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Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
361
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Posted - 2014.04.06 04:44:00 -
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Goa Chai wrote: see how long it takes before they're watching Youtube videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LdPf2J_hs it's a trap!
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
3379
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Posted - 2014.04.06 05:13:00 -
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I have 5 paid annual subscriptions, so 5 * $10.95 = $54.75 per month.
My Internet costs $55.36 per month.
Obviously I think EVE is worth it.
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Bruce Kemp
Suddenly taken over
106
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Posted - 2014.04.06 05:37:00 -
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Get out now, while you can. |
Mildew Wolf
171
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Posted - 2014.04.06 05:42:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Mildew Wolf wrote:If ~33 cents a day is a significant enough ammount of money in your life to warrant this post there are probably better things you could be doing with your time than eve That pic O.o wtf
another successful mildew wolf posting op |
Don Aubaris
102
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Posted - 2014.04.06 05:46:00 -
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Naomi Sagan wrote:So my questions are:
a.) How often does EvE receive expansions? b.) Compared to the latest Rubicon, how large are the additions? c.) How often are sales held? (Like the Winter sale where prices had been reduced 50% iirc) d.) Has any information been released as to what the subscription money goes toward such as statistical breakdowns?
Thanks a bunch!
There is the winter-expansion and the summer-expansion. And lots and lots and lots of patches in between. The size of the expansion is a much harder question. It's usually more changing, improving and expanding on what exists then adding really completely new stuff, I find. And even if they add stuff, who says you will be able to do that as a rather new pilot? In my experience about 60% of the expansion is irrelevant to a new player or your playstyle (if you don't fly supercaps, then you really don't care what they do with them ), 30% are changes that really pisses you off (because the devs are changing something you worked hard for to achieve. Like reprocessing in the next expansion) and with about 10% you are actually happy. Luckely you usually get enough you out the 10% to still find it interesting.
But I think you are asking your questions way too early. After 4 months you probably only have scratched the surface of Eve. There is so much to do. Your skillpoints will perhaps let you do everything at the lowest level, but not efficient. And being good at something is half the fun.
If you enjoy Eve, then continue playing till you have done it all and have real reason to get bored and need something absolutely new. |
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
201
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Posted - 2014.04.06 07:32:00 -
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Naomi Sagan wrote: I feel they are very bad values that offer token paybacks and bare-bone additions compared to the revenue earned.
No! Just No! Just say NO! Don't wreck your life, it's not worth it! Think of the Children! Little Tommy and his shoes. Little Sarah and that loose baby tooth! No, just say no! Look, you'll start having horrible nightmares, fluffy little kittens pouncing on your dreams all night long! You know how humiliating it is to wake up with memories of furballs in your mouth?!? >.< It's like having a limb slowly sawed off with a dull razor and then you still feel the limb years later, oh the furballs!!! No-no! you must cancel your account immediately! Well... after you send my your stuff. Can I haz ur stuff?
Just remember, if you keep playing, you may attract the attention of *looks around and whispers* ....the 'mothership' and you don't want thaaat... *slaps the cloaky button and vanishes* GÇö+¬GÇö |
Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
460
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Posted - 2014.04.06 07:49:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Naomi Sagan wrote:a.) How often does EvE receive expansions? b.) Compared to the latest Rubicon, how large are the additions? c.) How often are sales held? (Like the Winter sale where prices had been reduced 50% iirc) d.) Has any information been released as to what the subscription money goes toward such as statistical breakdowns? a) twice a year. b) depends entirely on how you define the word "Content". c) prices on... PLEX? depends. Sometimes is on sale through CCP, sometimes on sale through Amazon, usually around "patchspansions" and events. d) Nope. We just go with 50% "keeping DUST afloat" and 50% Al-anon meetings. Actually, IIRC, DUST is actually making more money than it's costing.
I know, sorcery, magic, etc'. I was surprised at this myself. Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |
Adrie Atticus
Unicorn Love Hurts
56
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Posted - 2014.04.06 08:27:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:The way I see it...
- a monthly gym membership is about $10 to $20 a month and, on average, people don't go to it more than 3 days a week for an hour or two at a time.
As far as entertainment and services go... EVE is a bargin.
Cheapest local gym here is either $117/mo + $25 signup + $15 for magnetic card or $63/mo if you go for a 24-month package, including the signup and magnetic card. |
Demica Diaz
SE-1
138
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Posted - 2014.04.06 11:53:00 -
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I asked same question as OP. My time is running out in 12 days or so. I decided to let it run out and do something else as past two months I have done nothing but queue new skills tbh. Maybe break from EVE is good. Hate me away but I kinda subbed to EVE because of promise of WiS... since that hasnt really been successful nor devs even want to continue it, I just chill until something else but "ship balance" happens. Then I surely come back to roam space.
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Cheng Musana
Purple Space Ponys AAA Citizens
63
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Posted - 2014.04.06 12:21:00 -
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I dont think its worth the money. For my taste the content thats beeing added is not really "overwhelming". The mayor additions to this games in the last expansions:
-3 new ships (SOE) -ghost sites -changes to scanning
The other stuff is rebalancing and doesnt really count as "new content" in my eyes. And no ship skins are not new content at all. What they just did was adding new colours to ships which got inspired from here: http://www.eohgames.com/labs/Ships/Aliastra%20Talos
Hell even dust is getting more stuff then eve. The latest patch got them 3 new guns, 3 new suits and the ability to cloak themself. And the irony is that Dust is F2P. So why should you pay for eve which gets less content then a F2P game on the PS3? |
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3114
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Posted - 2014.04.06 13:02:00 -
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I come from the archaic past where a person would normally have spent $40-60 for A SINGLE new Genesis or SNES cartridge each, so $15/-ú10 a month for EvE is not a bother to me, as that $/-ú in 1992 money is like $5 *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
174
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Posted - 2014.04.06 13:05:00 -
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Malcanis wrote: "Call it what you may, but for $120 a year I expect quite a bit of content to be added"
CCP have already added a gigantic amount of new features and content. Have you explored even 10% of what there is to do in-game?
From your PoV, what's the value difference between $NEW_FEATURE and $FEATURE_I_HAVENT_TRIED_YET ? Surely as long as there is new stuff for you to do, the difference is moot. Indeed, already existing features will be bug checked, updated and polished.
I wouldn't really call adding a few mods, ships, content. Content would be wormhole systems.
The game blows for newer players, and it takes a year to train basic skills. You will be nothing less than easy prey for the lame. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3114
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Posted - 2014.04.06 13:12:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote: The game blows for newer players, and it takes a year to train basic skills. You will be nothing less than easy prey for the lame.
If you call flying a Carrier basic
A friend of mine has been playing for 9 months, in high, low, null and WH. She just cleared T3.
At no point has she been podded and she has been running sites, doing missions and some PvP all through that time.
If you cant do anything with Frigate 3, Industrial 2, Mining 1, and basic scanning skills, you are not using your abilities to their fullest.
And if you let yourself be killed because you werent paying attention or did research, then it is not hte attacker who is lame, Im afraid. *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
585
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Posted - 2014.04.06 14:28:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:The way I see it...
- a bottle of so-so wine or 6-pack of beer is about $10 and usually won't last 2 or 3 days (maybe not even a day if you're like me). - a NICE meal at a restaurant is about $10 to $15 and won't last more than 30 minutes to an hour. - a monthly gym membership is about $10 to $20 a month and, on average, people don't go to it more than 3 days a week for an hour or two at a time. - a good night at the bar with friends will EASILY cost $50 and MAYBE you remember about 3 hours of the experience, followed by hours of pain the morning after.
- EVE costs about $15 a month (less if you get an extended subscriptoon) and allows you unlimited access for 30 days to a world where you can freely interact (for better or worse) with several thousand of similar people (see: nerds) in ways that can keep you occupied for hours.
As far as entertainment and services go... EVE is a bargin. loving the drinking analogy catching on. Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-áIf In Doubt....Do....Excessively. Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
516
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Posted - 2014.04.06 18:51:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:- a NICE meal at a restaurant is about $10 to $15 and won't last more than 30 minutes to an hour.
As far as entertainment and services go... EVE is a bargin.
where are you eating!? $10-15 is like chipotle or five guys, hardly what I would call a "NICE" meal. I doubt I'd consider a meal nice unless it was in the $30+ range. real easy to get in that range with an app, and a drink.
although the rest I completely agree. According to eveboard I've been logged in for 2h 16m 44s a day for the last 7 years so... You can trust me, I have a monocole |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
5115
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Posted - 2014.04.06 20:30:00 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:- a NICE meal at a restaurant is about $10 to $15 and won't last more than 30 minutes to an hour.
As far as entertainment and services go... EVE is a bargin. where are you eating!? $10-15 is like chipotle for five guys, hardly what I would call a "NICE" meal. I doubt I'd consider a meal nice unless it was in the $30+ range. real easy to get in that range with an app, and a drink. although the rest I completely agree. According to eveboard I've been logged in for 2h 16m 44s a day for the last 7 years so... ~ $8 buys me a single burrito from Chipotle (San Fransisco is expensive yo!). Granted, it's heavy enough to be considered 2 meals in one though.
A "nice meal" for me sitting down in a small mom-pop place and having an entree with a glass of wine/beer (entrees $7 to $10... wine/beer $3.50 to $6). Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?" |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1233
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Posted - 2014.04.06 21:29:00 -
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I have been playing for 3 years and I feel I am getting my money's worth on the annual pay plan. I define the value of a video game by the hours I can spend on it and still enjoy myself. By pulling API data I can confirm that Eve has an extremely good price/time ration compared to most console games.
Eve costs about 2 full-price console games per year. Generally I stick 120 hours in a good RPG, so say 240 hours: that's ten days (24 hr), which translates to about 6 'major' play sessions of 4 hours per year to get the same ratio as a console game. I can pull API account data that puts my 40+ Xbox collection to shame.
I'm not a fan of subscription models either, but seeing the quality and support of F2P games I'll gladly make an exeption for Eve. |
Ikshuki
Aliastra Gallente Federation
23
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Posted - 2014.04.06 23:21:00 -
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hmmmmm is eve worth renewing. That depend on a number of facts:
1. Do you like using your brain? 2. Do you play 4 hours or more per day? 3. Do you only play eve? 4. Do you live and breath pvp where there is a lot of situations where you are greatly disadvantaged?
These are key factors to what is required to be worth continuing playing eve online, this is a unique game where it makes you earn your way up over time, effort, and energy just to progress. Not a game for the casuals, the moment you go casual is the moment you get bored from eve. You really need to be a hardcore player with a lot of free time on your hands to fully enjoy this game |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1548
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Posted - 2014.04.06 23:24:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:The way I see it...
- a bottle of so-so wine or 6-pack of beer is about $10 and usually won't last 2 or 3 days (maybe not even a day if you're like me). - a NICE meal at a restaurant is about $10 to $15 and won't last more than 30 minutes to an hour. - a monthly gym membership is about $10 to $20 a month and, on average, people don't go to it more than 3 days a week for an hour or two at a time. - a good night at the bar with friends will EASILY cost $50 and MAYBE you remember about 3 hours of the experience, followed by hours of pain the morning after.
- EVE costs about $15 a month (less if you get an extended subscriptoon) and allows you unlimited access for 30 days to a world where you can freely interact (for better or worse) with several thousand similar people (see: nerds) in ways that can keep you occupied for hours.
As far as entertainment and services go... EVE is a bargain.
edit: here's another way to look at it... you have probably spent more money on dumber **** that provides way less in the form of enjoyment. *pokes anatomically correct ukulele girl toy on desk*
STOP, RIGHT THERE.
Tell me more about this ukulele girl. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds Affirmative.
3949
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Posted - 2014.04.07 02:49:00 -
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Naomi Sagan wrote:Hello, I'm in a bit of a conflict over EvE and was wondering if some of the more experienced players could help me out. I'm a first time player who bought a 6-month subscription 4 months ago after hearing how deep of a game EvE is, but in the next two months I need to decide whether or not I want to keep playing. I confess I'm very torn. On one hand I like EvE. ItGÇÖs a deep and fun experience if you play with the right people. The community in general, disregarding the PvP - PvE arguments, is very helpful and knowledgeable and I love what EvE can do on both micro and macro scales. Yet on the other-hand I admit I have no love at all for subscription models. I feel they are very bad values that offer token paybacks and bare-bone additions compared to the revenue earned. Call it what you may, but for $120 a year I expect quite a bit of content to be added; at minimum a stand-alone $60 game worth. Yet in all the subscription games I've ever tried (EvE discounted because I have little experience here) it's the equivalent of one or two small DLCs a year.
So my questions are:
a.) How often does EvE receive expansions? b.) Compared to the latest Rubicon, how large are the additions? c.) How often are sales held? (Like the Winter sale where prices had been reduced 50% iirc) d.) Has any information been released as to what the subscription money goes toward such as statistical breakdowns?
Thanks a bunch!
a.) 2 major expansions a year (one during the summer (usually June) and one during winter (usually December) - Other then that, there is the on going patches. b.) Similar in size but it highly depends on the expansion itself. I've seen expansions that hardly added new stuff but fixed a lot of existing stuff to be better (and a complete overhaul that it kind of was something new) aswel as expansions that added really new stuff to the game (Incarna / Incursion to name 2). c.) Randomly. I wouldn't be surprised their next one is during / around FanFest. d.) Watch FanFest stream...should give you a great overview what CCP does with your money (other then making their own musicvideos, launching model pods/rifters into space). Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds Affirmative.
3949
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Posted - 2014.04.07 02:55:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Naomi Sagan wrote:Hello, I'm in a bit of a conflict over EvE and was wondering if some of the more experienced players could help me out. I'm a first time player who bought a 6-month subscription 4 months ago after hearing how deep of a game EvE is, but in the next two months I need to decide whether or not I want to keep playing. I confess I'm very torn. On one hand I like EvE. ItGÇÖs a deep and fun experience if you play with the right people. The community in general, disregarding the PvP - PvE arguments, is very helpful and knowledgeable and I love what EvE can do on both micro and macro scales. Yet on the other-hand I admit I have no love at all for subscription models. I feel they are very bad values that offer token paybacks and bare-bone additions compared to the revenue earned. Call it what you may, but for $120 a year I expect quite a bit of content to be added; at minimum a stand-alone $60 game worth. Yet in all the subscription games I've ever tried (EvE discounted because I have little experience here) it's the equivalent of one or two small DLCs a year.
So my questions are:
a.) How often does EvE receive expansions? b.) Compared to the latest Rubicon, how large are the additions? c.) How often are sales held? (Like the Winter sale where prices had been reduced 50% iirc) d.) Has any information been released as to what the subscription money goes toward such as statistical breakdowns?
Thanks a bunch! "Call it what you may, but for $120 a year I expect quite a bit of content to be added" CCP have already added a gigantic amount of new features and content. Have you explored even 10% of what there is to do in-game? From your PoV, what's the value difference between $NEW_FEATURE and $FEATURE_I_HAVENT_TRIED_YET ? Surely as long as there is new stuff for you to do, the difference is moot. Indeed, already existing features will be bug checked, updated and polished.
Very good point Malcanis.
Before you have actually explored and did any possible thing with at least a little bit of efficiency, you are looking at months if not years of gameplay spent. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds Affirmative.
3949
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Posted - 2014.04.07 02:59:00 -
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Demica Diaz wrote:I asked same question as OP. My time is running out in 12 days or so. I decided to let it run out and do something else as past two months I have done nothing but queue new skills tbh. Maybe break from EVE is good. Hate me away but I kinda subbed to EVE because of promise of WiS... since that hasnt really been successful nor devs even want to continue it, I just chill until something else but "ship balance" happens. Then I surely come back to roam space.
Whut?
You started to play EVE because of something they actually put on indefinate hold back in 2011.... Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds Affirmative.
3949
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Posted - 2014.04.07 03:01:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote: I wouldn't really call adding a few mods, ships, content. Content would be wormhole systems.
The game blows for newer players, and it takes a year to train basic skills. You will be nothing less than easy prey for the lame.
So much wrong in 1 post... Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20498
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Posted - 2014.04.07 03:05:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote:The game blows for newer players, and it takes a year to train basic skills. You will be nothing less than easy prey for the lame. Yeah, no. See sig. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
562
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Posted - 2014.04.07 03:31:00 -
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Naomi Sagan wrote:Hello, I'm in a bit of a conflict over EvE and was wondering if some of the more experienced players could help me out. I'm a first time player who bought a 6-month subscription 4 months ago after hearing how deep of a game EvE is, but in the next two months I need to decide whether or not I want to keep playing. I confess I'm very torn. On one hand I like EvE. ItGÇÖs a deep and fun experience if you play with the right people. The community in general, disregarding the PvP - PvE arguments, is very helpful and knowledgeable and I love what EvE can do on both micro and macro scales. Yet on the other-hand I admit I have no love at all for subscription models. I feel they are very bad values that offer token paybacks and bare-bone additions compared to the revenue earned. Call it what you may, but for $120 a year I expect quite a bit of content to be added; at minimum a stand-alone $60 game worth. Yet in all the subscription games I've ever tried (EvE discounted because I have little experience here) it's the equivalent of one or two small DLCs a year.
So my questions are:
a.) How often does EvE receive expansions? b.) Compared to the latest Rubicon, how large are the additions? c.) How often are sales held? (Like the Winter sale where prices had been reduced 50% iirc) d.) Has any information been released as to what the subscription money goes toward such as statistical breakdowns?
Thanks a bunch!
TBH most long time players continue to play because they do not want to feel like they have WASTED the last xx (insert # here) years of their life.
Others stay for relationships they have built. Lets be real because should some of these people find someone to be friends with even in a video game they really need to hold to that. |
Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
365
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Posted - 2014.04.07 03:40:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote:
I wouldn't really call adding a few mods, ships, content. Content would be wormhole systems.
The game blows for newer players, and it takes a year to train basic skills. You will be nothing less than easy prey for the lame.
FW alt? 2 minutes in-game and you joined a FW corp. 3 months training you should be doing ok to great depending on what you do even w/o funding from your other character. Around when FW was broken beyond fubar and untouched for years? You've probably been popped by newbies with less SP. Not meant as an insult, just the way mechanics work; I don't see how you can say they are at a great disadvantage. If you were here back when FW was fubar, perhaps you would have a different opinion of content. However, that doesn't change the definition of content in any way, which you missed.
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Balshem Rozenzweig
Akademia Milicyjna The North is Coming
39
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Posted - 2014.04.07 08:10:00 -
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I joined FW when my character was 10 days old. Since then I've been doing low sec pvp. FW is all I do realy. And I'm having fun.
For all this time I haven't designed a good ship fit. Just reuse what others came up with. So after 6 months I still don't have a clue.
When I join wow clone I start a tank, spam the death and decay version they've implemented and do boss fights I've already seen. GW 2 is suppose to be different only it's too little, too late.
I play eve because it's unique, and cut throat player base demands you to get better. The bar is set high so you get a feeling you're crawling instead of playing, but it's only because we were spoiled by other games really. IT might be a niche game, but this is it's main advantage. Usual corporation just thinks you're an idiot who cannot see it's the same skill behind different graphical effect.
Answering here is kinda pointless since I don't know that you want, but this is what hooked me in. Singature Radius 48 m |
Webvan
State Protectorate Caldari State
367
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Posted - 2014.04.07 08:42:00 -
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Balshem Rozenzweig wrote:but it's only because we were spoiled by other games Ah the early days of UO, the wild west of mmo's, player corpses everywhere. Or getting completely lost in EQ, eaten by ghouls, waiting for daylight so you can search for your corpse. I really liked that stuff. Yes, few mmo's left that don't persistently force you to hold their hand. And many of those old games that required survival technique have long since converted to this new style of easy gaming. Don't worry, not missing anything with gw2, they broke nearly every one of those promises within the first few month, it's all about the RMT chance boxes now pretty much, moooo.
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Gregor Parud
423
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Posted - 2014.04.07 08:44:00 -
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Naomi Sagan wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Naomi Sagan wrote:a.) How often does EvE receive expansions? b.) Compared to the latest Rubicon, how large are the additions? c.) How often are sales held? (Like the Winter sale where prices had been reduced 50% iirc) d.) Has any information been released as to what the subscription money goes toward such as statistical breakdowns? a) twice a year. b) depends entirely on how you define the word "Content". c) prices on... PLEX? depends. Sometimes is on sale through CCP, sometimes on sale through Amazon, usually around "patchspansions" and events. d) Nope. We just go with 50% "keeping DUST afloat" and 50% Al-anon meetings. b.) Well anything apart from balancing tweaks I would consider content. New models, textures, features, game-play additions, etc. Pretty much anything that adds more value to the game. c.) Account time for the most part. Last November if I recall right, account-time prices had been reduced to 8 USD per month. Thank you Unsuccessful. :P
Without having read the rest of the thread I'm going to point out the following:
Grind/lvl based MMO's need new content ever so often to keep giving you gear/level goals so you keep playing and grinding, doing new quests. Not so in EVE because it's a sandbox and it has no levels, it doesn't need new content since its content comes from the players.
So all the game needs is for CCP to make stuff work, to continuously work on balancing and once in awhile add more sparkly bits. |
Balshem Rozenzweig
Akademia Milicyjna The North is Coming
40
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Posted - 2014.04.07 08:51:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Balshem Rozenzweig wrote:but it's only because we were spoiled by other games Ah the early days of UO, the wild west of mmo's, player corpses everywhere. Or getting completely lost in EQ, eaten by ghouls, waiting for daylight so you can search for your corpse. I really liked that stuff. Yes, few mmo's left that don't persistently force you to hold their hand. And many of those old games that required survival technique have long since converted to this new style of easy gaming. Don't worry, not missing anything with gw2, they broke nearly every one of those promises within the first few month, it's all about the RMT chance boxes now pretty much, moooo.
Yeah - the F2P models is the most depressing thing that happened to MMOs. You have to constantly pump cash in to un-break your game.
There are some out there that allow you to just progress slower when playing for free, but I've always found paying certain amount of cash per month to be more reasonable paying model.
HINT - most F2P require you to invest more that usual P2P game. Over any length of time. Singature Radius 48 m |
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