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Big Lynx
The Gun Runners
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Posted - 2014.04.11 20:59:00 -
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Imagine you would biomass all your toons + assets today and make complete brandnew restart only with 5000isk. Would you go a different way or would you play again at all? What would change in your rl? |
Billy McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
327
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Posted - 2014.04.11 20:59:00 -
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Big Lynx wrote:Imagine you would biomass all your toons + assets today and make complete brandnew restart only with 5000isk. Would you go a different way or would you play again at all? What would change in your rl?
ied bee 400oisk beater orf |
Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
277
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:00:00 -
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Any veteran who says he would quit the game if required to start over has no right to tell a new player to enjoy playing the game in his present situation.
I look forward to the answers provided by the old vets to your question. Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |
Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
143
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:02:00 -
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In my RL? nothing at all. I don't see how your proposed event would affect my RL in any way.
Now, to answer the subject of the question. I would, for starters, start with Amarr (master race). I would focus strongly on cruicer and t3 PVE, and wait until I can fly the respective carrier before I start cross training.
How does it differ from what I did? Well, I started with Minmatar with a mix of gallente all the way up to BS, then focused on Amarr with a mix of Caldari up to BS, and continued to improve on all of my fitting skills as well as tanking skills.
All in all, it's been a very ineffective thing, but it's opened pretty much all of the doors for me.
OH, and I would get an exploration alt right away. This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
429
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:05:00 -
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I'd probably focus on pvp more and make indy alts again. I like to try a little of everything and always have been trying new things as i can.
So, nothing would really be different. I would just have a more clear idea what I'm doing. |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
575
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:05:00 -
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Big Lynx wrote:Imagine you would biomass all your toons + assets today and make complete brandnew restart only with 5000isk. Would you go a different way or would you play again at all? What would change in your rl? I do this every time I creat a new pilot. My question would be if I had no support from my other toons would I?
Hmmm would be good time to correct any mistakes that you made in previous history. |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
349
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:06:00 -
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This depends on which way you are asking.
1) if I chose to biomass and start over, lets say because I looked at my skills and went '**** I wasted a lot of sp's' Then in this case I would follow the same type of path, but Da would be more industrial. There was a time when I pumped pvp skills into him.. then I realized I suck at pvp and would rather have an alt do that. So not much would change in this scenario
2) If ccp had this 'glorious' reset, i'd prolly be pissed off, but follow the same path.
3) If CCP announced closing eve and launching EvE 2 but we all have to make new chars, and with this everything that is broken in eve is fixed... i'd still follow the same path
of the 3 senarios only the middle one I would be mad about. Not because of the lost SP's but then because it would seem that 10 blood years was for nothing (in the grand scheme is is for nothing, if eve died tomorrow I have nothing to show for the 10 years I spent here, but in my head, as long as Da is here I can say 'see what I wasted 1o years on? =D"
I have made many alts at various times for various reasons, I have helped many noobs and ran the NPE myself several times. so it would not bother me, i'd just be annoyed if it was a forced reset and eve still had broken crap (fix pos' and finish pi and WIS damn it!) |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
1563
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:06:00 -
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Nothing would change my RL, because EVE has nothing to do with the real world.
No, I would not go a different route. I would still want to PvP.
As for the first part of your question, it would be pointless to biomass my toon when I could sell him and donate all my assets to my corp. Trashing all your assets and ISK, then biomassing is a pretty selfish thing to do to the EVE community. Most of us "bittervets" actually do care about the community, as a whole, even if we don't give a rip about individual players. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11128
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:10:00 -
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Start work on getting into a megathron again. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17792
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:12:00 -
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Billy McCandless wrote:Big Lynx wrote:Imagine you would biomass all your toons + assets today and make complete brandnew restart only with 5000isk. Would you go a different way or would you play again at all? What would change in your rl? ied bee 400oisk beater orf I'm going to ask Ramona to repeatedly beat you with an English dictionary, or tell Ma McCandless that you're skipping school again to fly your spaceships
In answer to the OP, if I was to start again I'd explore areas of the game I haven't currently partaken of. I'd also be a lot more focussed in what I trained.
This character can do a lot of things relatively well, but doesn't excel at anything. My skills are all over the place, but will be getting more focussed once I get my newbie alt where I want it to be.
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Karen Avioras
Unsung Heroes The Volition Cult
369
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:15:00 -
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Billy McCandless wrote:Big Lynx wrote:Imagine you would biomass all your toons + assets today and make complete brandnew restart only with 5000isk. Would you go a different way or would you play again at all? What would change in your rl? ied bee 400oisk beater orf
I've missed you |
Billy McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
331
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:15:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Billy McCandless wrote:Big Lynx wrote:Imagine you would biomass all your toons + assets today and make complete brandnew restart only with 5000isk. Would you go a different way or would you play again at all? What would change in your rl? ied bee 400oisk beater orf I'm going to ask Ramona to repeatedly beat you with an English dictionary, or tell Ma McCandless that you're skipping school again to fly your spaceships .
Yore a meenie
Moan-a (lelz) is owt wif hur knew bf (or gf, i kant tell) an Ma is inn anuffer wum ov hur drankun stoophors an has fellen doun tha bakc of teh sofeah "Thread locked for being deemed a total loss." - ISD Ezwal |
Billy McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
331
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:16:00 -
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Karen Avioras wrote:Billy McCandless wrote:Big Lynx wrote:Imagine you would biomass all your toons + assets today and make complete brandnew restart only with 5000isk. Would you go a different way or would you play again at all? What would change in your rl? ied bee 400oisk beater orf I've missed you
eyev mist yuo tue, anty keran "Thread locked for being deemed a total loss." - ISD Ezwal |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20648
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:18:00 -
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No reason to do it any differently. It would go a hell of a lot faster this time, though. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
12053
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:20:00 -
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I would train for a catalyst.
oh wait... I train for that everytime anyways. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
310
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:39:00 -
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Big Lynx wrote:Imagine you would biomass all your toons + assets today and make complete brandnew restart only with 5000isk. Would you go a different way or would you play again at all? What would change in your rl? I wouldn't go the same route I went as a noob. I would continue playing the way I currently play.
But I also frequently create new characters and then go do random things with them. Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM! |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
216
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:46:00 -
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Well...
I guess I would drop Hek.
I guess I would seek out a new part of space.
A part of space suiting my name.
A part of space that isn't yet as crowded.
I guess I would stop using destroyers to pop pods, because everybody is using them and that bothers me.
I can do with less.
And I would still refuse to use alts to make my game easier. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4716
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:51:00 -
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I would handle the SP system differently.
For example I have an alt that is just under 2M SP and can deliver some heinous DPS with a battle cruiser simple because of proper skill planning. This is not something I did back in 2006 when I started, and it was years before I could fly anything larger than a frigate correctly.
So knowing for a fact that it does not take years to be effective I would keep playing.
Remember, big numbers of SP mean NOTHING for how you play, especially when you are not flying heavies. You might need to be really up there in SP if you want to fly a titan effectively, but that's nothing to expect to be able to do in short order.
And those who are buttmad because they can't "powerlevel" into a cap ship because they don't have to take time to work and pay their own rent or something can go find another game to play. Plenty of MMOs out there that favor the "He who has the least life wins" model of progression.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Hevymetal
POT Corp Semper Ardens Alliance
244
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:53:00 -
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Starting over from when? 7 1/2 years ago when I started or from today?
Knowing what I know now........
1. I would not spend the first 5 months training learning skills. 2. I would get implants ASAP 3. I would probably spend lesss time mining 4. I would grind standings for my reseaarch agents corps first and say "later on" to Caldari Navy 5. I would never trust anyone 6. I would PVP more 7. I would have invested in T2 BPOs when they were cheap 8. I would have a capital in hisec 9. I would have started an alt sooner. 10. I would have beaten up more of my friends and made then play Eve instead of saying "Meh" when they said they started playing WOW |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1825
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Posted - 2014.04.11 21:56:00 -
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Why would I start over again?
I've spent years working on this character and aquire the ISK and assets I currently have.
Just to do what?
Start over again?
You've got to be joking... New player experience, more highsec PvE missions, casual play, balance, counters to AFK cloaking, expanding the NEX store, and Power Projection.
Azami Nevinyrall for CSM9! |
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Nariya Kentaya
Phoenix funds
1201
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Posted - 2014.04.11 22:01:00 -
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Big Lynx wrote:Imagine you would biomass all your toons + assets today and make complete brandnew restart only with 5000isk. Would you go a different way or would you play again at all? What would change in your rl?
Divine Entervention wrote:Any veteran who says he would quit the game if required to start over has no right to tell a new player to enjoy playing the game in his present situation.
I look forward to the answers provided by the old vets to your question.
THats a biased opinion. obviosuly I would stop playing, as Ive invested years to get where I am and what I have, to be told to start all over with nothing would make my past choices meaningless, taking away any sentiment I had for the game.
This is what I dont like about people who argue against vets about how hypocritical they are for not wanting to start as a new player if new players are so "fine". Its literally like saying little league isnt a good sport because professional baseball players dont want to quit their 6 figure jobs (which is ridiculous pay) to go play little league again, when in truth they DID play little league, succeeded, and went on with further practice to eventually join pro-leagues, that doesnt mean little leagues are bad, just that they had already been through that, earned their stripes, and would not wish to go through it again, but they will acknowledge if they hadnt they wouldnt have gotten to where they are today. |
Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
1668
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Posted - 2014.04.11 22:02:00 -
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Big Lynx wrote:Imagine you would biomass all your toons + assets today and make complete brandnew restart only with 5000isk. Would you go a different way or would you play again at all? What would change in your rl?
No, and nothing, respectively.
Unlike the "instant gratification crowd",one of the things I like most about EVE is that it takes TIME and PLANNING to achieve great things.
Which is why when I see various posts asking, crying, demanding and/or whining to CCP to make things easier, faster and/or simpler to do -- I LAUGH.
People need to learn patience -- a skill they can, funny enough, use in RL.
Or they can go back to flipping burgers. Their choice.
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Seven Koskanaiken
The Shadow Plague Fidelas Constans
1169
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Posted - 2014.04.11 22:02:00 -
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The best moment in EVE is undocking is your Ibis for the first time to Miner Stories playing in the background. It's all gradually downhill from there. |
KnowUsByTheDead
Krypteia Operations CODE.
1271
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Posted - 2014.04.11 22:03:00 -
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I, ironically, started three new chars last night.
And they are all focus-trained toward my current professions.
So...
I guess, get by just fine?
Certainly better than when I created my first char.
Didn't have the handholding of today, and the NPE was more of a joke then.
Nope, it was, "Here's your noob ship, Welcome to EvE."
My options from Rookie Help were:
"Join a corp."
"Do the SOE arc."
or
"It's a sandbox, do what you want."
So...
I did what I wanted. Certainly wouldn't change due to skillpoints and lack of isk. Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
216
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Posted - 2014.04.11 22:04:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:The best moment in EVE is undocking is your Ibis for the first time to Miner Stories playing in the background. It's all gradually downhill from there whatever you do. The ONE thing all of us share.
And they removed it. |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
218
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Posted - 2014.04.11 22:06:00 -
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KnowUsByTheDead wrote:I, ironically, started three new chars last night.
And they are all focus-trained toward my current professions.
So...
I guess, get by just fine?
Certainly better than when I created my first char.
Didn't have the handholding of today, and the NPE was more of a joke then.
Nope, it was, "Here's your noob ship, Welcome to EvE."
My options from Rookie Help were:
"Join a corp."
"Do the SOE arc."
or
"It's a sandbox, do what you want."
So...
I did what I wanted. Certainly wouldn't change due to skillpoints and lack of isk. I have to correct you.
It wasn't " Here's your noobship. Welcome to EVE."
It was "Here's a Rubiks Cube. Go **** yourself!"
I miss SoundWave!
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Roger Kiyosaki
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.04.11 22:06:00 -
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Wouldn't do much differently. My two (still active) toons had a solid head start ISK-wise from selling my first misfit. So the major difference would be that I'd have to make ISKies straight away. Not that difficult while training PVP skills anyway.
So basically, create PVP toon, fly cheap ships. Rat, mission, whatever to afford those. Then create trader toon to make more ISK.
Nothing would change in RL. Not sure how that is even a thought that crossed your mind unless you're taking this game wayyyy to seriously or I completely misunderstood that one. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4597
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Posted - 2014.04.11 22:10:00 -
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Can I assume that everyone is equally screwed in this scenario, or is it just me?
If everyone is equally screwed, meh, I don't care.
If it's just me, I skill into a destroyer, probably the Talwar or the Dragoon, and I run the Angel Epic Arc. With that initial capital, I can start marketing and scamming.
Then I buy a 20mil+ skillpoint character after a couple months, and call it good. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Rikanin
30plus Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
91
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Posted - 2014.04.11 22:11:00 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote:Big Lynx wrote:Imagine you would biomass all your toons + assets today and make complete brandnew restart only with 5000isk. Would you go a different way or would you play again at all? What would change in your rl? Divine Entervention wrote:Any veteran who says he would quit the game if required to start over has no right to tell a new player to enjoy playing the game in his present situation.
I look forward to the answers provided by the old vets to your question. THats a biased opinion. obviosuly I would stop playing, as Ive invested years to get where I am and what I have, to be told to start all over with nothing would make my past choices meaningless, taking away any sentiment I had for the game. This is what I dont like about people who argue against vets about how hypocritical they are for not wanting to start as a new player if new players are so "fine". Its literally like saying little league isnt a good sport because professional baseball players dont want to quit their 6 figure jobs (which is ridiculous pay) to go play little league again, when in truth they DID play little league, succeeded, and went on with further practice to eventually join pro-leagues, that doesnt mean little leagues are bad, just that they had already been through that, earned their stripes, and would not wish to go through it again, but they will acknowledge if they hadnt they wouldnt have gotten to where they are today.
Right - if a vet did it on purpose of course they wouldn't rage quit and like someone else said...it'd go a whole lot faster this time around.
If it wasn't by choice that's a hard pill to swallow to lose all that time and effort but it doesn't negate the fact that noobs have it easier than we did when we started.
Is 'bitter noob' a thing these days?
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KnowUsByTheDead
Krypteia Operations CODE.
1271
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Posted - 2014.04.11 22:12:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:
I have to correct you.
It wasn't " Here's your noobship. Welcome to EVE."
It was "Here's a Rubiks Cube. Go **** yourself!"
I miss SoundWave!
Certainly not empty quoting, lol.
Much better representation.
Thanks, Sol!!!
Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á |
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