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Batelle
Tymast Industries 150th
2550
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Posted - 2014.04.03 19:54:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:Seriously. You got the ship and the loot, so now you look at popping the pod which gets you....nothing. Well, maybe a worthless corpse.
It is the insult following the injury.
So why do you do it?
why do you post the thread if you've answered the question in your OP?
Also, there are legitimate reasons to pod people beyond adding insult to injury or even just inflicting additional damage to the target. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Rich Uncle PennyBags
EVE Online Monopoly
167
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:01:00 -
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Especially important in wormholes.
Podding can remove a person from the fight entirely. No risk of reshipping at all. |
Marie Hartinez
Aries Munitions and Defense
589
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:58:00 -
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Podding someone is a matter of course. It's expected.
If you blow up my ship, I expect you to pod me as well. Though, I will do everything I can to escape. After all, isn't it called an "escape pod" for a reason? Surrender is still your slightly less painful option. |
Serene Repose
1220
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:11:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:Seriously. You got the ship and the loot, so now you look at popping the pod which gets you....nothing. Well, maybe a worthless corpse.
It is the insult following the injury.
So why do you do it? This is like asking, "Since you have the knife in, do you really have to TWIST IT?" The reply to that is invariably, "Yes. Why do you think I stuck it in in the first place?"
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4376
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:19:00 -
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Xavier Holtzman wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: It's actually the reverse of what you would claim. There is never a reason to not pod someone.
I agree with pretty much everything except this statement. There are, indeed, times when you DON'T want to pod someone. I've been in many fleet engagements where podding people would send them back to their station where they can reship and start traveling back to the fight, as opposed to leaving them in their pod and letting them manually jump back to their reshipping station which would take much more time. But generally speaking, I always try to kill the pod.
Even then, I would argue that it's still best to get the pod.
Your supposition is that the fight is occurring fairly close to their home station, and that by podding them, they can reship faster, yes?
My thoughts are:
They still lose implants, which can be of use.
They lose any eyes they might have on my fleet from that person.
They lose, and this is critical, any warp in point they might get from that person.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Hastatus Shmoof Marii
Celestial Horizon Corp.
3
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:22:00 -
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Because the fleet commander told us to shoot it
Always follow orders |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
2123
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:26:00 -
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I figure since CCP went through all of the trouble to revamp the Pod death sequence, it was because people wanted to see it more often. |
darmwand
Repo.
188
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:30:00 -
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Unless ordered so by an FC, I never pod people without giving them a fair chance to get away by paying a modest ransom. Those who pay will get away alive, those who choose not to pay pretty much have to be podded, otherwise nobody would pay.
I.e. I pod people to make others pay ransoms. "Imagine it is war and everybody cloaks." -- Bienator II |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1415
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:34:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:So podding is strictly ego stroking. Nevermind that you get nothing tangible out of it. If we could salavage implants, i would see the reason. But just for an e-peen erection..I dont. not really true: - person could have bounty and killing his pod you can get lots of ISK (thanks to expensive implants) - in FW you get LP. And well filled implants give you a lot more LP than some dirt-cheap ship The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
1149
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Posted - 2014.04.03 21:40:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:Seriously. You got the ship and the loot, so now you look at popping the pod which gets you....nothing. Well, maybe a worthless corpse.
It is the insult following the injury.
So why do you do it?
Back to WoW?
CCP: "We know what's best for the game, so you can't have any options....." |
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Raiz Nhell
Veni Vidi Vici Reloaded Veni Vidi Vici Alliance
325
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Posted - 2014.04.03 23:31:00 -
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Is it in space? Yes.
Do you have guns? Yes!
Can you target it? Yes!!
Can you open fire? DO IT ALREADY!!!!!!!
There is no such thing as overkill, there is only "Open Fire" & "I'm Reloading"
There is no such thing as a fair fight...
If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1239
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Posted - 2014.04.04 08:11:00 -
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Podding is often a mark of respect. There's nothing worse than slow boating home through 18 jumps of null in a pod. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3030
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Posted - 2014.04.04 08:14:00 -
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Because Im a sicko and a sadist and I love doing it after a long day's torturing. *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Jessica Duranin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2014.04.04 08:50:00 -
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I pod because I live in w-space and not doing so can bite you in the a*s, especially when you fight in someone's home system. That retriever you just shot can turn into an archon very quickly if you don't pod him back to k-space. |
Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
284
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Posted - 2014.04.04 08:58:00 -
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Also, I was told that 1 in every 100 contains a prize. Haven't found one yet, but damn it if I give up now, my lucks got to change! |
JC Anderson
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1065
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Posted - 2014.04.04 09:02:00 -
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IMHO it really depends on who the person is.
If they happen to be part of a corp or alliance that you are trying to cause as much economic damage to as possible, then yeah of course there is reason for it. With one of the primary parts of that reasoning being the hope that they had expensive implants in at the time. |
JC Anderson
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1065
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Posted - 2014.04.04 09:12:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:It promotes a healthy implant market.
Sadly, the squish sound hasn't been around for quite a few years. Sadder still, almost no one noticed it was gone.
LOL around the same time, I used to swear you could hear a little scream as well. But whenever I mentioned it to somebody they would inform me that they hear no scream and that I am hallucinating. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3031
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Posted - 2014.04.04 09:22:00 -
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JC Anderson wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:It promotes a healthy implant market.
Sadly, the squish sound hasn't been around for quite a few years. Sadder still, almost no one noticed it was gone. LOL around the same time, I used to swear you could hear a little scream as well. But whenever I mentioned it to somebody they would inform me that they hear no scream and that I am hallucinating.
I hear a scream
But then
I hear a lot of screams
Fairly constantly *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1536
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Posted - 2014.04.04 09:24:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:Seriously. You got the ship and the loot, so now you look at popping the pod which gets you....nothing. Well, maybe a worthless corpse.
It is the insult following the injury.
So why do you do it?
Who cares why? HTFU, update your clone, re-purchase your implants, and drive on. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Balshem Rozenzweig
Akademia Milicyjna The North is Coming
37
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Posted - 2014.04.04 09:46:00 -
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pod kills are good kills. They can be expensive, they are relatively rate, and, well, a kill is a kill. Singature Radius 48 m |
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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
168
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Posted - 2014.04.04 11:51:00 -
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Potential further discouragement from hanging out in MY space. And by my space I mean Caldari hisec. Its mine. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3039
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Posted - 2014.04.04 11:53:00 -
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Unezka Turigahl wrote: MY space..
All the cool kids are on BeBo now
You need to Get Crucial *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
3527
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Posted - 2014.04.04 11:56:00 -
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I have always tried to imagine somebody face that is afk being podded. That first confused look on his face when he gets back to his desk and finds himself in station and then the ultimate discovery that he just lost 1 Billion worth of implants.
That thought... keeps me podding.
I am aiming for that 4 Bill Pod. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. He flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. His hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. It was truly majestic. And while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off. Because I am like that." - NEONOVUS |
Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
939
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Posted - 2014.04.04 12:04:00 -
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You send them home. They're not going to reship in an npc station a few jumps away and begin harassing anew. You take their implants, if any, out of the game. That's more cost to them. This is about leveling the playing field. If you have billions in implants and a bling ship, removing both from the game is preferable. It reminds people that if you come flying in to **** in some part of the sandbox, that they'd better do so cheaply, or be ready to lose their investments, on top of a chunk of their time if they elect to come back for more. All of these are advantageous and not doing so due to some nonsense code of honor is really silly and an open weakness on your part. |
knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
368
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Posted - 2014.04.04 12:15:00 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Many reasons:
It removes a scout of the grid (a target caller can still call targets from a pod, and he can still be used for warp-ins), it sends someone (hopefully) a long way home to their clone bay to slow down their reship, perhaps to shut their whining up in local, to increase the cost of the loss by taking out implants and maybe an expensive pod in the case of a high-sp character, maybe they like collecting corpses, and of course, some people just like to hear the squish.
On the contrary, you may want to not pod people so it takes longer for them to get back and reship and get back into the fight. A pod stuck in a bubble in a big fleet fight is one less person to worry about coming back in a hurry. |
Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
940
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Posted - 2014.04.04 12:22:00 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote:Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Many reasons:
It removes a scout of the grid (a target caller can still call targets from a pod, and he can still be used for warp-ins), it sends someone (hopefully) a long way home to their clone bay to slow down their reship, perhaps to shut their whining up in local, to increase the cost of the loss by taking out implants and maybe an expensive pod in the case of a high-sp character, maybe they like collecting corpses, and of course, some people just like to hear the squish. On the contrary, you may want to not pod people so it takes longer for them to get back and reship and get back into the fight. A pod stuck in a bubble in a big fleet fight is one less person to worry about coming back in a hurry.
I didn't have big fleets in mind but I'll give you that one. Although if you're anti-support and enemy supers are dying on field, popping super pods is a good idea. Everyone else should be focusing on killing things and subcap pods should be ignored. |
Flybiere
F'n'F Inc
18
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Posted - 2014.04.04 15:06:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Many reasons:
It removes a scout of the grid (a target caller can still call targets from a pod, and he can still be used for warp-ins), it sends someone (hopefully) a long way home to their clone bay to slow down their reship, perhaps to shut their whining up in local, to increase the cost of the loss by taking out implants and maybe an expensive pod in the case of a high-sp character, maybe they like collecting corpses, and of course, some people just like to hear the squish. best answer yet. If you really want to make podding interesting, have it remove game time. When podded, you lose 12 hours of game time in your sub.
Once you've been in a position to kill a pod you'll know why.
Hell I took a huge sec drop the other day for killing 2 pods. I killed them because they, probably like you, sat there with thinking some sort of scallywag code would stay my hand (well F1 finger) and stop me killing them. They were wrong, and as much as I didn't need the sec hit and I wished no RL spite on the players in question, I popped them. They didn't complain. They probably learnt something.
https://zkillboard.com/detail/37773785/ https://zkillboard.com/detail/37773612/
Seriously, they both had skulls full of shiny and they sat there like a bunch of idiots. Shall not be doing that again I would bet. I'm an educator. |
Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
290
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Posted - 2014.04.04 15:28:00 -
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Also, there are times when I bag a pod that had ample time to escape, and it is both someone old enough to know better (ie: flying a T2 ship), and someone with expensive implants near enough to home that they aren't just getting a pod express, that I wonder if it's a multiboxer (since I assume someone multiboxing a logi, a falcon, and a dps ship might be a bit slow on the warp-out as they are still at the wheel of their other ships, compared to us single-account plebs who have nothing else to do but spam that warp button). In those cases, I consider it a fair tax against multiboxing. |
Tam Althor
lll tempered sea bass Brothers of Tangra
9
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Posted - 2014.04.04 16:37:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:If I see what implants they have (had), it helps me put together a better picture of the battle for my own personal after action reports.
Besides that, it sends them back to their medical station, which can help prevent them from reshipping nearby and ruining my day.
It's actually the reverse of what you would claim. There is never a reason to not pod someone.
I would say in deep PC 0.0 with bubbles everywhere, leaving them in a pod to try and fly home or pod themselves is a reason not to pod them. but getting the corpse for your collection is a better reason to pod them |
Kiryen O'Bannon
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
110
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Posted - 2014.04.04 16:44:00 -
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There's really onl one reason ( barring politics) to not pod: other enemy ships still engaging you. |
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