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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2014.04.17 02:45:00 -
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no it shouldnt. Being in a player corp has advantages, and those advantages are balanced by being open to war decs. NPC corps dnt have those advantages, so as long as they are in an NPC corp they are balanced by not suffering war decs. but they are still vulnerable to all other forms of PvP. If ur worried about them coming back to corp after the dec, then dec them again! ur not paying for player kills, ur paying to keep that corp inactive.
yes, paying 50mil for a war dec in the hopes of getting kills is a waste of isk. Just like buying a rifle to go fishing is a waste of money. ur the guy trying to put the square in the triangle hole. u are doing it wrong. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
Darin Vanar
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.04.17 02:49:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Darin Vanar wrote:Nam Dnilb wrote:NPC corps should war-dec each other once a year, because that would be hilarious. Haha, I like this idea. This made me laugh. BRB, creating another 1 man corp for the duration of the NPC war.
I've already named mine. Federal Navy Academy Bunker. |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
567
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Posted - 2014.04.17 04:16:00 -
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Quote:allowed to "hide" in NPC corps this again? we've already "nerfed" NPC corps because of this complaint .. I knew it was too good to be true that sour grape players might be satisfied with the nerfs already in place.
With many players who have multiple accounts and many character slots that don't have any SP built up on them (most of the play will be allotted to the mains on the accounts) the NPC corps just make sense. I would hate to be force to try to find permanent non-NPC homes for these characters that most of the time will get ejected for inactivity.
Then to, there is the social aspect of an NPC corp you are overlooking... People play MMOs to meet and play with new people online.. There is no better way then to chat in an NPC corp with an alt.. also, there are the recruiter alts that join these corps to scout for new members. You would be limiting some very good aspects of the game by killing NPC corps as an option for characters who are technically older than noobs.... For the life of me I can't understand why someone would want this change. -á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
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nia starstryder
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.04.17 16:57:00 -
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Ben ReVerT wrote:nia starstryder wrote:[quote=Ben ReVerT][quote=Domanique Altares] so when did you buy out ccp? if you don't own the game, you don't have the right to tell others how to play their game. Im not telling people how to play THE game. I just dont think its fair that you have to pay 50m to War dec a corp, then they all just leave the corp and rejoin after the war dec is over. This is just wasting ISK for the players who want to war dec other corps. If someone leaves a corp to go to an NPC corp, like a corp leaving and Alliance, the war dec should follow them.
so your not concerned with the corp, but with getting easy kills with no risk of concord interference or damage to your standing?
not every player in the game wants constant combat AND YOU ARE telling people they have to do precisely that.
you don't want people to avoid combat by leaving the corp. you want them to be under constant attack no matter where they go. THIS IS telling people that they MUST be pvp players CONSTANTLY.
even if they do leave the corp, you can still attack them. there IS NO SAFE spot in the game outside the station. YET this is not good enough because if you attack them while they are not wardeced YOU take damage, from concord and to your standings.
THAT is the only difference that happens when players leave the war deced corp and joined a non wardeced npc corp.
IF everyone leaves the corp, you won, but that's not what you want, you want the safe easy kills.
that's why you are the coward, not the people that leave the corp. Leaving the corp is a strategy, one that ccp has endorsed. war decing individuals is NOT endorsed by ccp. this is why this idea is a failure from the getgo.
even if they did do this. people that left the war deced corp would simply make a one man corp, bring in a trial account, then leave it if you war decced it leaving you facing one account that never logs on.
How many times do you think you could afford to run down, say even as little as 10 accounts that make new omc to make you pay the war dec fees again.
ccp has stated they will not allow you to wardec a player, and all of your suggestions are plainly meant to do that. |
Gabriel Z
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
17
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Posted - 2014.04.17 18:02:00 -
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nia starstryder wrote:Gabriel Z wrote: this wouldn't be a problem for you if you weren't hiding out in hisec. i think all players over a certain age should be forced out of hisec. same dumb logic. this assumes that everyone plays the game just to pvp, just as the author does. I assume you meant that that way, as the logical extension of what he is saying. a lot of people play the game for socializing factor. other play the game because the game allows them to make money that they have no hope of doing in real life. People want to feel successful, even if its only make believe. If they live paycheck to paycheck just to survive, they often turn to games like eve to be able to fulfil that need. you need a sarcasm detector and a clue |
Ceawlin Cobon-Han
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.17 20:49:00 -
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Jeez! 6 pages of basically waffle.
In the spirit of many of the posters: I don't want people deccing me so I remain in this NPC corp. I'm quite happy logging in sporadically and player a couple of hours here and there. It's how I want to do it. I'm not paying subs just so others can tell me how I MUST play this game. |
nia starstryder
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.04.18 15:21:00 -
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Gabriel Z wrote:nia starstryder wrote:Gabriel Z wrote: this wouldn't be a problem for you if you weren't hiding out in hisec. i think all players over a certain age should be forced out of hisec. same dumb logic. this assumes that everyone plays the game just to pvp, just as the author does. I assume you meant that that way, as the logical extension of what he is saying. a lot of people play the game for socializing factor. other play the game because the game allows them to make money that they have no hope of doing in real life. People want to feel successful, even if its only make believe. If they live paycheck to paycheck just to survive, they often turn to games like eve to be able to fulfil that need. you need a sarcasm detector and a clue
that's why I said I was assuming you meant it that way. I was building on what you said. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2227
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Posted - 2014.04.18 15:26:00 -
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Ben ReVerT wrote:nia starstryder wrote:[quote=Ben ReVerT][quote=Domanique Altares] so when did you buy out ccp? if you don't own the game, you don't have the right to tell others how to play their game. Im not telling people how to play THE game. I just dont think its fair that you have to pay 50m to War dec a corp, then they all just leave the corp and rejoin after the war dec is over. This is just wasting ISK for the players who want to war dec other corps. If someone leaves a corp to go to an NPC corp, like a corp leaving and Alliance, the war dec should follow them.
Why don't you just contact whoever has upset you and make peace with them?
Suggesting that folk should not be able to stay in an NPC is like suggesting that folk should not be allowed to be in the goons for example, as it cost a fortune to wardec them. This is not a signature. |
nia starstryder
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2014.04.18 15:29:00 -
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Here's another point. My corp wants to do faction warfare in amarr. I am a merchant in rens. I cant gather skill books (I'm a skill book tycoon) if I am constantly being attacked by the minmatar faction. The only way we can all do what we want is for me to leave the corp while they are fighting, then rejoin them.
Under your plan, no matter what I do, I cant play. If they do faction war for a month, I've wasted my entire sub. |
Ceawlin Cobon-Han
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.18 17:11:00 -
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nia starstryder wrote:Here's another point. My corp wants to do faction warfare in amarr. I am a merchant in rens. I cant gather skill books (I'm a skill book tycoon) if I am constantly being attacked by the minmatar faction. The only way we can all do what we want is for me to leave the corp while they are fighting, then rejoin them.
Under your plan, no matter what I do, I cant play. If they do faction war for a month, I've wasted my entire sub.
You can stay in the corp. You'll just be attacked by the Matar navy. That's how the game works. Your choice. |
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nia starstryder
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:32:00 -
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Ceawlin Cobon-Han wrote:nia starstryder wrote:Here's another point. My corp wants to do faction warfare in amarr. I am a merchant in rens. I cant gather skill books (I'm a skill book tycoon) if I am constantly being attacked by the minmatar faction. The only way we can all do what we want is for me to leave the corp while they are fighting, then rejoin them.
Under your plan, no matter what I do, I cant play. If they do faction war for a month, I've wasted my entire sub. You can stay in the corp. You'll just be attacked by the Matar navy. That's how the game works. Your choice.
actually I wasn't attacked by the matar navy. I was attacked by a player who was in the minmatar faction. matar navy doesn't pod you. Im fast enough to outrun the matar navy but not fast enough reactions to out run kids camped out on stations looking for easy kills. |
Ceawlin Cobon-Han
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2014.04.19 19:20:00 -
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nia starstryder wrote: actually I wasn't attacked by the matar navy. I was attacked by a player who was in the minmatar faction. matar navy doesn't pod you. Im fast enough to outrun the matar navy but not fast enough reactions to out run kids camped out on stations looking for easy kills.
ah-hah! Needs saying: you're Matari and you're in a corp that wants to fight against your own people. Ever thought of changing corp? |
nia starstryder
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2014.04.19 20:32:00 -
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they were looking to make a few bucks off the lps. they planned on doing it when it was a tier 4, but by the time they could get to the fighting it was back to a tier 1. They really want to fight in null but they needed to make a little money first. So I left the corp after verifying that I would be attacked frequently. It only cost me a rookie ship and some fairly cheap implants. In a week or two they will tire if fw and go after something else.
They are my friends, so I take it in stride. after all, I am a starstryder. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2232
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:10:00 -
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Ben ReVerT wrote:nia starstryder wrote:[quote=Ben ReVerT][quote=Domanique Altares] so when did you buy out ccp? if you don't own the game, you don't have the right to tell others how to play their game. Im not telling people how to play THE game. I just dont think its fair that you have to pay 50m to War dec a corp, then they all just leave the corp and rejoin after the war dec is over. This is just wasting ISK for the players who want to war dec other corps. If someone leaves a corp to go to an NPC corp, like a corp leaving and Alliance, the war dec should follow them.
According to http://evewho.com/corp/Vengance+Inc. there are 137 members in your corp.
If you are paying 50m for a wardec, you need to wardec bigger targets.
If I have posted incorrect information from Evewho.com, forgive me in advance. This is not a signature. |
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