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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
2070
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Posted - 2014.04.02 23:32:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:Grunanca wrote:These are the changes I remember without a bit of googleing:
* Concord damage buffed so it cant be tanked anymore, even not with a whole fleet of remote reparing ships. * You no longer get insurance payout for ships that die to CONCORD. * You can no longer warp when you are waiting for CONCORD to come remove your ship. Back in the days, you could fit and arty tempest and warp from bookmark to bookmark 2-3 times with CONCORD chasing you. All while popping 2-3 mackinaws while running. * You get jammed by CONCORD. * You lose control of your drones as soon as CONCORD arrives. * You get neuted to 0 cap the second they hit instead of during 5-6 seconds. * Mining ships got a ridicolous HP buff. * All ships got a 25 % HP buff. * T2 haulers cant be cargo scanned. * Jump freigters were introduced and removed all risk from hauling big stuff out of high sec. Not nearly enough. They still need to make the following changes. * Pods can no longer warp for the duration of criminal timers. * CONCORD kills anyone in highsec with lower than -5 security status, not just those with a criminal timer. * Gate and station sentry guns shoot at suspects. * Suspects can no longer legally return fire when attacked by a non-suspect. * Wardec fees increased to 500mil minimum. * Freighters gain a low slot and 3 rig slots with no other stats changed. * Level 5 missions moved back to highsec. I like high sec and I mine, but the changes you suggest would kill the game. I don't want wow in space. Some of it is would make the game better some worse imo.
Pod thing lol no. Concord I don't think should be killing people for -5 but being able to undock and insta warp to bm, warp to target, gank it, then redock repeatedly is stupid. Suspect thing I don't agree with. Players can shoot at suspects fine. If players shoot they should expect return fire. Wardecs yeah I sort of agree, they're still too cheap but 500 mill is a bit much. Freighters absolutely need to be able to fit low slots and mids. Reduce cargo and increase agility, with the option to add expanders and return to the freighter to current or add a damage control or whatever. Level 5's I agree with too. I wouldn't run them but the game is stale and stagnant in regards to PvE in high sec. Level 4's are way too easy. Adding level 5's, even with nerfed rewards would give veteran high sec missioners something new to do without being forced into low to be ganked.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4333
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Posted - 2014.04.02 23:41:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Did Infinity Ziona just bring up her "2 mil isk Catalyst that does 600 dps in a week training time" lie again?
Tut, tut. I don't know I rolled an alt recently and was looking at the mastery tabs for Gallente ships. I think it's possible if you do SP right and get gunnery to 5 right away and start up on small blaster spec right after that. I have come across wrecks of gank cats and I only the blasters and the tracking enhancement modules were T2. No tank though. Why is that? (just kidding).
With 7 days of skillpoints you'll be lucky to break 350, by the way. Even with a perfect skill plan. Because you basically cannot end up with Thermo by the end of it.
The kind of numbers the liar is suggesting also require implants that are not practical to use by someone who is perma flashy. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4957
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Posted - 2014.04.02 23:49:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Did Infinity Ziona just bring up her "2 mil isk Catalyst that does 600 dps in a week training time" lie again?
Tut, tut. I don't know I rolled an alt recently and was looking at the mastery tabs for Gallente ships. I think it's possible if you do SP right and get gunnery to 5 right away and start up on small blaster spec right after that. I have come across wrecks of gank cats and I only the blasters and the tracking enhancement modules were T2. No tank though. Why is that? (just kidding). With 7 days of skillpoints you'll be lucky to break 350, by the way. Even with a perfect skill plan. Because you basically cannot end up with Thermo by the end of it. The kind of numbers the liar is suggesting also require implants that are not practical to use by someone who is perma flashy.
For the love of all that's right in the world! It's a friggin' week. You'll spend longer arguing about it than if someone actually just did it.
Take a week and train a new character as best you can. See what you end up with.
Or keep fighting over something so easily provable. Whatever.
Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
2070
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Posted - 2014.04.02 23:54:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Did Infinity Ziona just bring up her "2 mil isk Catalyst that does 600 dps in a week training time" lie again?
Tut, tut. I don't know I rolled an alt recently and was looking at the mastery tabs for Gallente ships. I think it's possible if you do SP right and get gunnery to 5 right away and start up on small blaster spec right after that. I have come across wrecks of gank cats and I only the blasters and the tracking enhancement modules were T2. No tank though. Why is that? (just kidding). With 7 days of skillpoints you'll be lucky to break 350, by the way. Even with a perfect skill plan. Because you basically cannot end up with Thermo by the end of it. The kind of numbers the liar is suggesting also require implants that are not practical to use by someone who is perma flashy. For the love of all that's right in the world! It's a friggin' week. You'll spend longer arguing about it than if someone actually just did it. Take a week and train a new character as best you can. See what you end up with. Or keep fighting over something so easily provable. Whatever. Mr Epeen Eh I don't even argue with the troll anymore its pointless. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4334
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Posted - 2014.04.03 00:00:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote: Eh I don't even argue with the troll anymore its pointless.
Which conveniently allows you to keep restating your various lies without acknowledging their inherent falsehood.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Haiiro Aurgnet
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2014.04.03 00:14:00 -
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okay but really- why are we still on this topic though? highsec got changed boo hoo. If you are the kind of people who like non-stop action and fighting, why are you IN high sec? you tell high sec players all the time "YOU SHOULD MOVE TO NULL YOU LOSERS" and when they don't want to play the game the way YOU want- you are trying to force your opinions back on them? The game dynamics are fine as they are right now. High Sec stands for high security- so it stands to reason that it would be well policed SINCE THAT'S WHAT HIGH SECURITY MEANS. Really though. If you want to be a PvPer- fine. there are many, many, many outlets for your fighting needs- but stop with all this "the safe spot of eve is too safe." The game is still really dangerous compared to most every other MMO out there, this ISN'T hello kitty online- nor will it ever be- and the idea of turning high-sec into null is just defeating the point of security status. And while you may say "oh that'd be great," have you ever considered there's a reason high sec is so crowded? because much of the user base likes to live there. and if you are in high sec all the time whining about how it's too hard for you to gank a defenseless new character/miner- than you are acting kinda like a coward/loser.
tl;dr everyone gets your opinion. but things should remain how they are now- because thats how a majority of the user base plays.
... oh and on topic of the thread- depends on your definition. It's definately possible to make more ISK in HS now, but, the game as a whole is WAY too crowded right now, and we're going to need more space at this rate
edit to make sure its clear that when I say more space, I mean of all securitis and types- im not just saying high sec. we don't need more high sec. we need more wormholes, nulsec, lowsec, etc |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
589
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Posted - 2014.04.03 02:21:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Yea. You have never been safer.
Ive noticed this as well. Its not for the better imo PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game http://i.imgur.com/RX8oBRN.jpg |
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Unholy Knights of Cthulhu Test Alliance Please Ignore
549
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Posted - 2014.04.03 02:44:00 -
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Remember the jetcan pirates? How about mining in a battleship? Smartbombing the Jita IV IV undock and tanking concord (and having it not be a bannable offense)?
Damnet now I miss that version of Eve, back in the good ol' days. Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9359
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Posted - 2014.04.03 04:25:00 -
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Grunanca wrote:* You can no longer warp when you are waiting for CONCORD to come remove your ship. Back in the days, you could fit and arty tempest and warp from bookmark to bookmark 2-3 times with CONCORD chasing you. All while popping 2-3 mackinaws while running. Back in those days you could fit an arty Nado, gank, and then warp around the system for the entire 15 minutes, jump out of the system, and jump back in, and CONCORD would stop going after you.
I did this once with a beam Oracle (I probably have screenshots but I'll have to find them) on TQ, and then petitioned myself to CCP so they wouldn't ban me for evading CONCORD. Then a few days later the patch came to disallow warping whenever the player triggers a criminal flag. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum
259
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Posted - 2014.04.03 04:31:00 -
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Haiiro Aurgnet wrote: tl;dr everyone gets your opinion. but things should remain how they are now- because thats how a majority of the user base plays.
Citation?
Quote: ... oh and on topic of the thread- depends on your definition. It's definately possible to make more ISK in HS now, but, the game as a whole is WAY too crowded right now, and we're going to need more space at this rate
I disagree, I don't want more space. There are already huge swaths of space where there's almost nobody around. Mostly in null, yes, but even some areas of low and even hisec. Heck, 4-5 jumps outside a trade hub (if you're not heading in the direction of another hub) and you can find yourself alone.
More space = even less densely populated areas = less player interaction or opportunities for PVP (consensual or non-concensual) and other social aspects of the game.
I dont't like the idea, sorry. Just my personal opinion tho.
EDIT: Just wanted to ad, it cam be incredibly boring and time-consumning trying to find a good fight these days, because there's already a surplus of space, imo. This in a game supposedly centered around PVP. The options are often either to go to a known blobfest system like Huola where you know there's gonna be completely lopsided interaction, or you can gatecamp or "roam" and spend forever hoping a target comes along. It sucks. Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
2071
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Posted - 2014.04.03 04:42:00 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Haiiro Aurgnet wrote: tl;dr everyone gets your opinion. but things should remain how they are now- because thats how a majority of the user base plays.
Citation? Quote: ... oh and on topic of the thread- depends on your definition. It's definately possible to make more ISK in HS now, but, the game as a whole is WAY too crowded right now, and we're going to need more space at this rate
I disagree, I don't want more space. There are already huge swaths of space where there's almost nobody around. Mostly in null, yes, but even some areas of low and even hisec. Heck, 4-5 jumps outside a trade hub (if you're not heading in the direction of another hub) and you can find yourself alone. More space = even less densely populated areas = less player interaction or opportunities for PVP (consensual or non-concensual) and other social aspects of the game. I dont't like the idea, sorry. Just my personal opinion tho. EDIT: Just wanted to ad, it cam be incredibly boring and time-consumning trying to find a good fight these days, because there's already a surplus of space, imo. This in a game supposedly centered around PVP. The options are often either to go to a known blobfest system like Huola where you know there's gonna be completely lopsided interaction, or you can gatecamp or "roam" and spend forever hoping a target comes along. It sucks. Depends on whether you can use the in game map or not. Most players naturally congregate in groups. Whether there was 10,000 more systems this would still be true.
It also depends on what you're looking for and how you're finding fights as well as what your taking with you to fight with. You can go to some areas full of players (renter areas) and not find a fight and you can go to other areas with few players (great wild lands for example) and find fights easily.
IMO more space means more fights because people are less worried about reinforcements and adds.
Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
75
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Posted - 2014.04.03 08:45:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: Eh I don't even argue with the troll anymore its pointless.
Which conveniently allows you to keep restating your various lies without acknowledging their inherent falsehood. Quoted for truth. |
Shadowlightt
Apex Innovations
77
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Posted - 2014.04.03 10:28:00 -
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What about the new ice field anomoly thing that greatly changed hi sec |
Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
1134
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Posted - 2014.04.03 10:40:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Solecist Project wrote:It just hit me like a ton of feathers!
If you people want highsec to be what it was before ... ... why don't you make sure it turns back into it?
If suicide ganking is on an all time low ... (as CCP said so) ... and you people complain about highsec being too safe ...
... then why aren't you making it *less* safe?
Your very questions highlight the problem. What representation we players do have with CCP in the form of the CSM are nullsec bloc centric players who actually don't have full knowledge of all that hisec piracy and conflict mechanics are about, nor give a flying f#ck about said mechanics. All they care about is nullsec, modular fricken POS's, (maybee losec and wormholes), and occasionally they might do a gank with an alt in hisec. But lets be real, they see hisec conflict and pew as a misnomer. The epitome of their (and your) understanding of pew in hisec is 'ganking'. (sigh) Evidence of this, is the long sad list of nerfs made by CCP unchallenged, with null-fixated CSM's dropping the sandbox ball on their watch. tldr; Psychotic Monk for CSM 9. F
Who you need on csm is whoever was behind Zerg Overmind. That guy was like a constitutional expert on hi sec. |
Shadowlightt
Apex Innovations
77
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Posted - 2014.04.03 13:42:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Solecist Project wrote:It just hit me like a ton of feathers!
If you people want highsec to be what it was before ... ... why don't you make sure it turns back into it?
If suicide ganking is on an all time low ... (as CCP said so) ... and you people complain about highsec being too safe ...
... then why aren't you making it *less* safe?
Your very questions highlight the problem. What representation we players do have with CCP in the form of the CSM are nullsec bloc centric players who actually don't have full knowledge of all that hisec piracy and conflict mechanics are about, nor give a flying f#ck about said mechanics. All they care about is nullsec, modular fricken POS's, (maybee losec and wormholes), and occasionally they might do a gank with an alt in hisec. But lets be real, they see hisec conflict and pew as a misnomer. The epitome of their (and your) understanding of pew in hisec is 'ganking'. (sigh) Evidence of this, is the long sad list of nerfs made by CCP unchallenged, with null-fixated CSM's dropping the sandbox ball on their watch. tldr; Psychotic Monk for CSM 9. F Who you need on csm is whoever was behind Zerg Overmind. That guy was like a constitutional expert on hi sec. Who is zerg overmind lolz this isnt a starcraft thread im only talking about the fact how much hi sec dramtically changed over the past years |
Broni-wan Kenobi
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.04.03 16:39:00 -
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Haiiro Aurgnet wrote:okay but really- why are we still on this topic though? highsec got changed boo hoo. If you are the kind of people who like non-stop action and fighting, why are you IN high sec? you tell high sec players all the time "YOU SHOULD MOVE TO NULL YOU LOSERS" and when they don't want to play the game the way YOU want- you are trying to force your opinions back on them? The game dynamics are fine as they are right now. High Sec stands for high security- so it stands to reason that it would be well policed SINCE THAT'S WHAT HIGH SECURITY MEANS. Really though. If you want to be a PvPer- fine. there are many, many, many outlets for your fighting needs- but stop with all this "the safe spot of eve is too safe." The game is still really dangerous compared to most every other MMO out there, this ISN'T hello kitty online- nor will it ever be- and the idea of turning high-sec into null is just defeating the point of security status. And while you may say "oh that'd be great," have you ever considered there's a reason high sec is so crowded? because much of the user base likes to live there. and if you are in high sec all the time whining about how it's too hard for you to gank a defenseless new character/miner- than you are acting kinda like a coward/loser.
tl;dr everyone gets your opinion. but things should remain how they are now- because thats how a majority of the user base plays.
... oh and on topic of the thread- depends on your definition. It's definately possible to make more ISK in HS now, but, the game as a whole is WAY too crowded right now, and we're going to need more space at this rate
edit to make sure its clear that when I say more space, I mean of all securitis and types- im not just saying high sec. we don't need more high sec. we need more wormholes, nulsec, lowsec, etc
This is the single best thing I have heard on this thread. I keep seeing people say "I can't find people to pvp in low/null sec, so let me get easy kills in high sec" ...surely if that many people are in low sec/null, finding a fight shouldn't be that hard. (God knows every time I go into low on my main, if I don't check my route via the map, I run into PvP ...which is a good thing when I /want/ pvp, bad when I don't.)
Sides, it can't be that hard to start a "Lets make fleets and met up in x and duke it out on Friday!" style threads if people /actually/ want a fight, as opposed to a one sided gank fest. Hell, would likely even get people who normally wouldnt pvp (cause they dont want to seem like they suck) to join in. I think CAS does something like that fairly often that is open to newbies and it gets a fair amount of people joining. |
Jonas Maccabee
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:37:00 -
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Shadowlightt wrote:Anyone notice how much hi sec has changed in the last 4 years? Like the order and things.
Haha. This is the guy that just got owned on Minerbumping. Lolz. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1109
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:52:00 -
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Jonas Maccabee wrote:Shadowlightt wrote:Anyone notice how much hi sec has changed in the last 4 years? Like the order and things. Haha. This is the guy that just got owned on Minerbumping. Lolz. Lol. Classic.
Should be fun here for the next few days. . -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Netan MalDoran
xXTheWarhammerXx
1
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Posted - 2014.04.10 23:22:00 -
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Honestly, I don't really care for gankers, but come on people, no-where but an NPC station is safe in New Eden! If there were zero risks in High-sec then where is the point of the game! In my opinion (If your smart) null is sometimes safer than high-sec is!
And to miners, if you are tired of getting ganked by the New Order, FIGHT BACK! Instead of buying a quarter mil mining barge you could have a fleet of cruisers defending yourselves, as stated, the gankers are getting smarter, so you need to get smarter. |
KnowUsByTheDead
Krypteia Operations CODE.
1263
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Posted - 2014.04.10 23:32:00 -
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Due to extreme heresies made against fellow agent Malcolm, and your inability to keep to your word...
I am reserving this posting area to make fun of you when you quit EvE, Shadowlightt.
Unless you would like an honorable 1v1 at the sun to restore the dishonorbru that you brought upon your clan.
Provided you can undock from Dodi.
Or log it for that matter.
Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3173
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Posted - 2014.04.11 02:50:00 -
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Yah... HiSec is way too dangerous and unfair. Like today: I ganked a indy w/ some goodies that actually dropped, and when my alt went to scoop the wreck this T3 blew up MY indy! ...and I'm all like, "hey! No fair dude! That was my kill!"
He didn't even reply.
probably a bot.
eve sucks I quit!
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1242
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Posted - 2014.04.11 03:28:00 -
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Netan MalDoran wrote:Honestly, I don't really care for gankers, but come on people, no-where but an NPC station is safe in New Eden! If there were zero risks in High-sec then where is the point of the game! In my opinion (If your smart) null is sometimes safer than high-sec is!
And to miners, if you are tired of getting ganked by the New Order, FIGHT BACK! Instead of buying a quarter mil mining barge you could have a fleet of cruisers defending yourselves, as stated, the gankers are getting smarter, so you need to get smarter. No, you need to get smarter. High Sec ganks are pretty much undefendable against. You can not be there. Or you die. Assuming they do the gank right anyway, if they sit around letting you prelock them then maybe you can do something. A fleet of cruisers defending a mining op in just a joke. Those cruisers can all make more than the miners by doing PvE. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1810
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Posted - 2014.04.11 04:33:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote: No, you need to get smarter. High Sec ganks are pretty much undefendable against. You can not be there. Or you die. Assuming they do the gank right anyway, if they sit around letting you prelock them then maybe you can do something. A fleet of cruisers defending a mining op in just a joke. Those cruisers can all make more than the miners by doing PvE.
So what you are saying is that you can make isk or sit around defending miners. Sounds like balance to me... tank/yield should be like some sort of EvE holy trinity or something. Except there is only 2.
I can defend against ganks. I know how gankers work. I have, ahem, some experience in the field. I was ganked while mining exactly 1 time. After that, never again. I mined all of the minerals for my Orca. I still have that Orca, never been ganked. I even mined during a wardec. Didn't loose my retty. Never lost a mining ship to a hisec gank. Hell, I've even mined in wh space. Never lost a barge there either. Ganking isn't the Mr. Miyagi jump front kick. There is a defense. But.. tank/yield... "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion
***** Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM ***** |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2964
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Posted - 2014.04.11 04:55:00 -
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Quote:16. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread.
26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued. Thread closed. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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