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Jeremy Kamira
D.A.R.K A.N.G.E.L.Z
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Posted - 2014.04.11 18:42:00 -
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I have been playing eve for a few months, and other than some people, the community is pretty mature. I have interacted with quite an amount of people from all different parts and sides of the community and they usually act mature, and any hostility/hate is for a valid reason.
But then i came on the forums, it seems like people troll, be hostile towards players for absolutely no reason, lots of immaturity, lots of hate. On some help threads ive posted and read i see people who just comment on how stupid that person must be not to know that, and other similar things akin to that. Almost the complete opposite of the people in-game. Could someone mind explaining this to me?
(No offense intended to the nice people here, there are lots of you here too) |
Doireen Kaundur
616
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Posted - 2014.04.11 18:43:00 -
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Forum is a different mini-game. A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
Xam Nesse
Bison Industrial Inc Thundering Herd
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Posted - 2014.04.11 18:43:00 -
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I think it's mostly just the GD forum section. Many of the others are quite civil |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
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Posted - 2014.04.11 18:46:00 -
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General Discussion is like a traffic jam in New York. An open forum for the free exchange of ideas. "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion
***** Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM ***** |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
12047
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Posted - 2014.04.11 18:47:00 -
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Confirming that the forums is an accurate cross-section of the Eve playerbase.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Karen Avioras
Unsung Heroes The Volition Cult
366
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Posted - 2014.04.11 18:47:00 -
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It's like orange juice, in game it's all watered out but in forums we're concentrated immaturity etc. |
Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
1166
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Posted - 2014.04.11 18:52:00 -
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Apparently the pen is mightier than the sword. |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2014.04.11 18:54:00 -
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its because you have people making stupid topics. Then they go 'oh I want to talk about this stupid topic.... I see a thread about stupid topic, but mine is better so.." *makes new thread about stupid topic* Then you get ANOTHER person goes "gee, two threads about stupid topic, do I post in one of the other stupid threads? naw i'll make a totally NEW thread!" *yet another thread about the same damn stupid topic*
This is seriously worse then f-ing traffic. Every time I look at the forums I want to bash my damn head into the wall to stop the pain. |
Muestereate
Minions LLC
290
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Posted - 2014.04.11 18:54:00 -
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I am 12 in my mommies avatar, what do you expect from me. |
KnowUsByTheDead
Krypteia Operations CODE.
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Posted - 2014.04.11 18:54:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:General Discussion is like a traffic jam in New York. An open forum for the free exchange of ideas.
I fail to see the correlation, but then again, I have only been to NYC once.
I think the reason you see what you do in the forums, is because all of the smug, bitter, etc. from the game, all joins into this massive wedge in the universe called EvE Online: General Discussion.
I log onto the forums, I grab my spiked bat.
I log into EvE, I have some coffee, station spin, chat up my bros and the locals, then........maybe do something in game.
If I can muster :effort:.
That's just my observations at least.
Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |
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Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
7488
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Posted - 2014.04.11 18:55:00 -
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I like Snow. Zimmy Zeta - I f*cking love martinis. the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. Your old Friends can use me for 7 days, free!!! |
Benny Ohu
Beneath the Ashes Margin of Silence
2863
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Posted - 2014.04.11 19:00:00 -
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there aren't any npc forum alts ingame |
Doireen Kaundur
616
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Posted - 2014.04.11 19:04:00 -
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DaReaper wrote: This is seriously worse then f-ing traffic. Every time I look at the forums I want to bash my damn head into the wall to stop the pain.
Can I watch?
A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.11 19:07:00 -
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The 1% rule of internet culture applies.
90% of the people are mere generic players
9% modify existing content.
1% creates content.
We are the 1%. |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1238
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Posted - 2014.04.11 19:08:00 -
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Ingame there's a different pattern of repetition, a different pace to tedium. Tedium is what gets people angry. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2014.04.11 19:17:00 -
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We can shoot the idiots in game, unfortunately nobody has invented something that lets us shoot them on the forums.
Although certain players have a reputation for rewarding shitposting with ingame consequences
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Jallukola
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2014.04.11 19:29:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:The 1% rule of internet culture applies.
90% of the people are mere generic players
9% modify existing content.
1% creates content.
We are the 1%. Best joke I heard all week.
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Muestereate
Minions LLC
291
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Posted - 2014.04.11 19:45:00 -
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We have to uphold EVES reputation publicly for CCP. If we don't we'll be overrun by people insisting we be riding ponies or casting spells. |
Iudicium Vastus
Incognito Holdings and Savings
256
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Posted - 2014.04.11 19:50:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:there aren't any npc forum alts ingame
No, instead we get spam alts and bots in-game. Nerf stabs/cloaks in FW? No, just.. -Fit more points -Fit faction points -Bring a friend or two with points (an alt is fine too) |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
1163
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Posted - 2014.04.11 19:57:00 -
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Jeremy Kamira wrote:I have been playing eve for a few months, and other than some people, the community is pretty mature. I have interacted with quite an amount of people from all different parts and sides of the community and they usually act mature, and any hostility/hate is for a valid reason.
But then i came on the forums, it seems like people troll, be hostile towards players for absolutely no reason, lots of immaturity, lots of hate. On some help threads ive posted and read i see people who just comment on how stupid that person must be not to know that, and other similar things akin to that. Almost the complete opposite of the people in-game. Could someone mind explaining this to me?
(No offense intended to the nice people here, there are lots of you here too)
Did you ever leave the noob station? You have not "interacted" with most of the community if you really believe that.
CCP: "We know what's best for the game, so you can't have any options....." |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
11642
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Posted - 2014.04.11 20:15:00 -
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Half of the trolls here never got past the NPE complexity of the game so last resort to be a "member" of the community they troll their ways here.
/c
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CETA Elitist
The Prometheus Society
25
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Posted - 2014.04.11 20:16:00 -
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Jeremy Kamira wrote:I have been playing eve for a few months, and other than some people, the community is pretty mature. I have interacted with quite an amount of people from all different parts and sides of the community and they usually act mature, and any hostility/hate is for a valid reason.
But then i came on the forums, it seems like people troll, be hostile towards players for absolutely no reason, lots of immaturity, lots of hate. On some help threads ive posted and read i see people who just comment on how stupid that person must be not to know that, and other similar things akin to that. Almost the complete opposite of the people in-game. Could someone mind explaining this to me?
(No offense intended to the nice people here, there are lots of you here too) My experience is almost the complete opposite. lucky you.
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1675
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Posted - 2014.04.11 20:18:00 -
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RAWR, I WILL EAT YOUR TOAST!
Chribba wrote:Half of the trolls here never got past the NPE complexity of the game so last resort to be a "member" of the community they troll their ways here.
/c
Chribs, that hurts mang. ;-; BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |
shortattenionsp
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2014.04.11 20:19:00 -
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The forums are not an accurate representation of the playerbase - CCP has said in the past only a small percentage of players even look at the forums. You have to understand that a certain pathology dominates which keeps the majority of normal reasonable people out.
I don't think the Eve forums are that different from most other game forums or the comments section on most websites. Look at the bottom of any news article even from venerable news organisations and the comments are mostly dominated by idiots, extremists and conspiracy theorists, trolls etc.
In most spheres of life there is some sort of hierarchy or system governing how much credibility people are given. For example you know you should probably give at least some credibility to what your university lecturer says because he's been vetted by staff at the university and is likely an intelligent individual with experience and knowledge in their field. You know that colleagues at work who have 20 years experience in the same industry are more likely able to offer you better insight regarding your work than the raving lunatic stumbling around the streets outside the office. Real life provides clues as to who you are dealing with and whether you should listen to or if it's worth engaging with them.
Total anonymity online removes that metric of credibility and allows people to say things and behave in ways they wouldn't in public. It creates a race to the bottom where extreme opinions and behavior dominate and this drives out the normal people that want to talk like adults. Also the dunning-kruger effects means people of low ability/understanding are much more likely to express themselves than those whose opinions are tempered with knowledge/experience.
Basically the level of conversation and maturity displayed by people goes down the toilet leaving just the few people that are willing to swim in **** behind. The stench puts off anyone else from joining in.
If you hang around for a bit, you'll see most of the shitposting come from the same few guys, mostly pushing one agenda or another or following some pattern of posting crap/trolling. Just like most of the people you meet in real life probably seem decent and reasonable, most eve players likely are too. The forums are mostly where the dregs and the marginalised weirdos hang out and shouldn't be confused with Eve-players as a whole.
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Natassia Krasnoo
R3D SHIFT Brothers Of The Dark Sun
303
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Posted - 2014.04.11 20:30:00 -
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shortattenionsp wrote:Insightful, honest, intelligent and damn spot on post describing posting on the inter webs.
I'm not sure who you are or where you came from but this can go one of a few different ways from here.
1.) You just gained a lot of cult like followers who are going to hang on your every word from now on. 2.) You just angered a lot of trolls who are going to make your in game life hell. 3.) Nothing.
Now that being said.
Dont't you ever...ever...EVER post something that makes sense or is intelligent in GD again. You're going to ruin it!
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Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
216
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Posted - 2014.04.11 20:37:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Half of the trolls here never got past the NPE complexity of the game so last resort to be a "member" of the community they troll their ways here.
/c I've noticed you being far more present ... ... and far more aggressive as of late.
Well ... far more aggressive ... for your standards at least. |
Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland Test Alliance Please Ignore
623
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Posted - 2014.04.11 20:53:00 -
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Oh, boy. A thread that isn't locked. I can haz poast!
The answer to your question is that is taks very little effort to pos on the forums and gratification is nearly instant. Playing in game requires effort and a significant portion of waiting.
ie: there are more BitterVets on the forums. Free Ripley Weaver! |
Billy McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
327
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Posted - 2014.04.11 20:57:00 -
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i fink it is beak oss thet theyr r a lote of peepel wat r nawt old enuff two flie there oun spacehseep and dis is an onny plaice wer thye can in joye tha gam wiffout der moth hers tellun them to get up an goe to skool
at leest thas wat is teh raisin fer mii |
Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
277
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Posted - 2014.04.11 20:58:00 -
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I expect this thread to continue to be, and grow into an even better demonstration of the OP's observation that the forums are littered with hate. Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |
Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
143
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:11:00 -
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Because in game, I can blow you up to establish my superiority, where as on the forum, I have to show it to you. And what better way to go about that, than to take your argument, fold it on itself, and serve it cold, all the while I force you to wear the "Dunce" cone of shame. This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |
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