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Alistair Cononach
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.03 18:20:00 -
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Been away from the game for some time, and used to use a regular Raven only.
Not that I'm back, looking for the current "reasonable-best" Mission fitting for the Caldari Navy Raven.
Limitations: No Officer or otherwise uber-expensive Modules, No T2 Rigs.
Prefer some sembalnce of safety/tank over all-out-max-DPS.
Thanks in advance. |
Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
483
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Posted - 2014.04.03 18:29:00 -
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Navy Raven
8x cruise missile
1x LMJD 2x sensor booster with targeting range scripts 1x extra large shield booster 2x shield resist mods 1x shield boost amplifier/shield resist mod/tp/cap booster (pick what you like/need)
4x bcu 1x co-processor (or 3x bcu, 1x co-processor, 1x dc)
I use light scout drones and salvage drones. You can use whatever drones you like.
3x rigor rigs (or 2x rigor, 1x ccc; or 2x rigor, 1x flare) Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |
Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
1082
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Posted - 2014.04.03 19:25:00 -
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If you've been out of the game for a while, check the prices on T2 rigs before ruling them out. You might be surprised. Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |
Klymer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
533
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Posted - 2014.04.03 20:17:00 -
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Alistair Cononach wrote:
Prefer some sembalnce of safety/tank over all-out-max-DPS.
Maybe you should look into the Scorpion Navy issue, the shield resist bonus on the hull makes it a much 'safer' choice.
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Paka-Tegat Birshiri
Paragon Material Extraction and Processing
5
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Posted - 2014.04.05 00:52:00 -
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My Raven was equipped with the following:
HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I
MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER
LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I
DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES
UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I |
Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
483
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Posted - 2014.04.05 00:57:00 -
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Paka-Tegat Birshiri wrote:My Raven was equipped with the following:
HIGH 06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I 01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1 01 x SALVAGER I
MEDIUM 04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS 01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM 01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER
LOW 01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL 01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I 01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I 02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I
DRONES 02 x WARRIOR I DRONES 03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES
UPGRADES 01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I 01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I Trains keep on rolling. Trolls keep on trolling.
Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.04.05 14:06:00 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.
The Rules: 5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Vinyl 41
Perkone Academy
39
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Posted - 2014.04.05 15:41:00 -
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Alistair Cononach wrote:Been away from the game for some time, and used to use a regular Raven only.
Not that I'm back, looking for the current "reasonable-best" Mission fitting for the Caldari Navy Raven.
Limitations: No Officer or otherwise uber-expensive Modules, No T2 Rigs.
Prefer some sembalnce of safety/tank over all-out-max-DPS.
Thanks in advance. your looking for the navy scorpion same dps as the raven but with much more tank and fitting options |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
763
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Posted - 2014.04.05 18:25:00 -
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Vinyl 41 wrote:Alistair Cononach wrote:Been away from the game for some time, and used to use a regular Raven only.
Not that I'm back, looking for the current "reasonable-best" Mission fitting for the Caldari Navy Raven.
Limitations: No Officer or otherwise uber-expensive Modules, No T2 Rigs.
Prefer some sembalnce of safety/tank over all-out-max-DPS.
Thanks in advance. your looking for the navy scorpion same dps as the raven but with much more tank and fitting options
This^
The Navy Scorpion offers better tank than either Raven and does the same DPS as the Raven. The one downside is limited range when using T2 ammo |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
765
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Posted - 2014.04.05 19:34:00 -
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RNI with 888 DPS and 5 min of cap. The only "expensive" module is the shield booster at about 12 mil in Jita... If you want to use T2 you'll need a +1 CPU implant.
[Raven Navy Issue, Missions] Capacitor Flux Coil II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Kinetic Deflection Field II Kinetic Deflection Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Shield Boost Amplifier II Cap Recharger II
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Hobgoblin II x10 Hammerhead II x5
SNI with 888 DPS, 11 min of cap and no implants needed
[Scorpion Navy Issue, Missions] Capacitor Flux Coil II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Kinetic Deflection Field II Kinetic Deflection Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Large Shield Booster II Shield Boost Amplifier II Shield Boost Amplifier II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile Small Tractor Beam II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
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stoicfaux
4408
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Posted - 2014.04.05 21:52:00 -
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Use the MJD to snipe in relative safety. CPU is super tight. If you only have shield rigging at IV, you'll need to downgrade one of the shield hardeners to a meta. You can also free up CPU using a DG or Pith XL C-Type which are relatively cheap.
You can also field three sentries, which if you're sniping at long range, shouldn't have tracking issues.
[Raven Navy Issue, mission sniper] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Co-Processor II
X-Large Shield Booster II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Explosive Deflection Field II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Large Micro Jump Drive Sensor Booster II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Flharfh Lhar
Sunset and Evening Star
0
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Posted - 2014.05.05 17:24:00 -
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Actually I think the two extra launchers on the CNR just about balances out with the RoF bonus the SNI has, so the DPS will be almost identical, although the CNR will apply its damage better due to the explosion radius bonus, and will better be able to one volley cruisers and BCs due to the bigger damage per volley.
SNI is easier to fit (due to only having 6 launchers instead of 8) has a utility high slot and extra mid slot, and a better tank thanks to the resist bonus (can easily fit an excellent omni tank) CNR applies damage better to smaller targets and one volleys better, has a slightly better capacitor, and is about 70 m/s faster with afterburner running.
All in all, they are both very similar and good ships, and are about identical cost wise. The SNI is the safer choice, while the CNR will go through missions faster. If you go the SNI route, consider using two TPs instead of rigor rigs, and using cap rigs instead. |
Jazmyn Stone
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
155
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Posted - 2014.05.05 20:12:00 -
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One thing to remember is the volley damage.
My CNR puts out 964dps with 8080 volley and targets at 93km. My Navy Scorp puts out 964dps with 6060 volley, and targets at 112km. My Raven puts out 964dps with 6060 volley, and targets at 93km.
Hope that helps a bit.
-Jaz |
Pix Severus
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
890
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Posted - 2014.05.06 03:32:00 -
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My RNI fitting:
8x Cruise Missile Launcher II Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Pithum B-Type Medium Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II 3x Mission Specific TII Shield Hardeners 2x Republic Fleet Target Painter
3x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Ballistic Control System II Drone Damage Amplifier II
2x Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst Large Warhead Flare Catalyst
I swap out one target painter for a TII afterburner for missions that require a lot of travelling.
Missile DPS: 1026.3 Drone DPS: 183.6 Overall DPS: 1209.9
All missile support skills at 5. Cruise Missile Specialization at 4. 5% missile hardwires. |
6ie
The Kiwis
7
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Posted - 2014.05.11 01:14:00 -
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Pix Severus wrote:My RNI fitting:
8x Cruise Missile Launcher II Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Pithum B-Type Medium Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II 3x Mission Specific TII Shield Hardeners 2x Republic Fleet Target Painter
3x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Ballistic Control System II Drone Damage Amplifier II
2x Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst Large Warhead Flare Catalyst
I swap out one target painter for a TII afterburner for missions that require a lot of travelling.
Missile DPS: 1026.3 Drone DPS: 183.6 Overall DPS: 1209.9
All missile support skills at 5. Cruise Missile Specialization at 4. 5% missile hardwires.
^^ the 'approved' fit. However...
BCSII vs DCUII ~58 more dps vs almost 50% more EHP
I'm not as hardcore as you. I prefer the extra 24k EHP.
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Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Cruis3r's Cr3w Inc. Constructive. Criticism.
97
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Posted - 2014.05.11 03:11:00 -
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ultra tight fitting in more ways than one but should work wonders when u watch your triggers and know how to pilot it
[Raven Navy Issue, mission_cheap]
8x Cruise Missile Launcher II (Inferno Fury Cruise Missile)
Large Micro Jump Drive X-Large Clarity Ward Booster I Domination EM Ward Amplifier Domination Thermic Dissipation Amplifier 2x Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Heavy Capacitor Booster II (Cap Booster 800)
Type-D Attenuation Signal Augmentation Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System 3x Ballistic Control System II
2x Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Large Warhead Flare Catalyst II
5x Hammerhead II 1x Hammerhead II 5x Hobgoblin II 3x Hobgoblin II |
Damon Messer
Miroirs
8
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Posted - 2014.05.11 05:09:00 -
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@OP how are your drone skills? have you considered a rattlesnake? |
Linkxsc162534
Traps 'R' Us Advanced Amateurs
71
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Posted - 2014.05.12 04:38:00 -
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Jazmyn Stone wrote:One thing to remember is the volley damage.
My CNR puts out 964dps with 8080 volley and targets at 93km. (great application, can blap frigates-cruisers all day long) My Navy Scorp puts out 964dps with 6060 volley, and targets at 112km. (great tank, and much easier cap stability) My Raven puts out 964dps with 6060 volley, and targets at 93km. (a fraction the cost of the others, but it gets the job DONE)
With all 3 BSs you can have both gank and tank. You don't have to sacrifice one for another. But as mentioned before, the Navy Scorp does give 4% shield resists per level, and that helps with it's tank over the others.
Hope that helps a bit.
-Jaz
Fixed your post. Obligatory Golem. For when you need GankTank (sometimes your tank is dpsing ships off the field before they can kill you) |
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