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Goa Chai
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
93
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Posted - 2014.04.06 21:24:00 -
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Kelly Rabbit wrote:As for your 'democracy,' the Holy Amarr Empire was exploring space while the Gallente were flinging fecal matter at each other and using grunts to communicate. Yes, bulky antiquated ship designs and the need to borrow weapon systems from other factions then retrofit them onto your existing fleets to remain competitive reflects that. |
Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
1345
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Posted - 2014.04.06 23:06:00 -
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One full brigade/regiment of Kameiras (3500) was transfered today to the PIE re-deployment program. Captain Shutaq has been a man of reason and decorum and a pleasure to work with to this point. The Disciples of Ston bid you peace |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
973
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Posted - 2014.04.07 05:40:00 -
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Goa Chai wrote:Kelly Rabbit wrote:As for your 'democracy,' the Holy Amarr Empire was exploring space while the Gallente were flinging fecal matter at each other and using grunts to communicate. Yes, bulky antiquated ship designs and the need to borrow weapon systems from other factions then retrofit them onto your existing fleets to remain competitive reflects that. I would like to remind to everyone, that democracy is the worst and inefficient management form. Only in a democracy a voice of a scientist can be equal to a voice of a janitor. Down with this thing.
Promoting a democracy is a crime against humanity. |
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
405
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Posted - 2014.04.07 09:13:00 -
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Whilst Kameiras are slowly becoming obsolete in the rise of the Clone Soldier programme, they still have their uses. As such, the request to merely donate them? Preposterous.
We have a number of them, 'just idly sitting in our hangars', as much as PIE has a number of currency, just idly sitting in their wallets. So, if you're interested in a purchase, contact me and we'll sort something out. If that doesn't strike your fancy, fear not; I'm sure they'll find an interested buyer with better business skills. - Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim ___________________________ Angels are never far... Stillwater Corporation Recruitment Open - Angel Cartel Bloc |
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
603
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Posted - 2014.04.09 10:44:00 -
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The Amarr delegation of the Aurora Arcology has decided to transfer 10 squads of Kameiras to the PIE cause. May they serve to protect Amarr civilians in many ways. -áAurora Security boosted by military grade MTAC addition! + General MTAC Information-á -á Ayem Colony Expansion Progress |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
2458
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Posted - 2014.04.09 18:56:00 -
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Goa Chai wrote:So in other words....
So in other words, you don't know anything about Kameiras or their culture and you've been completely brainwashed by your own propaganda to the point where you can't even tell an Amarrian from a Blood Raider.
Goa Chai wrote:Yes, bulky antiquated ship designs and the need to borrow weapon systems from other factions then retrofit them onto your existing fleets to remain competitive reflects that.
Congratulations, you have just summarized Minmater ship design in one sentence. Nullsec in a Nutshell: http://nedroid.com/comics/2006-08-24-2155-arrrdino.gif |
Marth Young
Proficiency V.
5
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:17:00 -
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Why would you need more soldiers. Your alliance does have a corporation that is dictated strictly towards Dusters. A single one of them can take down full platoons of mortals?
It seems repetitive, there is also the Kameira Lodge a Duster corp owned by the Amarr Empire.
I guess if you have something use it? Playing Dust is a must! One Universe \\ One War Dust News Reporter
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Arnulf Ogunkoya
Lutinari Syndicate
46
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:29:00 -
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Marth Young wrote:Why would you need more soldiers. Your alliance does have a corporation that is dictated strictly towards Dusters. A single one of them can take down full platoons of mortals?
It seems repetitive, there is also the Kameira Lodge a Duster corp owned by the Amarr Empire.
I guess if you have something use it?
Because if you want something obliterated you use clones in powered armour.
If you want territory held you use regular troops. If you want a minimum of discipline issues you use elite formations like Kameiras or Vaklear.
Regards, Arnulf Ogunkoya. |
Kale Silence
Sebietar Scavenging and Hacking
43
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Posted - 2014.04.10 06:27:00 -
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Arnulf Ogunkoya wrote:Marth Young wrote:Why would you need more soldiers. Your alliance does have a corporation that is dictated strictly towards Dusters. A single one of them can take down full platoons of mortals?
It seems repetitive, there is also the Kameira Lodge a Duster corp owned by the Amarr Empire.
I guess if you have something use it? Because if you want something obliterated you use clones in powered armour. If you want territory held you use regular troops. If you want a minimum of discipline issues you use elite formations like Kameiras or Vaklear.
Is that supposed to be an insult? It looks like you're praising Kameiras to me. See Corp bio for business details
"Love me or hate me, but money don't judge me. I don't care about your opinion, unless you intend to pay me. Then I care." - Anonymous |
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
159
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Posted - 2014.04.10 12:39:00 -
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O people of PIE, the wrath of the Red God does wax large against you.
You do offend His holy eyes with your liberalism GÇö you apologize for things for which God needs no apology; you seek the approval of reprobate sinners with your humanitarian mercy missions; you reject the teachings of Nauplius, a Prophet of God who has delivered unto you True Scripture and you have waged war against him. And so God withdraws His blessings from you and judges you unworthy of a new Reclaiming.
But there is yet hope for you, for you are only wayward and not reprobates given over to destruction. God demands blood sacrifice to wash away your sins and prove yourselves worthy of a new Reclaiming. And in the blood of the Kameiras shall be made a most glorious sacrifice indeed. This does Nauplius, a Prophet of God command unto you: gather at the Munory Bonfire in Cruors and Ashimmus and Bhaalgorns and make blood sacrifice of the Kamerias; offer one part of the blood unto God and take the rest, for the blood of the Kamerias shall grant you honor and brotherhood.
The shock and awe of your blood sacrifice of Kameiras shall reach all New Eden and make of your enemies trembling husks. The Golden Fleet must be splattered with Red. Amen. Amarr Victor. |
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Arnulf Ogunkoya
Lutinari Syndicate
49
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Posted - 2014.04.10 22:36:00 -
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Kale Silence wrote:Arnulf Ogunkoya wrote:Because if you want something obliterated you use clones in powered armour.
If you want territory held you use regular troops. If you want a minimum of discipline issues you use elite formations like Kameiras or Vaklear.
Is that supposed to be an insult? It looks like you're praising Kameiras to me. I don't agree with what they were created to serve. That does not mean I should be blind to how well they serve it. I am praising their effectiveness, not their morality.
Regards, Arnulf Ogunkoya. |
Raphael Ordo
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
87
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Posted - 2014.04.14 08:11:00 -
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This program has already proven to free several Kameiras back into service. The PIE ground forces, Praetoriani Classiarii Templares, has made this official on the immortal soldiers equivalence:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2053157#post2053157
May God give peace and patience those left forgotten in the vast hangars of uncaring capsuleers. PIE would like to thank all of those who have already come forward, released and aided in this cause. |
Ayallah
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
161
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:45:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Goa Chai wrote:Yes, bulky antiquated ship designs and the need to borrow weapon systems from other factions then retrofit them onto your existing fleets to remain competitive reflects that. Congratulations, you have just summarized Minmater ship design in one sentence.
I do not want to take anything away from the ignorance of Goa's statement when I point out the ignorance in yours. -áFear The Tribes |
Arista Shahni
Macedonian Phalanx Circle-Of-Two
98
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:00:00 -
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I have nearly three dozen individual Kameiras that have been in my employ - via CONCORD regulation counted among my assets. These hardened solo veterans were aquired in Jita singularly as discovered and have been kept in training programs and other forms of security detail that were at one time required when I resided in Empire space.
The news of this program comes at a fortunate time, and I would like more information in regards to this plan sent to me at the earliest convienence.
Transport of these individuals can be considered moderately risky due to their ISK value in the capsuleer population-at-large -- my own ship came under violent risk taking them out of the Jita station due to their presence on cargo scans -- and I am therefore concerned about their safety in regards to being transported into a proper military program through open space - CONCORD defended or no.
"I was dreaming once, and I dreampt of a world where I was nothing more than a biological fitting; a slave to the machine and crew, instead of the other way around. Don't you wonder at how easy it would have been for this scenario to happen, instead of how it actually unfolded?" |
Lady Katherine Devonshire
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
297
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:05:00 -
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Nauplius wrote:God demands blood sacrifice to wash away your sins and prove yourselves worthy of a new Reclaiming.
Many of the Faithful are in complete agreement, though the general consensus is that this sacrifice should begin & end with you.
The sound of the Amarrian heart |
Ayallah
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
177
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Posted - 2014.04.15 19:34:00 -
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Re-asking,
ALL Kameiras? -áFear The Tribes |
Marth Young
Proficiency V.
5
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Posted - 2014.04.15 20:29:00 -
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Ayallah wrote:Re-asking,
ALL Kameiras?
It sounds like you are asking if they should be dead or alive. Playing Dust is a must! One Universe \\ One War Dust News Reporter
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1020
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Posted - 2014.04.15 20:49:00 -
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Ayallah wrote:Re-asking,
ALL Kameiras? Don't worry, when you get into my custody, I will donate you too! |
Merdaneth
Angel Wing.
314
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Posted - 2014.04.16 07:38:00 -
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You are calling upon *ALL* pilots to deliver their Kameiras to PIE.
According to my information Captain Fierach still has a sizeable personal guard with does not seem to be accounted for in the PIE Initial Group. |
Ava Starfire
Gradient
1517
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Posted - 2014.04.16 11:25:00 -
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Guys!
Guys!!
I am totally going to kidnap a shitload of Amarrians, hold them hostage and subject them to maltreatment for a few hundred years, indoctrinate them, brainwash them, and then convince them to fight for me. Oh, right! I will probably subject them to dodgy medical research and genetic modifications too!
You'll all help me and congratulate me right? Coooools!
Yay! This is fun!
Reclaiming the poor heathens is what we must do! "There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception."
-Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North" |
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Ayallah
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
180
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Posted - 2014.04.16 14:25:00 -
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Marth Young wrote: It sounds like you are asking if they should be dead or alive.
Incorrect. -áFear The Tribes |
Laerise
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
59
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:30:00 -
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Merdaneth wrote:You are calling upon *ALL* pilots to deliver their Kameiras to PIE.
According to my information Captain Fierach still has a sizeable personal guard with does not seem to be accounted for in the PIE Initial Group.
Where I come from noone raises an exebrow at a personal guard of a mere threehundred. They do perform their duties admirably and are on constant standby in the Throne Worlds in any case... |
Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
1357
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Posted - 2014.05.11 17:28:00 -
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I am posting here today just to remind PIE that we who have been initial participants in the Kameiras program are very eager to hear a preliminary report as to how it is going. I know you all are very busy, but we would be grateful for news. Thanks. The Disciples of Ston bid you peace |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
534
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Posted - 2014.05.11 18:35:00 -
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I will relay your request to Captain Shutaq, Mr. Momaki. |
ValentinaDLM
Zaratha Zarati Shaktipat Revelators
526
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Posted - 2014.05.11 20:20:00 -
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Ava Starfire wrote:Guys!
Guys!!
I am totally going to kidnap a shitload of Amarrians, hold them hostage and subject them to maltreatment for a few hundred years, indoctrinate them, brainwash them, and then convince them to fight for me. Oh, right! I will probably subject them to dodgy medical research and genetic modifications too!
You'll all help me and congratulate me right? Coooools!
Yay! This is fun!
Reclaiming the poor heathens is what we must do!
I don't know how I missed this post, I would bet real isk Ava, if you did that you would find your fair share of congratulations from a certain percentage of people.
If it makes you feel any better, none of the human capital I procure is delivered to PIE or any of it's subsidiaries. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1070
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Posted - 2014.05.12 05:27:00 -
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Ava Starfire wrote:Guys!
Guys!!
I am totally going to kidnap a shitload of Amarrians, hold them hostage and subject them to maltreatment for a few hundred years, indoctrinate them, brainwash them, and then convince them to fight for me. Oh, right! I will probably subject them to dodgy medical research and genetic modifications too!
You'll all help me and congratulate me right? Coooools!
Yay! This is fun!
Reclaiming the poor heathens is what we must do! I don't think it will work. All peoples are different. It simply won't work, for example, for Caldari, because Caldari will prefer death to coward surrender and working for the enemy.
As well, Amarrians are very different from Minmatars, and if this tactics worked against Minmatars, it doesn't mean it will work against Amarrians. You see, Amarr faith is incredibly strong one, and you forgot to add this factor to the equation. |
Jurou Yuan
Hakkaisuo Corporation Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
113
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Posted - 2014.05.12 10:40:00 -
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I'm sure years upon years of indoctrination have had zero effect on you whatsoever, Diana. You'd be fighting for the Gallente if you had been born on that side of the border.
Don't underestimate what a life of being told selective pieces of information can do to people. It is a extremely effective form of enslavement. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1071
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Posted - 2014.05.12 11:04:00 -
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Jurou Yuan wrote:I'm sure years upon years of indoctrination have had zero effect on you whatsoever, Diana. You'd be fighting for the Gallente if you had been born on that side of the border.
Don't underestimate what a life of being told selective pieces of information can do to people. It is a extremely effective form of enslavement. I would never! I am not that stupid to believe gallentean propaganda!
Unlike gallenteans, I am a human and a person. I can watch and analyze information. Propaganda is useless against me. |
Jurou Yuan
Hakkaisuo Corporation Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
113
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Posted - 2014.05.12 11:18:00 -
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Diana you are the most indoctrinated person around. If this is a genetic element, you would without a doubt be just as full of zeal for a different empire or group had you been exposed early enough.
This isn't a slight against you. You back up what you say and do your job. The reasons you do said job however are shallow. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1071
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Posted - 2014.05.12 13:00:00 -
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Jurou Yuan wrote:Diana you are the most indoctrinated person around. If this is a genetic element, you would without a doubt be just as full of zeal for a different empire or group had you been exposed early enough.
This isn't a slight against you. You back up what you say and do your job. The reasons you do said job however are shallow. The only swallow things are contents of your head after Kuvakei's manipulations.
And the program, running in your head, is rather predictable: "Oh, Diana can think, she can figure out what Sansha can do, she always screams at sansha and kills us in great numbers? Lets just say she is indoctrinated, so dumb-head readers will believe me, they will hate her, love sansha, close eyes on all atrocities we do, they will become dumber and might even join nation!"
But your plan won't work, because real humans are curious, they can ask questions and think, for example, "what if Diana really has some reasons, and that Sansha just loudmouths dangerous to nation elements according to his program?" Humans will ask and understand.
And Sansha drones will continue running their stupid programs in ignorance. |
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