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Fy'nite Hakaari
Darker Tides
2
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Posted - 2014.04.09 18:17:00 -
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ok i understand the need to make hacking sites more difficult then before, but this **** game you got us playing is just that..****
lets sum it up, you spend however long looking for a site, could be few hrs to find a site with something worth taking, add to this ur up against alot of other new players looking for same sites.
so you have 1, it has at least 1 can with something other then **** in it, start hacking, then its pretty much down to pure luck if you hit the right buttons, because to me it seems there are far too many blocks in the way, if you manage to brk the can you then again have to rely on luck to hopefully pick up the 1 item out of all the **** to make the site worthwhile!!
How absolutely ******* boring this procedure is. lets face it, u have had to design and add a new ship to the game just to fill the role cause its so bollocks..well done
i dont have **** skills but this ******* piece of crap hacking method is utter crap, how the **** anyone see's this crap as a viable income is beyond me, well lets face it, no ****** runs data sites as it is |
masternerdguy
State Protectorate Caldari State
1563
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Posted - 2014.04.09 18:20:00 -
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This thread is going places. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Serene Repose
1231
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Posted - 2014.04.09 18:21:00 -
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Now, why don't you tell us how you really feel? I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3277
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Posted - 2014.04.09 18:23:00 -
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Fy'nite Hakaari wrote:
i dont have **** skills
Really? because all you need is the basic skills at 3 to stand a 50/50 of doing null sites *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
621
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Posted - 2014.04.09 18:24:00 -
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hmm Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼ -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-áIf In Doubt....Do....Excessively. Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼a«£¦¬¦P¦¬a«£Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼Gû¼
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Shrewd Tsero
Aventine Legion
42
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Posted - 2014.04.09 18:26:00 -
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I do not disagree that the whole minigame/spew mechanic needs to be revisited, but in terms of getting the loot you want after you have won the mini-game, that's pretty much a no brainer. As long as you scanned it down so you know what's inside, then you know exactly what cans to go for. Getting all, at least most of all, of the parts/materials containers is pretty easy. It is good to have substance to one's existence.-á But in the absence of substance, one can do much yet with style. |
Herzav
Perkone Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.04.09 18:32:00 -
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I don't recall reading anywhere that exploration was ''viable'' as income.
Sure, the ISK is guaranteed but its RNG at its heart. One day you might be WH inhabitant rich and someday you may get a tutorial payout.
That and because everyone and their grandma is doing exploration. so nerfff |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1552
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Posted - 2014.04.09 18:34:00 -
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Fy'nite Hakaari wrote:ok i understand the need to make hacking sites more difficult then before, but this **** game you got us playing is just that..****
lets sum it up, you spend however long looking for a site, could be few hrs to find a site with something worth taking, add to this ur up against alot of other new players looking for same sites.
so you have 1, it has at least 1 can with something other then **** in it, start hacking, then its pretty much down to pure luck if you hit the right buttons, because to me it seems there are far too many blocks in the way, if you manage to brk the can you then again have to rely on luck to hopefully pick up the 1 item out of all the **** to make the site worthwhile!!
How absolutely ******* boring this procedure is. lets face it, u have had to design and add a new ship to the game just to fill the role cause its so bollocks..well done
i dont have **** skills but this ******* piece of crap hacking method is utter crap, how the **** anyone see's this crap as a viable income is beyond me, well lets face it, no ****** runs data sites as it is
Contract me all of your stuff, and biomass after I click "accept". Star Citizen is that way -------> That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20552
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Posted - 2014.04.09 18:34:00 -
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Since you can determine what you'll get and also plan fairly well how to attack the mini-game, I can't rally see that there's much luck involved unless you choose to do it all blind (read: doing it wrong). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Kryptos Sanguar
Ascendant Operations
5
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Posted - 2014.04.09 18:41:00 -
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Could any null dwellers give me an approximate ISK/hour estimate on relic and data sites? I recently found that I quite enjoy the minigame but have only done it in low sec up until now. If it's good money in 0.0 I might go on a little excursion. |
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
553
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Posted - 2014.04.09 18:41:00 -
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Fy'nite Hakaari wrote:ok i understand the need to make hacking sites more difficult then before, but this **** game you got us playing is just that..****
lets sum it up, you spend however long looking for a site, could be few hrs to find a site with something worth taking, add to this ur up against alot of other new players looking for same sites.
so you have 1, it has at least 1 can with something other then **** in it, start hacking, then its pretty much down to pure luck if you hit the right buttons, because to me it seems there are far too many blocks in the way, if you manage to brk the can you then again have to rely on luck to hopefully pick up the 1 item out of all the **** to make the site worthwhile!!
How absolutely ******* boring this procedure is. lets face it, u have had to design and add a new ship to the game just to fill the role cause its so bollocks..well done
i dont have **** skills but this ******* piece of crap hacking method is utter crap, how the **** anyone see's this crap as a viable income is beyond me, well lets face it, no ****** runs data sites as it is This is just ironic. The meta game is boring? Isn't this what people have been pointing to as a "fix" for mining? It's like I have said in the past.. any activity you do repeatedly will eventually become tiresome. There is no reason to change basic mining just as a few other types of mining for some variety. As for exploration,if you don't like it don't do it.
-á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
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Toshiro Ozuwara
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
672
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Posted - 2014.04.09 18:42:00 -
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I made 40M last night doing lowsec sites in 30 mins. It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon,-ádeep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away-áNot today, it's not the way that this kid plays |
Tarpedo
Incursionista
1310
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Posted - 2014.04.09 18:51:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:Star Citizen is that way -------> There are also STO and Elite in the same direction. And the latter has a good chance to have actual exploration - with unknown star systems, planets, asteroid fields etc. - just 3-4 months later. you better be careful with sending people away, it may result in half-empty New Eden couple years later. |
Doireen Kaundur
561
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:00:00 -
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Tarpedo wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Star Citizen is that way -------> There are also STO and Elite in the same direction. And the latter has a good chance to have actual exploration - with unknown star systems, planets, asteroid fields etc. - just 3-4 months later. you better be careful with sending people away, it may result in half-empty New Eden couple years later. As for the loot spill - it was designed to turn players into PvP content so there is no point doing it in hi-sec, go low/null for better income.
EVE had a stongehold becuase the space genre MMO was largely abandoned. Now with some competition (and no I dont mean KOTORish games) Eve may have to pull some rabbits out of hats to keep players interested. Interesting times ahead. A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
masternerdguy
State Protectorate Caldari State
1563
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:02:00 -
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Tarpedo wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Star Citizen is that way -------> There are also STO and Elite in the same direction. And the latter has a good chance to have actual exploration - with unknown star systems, planets, asteroid fields etc. - just 3-4 months later. you better be careful with sending people away, it may result in half-empty New Eden couple years later. As for the loot spill - it was designed to turn players into PvP content so there is no point doing it in hi-sec, go low/null for better income.
Trying to compete with EVE Online is like boxing with a Kangaroo, you are going to lose and be humiliated in the process. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3280
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:03:00 -
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Tarpedo wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Star Citizen is that way -------> There are also STO and Elite in the same direction. And the latter has a good chance to have actual exploration - with unknown star systems, planets, asteroid fields etc. - just 3-4 months later. you better be careful with sending people away, it may result in half-empty New Eden couple years later.
Yeah, Ill be looking in at Elite too, but I dont hold much hope
As David Braben himself said;
"It will fix all the problems with EvE Online"
Which sounds like bad ju-ju to me *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
tiewan
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:07:00 -
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I actually like the mini game.
I do not like the loot spew.
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Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
1160
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:07:00 -
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Kryptos Sanguar wrote:Could any null dwellers give me an approximate ISK/hour estimate on relic and data sites? I recently found that I quite enjoy the minigame but have only done it in low sec up until now. If it's good money in 0.0 I might go on a little excursion.
50-100 mil an hour depending on luck/skills/etc
I made ~1.5 bil a week doing it casually.
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Jeremiah Saken
State Protectorate Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:12:00 -
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Quote:Eve may have to pull some rabbits out of hats to keep players interested. Interesting times ahead.
I'm counting on that. Monopoly is not good, comeptition is.
Quote:"It will fix all the problems with EvE Online"
Now that's a bold statement. Bacon tastes so much better when it's marinated in vegan tears.-á |
Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
1160
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:14:00 -
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Tarpedo wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Star Citizen is that way -------> There are also STO and Elite in the same direction. And the latter has a good chance to have actual exploration - with unknown star systems, planets, asteroid fields etc. - just 3-4 months later. you better be careful with sending people away, it may result in half-empty New Eden couple years later. As for the loot spill - it was designed to turn players into PvP content so there is no point doing it in hi-sec, go low/null for better income.
The game was meant to turn you into prey, the spew was supposed to encourage groups (or dual boxing) to scoop the loot. Then for some unknown reason that has never been fully explained by CCP they made the cans scannable and named the jetcans so that solo you could get most the loot anyway. If it was down to luck like the OP said, it would actually make a whole lot more sense, rather than now which makes no sense at all. |
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
12002
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:14:00 -
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Grrrrrrr Not all professions pay the same.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
masternerdguy
State Protectorate Caldari State
1565
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:15:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Grrrrrrr Not all professions pay the same.
I demand that my forum posting pay at least as much as running Sanctums in an officer fit Nyx. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1784
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:17:00 -
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According to inside sources (devs on twitter), the loot spew should be going away with the Summer release. "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion
***** Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM ***** |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
310
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:41:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:According to inside sources (devs on twitter), the loot spew should be going away with the Summer release.
that's what I was just gonna say, you beat me to it.
Personally I don't mind the mini game, its better then the chance based system we used to have which was a sit and wait.. and wait... and wait game. The loot spew and adding random crap to WH sites was lame. Removing the spew will improve things alot |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
310
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:45:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:Tarpedo wrote:Jarod Garamonde wrote:Star Citizen is that way -------> There are also STO and Elite in the same direction. And the latter has a good chance to have actual exploration - with unknown star systems, planets, asteroid fields etc. - just 3-4 months later. you better be careful with sending people away, it may result in half-empty New Eden couple years later. As for the loot spill - it was designed to turn players into PvP content so there is no point doing it in hi-sec, go low/null for better income. EVE had a stongehold becuase the space genre MMO was largely abandoned. Now with some competition (and no I dont mean KOTORish games) Eve may have to pull some rabbits out of hats to keep players interested. Interesting times ahead.
SC Is to eve what a roller coaster is to a hunting trip.
SC wonlt really hurt eve's player base as its more like a theme park pretending to be a sandbox. (I'll admit I have not looked into SC progress in a few months, but a lot of the stuff they wanted to do should make eve players go huh?)
Elite looks interesting, I have not really looked into that one much either.
TBH, no game will really hurt eve, as only eve can hurt eve. People can and do play more then one game. I really do hope though, that some competition lights a fire under CCP's butt and they keep fixing old broken crap and give us new none broken stuff in the process. |
Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
954
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:52:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:According to inside sources (devs on twitter), the loot spew should be going away with the Summer release. CCP Affinity posted the same on this forum: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4259845#post4259845 Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1127
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Posted - 2014.04.09 20:03:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Grrrrrrr Not all professions pay the same.
I demand that my forum posting pay at least as much as running Sanctums in an officer fit Nyx. Oh yeah, that would be the day. Imagine the Isk/hr we would make if forum posting earned Isk...
On a more serious note, I cleaned the OP's post and deleted some rule breaking posts.
The Rules: 7. Use of profanity is prohibited.
The use of profanity is prohibited on the EVE Online forums. This includes the partial masking of letters using numbers or alternate symbols, and any attempts at bypassing the profanity filter.
19. All posts must be related to EVE Online.
Posts regarding other companies and products or services are prohibited and any content of this nature will be removed. Posts regarding other games are however permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum for the purposes of discussion only.
ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Darkopus
State War Academy Caldari State
86
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Posted - 2014.04.09 20:32:00 -
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show us on the map where the nasty hacking site touched you.......... ???? |
Djana Libra
DAB The Unthinkables
349
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Posted - 2014.04.09 20:34:00 -
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Fy'nite Hakaari wrote:ok i understand the need to make hacking sites more difficult then before, but this *) game you got us playing is just that. *)
lets sum it up, you spend however long looking for a site
Well you're doing it wrong then, with the lame instant scanner when you jump in you get half the info you need, with a few decent skills you can find those sites way too fast.
They killed exploration with the dumbing down of scanning
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Tarpedo
Incursionista
1311
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Posted - 2014.04.09 20:51:00 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Grrrrrrr Not all professions pay the same.
I demand that my forum posting pay at least as much as running Sanctums in an officer fit Nyx. Oh yeah, that would be the day. Imagine the Isk/hr we would make if forum posting earned Isk... By the way - it's not far from reality I see on some social sites (such as Twitter, FB, Reddit): people use cryptocurrencies (dogecoins for example) to tip posters using "tipbots" and simple commands like "+tipbot 100 coins". Could be nice to have such tipbot for official forums - to tip ISK to posters (apparently logging into game takes too much effort). If you think it's a joke - yesterday I've seen $850 tip, few days ago someone tipped $6k in a single tip.
p.s. apologies for off-topic. |
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