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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2014.04.09 06:23:00 -
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Mrs Mayo wrote:If Eve Radio are not scamming real life cash then at there end it will be easy to prove of course.
I am only basing off information I have been provided.
Surely an entity who CCP affiliate themselves with via the time codes should have to validate the amount of real life cash they ask for from eve players on a monthly basis to continue doing what they do?
If you suspect a real life money scam, I am sure CCP will be glad to have you provide the details to them.
Bad mouthing Eve Radio (which I never listen to) in the forums based on unsubstantiated rumors will probably get you a smack of the ban hammer, and deservedly so. This is not a signature. |
Mrs Mayo
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.04.09 06:25:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:Mrs Mayo wrote:Eve Radio ask for donations to keep them on air. Surely the community has a right to see a breakdown or audit or our real life cash that they tell us is needed on a monthly basis? No? Well, it is good to have those things when you are donating. I do donate, but to an animal care and they do have audit published annually. I've heard on good authority that the cream milked from donations helps pay a few rl bills.
I have made no direct allegations however.
Ignore my advice and keep donating if you so please. |
Asia Leigh
Beyond New Frontier
106
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Posted - 2014.04.09 06:25:00 -
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Mrs Mayo wrote:If you people want to continue being scammed then so be it. The majority of you posting in this thread more than likely don't pay cash to eve radio. To those who do:
And you are going to enlighten us with all this proof you have they are scamming when exactly? Erotica 1: Scams someone-á-á Ripard: Makes inflamatory blog post that incites eve community and the MMO community-á Sohkar: I wasn't harrased-á-á-á-áCCP: Banned-á-á-á Moral of this story? If you don't want to get banned, don't **** off CSM |
Mrs Mayo
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.04.09 06:31:00 -
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Marvin Narville wrote:Mrs Mayo wrote:If you people want to continue being scammed then so be it. The majority of you posting in this thread more than likely don't pay cash to eve radio. To those who do: Except you haven't "proven" anyone is being scammed I can't prove anything unless Eve Radio provide a breakdown of costs.
If you apply the principles of what people say in this game about things being too good to be true then the same applies to Eve Radio surely?.
If Eve Radio says it needs x amount of rl cash a month then absent any form of proof you should believe them rite?.
But hey, i'll quintuple your isk in game, honest, just sayin'
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Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
953
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Posted - 2014.04.09 06:39:00 -
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Who cares? Don't like them? Don't donate. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Jin Tao Han
Blue Lantern Trading
0
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Posted - 2014.04.09 06:39:00 -
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-ú500 a month to run multiple servers, huge amounts of bandwidth, online 24/7, website hosting, payment for broadcast licenses, payment for software licenses. Doesn't sound ridiculous (on bandwidth costs alone to be honest), if you actually know anything about hosting and servers and broadcast on a business level. And about half of the on air ER idents say "part of the Gaming Radio network", so if you actually pay attention ER being part of GRN is not secret at all .
So.
What did they do, kick you from channel for being an arse?
Or are you just another New Eden Radio troll taking underhanded shots at the competition - if anyone brings EULA to the table they do with recycled alts auto piloting round systems broadcasting local channel spam (Dodixie gets flooded by their DJ's as well) and wardecs from fanbois against anyone who complains about it.
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Dusty Meg
Poseidon Energy and Industrial
97
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Posted - 2014.04.09 06:40:00 -
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The greater radio network you like to talk about is the Gaming Radio Network, it only holds EVE-Radio and Subspace radio currently, a few years ago they had other stations for other games but thats in the past now. And they dont hide this its talked about alot.
When they are running a big beefy server able to broadcast, a jukebox server constantly, and when a DJ is on 3 different qualities of stream. And this is for both stations, the processing power is getting up here. They have the websites to look at aswell, and I believe they also have a video streaming service running on those servers, but that was also abit ago. Also on top they have the rewind, which hosts all the shows for a month if your a subscriber.
Not to mention all the licenses you need to pay for to actually stream the music, thats where alot of the money probally goes.
So atm you just seem to be wanting to troll on a fansite that's been around since EVE Beta, and was a hand in creating the Alliance Tournament, and gives alot back to the community when the DJ's arnt paid.
I think I also remember from awhile ago someone saying that the money they ask for is actually only half of their actual costs, the guy thats been paying for it for the last 10+ years has been covering about half of the running costs to keep the station alive.
Just to say im just a long term listener of EVE-Radio Creater of the EVE animated influence map http://www.youtube.com/user/DustMityEVE |
Jallukola
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.09 06:41:00 -
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I don't even listen to EVE Radio, but is there like, proof of this happening? Even if it would turn out to be a scam, blind accusations just because someone thinks wrong, is in my opinion inexcusable too. |
Vanria Vexed
Posiden Industrial
22
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Posted - 2014.04.09 06:41:00 -
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I donate 4 dollars a month... it's 4 dollars I don't care about parting with. I don't even have to pay them to listen to the stream, I choose too. As long as they keep streaming, I don't care wether or not ER reaches(or really needs) it's monthly donation amount. If they stop streaming I'll stop giving money, simple. Playing EVE at times feels like putting a 10000 piece puzzle together, enjoying the accomplishment of succedding in completing it, then having some random stranger walk by and flip your table over. |
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ISD Gallifreyan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
299
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Posted - 2014.04.09 06:45:00 -
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This thread is being reviewed. Stay tuned for updates...... ISD Gallifreyan Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCL) Interstellar Services Department |
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PrettyMuch Always Right
University of Caille Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2014.04.09 07:52:00 -
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It is kind of a "scam", but it's also alright. Most times people ask for donations - be it ISK or out-of-game resources - they will be keeping a share of it for themselves.
For many it will be just a few %, for others a larger chunk.
Within the realm of EVE and the EVE community, I do not have a problem with this. People choose to give him money for his site, he can choose to keep most of it if he pleases. They don't have to donate if they aren't satisfied with the evidence he provides of it's proper use.
ISD Gallifreyan wrote:This Topic Has been Closed Not so sure about that |
Koz Katral
Sanctuary of Shadows
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Posted - 2014.04.09 08:29:00 -
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Can't decide if OP is trolling or just not very smart. |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.09 09:00:00 -
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How is that any of your business in the first place?
People like you should be abolished. |
Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
299
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Posted - 2014.04.09 09:01:00 -
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Op is a troll alt that was created specifically to troll Erotica 1 back before he got banned. He is clearly starting a witch hunt against Eve Radio for displaying Erotica in a semi-positive light and being critical of Ripard Teg for being a terrible CSM member and all-around douche. Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM! |
Balshem Rozenzweig
Akademia Milicyjna The North is Coming
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Posted - 2014.04.09 09:01:00 -
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We should ban the Internet! It's a place you can be unsafe in! Singature Radius 48 m |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
160
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Posted - 2014.04.09 09:08:00 -
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As this thread is already officially marked for closure (I reported the apparently missing closed door) this thread now is declared as lawless space
Anything goes!
Here is a friendly reminder of a seriously important issue:
The word ***** gets censored, but the word Vagina doesn't.
Sexism! |
Klymer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
541
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Posted - 2014.04.09 09:12:00 -
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wait...people give real money to people who ask for it via the internet? |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
160
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Posted - 2014.04.09 09:18:00 -
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Klymer wrote:wait...people give real money to people who ask for it via the internet? Would you have a dollar for our lord and saviour, Scrooge McDuck? |
Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2014.04.09 09:23:00 -
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People are actually giving them money?
Allmylols. ------------ |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1821
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Posted - 2014.04.09 09:58:00 -
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After seeing the lack of argument/proof from the OP.........also, your tinfoil hat is slanted.
I know a DJ IRL.......(Go Hangedman!) I've also been on a few dozen shows.
These people ask for what, $500/month for Maintenance, ISP fees, Prizes,. Not to mention that each and every DJ has to pay for these out of their own pocket (client side), and on top of that they donate their time and Money to pay for the music to play to the audience... For free!
**** it!
If they are "Scamming" as you claim. $500 split between.......exactly how many people? Oh totally worth it!
Now what? You'll say that its one guy scamming everyone including the DJs for what? $500/month!
Dude, whatever drug you're on, pass it to the rest of us! New player experience, more highsec PvE missions, casual play, balance, counters to AFK cloaking, expanding the NEX store, and Power Projection.
Azami Nevinyrall for CSM9! |
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Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1821
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Posted - 2014.04.09 10:06:00 -
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ISD Gallifreyan wrote:This Topic Has been Closed Hey, uuummmmmm, ISD dude........you forgot the click the "lock" button... New player experience, more highsec PvE missions, casual play, balance, counters to AFK cloaking, expanding the NEX store, and Power Projection.
Azami Nevinyrall for CSM9! |
Pew Terror
Green Associates TITANS.
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Posted - 2014.04.09 10:27:00 -
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In after the lock |
Precurseur
Norrskensdrommar Game Of Bears
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Posted - 2014.04.09 10:27:00 -
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Mrs Mayo wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Mrs Mayo wrote:No? No. If you make a donation the money no longer belongs to you and you have no right to demand an explanation of anything. If you have concerns, then don't give them any money. Eve Radio DJ's are not above the EULA. I have asked Eve Radio to give a breakdown of the real life cash amount they ask for to keep the station on air on a monthly basis. If there is nothing to hide then transparency to appease these requests shouldn't be difficult. All i have suggested is absent audit, things might not be quite as they seem.
If you make a donation then you've "donated" your money and given it away. It's not yours any more, you had a choice to either donate it or not and if you make the decision to do so then you do on the merits of the recipient. If you wanted an audit and to verify where that has gone (transparency), then donate to someone who provides it.
I would think that most people donate because they like the content and are happy to throw a few coins their way - that's it! You were never promised a breakdown of costs, you just gave them some money because you liked their content.
Maybe we should witch hunt all the twitch streamers who get donations too? |
Precurseur
Norrskensdrommar Game Of Bears
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Posted - 2014.04.09 10:29:00 -
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Also in after the "lock". I hope I get to be the last post, it makes me feel self important and special |
Wesley Otsdarva
Asuratech Industrial Corp AAA Citizens
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Posted - 2014.04.09 10:39:00 -
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Why does my friends church keep asking for donations even when I'm sure they have enough. Must be a scam? I'll put a sign in my community park saying so. That will certainly make people agree with me.
You have no proof of them embezzling or of their operating costs. They ask for money month after month because they can. And it's always nice to have some back up cash in case donations come in low for a certain month.
Edit: In after the lock. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.04.09 10:53:00 -
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ISD Gallifreyan wrote:This Topic Has been Closed *SLAM* And now stay closed!
ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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ISD Gallifreyan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.04.09 14:37:00 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:ISD Gallifreyan wrote:This Topic Has been Closed *SLAM* And now stay closed! Thank you Captain. ISD Gallifreyan Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCL) Interstellar Services Department |
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