactics than us.
That may be so, however your initial post did sound like you just noticed these bugs and issues and stood by watching them happen. And I never mentioned you used logoff tactics, just the wcs and cyno + carrier next to station invulnerability. Nonetheless, lets just drop this and I won't derail any further.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.05.04 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: 0bsession SOLUTION: Adapt you meatheads.
Why is it if you guys can't get an easykill in 0.0 you think its a complete unbalance. I'm willing to bet 80% of Eve doesn't even have the skills, assets, or environments to even utilize any of those "whines".
Its your own peers in 0.0 making due on what the game mechanics allow. Btw... it IS called a "CARRIER".
Change nothing... all is fine.
So carriers should hold more the freighters and BOTH should be 99.9% immune to anything bad happening along the way?
I suppose you think that logging out is a FEATURE of the game. Sort of like an extra low slot right?
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.05.04 21:42:00 -
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2) Note that this works BOTH ways, Shamis. I've seen pilots fire an inderdiction sphere and log. So it's even nastier than you thought.
4) Yea, but fix the hanger to carry packaged ships allready, ffs.
"The Human eye is a marvelous device, with a very little effort it can overlook all but the most glaring injustice" - Quellchrist Falconer |
Kyguard
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Posted - 2006.05.04 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
I'd be genuinely shocked if nobody else has filed this. But I'll go ahead and file it tonight. Either myself or somebody in my corp has filed repeated bug reports for items 1-3, and NOTHING has been said or done in MONTHS. Submitting bug reports is like giving money to charities, it rarely gets to the intended recipient.
Shamis
I think it's safe to say that the more bug reports that are received on the same issue, the more priority it will be given, so just take the time to fill one out..
Perhaps so many people are taking advantage of this that not many are filing the bug reports.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.05.04 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kyguard
That may be so, however your initial post did sound like you just noticed these bugs and issues and stood by watching them happen. And I never mentioned you used logoff tactics, just the wcs and cyno + carrier next to station invulnerability. Nonetheless, lets just drop this and I won't derail any further.
Apology accepted. But I never said that I thought there needed to be any fixing done to cyno next to the station or stabs. Both are well within game mechanics, even if they could use some looking into.
Shamis
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abraheam
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Posted - 2006.05.04 21:45:00 -
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I do agree with these things however I hope to not see any of you guys defend by far the most broke thing in the game....yup thats right tech 2 BP anything distribution.
However, until these things get fixed though here is a tissue. Actually make that a whole box.
disclaimer: I do no practice any of these lame tactics, but I laugh when ever a self rightous pirate complains about them lol.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.05.04 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell 2) Note that this works BOTH ways, Shamis. I've seen pilots fire an inderdiction sphere and log. So it's even nastier than you thought.
No surprises there. Anybody can log, its fun for the whole family. Here's an even better one. My step by step guide to hauling stuff SOLO in 0.0 in a freighter.
1). Jump in. 2) Log out, escape any campers. 3) log in. 4) log out while loading 5) log in again 6) smack the campers 7) insta to next gate with scanner open. If any bubbles or interdicter spheres appear on scanner, log out before coming out of warp. 8) log in, 9) log out 10) log in again 11) smack the lame campers until they give up. Rinse Repeat.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.05.04 21:57:00 -
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Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 04/05/2006 21:57:01
Originally by: abraheam I do agree with these things however I hope to not see any of you guys defend by far the most broke thing in the game....yup thats right tech 2 BP anything distribution.
However, until these things get fixed though here is a tissue. Actually make that a whole box.
disclaimer: I do no practice any of these lame tactics, but I laugh when ever a self rightous pirate complains about them lol.
T2 BPO distribution is clearly broken. But you are clearly lame.
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Sensor Error
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Posted - 2006.05.04 22:04:00 -
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1) Fair enough 2) Fair enough 3) Never experianced it, but yeah, no risk... 4) Rather than putting this on the forums, petition in under exploit and/ or file a bug report. 5) This has been pegged for Kali.
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Plutoinum
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Posted - 2006.05.04 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: 0bsession SOLUTION: Adapt you meatheads.
Why is it if you guys can't get an easykill in 0.0 you think its a complete unbalance. I'm willing to bet 80% of Eve doesn't even have the skills, assets, or environments to even utilize any of those "whines".
Its your own peers in 0.0 making due on what the game mechanics allow. Btw... it IS called a "CARRIER".
Change nothing... all is fine.
Stupid argumentation. Sorry. 0.0 is high rewards at a higher risk. No risk => system broken. I aggree to all points of the OP.
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lordmix
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Posted - 2006.05.04 22:45:00 -
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i agree with shamis on all 5 points, but i dont think ccp will do much about them for along time, if ever. because they wanna keep in carebear's good books and that is done by giving them less risk in every carebear thing they do yay and so on
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.05.04 23:23:00 -
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Edited by: Lorth on 04/05/2006 23:25:15
Originally by: 0bsession
Please... if every person in here posted his/her opinion of an "out right exploit (abuse)" of some game mechanic, we'd all have a fourms of nothing but whines... wait, we already do.
Its quite obvious the OP can't kill like he used to... and that he's frustrated because others have found mechanics to avoid his "abuse". So, alt I may be, but tard I am not. Everyone has their own play style, I could care less about the OPs or your way of life. However, neither you nor him can accept anyone elses. Anything that makes you life more difficult, seems to have to be an exploit. Get over it... adapt.
I'll give you a free hint.
Using out of game methods, that have a direct effect on your charactor ingame, to ensure survival is an exploit. Its a loophole in a system that was supposed to be fixed. There is, and was never indended to be a immunity button in eve. As of right now thats exactly what logging off is, and there is no other way to refer to it other then an exploit, even if its not punishable as such. You know this, I know this, its not a matter of opinion.
As for the rest. Please grow up. My play style your play style, has nothing to do with the actual discussion, untill you made it the focal point of your argument. Adding flames, that are wholely based apon a play style supported by the design of the game is pure and unabashed BS. As for posting with an alt, I'll quote someone who said it better then I did.
Quote: Also, posting with an alt demonstrates a fear of associating your opinions with your character. An in-game persona is just as important as an out-of-game persona. Football players play under their real names and suffer both the positive and negative consequences of their actions whilst playing and whilst discussing their playing. In just the same way, EVE players posting with their mains demonstrate a level of confidence in their own opinions, whilst those posting under alternate credentials ultimately produce the senseless drivel expected of such childish evasion of responsibility.
Oh I missed the ADAPT card. Tell me oh alt, knowledgable in all aspects of the game. How do you adapt and kill a ship that can not be locked? You better come up with something other wise you'll look like a fool for posting such non-sence.
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