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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.02 13:00:00 -
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I was under the impression there would be bacon?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17636
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Posted - 2014.04.02 13:03:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:I was under the impression there would be bacon?
Paging Tollen Gallen.
Back Bacon (UK style) or Streaky Bacon (US style)?
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Naburi NasNaburi
A Little Peculiar borealis
211
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Posted - 2014.04.02 13:08:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Yeah! Too many gankers and griefers! Seriously, every where I go there's either a flashy red or a flashy yellow in the system!
Why doesn't CCP do anything against this madness???? How do they expect us to enjoy the game when there are so many others deliberately trying to ruin it for us!!!??? WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE SO MEAN!!! LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!!!!
10/10 Made my day *snickers*
Yes hisec has improved. More isk to be made, more idiots to be found.. woops did I say that out loud? |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
5708
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Posted - 2014.04.02 13:15:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Shederov Blood wrote: Not nearly enough. They still need to make the following changes.
* Pods can no longer warp for the duration of criminal timers. * CONCORD kills anyone in highsec with lower than -5 security status, not just those with a criminal timer. * Gate and station sentry guns shoot at suspects. * Suspects can no longer legally return fire when attacked by a non-suspect. * Wardec fees increased to 500mil minimum. * Freighters gain a low slot and 3 rig slots with no other stats changed. * Level 5 missions moved back to highsec.
Not far enough. After that the following changes needs to be made: * Every system in the game will have a helpful Orc or High-Elf who will give you a quest in return for gold coins. Gold coins may be used to dress your avatar in the height of space fashion, or to summon magical space mounts (see below) * All of high sec will be made into 1.0 space, and any player that dare fire on another player will be perma-banned * Spaceships will be done away with and replaced with a single button to summon a magical space mount to take you to the next quest giving Elf. * Combat between two or more players may only take place if all parties sign a waiver, click yes to accept, and do so out of the sight of any other player, as to not encourage violence. * Null-sec and Wormhole space will be done away with and made into 1.0 space. After all, everyone knows that this is a game about sitting AFK somewhere for 23 hours a day mining rocks in order to upgrade their magical space mount. All mission NPC's will be replaced with enemy rocks that must be mined in order to claim victory! Each rock will require 3-5 hours of "combat" in order to defeat. Summon your friends by using your space mounts magical wand and get them in on the fun! (Note: space friends will be replaced by NPC characters) * Every race will receive 47 magical space mining mounts to choose from, each with 1% more yield then the last. All skills that can be used to shoot at another player will be removed.\ * NEW Feature! Offline mode! No longer will a pesky internet connection be required, and you will never have to interact with your fellow players. All players will be simulated by either rocks or magical space mounts. Only then will the game be the proper theme park wonderland it could be, and then will hopefully die in a fire.
Nothing hopeful about it, it WOULD die in a fire, and it wouldn't be because of non-high sec/pro-pvp players elaving, it would be because the 'carebears' left.
Most MMOs coddle the hell out of players and protect their 'feelings'. Every time one of these new MMOs pop up and has any kind of space theme, some of the EVE super-bear community pipes up and claims "omg , XXX game is going to kill EVE because it won't allow sociopaths to sociopath" . Star Trek Online is a great example. It has all the things the super-bears crave (no non-consensual pvp what so ever, a strong anti-griefing policy from the DEVs and PVE (both space and ground based) that doesn't actually suck). You'd think they'd have loved it and you'd never see them again in EVE.
But that's not the case. Many left loudly but returned quietly lol, full of excuses of the game being unpolished or 'not being a sandbox' or 'it's crap because they turned it into free to play'. The reality is, they don't understand themselves enough to know that along with the things they like about EVE, the things they DON'T like ('sociopaths, griefers, gankers ect) add value to their experience as well, by making the things they build and gain have meaning.
Fortunately, most of us who prefer PVE over PVP (the silent majority-bears lol) understand what kind of game we are playing and know ourselves well enough to know WHY we enjoy it. We understand that in our own way, we are also PVPing, but not allowing ourselves to get ganked while we Silence yet another damn Informant.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4228
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Posted - 2014.04.02 13:48:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Doc Fury wrote:I was under the impression there would be bacon?
Paging Tollen Gallen. Back Bacon (UK style) or Streaky Bacon (US style)?
As long as it's not funky, I am none too picky.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
800
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Posted - 2014.04.02 13:59:00 -
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With so many improvements to the sandbox over recent years, its hard to pick my most favorite.
Truly, I can't wait to see what further improvements will be made under the loving guardianship of each years gaggle of nullsec bloc CSM members. That has to be my favorite part, really...watching all of these improvements get made over the years under the watchful eyes of such an auspicious player organization that has such deep insights and personal attachments in hisec mechanics.
p.s. When we do go full-WoW, can I finally get a Hello Kitty rifter?
Would you like to know more? |
One Eyed Runner
Perkone Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2014.04.02 14:11:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:
* Pods can no longer warp for the duration of criminal timers. * CONCORD kills anyone in highsec with lower than -5 security status, not just those with a criminal timer. * Gate and station sentry guns shoot at suspects. * Suspects can no longer legally return fire when attacked by a non-suspect. * Wardec fees increased to 500mil minimum. * Freighters gain a low slot and 3 rig slots with no other stats changed. * Level 5 missions moved back to highsec.
* Caldari police and all gate and station guns IMMEADIATELY attack all pilots with Gallente logos in the background * Vice Versa * Amarr pilots required to learn Pax Amarria by heart or join Blood Raiders and leave High Sec * Warships banned from High Sec * Any weapon or ECM sales either require official armament transporter permit or are banned from high Sec * Four legs good * Two legs Bad * No ducks allowed * Infinate Rice Pudding available at all Piggly Wigglies in the metro area
but but I like ducks!!! I live in Jita so f*ck off |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
235
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Posted - 2014.04.02 14:17:00 -
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WouldYouEver HaveSexWith aGoat wrote:No one cares about flashy reds and yellows. I'm a flashy red and yellow. People care about 30 year olds having the mentality of 16 year olds and bothering other 30 year olds about it.
+1, I agreed. That said, it's kinda made me lol to see this coming from someone with such a name
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Tacomaco
No Taxes just fun
48
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Posted - 2014.04.02 14:21:00 -
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Grunanca wrote: * Concord damage buffed so it cant be tanked anymore, even not with a whole fleet of remote reparing ships. * You no longer get insurance payout for ships that die to CONCORD.
Have cheese with that wine. Miner tears are one thing but ganker tears are a class of their own...
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
235
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Posted - 2014.04.02 14:23:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Shadowlightt wrote:Guys please no flaming i just wonder if any of u think high sec has improved or declined You might have written an op to direct the initial direction of the tread, given how vague it is I'd say you're lucky it's not a thread about bacon already....actually
Ohhh.... dude, I LOVE bacon. Check THIS out!
BACON EXPLOSION
Youre welcome. Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
2995
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Posted - 2014.04.02 14:24:00 -
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Tacomaco wrote:Grunanca wrote: * Concord damage buffed so it cant be tanked anymore, even not with a whole fleet of remote reparing ships. * You no longer get insurance payout for ships that die to CONCORD.
Have cheese with that wine. Miner tears are one thing but ganker tears are a class of their own...
. <------- here is my tear. I dare you to lick it up *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
embrel
BamBam Inc.
169
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Posted - 2014.04.02 14:55:00 -
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Winchester Steele wrote: What? You mean content creators getting pushed out of the game by loud-mouthed carebears,
in & out of the sandbox, it's all about PvP. Just because you didn't notice the PvP-part doesn't mean it wasn't there.
In other words: You're whining coz somebody got ganked. |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2014.04.02 14:58:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Tacomaco wrote:Grunanca wrote: * Concord damage buffed so it cant be tanked anymore, even not with a whole fleet of remote reparing ships. * You no longer get insurance payout for ships that die to CONCORD.
Have cheese with that wine. Miner tears are one thing but ganker tears are a class of their own... . <------- here is my tear. I dare you to lick it up You could have posted that in my thread! :p |
Doireen Kaundur
488
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:02:00 -
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WouldYouEver HaveSexWith aGoat wrote:No one cares about flashy reds and yellows. I'm a flashy red and yellow. People care about 30 year olds having the mentality of 16 year olds and bothering other 30 year olds about it.
Dude, the irony of your commnet is that it was posted by someone with the name WouldYouEver HaveSexWith aGoat.
A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
Salvos Rhoska
969
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:05:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote::p. <------- here is my tear. I dare you to lick it up
MEIN! ------------ |
Hastatus Shmoof Marii
Celestial Horizon Corp.
2
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:07:00 -
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High Sec: Content Created by CCP Null Sec: Content Created by the players
If you don't like it... i hear there's a war going on somewhere in null... why don't people just join it and leave the carebears alone/stop carebearing and go shoot things? |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3004
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:24:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote::p. <------- here is my tear. I dare you to lick it up MINE!
O.o
Solecist Project wrote: You could have posted that in my thread! :p
I dont think you want it now *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:25:00 -
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Hastatus Shmoof Marii wrote:High Sec: Content Created by CCP Null Sec: Content Created by the players
If you don't like it... i hear there's a war going on somewhere in null... why don't people just join it and leave the carebears alone/stop carebearing and go shoot things? That's completely inaccurate and doesn't reflect actual reality in the slightest.
Why do you think this is true? |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
543
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:31:00 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Shadowlightt wrote:Guys please no flaming i just wonder if any of u think high sec has improved or declined You might have written an op to direct the initial direction of the tread, given how vague it is I'd say you're lucky it's not a thread about bacon already....actually Ohhh.... dude, I LOVE bacon. Check THIS out!
BACON EXPLOSIONYoure welcome.
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Grunanca
Doughboys Shadow Cartel
192
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:45:00 -
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Tacomaco wrote:Grunanca wrote: * Concord damage buffed so it cant be tanked anymore, even not with a whole fleet of remote reparing ships. * You no longer get insurance payout for ships that die to CONCORD.
Have cheese with that wine. Miner tears are one thing but ganker tears are a class of their own...
Where did you see me complain? He asked if high sec had changed, and it did. I just pointed out what had changed. Cant care less really. I live in low sec and only visits high sec once every 3 months or so for the occational gank |
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Vol Arm'OOO
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
228
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:47:00 -
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i miss can flipping. I also miss can baiting. I miss my baiting osprey and battle hulks and retrievers. I really miss tricking experienced null sec pilots into concordorikan themselves because they forgot about the high sec aggro rules (curse you safety!). Finally, the thing I miss the most - hijacking orcas that have been misused by carebear miners as giant jet cans - why ccp made it so you couldnt access the fleet hanger anymore unless there is a pilot in the orca I dont know or understand. I don't play, I just fourm warrior. |
masternerdguy
State Protectorate Caldari State
1546
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:49:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Hastatus Shmoof Marii wrote:High Sec: Content Created by CCP Null Sec: Content Created by the players
If you don't like it... i hear there's a war going on somewhere in null... why don't people just join it and leave the carebears alone/stop carebearing and go shoot things? That's completely inaccurate and doesn't reflect actual reality in the slightest. Why do you think this is true?
They feel entitled because they pay a subscription.
Which I find hilarious since all that subscription does is give you access to log in to the server, not to specific content. So the idea that paying your fee makes you entitled to mine in peace or mission is peace is hilarious since you aren't paying to mine and mission, you are paying to log in.
The only thing your subscription guarantees is you can log in to the game. What happens next is unknown. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
2064
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Posted - 2014.04.02 16:18:00 -
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Shadowlightt wrote:Guys please no flaming i just wonder if any of u think high sec has improved or declined Its definitely gotten much worse than it was. This despite people saying otherwise.
I think the issue is destroyers (catalysts) doing 600-700 dps and being extremely cheap and tornado's doing 10k alpha. They're pretty much the go to ships for ganking in high and they're quite imbalanced imo.
Player behavior has gone from relatively decent to Erotica1 type stuff. What would have been frowned upon once is now openly bragged about and defended.
Another aspect is the security status thing. I spent one day sitting on a gate in low in 2004 I think it was and got to -10, then spent the next 3 months in Stain ratting it back up. Now you can get back up very very easily so the incentive not to gank is not there in terms of negative status. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17653
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Posted - 2014.04.02 16:31:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Its definitely gotten much worse than it was. This despite people saying otherwise.
I think the issue is destroyers (catalysts) doing 600-700 dps and being extremely cheap and tornado's doing 10k alpha. They're pretty much the go to ships for ganking in high and they're quite imbalanced imo. How, in your opinion, are they unbalanced? And what do you classify as extremely cheap?
Quote:Player behavior has gone from relatively decent to Erotica1 type stuff. What would have been frowned upon once is now openly bragged about and defended. For once I somewhat agree with you on something, Eroticas bonus room was in bad taste.
Quote:Another aspect is the security status thing. I spent one day sitting on a gate in low in 2004 I think it was and got to -10, then spent the next 3 months in Stain ratting it back up. Now you can get back up very very easily so the incentive not to gank is not there in terms of negative status. You neglect to mention, while it is true that security status is relatively easy to repair, that it comes at an ISK cost; and that many gankers don't bother, they're fine with being -10 in highsec, some even flaunt it.
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Prince Kobol
1631
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Posted - 2014.04.02 16:33:00 -
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Vol Arm'OOO wrote:i miss can flipping. I also miss can baiting. I miss my baiting osprey and battle hulks and retrievers. I really miss tricking experienced null sec pilots into concordorikan themselves because they forgot about the high sec aggro rules (curse you safety!). Finally, the thing I miss the most - hijacking orcas that have been misused by carebear miners as giant jet cans - why ccp made it so you couldnt access the fleet hanger anymore unless there is a pilot in the orca I dont know or understand.
Have to agree, HS was a for more interesting place with can flipping, baiting mission runners, no safety switch etc. |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
55
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Posted - 2014.04.02 16:37:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:they're fine with being -10 in highsec, some even flaunt it. Who would do such a horrible thing!?
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
240
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Posted - 2014.04.02 16:39:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote: Its definitely gotten much worse than it was. This despite people saying otherwise.
I think the issue is destroyers (catalysts) doing 600-700 dps and being extremely cheap and tornado's doing 10k alpha. They're pretty much the go to ships for ganking in high and they're quite imbalanced imo.
It's not as cheap, fast or easy to achieve that as most people assume. I have a suicide ganking alt I made for lulz who (unlike the vast majority of them, I assure you) actually does that 700 DPS (694, to be precise) that everyone moans about and thinks all the gankers can do. It took a very long time to achieve that. You have to have all the relevant gunnery skills to 5, surgical strike, small blaster specialization, etc. It's not like anyone can make the mythical "week old suicide ganker alt" and do that.
As for cheap, again, to reach those numbers you have to T2 fit your cata and in the end the cost runs about 12-15M. Doesnt sound like a lot, but it's a guaranteed loss every time. If you're doing your ganking solo (meaning there's not someone else there to scoop the wreck) the cost adds up.
As for the 10k alpha tornados, I haven't bothered to actually try mine out, so I don't know if this would have been required, but I do know that, again, it took my girl a long time to train into the T2 large guns, and a Nado you're going to lose each and every time ain't cheap, either.
Quote: Another aspect is the security status thing. I spent one day sitting on a gate in low in 2004 I think it was and got to -10, then spent the next 3 months in Stain ratting it back up. Now you can get back up very very easily so the incentive not to gank is not there in terms of negative status.
Yeah, but the flip side to that is you also take a sec status hit for engaging in "legitemate" PVP in lowsec. I don't think it's fair that people who never gank, but are just "honest" PVPers living the PVP life in lowsec should have such a hard time getting around hisec and for that reason alone the tags are a good thing, IMO. It's not cheap, either. I don't gank at all on this character, yet I've had to do the tag thing before because I hate grinding sec status the old fashioned way. It costs about 144M each time to raise your status JUST from -2.0 back to 0, and it falls back to -2 pretty quick if you're actively PVPing in lowsec. If anything, I think that unless the mechanics of losing sec status in lowsec are changed it should be even cheaper and easier to get your sec status back up.
Just my .02 isk
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17654
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Posted - 2014.04.02 16:41:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:they're fine with being -10 in highsec, some even flaunt it. Who would do such a horrible thing!? I'm surprised yours is still at 0.0 tbh I'd have thought you'd have ganked something with a newb ship by now
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1225
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Posted - 2014.04.02 16:43:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:Shadowlightt wrote:Guys please no flaming i just wonder if any of u think high sec has improved or declined Improved or declined in what? I found it always an unsafe place to be in. Way too many people in the same spot and not being able to instantly see they're blue or not, tbh that creeps me out!
Go back to your safe heaven in null sec, High sec not for you. When weapons, technology, and economies mature faster than the leadership culture entrusted with them, disaster ensues. |
Enraku Reynolt
Peripheral Patrol Shadow's Edge Alliance
20
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Posted - 2014.04.02 16:45:00 -
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funny, quite afew posts complaing about "whiney carebears" who's actually whiney? |
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