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Markku Laaksonen
EVE University Ivy League
433
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:40:00 -
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I see a lot of things about botting in Serenity. Are these accounts first hand experience? Or is it an assumption, "because China."? DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/
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Endovior
Osmosis Inc Li3 Federation
226
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Posted - 2014.04.05 00:39:00 -
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CCP Leeloo wrote:The Erebus-class Titan was the most utilized Titan of the four, followed by the Amarrian Avatar class. Is that 'most utilized' or just 'most destroyed'? The attached chart shows how many were destroyed, sure, but I've heard that "Leviathans have so much EHP that not a single one was primaried or destroyed in B-R.", which implies that Leviathans see a lot more use than commonly-cited statistics seem to imply, a fact which is corroborated by Leviathans on B-R killmails.
Nathalie LaPorte wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:What do you think the new null sec cartel made stargates are going to connect to? Take wherever you think they are going to connect to, call it X. I predict the opposite of X. Reversed stupidity is not intelligence. Predicting the opposite time to what a stopped clock shows does not make you right any more often than the clock is. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
1076
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Posted - 2014.04.05 01:00:00 -
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Endovior wrote:Nathalie LaPorte wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:What do you think the new null sec cartel made stargates are going to connect to? Take wherever you think they are going to connect to, call it X. I predict the opposite of X. Reversed stupidity is not intelligence. Predicting the opposite time to what a stopped clock shows does not make you right any more often than the clock is.
You're right, but in this case we're talking about Dinsdale "Tinfoil" Pirannha suggesting that we're going to be able to access a server that exists purely because the goverment in question doesn't want any notions of free speech or independent thought coming in contact with its citizens. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
Endovior
Osmosis Inc Li3 Federation
226
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Posted - 2014.04.05 01:32:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Endovior wrote:Reversed stupidity is not intelligence. Predicting the opposite time to what a stopped clock shows does not make you right any more often than the clock is. You're right, but in this case we're talking about Dinsdale "Tinfoil" Pirannha suggesting that we're going to be able to access a server that exists purely because the goverment in question doesn't want any notions of free speech or independent thought coming in contact with its citizens. Granting the extreme unlikeliness of that particular contingency, my point remains; like a stopped clock, Dinsdale tends to continually assert the same things incorrectly. That doesn't mean that asserting the opposite of his points is a useful thing to do. It's one thing to say 'yeah, we probably won't get a connection to Serenity', but 'I predict the opposite of (a connection to Serenity)' isn't even a coherent statement. |
Bob Niac
Joint Espionage and Defence Industries Preatoriani
51
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Posted - 2014.04.05 03:38:00 -
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"I think we're gonna need a bigger boat."
So if we have Titans going pop like a kid with bubble wrap.. Does that mean there are more expensive capital ships on the horizon? I <3 Logistics: Pilot of all -áT2 logi and my shiny Archon [deceased.] Also a Chimera which may or may not be horrid. I don't make games, I play them. I get that ppl are passionate about change. I post here to plant seeds. You see your idea as is? Holy **** you win! So let's post, and see what the DEVs and our peers use. |
MotherSammy
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
50
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Posted - 2014.04.05 04:14:00 -
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Simply epic! |
TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
207
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Posted - 2014.04.05 04:40:00 -
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As mentioned before by CCP staff, mixing the servers won't be anywhere possible in the near future, but what I said then I still would like now;
It would be great if we could send out Incursions to the Chinese server, and they could to ours. Lets disrupt each-others servers... with a big impact. Maybe some more advanced Sasha waves as exist now. Also make it very expensive to do, so, its like a real event.
I do not roleplay, but I would envision something like this;
We Tranquility pay Sashas Nation to communicate with their dimensional counterparts in Serenity, that stuff (isk, goods, etc) is available to cause dismay everywhere in Serenity. Of course, Serenity could pay Sashas Nation to disrupt Tranquility.
This way the servers would not have to get a player connection, but we could troll each other a lot.
Maybe have a payment scale to disrupt the other's server;
Disrupt a system (price X) Disrupt a constellation (price X * A) Disrupt a region (price X * B) Disrupt all regions (price X * C) Etc...
Sounds like a nice meta-game, not?
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9362
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Posted - 2014.04.05 07:42:00 -
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Liner Xiandra wrote:With every post about Serenity, you're undermining your Single Shard, One Universe gimmick. But ok. I agree in principle, but really the only alternative would be to just not talk about it at all. I suppose they don't really talk about us much. Maybe in filtered terms. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1099
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Posted - 2014.04.05 13:35:00 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
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Oliver Stoned
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2014.04.05 14:57:00 -
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I believe things would be different on the Serenity server if some of the Tranquility Alliances (like Goonswarm) had access to it. |
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Internet Knight
The Kobayashi Maru
13
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Posted - 2014.04.05 17:49:00 -
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So, language barriers notwithstanding, how do I log in to Serenity as an American?
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
1420
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Posted - 2014.04.06 03:16:00 -
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Just a painful reminder of EVE not being single shard anymore.
"Alekseyev Karrde: mercenary of my heart." -Arydanika, Voices from the Void
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Kyros Emerson
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
17
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Posted - 2014.04.06 05:32:00 -
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It is sad that this was toted in the OP as 'breaking the record' set by the TQ battle of B-R for most destructive in history. As mentioned several times in other posts above, the number of titans destroyed may have been similar but the isk VALUE of the titans destroyed (which was the driving force behind the media storm for B-R) was no-where near what you see here in the Singularity 49-U battle. ISK Conversion to real money :: 1 Tranquility titan = 10 Singularity Titans
If I could RMT 100 titans on Singularity and then self-destruct them all would that break the record again?
Its a real red-hot-poker-to-the-eye to say an event that occurred on a geolocation-locked server (without the stringent security against RMT and such things) broke a record that was set by a huge number of legitimate players who fought hard for their isk and ships.
Come on CCP, that hurts. |
Brazos Pareka
Heavy Haul Unlimited Brothers of Tangra
4
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Posted - 2014.04.06 06:05:00 -
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Internet Knight wrote:So, language barriers notwithstanding, how do I log in to Serenity as an American?
That's very is easy if you want to log on the Serenity. They got English version also. The difficulty that all Chinese online game have to be launched juvenile protect system. It means you have to register a account with Chinese id number. if you don't , you will be regarded as juvenile. you can only play the game two hours per day.
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Markku Laaksonen
EVE University Ivy League
435
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Posted - 2014.04.06 14:54:00 -
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Kyros Emerson wrote:As mentioned several times in other posts above (without any kind of sources cited)... the isk VALUE of the titans destroyed... was no-where near what you see here... 1 Tranquility titan = 10 Singularity Titans
If I could RMT 100 titans on Singularity and then self-destruct them all would that break the record again?
[Serenity] (without the stringent security against RMT and such things) broke a record that was set by a huge number of legitimate players who fought hard for their isk and ships.
So I ask again, where's the facts to back up these claims? Are these first hand accounts from players on Serenity? Where is the evidence that botting is rampant on the Chinese server? Because right now every claim I've seen related to Botting on the Chinese server feels like a stereotype that because they're Chinese, and maybe a lot of botting gold farmers are Chinese, the Chinese EVE server must therefore be full of botting gold farmers.
What kind of evidence is there to support these claims? What is the Yuan cost of a PLEX on the Chinese server converted to USD? From there, what is the ISK:Yuan ratio compared to the ISK:USD ratio? Where are some facts to back this stuff up?
EDIT: I heavily edited the quote to get to the point of the matter and move past the "that hurts my feelings CCP cause they're all botters and I work hard for the ISK" mentality. The italicized section was added by me for emphasis. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/
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Internet Knight
The Kobayashi Maru
13
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Posted - 2014.04.06 18:47:00 -
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Brazos Pareka wrote:That's very easy if you want to log on the Serenity. They got English version also. The difficulty is that all Chinese online game have to be launched juvenile protect system. It means you have to register a account with Chinese id number. if you don't , you will be regarded as juvenile. you can only play the game two hours per day. As an American, would I be able to do that? Do you have any helpful stuff I can use to google around to figure it out on my own?
Does Serenity have its own forum URL and forum accounts so that an account on Serenity can't access here? Or are the accounts in the same "namespace" so to speak so that an account on Tranquility can also log in to Serenity? |
Brazos Pareka
Heavy Haul Unlimited Brothers of Tangra
5
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Posted - 2014.04.06 20:04:00 -
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Internet Knight wrote:Brazos Pareka wrote:That's very easy if you want to log on the Serenity. They got English version also. The difficulty is that all Chinese online game have to be launched juvenile protect system. It means you have to register a account with Chinese id number. if you don't , you will be regarded as juvenile. you can only play the game two hours per day. As an American, would I be able to do that? Do you have any helpful stuff I can use to google around to figure it out on my own? Does Serenity have its own forum URL and forum accounts so that an account on Serenity can't access here? Or are the accounts in the same "namespace" so to speak so that an account on Tranquility can also log in to Serenity?
No, an account on Tranquility can not log in to Serenity. That's absolutely two different account. And you need to download another client from Tiancity, and register an account in Tiancity.
This is the address of the home page. http://eve.tiancity.com/homepage/v5/ You can try to understand it by yourself. And I don't think there is any helpful stuff to google. So if you have any question or you really want to try playing Serenity, please send mail to me and ask.
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Brazos Pareka
Heavy Haul Unlimited Brothers of Tangra
6
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Posted - 2014.04.06 21:33:00 -
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Markku Laaksonen wrote:Kyros Emerson wrote:As mentioned several times in other posts above (without any kind of sources cited)... the isk VALUE of the titans destroyed... was no-where near what you see here... 1 Tranquility titan = 10 Singularity Titans
If I could RMT 100 titans on Singularity and then self-destruct them all would that break the record again?
[Serenity] (without the stringent security against RMT and such things) broke a record that was set by a huge number of legitimate players who fought hard for their isk and ships. So I ask again, where's the facts to back up these claims? Are these first hand accounts from players on Serenity? Where is the evidence that botting is rampant on the Chinese server? Because right now every claim I've seen related to Botting on the Chinese server feels like a stereotype that because they're Chinese, and maybe a lot of botting gold farmers are Chinese, the Chinese EVE server must therefore be full of botting gold farmers. What kind of evidence is there to support these claims? What is the Yuan cost of a PLEX on the Chinese server converted to USD? From there, what is the ISK:Yuan ratio compared to the ISK:USD ratio? Where are some facts to back this stuff up? EDIT: I heavily edited the quote to get to the point of the matter and move past the "that hurts my feelings CCP cause they're all botters and I work hard for the ISK" mentality. The italicized section was added by me for emphasis.
I can give you some numbers. A PLEX cost 60 yuan which is 9.6 USD. A PLEX cost 3.6B isk in Jita. The price of 100M isk is 1.45 yuan. You can buy 8 Abbadons if you sell a plex. A Tritanium worth 12 isk. There are a lot of reason of the high price of plex. Botting is one of the reasons. But of course, it's not the main reason. Here is some difference about PLEX between TQ and Serenity. You don't need to transfer character by isk (PLEX) forcefully. You can trade a character with real money freely. The reward of the buddy programme is not PLEX , but instead of adding game time directly. Tiancity never offer discount on PLEX. Don't ask me, I don't know why. So that, you can see there is less numbers of plex in the market. Of course, it will get higher price than Tranquility.
Back to botting issue. According to my short experience of playing TQ. I have to say it's really hard to judge which server 's botting is more rampant. I can see a lot of RMT website selling all things in TQ. And bot website sells bot which can even support win8, the serenity's bot still can only support win7. When I do mission in high sec, I found a lot of miner's fleet seemed like botting fleet in TQ.
There is a lot of botting in Serenity indeed, but is it more rampant than TQ?? I don't have enough information to judge that. |
Sgt Ocker
Last Bastion of Freedom
149
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Posted - 2014.04.07 02:26:00 -
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Internet Knight wrote:So, language barriers notwithstanding, how do I log in to Serenity as an American?
You can't; There is a reason China has game instances only available to the Chinese Residents.
Quote: CCP Sreegs People who do not live in China are absolutely in no way allowed to play on Serenity
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
24687
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Posted - 2014.04.07 23:51:00 -
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Wow, nice Dev Blog.
Definitely awe inspiring.
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Cedric deBouilard
PonyWaffe I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
72
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Posted - 2014.04.08 10:40:00 -
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I read the dev blog, and soon as I read that the events took place in serenity, I lost interest.
That's another universe. Simple as that. The game mechanics and engine might be the same, tactics might me similar. But that's another place. And has no organic connection to what I experience in here.
It's not my game simple as that.
The RL Chinese legislation might be forcing CCP's hands to operating a separate *shard* in China and I'm not going to argue whether it's right or wrong. I don't care. It's CCPs marketing / corporate decision and I can't simply care less.
Same as this article.
I tried to find something, anything of interest that might spark something in me. I simply couldn't. That is not to say I belittle the efforts & joy & losses of the people playing there, I'm not.
But it's their game, not mine.
and so I fail to grasp the reason behind this devblog. It's not about the shared EVE universe we all live in. It's about a Chinese clone / shard universe. Which has nothing to do with me. |
Huang Mo
Tianxia Inc
98
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Posted - 2014.04.09 15:10:00 -
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From the devblog
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Maybe this will help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xjU3n_cF1s Steamed buns can be really cool |
Alt Two
Caldari Capital Construction Inc.
120
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:32:00 -
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Quote:[...] players on Serenity managed to cram almost 400 more players into the system [...] Shouldn't this be: TianCity managed to cram almost 400 more players into the system than CCP could.
B-R's numbers weren't limited by the lack of interest from the players. It was the server not letting any more people in. So the question then becomes, why is a 3rd-party server host better at running CCP's game than CCP themselves? |
OSGOD
Siren's calll Fallen Defiance
13
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Posted - 2014.04.10 14:22:00 -
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LMAO the chinese server is not eve its a place for isk farmers, at least they don't have to worry about company infiltration like CCP has in the CSM and CCP . |
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