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Mulvak
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:35:00 -
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Sinclair you are right on.
I've always felt that way. My boss' would have my head if we were down for more than I committed to. And mind you I need to schedule it a month in advance, it needs to be no more than an hour, and overnight on some holiday.
Game companies aren't exactly run by the same set of rules... these IT managers and techs get to play games all day then really work on patch day.
They must be soft. Planned correctly you can always meet your downtime requirement, even if it means rolling back.
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XxAngelxX
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:35:00 -
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Tbh, Im not overly impressed with CCP's way that they handle upgrades. Instead of giving an unreasonable time for the server to be up by, why not just play it safe and fix a time when it would *definately* be up by. Then you dont get the complaining about deadlines not being met. Secondly, I bet when the server does come up, it will be problematic. Testing code ftw boys!
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Madimus Max
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:35:00 -
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Edited by: Madimus Max on 12/05/2006 05:36:05 So who wants to play hangman?
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4 words. Go. Sig Removed. Please keep sig to with in size limits stated in forum rules. Any questions mail us [email protected] -kaemonn |
Kot'Na'Arr
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:36:00 -
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You know, I can play only some days a week, and usually the normal shut down comes when I'm playing... so I don't like this thing of more time waste... I'm sure the guys are doing their best... but I knew something was going wrong at the very first time I read the extended downtime... call me pessimist.
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Hey You
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:36:00 -
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Originally by: Miganto I didnt flame, seems to be common among the youngsters, get told to stop being immature and they think the other person is wrong..i read what most of you have said, but there is so much complaining..it just makes me sad to read it, and bored..
So many of you guys seem to base your life around EVE....seriously stop it. You'll look back in a few years and realise what a waste those few years were. Go out and do something, revise for those exams, and let the boffins get on and do their job. They arent sitting around doing nothing else they would have no job tomorrow. I'm sure they are trying their best, and if you lose 20 minutes skill time....who gives a shnizzle? its a game.
What flames?
And BTW, the reason we're complaining? Not because they lock the threads. But because they lock the threads, point us here, and tell us nothing about the update, how it's going, ETC. So... ------------------------------
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:36:00 -
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Originally by: Madimus Max So who wants to play hangman?
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Lavintol
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:36:00 -
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Id be happy if theyd just come out and tell us what the hell is going on.
CCP: If the world has exploded, just bloody tell us.
Since your current ETA was 30 min ago, give us a new one.
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Abyss Jack
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:36:00 -
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my skill ran out since 0100, forgot to train a long one :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
so refreshing every 5sec
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Hey You
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: Tripoli
Originally by: Madimus Max So who wants to play hangman?
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A Brr
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:37:00 -
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it seems the server people sneaked out the hosting center without telling anybody that they won't be able to put the server up before monday.... --- The greatest crap CCP designed into EVE: Next generation manufacturing. |
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Rob Rectum
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:37:00 -
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CCP take your time...
Time fix everything in love try that with video game :)
cheers
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Bacchuss
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:37:00 -
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meh, Im just glad I had 3 days skill on
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Bacchuss
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:37:00 -
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meh, Im just glad I had 3 days skill on
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Madimus Max
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:37:00 -
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So who wants to play hangman?
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4 words. Used letters: T Sig Removed. Please keep sig to with in size limits stated in forum rules. Any questions mail us [email protected] -kaemonn |
Cyre Rettoc
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:37:00 -
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I JUST FOUND OUT THE REASON - ITS ACTUALLY GMT 0500 TOMORROW just kidding but yeargh hope it doesnt turn into that...
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Gothikia
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:37:00 -
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Just a friendly bit of information for people who arnt of the technical mind.
What these guys are doing is a complete ***** to pull off. The database itself (which is bloody massive as you can imagine) has to be exported from SQL Server 2000 to SQL Server 2005. Considering the database for eve is probably 45GB+ that takes a little while .
On top of that they'll have the OS to configure, their own applications to tweak (cluster management ect..) then they'll have to test out the changes and test the load on the server to prevent it from being unstable at the weekend.
Have patience, how would you like to be working for almost 24 hours on? Cut 'em some slack, they're doing a good job and I wouldn't expect anything less than that for my sub money. :)
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Kaylon Syi
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mulvak If I was using MS SQL server, I'd not make that public knowledge.
I'd not make it public knowledge that you disaprove of one of the mest mid tier SQL systems for speed there is. MySQL couldn't do what CCP does. Postgresql doesn't have MS support for enterprise customers. DB 2 would be way too slow and Oracle would push our subscriptions up by 7 bucks a pop easy.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
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natashii
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tripoli
Originally by: Madimus Max So who wants to play hangman?
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Philip Stark
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:38:00 -
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Aye I agree they should of tested this on SiSi first. But then agian SiSi isnt even up as its the Chinese Alpha Server. That what a testing server is for, so you can figure out what the bugs are before you impliment it main stream. I do that with my Webpages, i have a box i use as a test server and before i put any code in main stream i test it out on that box first to make sure the code is going to do what i want it to do. SiSi needs to be put back online and let the testing of new hardware go there.
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Tristan
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:38:00 -
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They arent doing a small patch here, its a big hardware and software change... cut some slack, it will be up when its up. unless you would rather it come online and be totaly unstable and have to keep being taken down again? or a rollback needed because everything wasnt checked, double checked and triple checked?
Patience is a real life skill some of you need to learn.
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Nyabinghi
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:38:00 -
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I'm just wanting to at least start my next skill as my last one finished 20 minutes ago...
It's 1:35 Am EST...Do you know where your children are?
P.S. I wonder who'll be the first podded after server up?
I make cool banners for ISK.
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Luther Kincaid
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:38:00 -
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heh, the number of whiney threads/posts is getting silly now OMGZOR! I CAN'T PLAY! TEH WORLD IS GONNA END!
whiners, please follow these steps:
1: get a life 2: read the EULA, CCP don't garauntee 23/7 service 3: take a chill pill and do something else for a while. It's sunny outside atm, go out and enjoy! ------------------------------------------- *sig space for hire,the fee is merely your soul and a buttload of pain*
*warning, this sigspace is fitted with T2 antihijack technology*
Too bad we have Jove technology then, cause this was no match for us - Wrangler I have already won the thread, end of forum boss respawns when Kieron says so - Cortes - - Imaran |
Tripoli
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:38:00 -
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Originally by: Madimus Max So who wants to play hangman?
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Dhin Xar
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:38:00 -
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The gaming industry is where responsible upgrade procedures go to die. |
Raznarok
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:38:00 -
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Originally by: Madimus Max Edited by: Madimus Max on 12/05/2006 05:36:05 So who wants to play hangman?
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4 words. Go.
ROFL!!
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Draquin
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:38:00 -
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Originally by: David Sinclair
Originally by: Draquin Shesh
untill they actualy bother to tell us something dont worry about it.
So, in your philosophy, you don't ask questions, but merely wait for everything to be spoon fed to you?
Quote: and to be honest I find hardware upgrades that go off perfectly the first time to be the exception and not the rule.
Then you don't do enough planning and testing. Sure, plenty do go wrong. That's why every hardware upgrade plan needs a quick rollback option. If you find it's going bad, you go back to the old hardware, get everything up and running, then plan a way to make the upgrade go smoothly.
I'm less mad than I am annoyed, especially at the lack of information. They've had nearly 24 hours to work at this. Instead of answering questions, the moderators are locking posts.
no Im not, but, and realisticly this is a relitivly small Internet service company that from the sound of things has 2 servers that are live in case of backup, and aparently they decided to upgrade one if not both of them. for whatever reason they decided not to boot up the "hotmode backup" (probably because it was offline and they realised that getting it back up would probably take just as long as fixing the problem in the main server in the first place) Literaly for all we know they are running the messadge bords off of the backup on Sisi right now.
Unfortunatly I do have to deal with IT guys and quite often the anser is either When we get the new/replacment (incomprehensible Technobable) When we get the New patch from (insert name of software development company I never heard of because its not microsoft) When we finish the data recovery/system purge from the wipe cause by Someone installing a screensaver from some total duffus or something allong thoes lines, and somehow the anser they always give is "we expect the houston 3 server back up in 1-4 hours but untill then the database is split off of Hous 1 2 and 3, and Den 1 2 3 and 4 and NYC 1 2 3 4 5 and 6 untill we can get it back up, sorry for all everthing being slower than molassas untill then.
And realise that most of the mods ARE NOT EMPLOYEES! they are vounteers, all they can tell us is what they tell them, considering that a large chunk of the developemnt and PR team is actualy at E-3 and not in Europe right now, they probably have no more idea as to what went wrong than the mods do right now Irealyneedtoburnoffthat12packofredbullIjustdrankinonesetting
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Cyre Rettoc
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:38:00 -
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Originally by: Madimus Max Edited by: Madimus Max on 12/05/2006 05:36:05 So who wants to play hangman?
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banton
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:39:00 -
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Just another mushroom wondering what is the status.
Man, I got an upgrade this weekend and if it goes like this I may need a job
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Perpello
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:43:00 -
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Ugh, why did I get up early?
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ArmageddonX
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:43:00 -
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Originally by: Calynus I gave them over 8 hours of "screw up" grace on one account and almost 10 on another. Looks like I am the one getting screwed because I now have 2 accounts with no skill training.
I guess I should have been paranoid and just assumed that they'd completely screw things up and set something like Cruiser V training.
I expect this kind of thing from Blizzard or SOE. Seems like CCP is also setting their sights low. This kind of screw up isn't a good thing when you're plugging at E3 to get new subscriptions, but I guess they don't need me telling them that.
This kind of crap is a great reason to allow a skill queue of even a single skill.
I'm very unimpressed with the lack of updates and the 200% underestimate of downtime (apparently).
Ohh shutup and be patient. Everything will be fine. It's just a GAME,.... sheesh
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