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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.04.04 21:04:00 -
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Grarr Dexx wrote:Here's an even better idea: learn up on lowsec, fight for it and get even more votes than just your initial intended target group. You mean hook up with some of the elected representatives to carry your voice. Yes, that's an excellent idea compared to doing nothing and hoping your point will be made for you anywayGǪ somehowGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Dersen Lowery
Laurentson INC StructureDamage
1084
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Posted - 2014.04.04 21:08:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Grarr Dexx wrote:Here's an even better idea: learn up on lowsec, fight for it and get even more votes than just your initial intended target group. You mean hook up with some of the elected representatives to carry your voice. Yes, that's an excellent idea compared to doing nothing and hoping your point will be made for you anywayGǪ somehowGǪ
Fortunately, some of them figured out the problem, and there's a very strong slate of lowsec candidates this year. Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables. |
Thead Enco
Killing is Business Get Off My Lawn
127
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Posted - 2014.04.04 21:10:00 -
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Soldarius wrote:As I read through the section of minutes regarding sov mechanics, I'm reminded of Russia's recent annexation of Crimea.
You didn't see the Russians burn everything before declaring Crimea now belongs to us. Effectively, they simply took down the TCU and put up their own. (A gross over-simplification. But you get the idea.)
So why do we have to burn everything to take sov? Food for thought.
Because
-á"A Lannister always pays his debts."
-áTyrion Lannister |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20460
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Posted - 2014.04.04 21:26:00 -
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Dersen Lowery wrote:Fortunately, some of them figured out the problem, and there's a very strong slate of lowsec candidates this year. Even better. It shouldn't even be difficult since iirc, you needed maybe 2,000 votes to get on it last time around, and even less than that before STV was implemented. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14966
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Posted - 2014.04.04 22:47:00 -
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Grarr Dexx wrote:not u lol nerd
Correct, since I declared 14 months ago I wasn't doing 2 terms.
Good luck with your SW:Q
1 Kings 12:11
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
9621
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:01:00 -
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Most of you probably should have learned this by now, but you're pretty much always best to ignore anything Malcanis posts.
There's some significant lowsec stuff that I'm looking forward to announcing a bit later in the pre-release rampup. Everyone should vote in the CSM elections, but we're not going to ignore any area of space no matter how few delegates they may have.
And no Grarr this doesn't mean we're going to lift the restriction on drone assist, you can stop asking. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14966
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:04:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Most of you probably should have learned this by now, but you're pretty much always best to ignore anything Malcanis posts (on any forum).
The Eagle is too powerful and grossly overused. It needs a brutal nerf.
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14967
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:09:00 -
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You know that already, right?
1 Kings 12:11
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Grarr Dexx
Snuff Box
338
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:12:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Most of you probably should have learned this by now, but you're pretty much always best to ignore anything Malcanis posts (on any forum).
There's some significant lowsec stuff that I'm looking forward to announcing a bit later in the pre-release rampup. Everyone should vote in the CSM elections, but we're not going to ignore any area of space no matter how few delegates they may have.
And no Grarr this doesn't mean we're going to lift the restriction on drone assist, you can stop asking.
"No, pirates aren't allowed access to all of EVE Online's features, you naughty space pilots!" |
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CCP Xhagen
C C P C C P Alliance
511
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:13:00 -
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SeneschaI wrote:finally! yay! "Session 16" wrote:Xhagen threw out a question to the CSM regarding the differences between corporation mechanics and the social aspect of corporations. Not as much 'differences' as 'handicaps' (mechanics that are beta programming dinosaurs) crippling the social aspects of corporations to the point where the CSM blindly agreed there's a "difference" between npc and player corps. Really? The comparison shouldn't by all rights even be in the same ballpark as an NPC corp. Makes you wonder how much reflection bitter vets have for the blinkered view they acquire. The fact the question elicited comments about NPC corps being comparable is proof positive people aren't looking at solutions beyond bandaids. The system is horrible. the fact that Xhagen's question provoked tepid response is horrifying to me and everyone who's been a CEO who at least tries to give power to the people (not just greedily hoard them for the directors/ceo as is the wont of the current overly complex, full of loopholes, paranoiac surrealistic nightmare mechanics) The actual response to Xhagen's question should have been a resounded "There's a vast gulf!" Good to know.
My line of thinking can also be described as "is the reason for forming a corp a social one or a game mechanic one?" and then the second thought is "would there be any benefit of having a social group, more than just a chat channel, without the baggage that corps are (i.e. the assets, wars, etc.)?" CCP Xhagen | Associate Producer | @strangelocation
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Chitsa Jason
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
1231
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:15:00 -
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I do approve everything Malcanis posts!
Edit: Except wormhole stuff CSM8 Member Twitter:-á@ChitsaJason Skype: Casparas
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Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
3430
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:15:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Grarr Dexx wrote:So cause we don't have the numbers to vote in a voice for lowsec on some arbitrary game council, lowsec is entirely irrelevant and off the map for updates? Great. No I mean because you didn't get off your flabby, oleaginous rumps and vote, there was no one on CSM8 with the lo-sec experience required to make sure that any lo-sec specific impact of the proposals discussed was raised. I hope this has been a valuable illustration of the value of the "sulk-whine-quit" strategy of political activism for you all. So: who you gonna vote for in CSM9? Why, DNSBLACK of course. After all, he owns Molden Heath (click on the ownership tab) Like any honest politician, "My door is always open, and my hand is always out" |
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CCP Xhagen
C C P C C P Alliance
511
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:19:00 -
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MailDeadDrop wrote:Regarding ship skins, I know that the current crop of 8 or 9 ship skins are done to test the waters. Can you (or someone) tell us when CCP plans to evaluate the success of that test? Will there be a devblog about it?
MDD We are gathering data and seeing how the usage of the skinned ships is now that they are a part of the larger economy. We will have to allow more time to pass before we can start communicating further. CCP Xhagen | Associate Producer | @strangelocation
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Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1125
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:19:00 -
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CCP Xhagen wrote:SeneschaI wrote:finally! yay! "Session 16" wrote:Xhagen threw out a question to the CSM regarding the differences between corporation mechanics and the social aspect of corporations. Not as much 'differences' as 'handicaps' (mechanics that are beta programming dinosaurs) crippling the social aspects of corporations to the point where the CSM blindly agreed there's a "difference" between npc and player corps. Really? The comparison shouldn't by all rights even be in the same ballpark as an NPC corp. Makes you wonder how much reflection bitter vets have for the blinkered view they acquire. The fact the question elicited comments about NPC corps being comparable is proof positive people aren't looking at solutions beyond bandaids. The system is horrible. the fact that Xhagen's question provoked tepid response is horrifying to me and everyone who's been a CEO who at least tries to give power to the people (not just greedily hoard them for the directors/ceo as is the wont of the current overly complex, full of loopholes, paranoiac surrealistic nightmare mechanics) The actual response to Xhagen's question should have been a resounded "There's a vast gulf!" Good to know. My line of thinking can also be described as "is the reason for forming a corp a social one or a game mechanic one?" and then the second thought is "would there be any benefit of having a social group, more than just a chat channel, without the baggage that corps are (i.e. the assets, wars, etc.)?"
It is entirely mechanical. All of the social aspects of a corp are replicated by having a common teamspeak and channel. In fact, a normal chat channel is much superior to a corp channel, since you can allow alts in. |
Markku Laaksonen
EVE University Ivy League
433
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:22:00 -
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Billy Hix wrote:Have the Dust minutes from the previous summit been completed yet?
This. Also, reserving this post for future editing to nag about the EVE-DUST link.
The last summit minutes on the EVE-DUST link were supposed to be made public 'very early' this year. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/
EVE Buddy Invite - https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=047203f1-4124-42a1-b36f-39ca8ae5d6e2&action=buddy
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14969
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:26:00 -
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Grarr Dexx wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:And no Grarr this doesn't mean we're going to lift the restriction on drone assist, you can stop asking. "No, pirates aren't allowed access to all of EVE Online's features, you naughty space pilots!"
Only dirty filthy blobbers in gangs of 11 or more are affected. Whay are you mad?
1 Kings 12:11
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mkint
1133
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:27:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Grarr Dexx wrote:So cause we don't have the numbers to vote in a voice for lowsec on some arbitrary game council, lowsec is entirely irrelevant and off the map for updates? Great. No I mean because you didn't get off your flabby, oleaginous rumps and vote, there was no one on CSM8 with the lo-sec experience required to make sure that any lo-sec specific impact of the proposals discussed was raised. I hope this has been a valuable illustration of the value of the "sulk-whine-quit" strategy of political activism for you all. So: who you gonna vote for in CSM9? Are you sure EVE has room for more than 1 big blue donut? Maxim 34: If you're leaving scorch-marks, you need a bigger gun. |
Markku Laaksonen
EVE University Ivy League
433
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:27:00 -
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A quick CTRL+F search for 'Dust' found two results for industry and a search for '514' found nothing. Guess I'll skim through these soon, but it looks like there was no mention of DUST in this summit. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/
EVE Buddy Invite - https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=047203f1-4124-42a1-b36f-39ca8ae5d6e2&action=buddy
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Grarr Dexx
Snuff Box
338
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:29:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Grarr Dexx wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:And no Grarr this doesn't mean we're going to lift the restriction on drone assist, you can stop asking. "No, pirates aren't allowed access to all of EVE Online's features, you naughty space pilots!" Only dirty filthy blobbers in gangs of 11 or more are affected. Whay are you mad?
It's good to know you don't even understand what the **** we're talking about. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14973
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:38:00 -
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Grarr Dexx wrote:Malcanis wrote:Grarr Dexx wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:And no Grarr this doesn't mean we're going to lift the restriction on drone assist, you can stop asking. "No, pirates aren't allowed access to all of EVE Online's features, you naughty space pilots!" Only dirty filthy blobbers in gangs of 11 or more are affected. Whay are you mad? It's good to know you don't even understand what the **** we're talking about.
If only the low sec community had pulled its thumb out of its ass and allowed that primary speech orifice to vote in its own interest, I'd have had someone to consult with to explain the issues to me in a coherent and convincing way, and then I would very likely have supported them.
If
Only
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mkint
1133
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:42:00 -
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CCP Xhagen wrote:SeneschaI wrote:finally! yay! "Session 16" wrote:Xhagen threw out a question to the CSM regarding the differences between corporation mechanics and the social aspect of corporations. Not as much 'differences' as 'handicaps' (mechanics that are beta programming dinosaurs) crippling the social aspects of corporations to the point where the CSM blindly agreed there's a "difference" between npc and player corps. Really? The comparison shouldn't by all rights even be in the same ballpark as an NPC corp. Makes you wonder how much reflection bitter vets have for the blinkered view they acquire. The fact the question elicited comments about NPC corps being comparable is proof positive people aren't looking at solutions beyond bandaids. The system is horrible. the fact that Xhagen's question provoked tepid response is horrifying to me and everyone who's been a CEO who at least tries to give power to the people (not just greedily hoard them for the directors/ceo as is the wont of the current overly complex, full of loopholes, paranoiac surrealistic nightmare mechanics) The actual response to Xhagen's question should have been a resounded "There's a vast gulf!" Good to know. My line of thinking can also be described as "is the reason for forming a corp a social one or a game mechanic one?" and then the second thought is "would there be any benefit of having a social group, more than just a chat channel, without the baggage that corps are (i.e. the assets, wars, etc.)?" Any time I start an alt, I put it in CAS. When I need to take that alt out of CAS for mechanics reasons, I always feel my EVE social experience is diminished. I like my corp. I've done the big corp thing, and it was pretty fun for a while, but a stressful mess. Now I'm doing the small corp thing, and even though we hardly see each other, I can't see myself leaving it. Now my EVE social experience is being bitter on the forums, and chatting in public channels. I think the only reason I never ended up just dropping into an NPC corp is because of the stigma of it. Being forced into a specific NPC corp sucks.
What is my ideal situation? It would be nice if there were non-political social channels or structures. Sort of a not-a-corp corp. Sort of like channels that build up around incursions except not limited to a specific activity. Maybe if it was a game mechanic that had a "club" structure... stuff you can do when you're not doing stuff with your corp. It wouldn't serve the nullbear big blue donut, at least until they start using it to poach recruits. But if it worked as intended, it might encourage otherwise solo-ish highsec-ers with nothing much to do to fleet up. Something worth thinking about, and could add value to the game, help with player retention, both new and vet. Maxim 34: If you're leaving scorch-marks, you need a bigger gun. |
BadAssMcKill
The Kawaii Corporation
708
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:42:00 -
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Do you mean the no assigning fighters in .4 space thing Grarr http://i.imgur.com/6j6cIZE.gif-á |
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1125
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Posted - 2014.04.04 23:48:00 -
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BadAssMcKill wrote:Do you mean the no assigning fighters in .4 space thing Grarr
No, he means that drone assign doesnt work properly in crimewatch areas, forcing him to instead resort to titan bridging t1 cruisers with absolutions instead of domis. |
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
708
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Posted - 2014.04.05 00:04:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Most of you probably should have learned this by now, but you're pretty much always best to ignore anything Malcanis posts (on any forum). The Eagle is too powerful and grossly overused. It needs a brutal nerf.
i know you bump into an eagle at every gate .. sometimes a swirling mass of them like swarms :) Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name.. remove drone assist mechanic. Nerf web strength ..... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
Myxx
694
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Posted - 2014.04.05 00:14:00 -
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What I get from this is that CCP has essentially ceased any new content creation and that expansions are now just large bugfixes and QOL patches.
Am I correct? I see no proof otherwise. |
Phoenix Jones
Dropbears Anonymous Brave Collective
457
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Posted - 2014.04.05 00:19:00 -
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Threads been up for hours.. only hit page 3? ... oh you put it in the Info Portal and not the general forums.
Avoiding the thread-naught aren't we :-) Stabbers are totally broken
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15116553
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Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
708
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Posted - 2014.04.05 00:23:00 -
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Myxx wrote:What I get from this is that CCP has essentially ceased any new content creation and that expansions are now just large bugfixes and QOL patches.
Am I correct? I see no proof otherwise.
there are so many things that need fixing and/or updating .. there is a long que before any real new content ... Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name.. remove drone assist mechanic. Nerf web strength ..... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20465
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Posted - 2014.04.05 00:24:00 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote:Threads been up for hours.. only hit page 3? ... oh you put it in the Info Portal and not the general forums.
Avoiding the thread-naught aren't we :-) Yes, by putting this thread where they always are (and with the usual direct link from the blog), they're trying to ensure that no-one will have any chance of finding itGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
935
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Posted - 2014.04.05 00:40:00 -
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Good format, length and useful content - thanks. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Beofryn Sedorak
3
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Posted - 2014.04.05 01:04:00 -
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Zappity wrote:Good format, length and useful content - thanks.
Bet you say that to all the boys! |
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