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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1089
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:31:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:One short term soluton would have been to allow us to use the NPC ship skins. The code is already in place. Actually no, it isn't. Those are still entirely separate items so it's no easier to make player flyable versions of those than it is to make them of any previously created but not available skin. The steps of: Create new object > Clone old objects stats to it > Associate with different skin; are all the same. |
Herzyr
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:34:00 -
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Who wants to spend money on a expensive skin that dies with the ship?
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1089
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:36:00 -
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Herzyr wrote:Who wants to spend money on a expensive skin that dies with the ship? Someone who wants to die in style. I see it as being no different than expensive mods or rigs. Actually, I find it preferential to the mods since at least currently it can't drop.
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Toshiro Ozuwara
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
673
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:39:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Out of curiosity, what designs would you want? Flame blue? Pin stripes? Bumble bee? Sure. All of them. Stars and stripes. Plaid. Cherry Red.
Is it so hard to come out with decent looking straight blue, red, white and black skins?
It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon,-ádeep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away-áNot today, it's not the way that this kid plays |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1339
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:40:00 -
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I want a hot-pink widow. |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
673
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:41:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:I am ultra familiar with minimum viable products, but is that really a rationalization for why so many of the released designs look like ass? Out of curiosity, what designs would you want? Flame blue? Pin stripes? Bumble bee? You have a limited imagination. Let the artists take over this job, instead of the coders. You didn't answer the question. Because that is how aesthetics work. Not everyone is an artist, but everyone has a sense of what does and does not appeal to them when they see it. It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon,-ádeep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away-áNot today, it's not the way that this kid plays |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1089
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:44:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Because that is how aesthetics work. Not everyone is an artist, but everyone has a sense of what does and does not appeal to them when they see it. But general consensus has no bearing upon what you as an individual want to see, which was the question. |
Doireen Kaundur
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:53:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:I want a hot-pink widow.
Craigslist? A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1339
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:57:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:I want a hot-pink widow. Craigslist? That would be RMT. |
Nicolai Serkanner
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
92
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Posted - 2014.04.09 22:10:00 -
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It is a trial. Vote with your wallet. |
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
1093
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Posted - 2014.04.09 22:11:00 -
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I thought everything the OP is complaining about was explained in the:
Devblog . -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1261
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Posted - 2014.04.09 22:33:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:I am ultra familiar with minimum viable products, but is that really a rationalization for why so many of the released designs look like ass? Out of curiosity, what designs would you want? Flame blue? Pin stripes? Bumble bee? You have a limited imagination. Let the artists take over this job, instead of the coders.
If that happens you'll get upside down crucifiers and new ships that are uglier than the old ships.
Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Doireen Kaundur
571
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Posted - 2014.04.09 22:52:00 -
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There is always the option of product placement.
PEPSI logos on the ships? A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Unholy Knights of Cthulhu Test Alliance Please Ignore
581
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:59:00 -
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You know OP, people might take you seriously if you don't just create a throw away alt and actually reply to anything said in the thread. Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.
Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
685
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Posted - 2014.04.10 01:09:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:There is always the option of product placement.
PEPSI logos on the ships? Finally a new reason for ganking ships.
Remove insurance. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4880
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Posted - 2014.04.10 01:16:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:I respectfully disagree. You dont see if a new 3 course meal will be a hit by just serving the appetizer.
I hate all the new skins, but would still want to paint my ship.
That is a really ****-poor comparison that has basically nothing to do with the subject at hand. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4710
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Posted - 2014.04.10 01:34:00 -
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That a painted ship has to be an entirely new entity in the database is not necessarily a bad thing. It opens up doors for further customization.
Though in that light I would fail to see what an "Aliastra Edition" battleship would have that makes it special. What, is it specially designed to go shopping with or something?
I think a lot of people are just mad because there's no "Punisher Edition" black Brutix with a big Punisher skull on the front.
But give it time. Give it time.
There's simply a rock and a hard place here. Poking at player interest to gauge how much resource to put into this is perfectly legitimate.
Imagine what would happen if they want balls deep with this, come up with all kinds of schemes, the works - the min/maxer/ISK-addict/Killmail-addict OCD crowd would be screaming bloody murder all over the forums because THEIR playstyle and related content is was not the center of the universe (or the expansion).
It would have been better if they could have started out with solid colors. Just let players have a black Cyclone or White Typhoon. But until this issue with the legacy requirement is solved (and that would probably take time and $$) we should take what we can get.
If you want paint schemes, go buy one. If you look at this flatly and think "uhhhhhh this is not going to put ISK in my wallet/add green to my killboard" then just ignore the whole subject and pretend everybody cares about your stats as much as you do (don't worry if you flagellate about it enough we'll entertain you).
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
674
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Posted - 2014.04.10 01:38:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I think a lot of people are just mad because there's no "Punisher Edition" black Brutix with a big Punisher skull on the front.
But give it time. Give it time. This. I want this. I will fly this everyday.
But seriously, the Kador Punisher is pretty nice, but I think all of the rest are ass. If you want to gauge interest, why would you do it with butt ugly designs?
To me, this thing is ******** anyway. Everyone knows we want ship customization, and have for a long time. It could have been a huge driver for Aurum, more than clothing has been for sure. Does CCP really need to gauge if there is interest in this? People badly want to customize their ships, but to do it properly, and not sent leftover cuts from CCP's art department floor. It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon,-ádeep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away-áNot today, it's not the way that this kid plays |
Doireen Kaundur
572
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Posted - 2014.04.10 02:00:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote:I respectfully disagree. You dont see if a new 3 course meal will be a hit by just serving the appetizer.
I hate all the new skins, but would still want to paint my ship. That is a really ****-poor comparison that has basically nothing to do with the subject at hand.
the question is: is this a "test" of the technology or a "test" of how players take to the skins?
A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
masternerdguy
State Protectorate Caldari State
1575
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Posted - 2014.04.10 02:01:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote:I respectfully disagree. You dont see if a new 3 course meal will be a hit by just serving the appetizer.
I hate all the new skins, but would still want to paint my ship. That is a really ****-poor comparison that has basically nothing to do with the subject at hand. the question is: is this a "test" of the technology or a "test" of how players take to the skins?
Test of the popularity of the skins, since developing the technology to do it well is going to be resource intensive. This was all outlined in the blog.
So if you want more options, you're going to have to vote with your wallet. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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Doireen Kaundur
572
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Posted - 2014.04.10 02:27:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote:I respectfully disagree. You dont see if a new 3 course meal will be a hit by just serving the appetizer.
I hate all the new skins, but would still want to paint my ship. That is a really ****-poor comparison that has basically nothing to do with the subject at hand. the question is: is this a "test" of the technology or a "test" of how players take to the skins? Test of the popularity of the skins, since developing the technology to do it well is going to be resource intensive. This was all outlined in the blog. So if you want more options, you're going to have to vote with your wallet.
I'll pass.
Offer me something worth buying first before making promises that there are better things to come. Seems CCP is still believeing that garbage about "paying attention to what players do more than what players say." A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
Laiannah Sahireen
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
66
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Posted - 2014.04.10 02:42:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:I'll pass. Offer me something worth buying first before making promises that there are better things to come. Seems CCP is still believing that garbage about "paying more attention to what players do rather than what players say."
There are a lot of players who really like the new skins, myself and a large chunk of my alliance included. The players have decided the demand and the market has decided the appropriate price.
CCP also stated their exact intentions in the dev blog about this pilot program by clearly explaining that they're going to monitor demand and price for the skins that people buy and use this to inform future decisions.
Lots of people like this program and CCP are being crystal clear about how their future plans, regardless of your personal taste, aloof attitude or the fact you think you're clever for referring to emails from the Incarna debacle. |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
178
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Posted - 2014.04.10 02:43:00 -
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Why complain about useless sht? Ignore it.
Skins, really?
You actually buy that crap? |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1092
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Posted - 2014.04.10 02:46:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote:Why complain about useless sht? Ignore it.
Skins, really?
You actually buy that crap? Feels like there is some irony in talking about the uselessness of skins when where all playing with pixel space ships. |
Doireen Kaundur
572
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Posted - 2014.04.10 02:48:00 -
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Laiannah Sahireen wrote: Lots of people like this program and CCP are being crystal clear about how their future plans, regardless of your personal taste, aloof attitude or the fact you think you're clever for referring to emails from the Incarna debacle.
Those Who Forget the Past Are Doomed to Repeat It A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
Hal Morsh
The Witch's Hammer Violent Declaration
105
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Posted - 2014.04.10 02:52:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:I want a hot-pink widow.
Here ya go. http://evenews24.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/pinkwidow_azajigga_issue.jpg
Where did I get it? Apparently someone wants to play as a Japanese schoolgirl in star citizen.
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/86866/character-customization-can-i-play-as-a-highschool-girl
I am deeply disturbed by this person, but I do like the widow :D I enjoy a good session of mining. |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
180
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Posted - 2014.04.10 02:57:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Arsine Mayhem wrote:Why complain about useless sht? Ignore it.
Skins, really?
You actually buy that crap? Feels like there is some irony in talking about the uselessness of skins when where all playing with pixel space ships.
Awww, did you buy that patch on your eye? lololzzz |
Laiannah Sahireen
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
67
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Posted - 2014.04.10 02:59:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:Laiannah Sahireen wrote: Lots of people like this program and CCP are being crystal clear about how their future plans, regardless of your personal taste, aloof attitude or the fact you think you're clever for referring to emails from the Incarna debacle.
Those Who Forget the Past Are Doomed to Repeat It
That was a spectacularly empty quote. CCP created a PR disaster with Incarna, players revolted, this time they're being completely upfront about it and people are being receptive. It's a completely different scenario.
Those Who Post Quotes With A Capital Letter For Each Word Are Not As Smart As They Think They Are. |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1093
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Posted - 2014.04.10 03:01:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Arsine Mayhem wrote:Why complain about useless sht? Ignore it.
Skins, really?
You actually buy that crap? Feels like there is some irony in talking about the uselessness of skins when where all playing with pixel space ships. Awww, did you buy that patch on your eye? lololzzz Came with the collectors edition, I wanted the book. Extras were cool though.
Still, you miss the point in that you play with pixel space ships. At that point there is nothing you could possibly point at that could make me think your stance less ironic.
What do you have against Moretsu Space Pirates? |
Doireen Kaundur
572
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Posted - 2014.04.10 03:02:00 -
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Laiannah Sahireen wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote:Laiannah Sahireen wrote: Lots of people like this program and CCP are being crystal clear about how their future plans, regardless of your personal taste, aloof attitude or the fact you think you're clever for referring to emails from the Incarna debacle.
Those Who Forget the Past Are Doomed to Repeat It That was a spectacularly empty quote. CCP created a PR disaster with Incarna, players revolted, this time they're being completely upfront about it and people are being receptive. It's a completely different scenario. Those Who Post Quotes With A Capital Letter For Each Word Are Not As Smart As They Think They Are.
This has nothing to do with my "smarts." It has to do with skins that I dont feel are worth buying.
It's my opinion and my money. So why are you using personal attacks for stating my opinion? A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
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