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Aadris
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.04.09 20:20:00 -
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I've just come back to Eve again after a few months off and got a bit nostalgic about what the game used to feel like when it was all new. So as well as reactivating my main I signed up for a trial account and have been having loads of fun flying a crappy T1 fit frig/dessy around.
Has anyone else done this? I mean starting a totally fresh character after years of playing (I played just after the beta but didn't start playing properly until 2006).
I have always done PvP/Piracy for fun and trading for income and not much else, was gonna perhaps try Faction Warfare and see what that is like. I'm actually having a lot more fun than flying bigger / more expensive stuff and worrying about killboard stats and having to FC or endure internet-drama.
Just wondering if i'm the only one or has anyone else tried to rediscover a love for the game by making a new character? |
masternerdguy
State Protectorate Caldari State
1566
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Posted - 2014.04.09 20:21:00 -
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I did that once and got into CVA with it. Got bored after a bit and went back to my older main. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Doireen Kaundur
564
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:22:00 -
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I keep one slot open just so I can play with the character creator. It should be its own mini-game. A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
Winchester Steele
910
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:28:00 -
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Aadris wrote:I've just come back to Eve again after a few months off and got a bit nostalgic about what the game used to feel like when it was all new. So as well as reactivating my main I signed up for a trial account and have been having loads of fun flying a crappy T1 fit frig/dessy around.
Has anyone else done this? I mean starting a totally fresh character after years of playing (I played just after the beta but didn't start playing properly until 2006).
I have always done PvP/Piracy for fun and trading for income and not much else, was gonna perhaps try Faction Warfare and see what that is like. I'm actually having a lot more fun than flying bigger / more expensive stuff and worrying about killboard stats and having to FC or endure internet-drama.
Just wondering if i'm the only one or has anyone else tried to rediscover a love for the game by making a new character?
If vets didn't do this, Eve would have about 10,000 active accounts. I personally have started up a frightening amount of starter accounts for. . . reasons.
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
268
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:33:00 -
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Yea, I'm certain vets do it to check out how things are.
Upon realization of just how limited they are in the scope of possible game play experiences compared to their much high skill point mains, they always revert the "new" character to a simple alt and play primarily on their older accounts.
Because being a new player sucks, and eve veterans forget it, try it out, then remember and make threads on the forums about how they wish the game had less people and how new players shouldn't be allowed to play eve, or that they should play other games all together.
#veteranentitlement Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |
Spurty
V0LTA Triumvirate.
1320
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:40:00 -
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Game is a lot more fun when your entire ship fit is less than your mains medical clone cost. *signature is not allowed on the EVE Online forums* |
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
303
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:46:00 -
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Though I'm not that old. I have started about 3-4 new characters.
While I sense bitterness in the post above, I was able to turn my new pilot into a scanning alt then a salvager. Which gave him use in the first week. In the second/third week, I grabbed gas mining.
third/4th/5th week, I hit up some bare bones drake skills so that I could fly some combat sites, solo lvl3 missions.In about 2-3 months I had a decent logistics pilot.
Same character a year and 1/2 later? Perfect booster alt, orca pilot. Great slepnier/EoS combat pilot. Decent recon / Bomber pilot.Currently mapped int/mem to work on core skills. May eventually fly a carrier or a dread.
Now to be completely fair. A noctis, gas mining skill book, a drake, etc. Are all more money barriers than they are skill barriers for a new player.
While it sucks to train for something your new characters can immediately be useful, contribute, or make you money.
I also once made a faction warfare farming alt. After flying a warp stabbed ship around lowsec and hating myself for making such easy money, I biomassed the character and speak of him only in hushed whispers. I could literally alt+tab and make 20 mil a night with that guy floating in the background.
The new player experience is painful. If your goal is to get into a capital ship immediately, you have a long and painful road ahead of you. If you'd like to be able to sit in a battleship, do frig/cruiser pvp, logi, mine, do PI - or any of 100 other things - your wait time is not very long. |
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
303
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:50:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Yea, I'm certain vets do it to check out how things are.
Upon realization of just how limited they are in the scope of possible game play experiences compared to their much high skill point mains, they always revert the "new" character to a simple alt and play primarily on their older accounts.
Because being a new player sucks, and eve veterans forget it, try it out, then remember and make threads on the forums about how they wish the game had less people and how new players shouldn't be allowed to play eve, or that they should play other games all together.
#veteranentitlement
Brutal. I'm going to pioneer you a hashtag: #bitternewbie. |
Spurty
V0LTA Triumvirate.
1322
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:52:00 -
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Noxisia Arkana wrote:While I sense bitterness in the post above
dats not my post right? Cause, I forgot how tough the game was when you can't fit 'anything you want'.
Quite fun having to scrounge for t1 parts to make a rifter. Currently cruising about in a laser rifter due to belt rats not being angels lol
*signature is not allowed on the EVE Online forums* |
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
303
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:54:00 -
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Spurty wrote:Noxisia Arkana wrote:While I sense bitterness in the post above dats not my post right? Cause, I forgot how tough the game was when you can't fit 'anything you want'. Quite fun having to scrounge for t1 parts to make a rifter. Currently cruising about in a laser rifter due to belt rats not being angels lol
No, not your post, I meant Divines - we must have posted at about the same time. |
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ashley Eoner
305
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:56:00 -
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Aadris wrote:I've just come back to Eve again after a few months off and got a bit nostalgic about what the game used to feel like when it was all new. So as well as reactivating my main I signed up for a trial account and have been having loads of fun flying a crappy T1 fit frig/dessy around.
Has anyone else done this? I mean starting a totally fresh character after years of playing (I played just after the beta but didn't start playing properly until 2006).
I have always done PvP/Piracy for fun and trading for income and not much else, was gonna perhaps try Faction Warfare and see what that is like. I'm actually having a lot more fun than flying bigger / more expensive stuff and worrying about killboard stats and having to FC or endure internet-drama.
Just wondering if i'm the only one or has anyone else tried to rediscover a love for the game by making a new character? I actually recently just started a new fresh account to see if what I remembered was correct about being a newbie skilled character. |
Winchester Steele
910
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Posted - 2014.04.09 21:59:00 -
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Noxisia Arkana wrote:Spurty wrote:Noxisia Arkana wrote:While I sense bitterness in the post above dats not my post right? Cause, I forgot how tough the game was when you can't fit 'anything you want'. Quite fun having to scrounge for t1 parts to make a rifter. Currently cruising about in a laser rifter due to belt rats not being angels lol No, not your post, I meant Divines - we must have posted at about the same time.
Divine isn't a happy person. He hates Eve and it's community, yet continues to play while making a constant whining noise on the forum.
In other words, a fairly average Eve player. ... |
Winchester Steele
910
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Posted - 2014.04.09 22:02:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Yea, I'm certain vets do it to check out how things are.
Upon realization of just how limited they are in the scope of possible game play experiences compared to their much high skill point mains, they always revert the "new" character to a simple alt and play primarily on their older accounts.
Because being a new player sucks, and eve veterans forget it, try it out, then remember and make threads on the forums about how they wish the game had less people and how new players shouldn't be allowed to play eve, or that they should play other games all together.
#veteranentitlement
Funny. I have destroyed 30 man corporations with pilots less than 12 hours old. Just last week I killed the T2 ferox of a 2007 player with a 2 day old noob pilot in a meta fit Moa.
But don't let facts get in the way of your ill-informed nonsensical ramblings. ... |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4565
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Posted - 2014.04.09 22:07:00 -
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Of course I do, it's called awoxing. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Panhandle Industries
421
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Posted - 2014.04.09 22:34:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Yea, I'm certain vets do it to check out how things are.
Upon realization of just how limited they are in the scope of possible game play experiences compared to their much high skill point mains, they always revert the "new" character to a simple alt and play primarily on their older accounts.
Because being a new player sucks, and eve veterans forget it, try it out, then remember and make threads on the forums about how they wish the game had less people and how new players shouldn't be allowed to play eve, or that they should play other games all together.
#veteranentitlement Actually since creating this character I've played more than I ever did on my 30m sp "main". I'm in a major alliance and I never show up for ops because I'm durtling around in wormhole space or joining in on orca ganks on this guy. SP does not equal fun in this game.
Wild guess what my level 4 mission boat, and ship for sleeper sites is when flying with my corp? An incursus. A drake pilot throws five remote repair drones on me, and we're fine. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
No Means No
University of Caille Gallente Federation
92
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Posted - 2014.04.09 22:50:00 -
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I remember when being in space felt like REALLY being in space. I remember when I got close to a myrmidon the first time and thought how big of a ship that is. I remember getting donated 1mil isks for the first time and felt like the richest mofo in the game.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
559
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:30:00 -
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I take all of my alts through the entire career path at one school at least.
I also spend way more time in my 1/2 month trained alts scooting around losec than I do in my main. By the end of 6 weeks they can fly inties and do basic covops in an astero so they are fine for the job.
I have learned to ignore whining new players as ... guess what ... they never actually quit and 2 years later turn into whining older players. The most amusing thing of the lot is 2 years later they are usually whining about how it was "better" in the old days when they were new and how the game is now nerfed:D Whiners will whine, fact of life.
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Muestereate
Minions LLC
285
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:34:00 -
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I did it for fun and it was not :) |
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CCP Falcon
6424
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:49:00 -
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When I first came to CCP and had to forfeit all my existing characters, I started fresh.
It's pretty fun!
CCP Falcon -á || -á EVE Community Manager -á || -á EVE Illuminati
@CCP_Falcon -á || -á-á@EVE_LiveEvents |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4709
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:00:00 -
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I did recently and ran the SOE epic arc on day 2.
Damn that Dagan can tank.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar E.A.R.T.H. Federation
393
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:07:00 -
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I did it seven times... and sold my former main each time.
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GreenSeed
984
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:13:00 -
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i did it a long time ago, and this character was born. but its boring as crap, as far as characters go. about a year later i did it again and ended up with a logistics character mainly doing frigate/cruiser logistics in FW, its the character i played the most over the last year or so. mainly due to the frigate/cruiser rebalance, the new t1 logistics are fun to fly, too bad the mechanics of frigate pvp in FW always end up with clones dead... otherwise i would actually invest training time on it. as it is, its stuck in t1 hulls. considering t2 hulls are kinda crap for their price i guess its not such a bad thing. |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
407
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Posted - 2014.04.10 01:01:00 -
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It never starts out as a new character. Just another cyno alt to replace the last one whos flying capitals now and the cycle just keeps going...
gives me plenty of oppurtunity to try different playstyles while still having my main to come back to whenever I want.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
5154
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Posted - 2014.04.10 01:20:00 -
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Didn't we already do this thread over in New Citizens subforum?
Ah hell... I'll do it again.
ShahFluffers wrote:I've done it once. It was thrilling! All the knowledge of an "old timer" with the "worthlessness" of a newbie. I literally threw myself into the most dangerous activities possible despite lacking skills just to see if I could do it.
Plus it's nice not having the baggage of a veteran character with history and hilarious to listen to newbies chatter away over stuff they don't understand (especially when they are facing down your main character).
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?" |
Han Chang
Frontiers United
0
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Posted - 2014.04.10 01:41:00 -
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After entrenching myself in a rigid business industry cycle, I ventured onto fresher lands by starting a new account. The goal was to start totally fresh without any help from my mains. So far so good. Joined up with a riveting newbie corporation and am currently experiencing many and multiple levels of enjoyment. The new player experience is extremely easy after being a five year player. I can see the use for those who are fresh, but otherwise it's just a click 'next' spam fest.
Coordinating missions to give new players balanced skills and modules for their ships would be a good idea. I found myself getting multiples of the same skill or module and selling it. Would be neat if they planned on people doing all the tutorials and gave greater benefits for completing that. |
KnowUsByTheDead
Krypteia Operations CODE.
1246
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Posted - 2014.04.10 01:47:00 -
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Absolutely.
More often than you think.
Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |
Another Posting Alt
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2014.04.10 02:02:00 -
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I sold a 5 year old character for about 5 years GTC worth of ISK. Made a new guy who inherited the assets, bookmarks, cash etc and spent some of the ISK for years of game time. Can buy whatever I can fly (to the limit of my learned skills) at will and afford to lose it 100s of times over. Can do whatever I want (to the limit of my learned skills) without worrying about where my next ship or PLEX is coming from. Great fun! |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Panhandle Industries Order of the Exalted
425
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Posted - 2014.04.10 07:44:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:When I first came to CCP and had to forfeit all my existing characters, I started fresh. It's pretty fun! And how much SP does that toon have? New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Talia Prime
Imperial Militia
17
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Posted - 2014.04.10 08:37:00 -
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Yep, I have made a couple of new characters, took them both through the tutorials, had a blast. One is now my FW alt, flying meta fit frigs, still having a blast although the other one became a cyno alt.
My 'main' is almost a perfectly skilled Amarr sub cap pilot, just Marauder V and Black Ops to finish off plus flies a perfectly skilled Nightmare. I have only logged into her to update skills for the last 4-5 months, I have more fun flying my FW alt, who is still lacking core skills, or my exploration character, sat at roughly 30m SP, 10-15m of which was wasted on resource processing, mining and industrial skills that I never use.
Also, thought I should mention, my FW alt is no longer being skilled. |
i-AA
Cream Pie Carpet Munchers
4
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Posted - 2014.04.10 09:02:00 -
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I probably started like 50 trial accounts throughout the years |
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