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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.04.14 01:48:00 -
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wilgotna wrote: then pis off
your pseudointellectual spew is not wanted here
The majority of people on both sides of the warzone are happy with FW. Apart from the extent of farming. Having a gallente PVP corp change sides isnt exactly realistic since there are few established corps as described that either desire to throw away the foundations they have built or have the standings to make the move.
Therefore, you complaints are not common to the people who are actually in FW and you solution is practically impossible.
Thats why your post lacks any content.
On top of that, i personally like the farming pendulum. It ensures action is focused on each others home systems from time to time. |
Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.04.14 01:56:00 -
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wtf is this a plea for halp?
Don't worry Wil, there is bound to be some failure at blue donut nullsec diplomacy blob alliance that will breath new (same old) life into Calmil. The lack of imagination in such groups is telling.
Easy access to Jita, check. The bottomless carebear Navy Raven market, check. The fact that most the members probably already have high Caldari standings from mission running days in some overstocked caldari navy mission hub of yore, check. Level 4 Calmil FW missions a breeze compared to Galmil missions against endless range and jamming rats, check
The cycle will repeat.
Who really gives a ****? |
JAF Anders
Quantum Cats Syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.04.14 02:15:00 -
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GavinGoodrich wrote: And puh-weeeeeeaze guys stop claling it sov. it's occupancy! gal/cal have sov, militias handle occupancy.
Alas, from a technical standpoint, CCP removed the mechanic of occupancy with Inferno. QCATS is Recruiting: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |
Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm. Black Flag Society
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Posted - 2014.04.14 05:02:00 -
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wilgotna wrote:the gal/cal warzone is broken
gallente are way better and everyone knows it
almost everyone with a brain joins gallente because they dont want to get steamrolled in a computer game in their free time
there are only a few kinds of people who join caldari 1. idiots 2. farmers (russians/ukrainians doing rmt) 3. corps/alliances who think that "getting pounded = content creation for our members" (test/borg) (see #1) 4. roleplayers (diana kim & ibanez) 5. people who join accidentally, realize it's not fun, and then defect later (baron soontirfail)
sure there is the occasional case of a decent group joining caldari (b2k). but then the gallente cowards start batphoning every single fight
now the forum is like this
gallente forum posters: omg theres nobody for me to gangbang with my huge gallente blob, this is not fun. i try to gangbang the farmers but they just run away or fit warp core stabs wtffffff
caldari forum posters: omg all my buddies were sick of getting gangbanged so they quit FW and now I cant even undock cuz it'll be such a savage gangbang that it makes me depressed even thinking about it wtffffff
TLDR: the only way to fix the warzone is for half of the gallente poofsters to defect and fight against their former allies
it certainly doesn't help when the only lp store stuff you want from caldari are cnr, hookbill and faction ammo. On account of just about everything else being better from other lp stores or costing a gorillion tags which as has been noted elsewhere are practically impossible to attain.
LP store weapon cost rebalance |
Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.04.14 07:28:00 -
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Latest iteration of Caldari wasn't too bad. For a good 6 months, they had decent FCs, ran weekly fleets of all sizes (I saw 30 man drake fleet and 40 man AHAC fleet once) and alliances were working together.
But someone on their side decided it was a great idea to split forces and move into Oicx and the resulting loss of that system created a domino effect which eventually resulted in them losing Fortress Innia. One bad strategic move costed them the foundation they had built for 6 months.
If you don't want this to happen again, tell your leaders don't try to grind sov against the Gallente, who are far more organized. Though, as I speak, I'm sure some genius over there is scheming a way to reclaim Innia again.... High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve . |
Epikurus
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.04.14 09:48:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:Latest iteration of Caldari wasn't too bad. For a good 6 months, they had decent FCs, ran weekly fleets of all sizes (I saw 30 man drake fleet and 40 man AHAC fleet once) and alliances were working together.
But someone on their side decided it was a great idea to split forces and move into Oicx and the resulting loss of that system created a domino effect which eventually resulted in them losing Fortress Innia. One bad strategic move costed them the foundation they had built for 6 months.
If you don't want this to happen again, tell your leaders don't try to grind sov against the Gallente, who are far more organized. Though, as I speak, I'm sure some genius over there is scheming a way to reclaim Innia again....
Agree with most of what you say and Oicx was certainly significant but it was just one factor in the chain of events that led to the loss of Innia. Two bigger contributing factors were a) losing a large number of our FCs to real life in a very short period of time (Cyrus, Mnemic and a number of others) as well as losing Vicktor Hark to other areas of the game, and b) the opposition shifting up a gear. A sudden gutting of the militia's regularly scheduled fleets obviously had a big impact on activity and we can't overlook the fact that the Gallente brought a new degree of concentration of forces to the table at exactly the same time. Oicx had an effect but I don't think it was the main cause.
Quote: @ Gavin- I think some of your FCs are too ambitious with constantly trying to do these big 30-40 man gangs all the time. It simply doesn't scale at that level. Shrink your ambitions down to 10-20 and you'll have more fun and get better uniformity.
This was Vick's biggest problem - he wanted to lead fleets composed of players who didn't exist rather than aiming to get the best out of those who did exist.
Bertholt Brecht wrote: After the uprising of the 17th of June The Secretary of the Writers Union Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee Stating that the people Had forfeited the confidence of the government And could win it back only By redoubled efforts.
Would it not be easier In that case for the government To dissolve the people And elect another?
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Yuri Antollare
Justified Chaos
48
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:05:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:Look, here's the issue;
Gallente: Lots of chiefs. Not enough Indians. Caldari: Lots of Indians. Not enough chiefs.
Solution?
We send some of our chiefs over to you to balance the situation. As a gesture of goodwill, we will send our top two chiefs; Guiynan and Perunga. Free of charge!
So between those two and Mira, you will have very memorable fleet experiences every single day and they will be the anchor of Caldari power for years to come.
Problem solved. You're all welcome.
Yes once they finally have some new/more/replacement FCs they can join a giant fleet every day and roam around baiting and ganking individual plexers with their mighty blob.
Afterall, why have a diffuse group of players on comms running multiple plexes when you can have a fleet of 20 dudes with an FC and blob the **** out of one plex.
Pretty soon you'll have enough pilots that are good enough to know they shouldn't undock unless *that* FC is on. I mean, who cares if the system hovers around 40%, its not like anyone loses their homes due to sudden offensives.
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Freakdevil
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:01:00 -
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Is it really that bad out there? I see Caldari Militia in Badgers all the time leaving Jita. Almost shot one until I realized I am not in the Militia! Actually more importantly they didn't have anything worth ganking or I would have anyway.
The stats do look kinda ugly against Caldari and Amarr. I am guessing that Caldari Militia have more alts and low SP characters and therefore are more likely to farm and avoid combat.
Not sure what CCP can do other than limit the # per side enrolled in Militia.
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Elnoo
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:47:00 -
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I think people seem to miss the whole FW idea sometimes.
I joined as I got tired of sov warfare, and also didn't particularly enjoy the fact that I was forced to log on to do a CTA. FW is great for logging on GÇô getting some fights GÇô logging off GÇô rinse GÇô repeat.
Unfortunately FW has become a place that people see as an area to grind isk by means of LP farming. Now IGÇÖm not even going to go into the whole GÇ£Farmers ruin the game for all of usGÇ¥ saga. All I want to say is that we need to remember that the Militia is not an Alliance. Most of the time they are an alt of a HS mission runner or miner who would like to try out PVP. These guys can barely fly a proper stabbed rookie shipGǪ let alone a fleet doctrine that was made by someone who belongs to an alliance where they actually use doctrines.
Doctrines are great for people who can fly them, and when the whole fleet flies them. Otherwise you have a few people in doctrine cruisers/dessies/afGÇÖs who are supported by the kitchen sink who are just there to see what itGÇÖs like to fly in a fleet.
We can debate who **** is and who is not, but the fact of the matter is: - The side with the best organisation wins - The side that wins will get more people who want to fly with them or grind LP on that side as that means the tier side will be higher meaning better lp/isk.
Its simple logic GÇô the kid with the nicest toys will have the most friends. OR The guy with the hot wife who hates underwear will have more friends over at his house.
But like I mentioned beforeGǪ it will change. As soon as the Gallente LP becomes useless due to market flooding the farmers will change sides and put more systems into vulnerability which in turn will be flipped.
Or based on the example:
The kid with the cool toys.. as soon as the toys break the friends will find the new guy with the best toys. OR As soon as the hot wife mysteriously falls pregnant GÇô the friends who use to come over will find a new place to hang out.
Right now Calmil is bleeding members. As said before it can be attributed to a number of reasons. Regardless of the reasons GÇô Galmil has the strength in numbers and therefor will have the upper hand in the warzone.
SimplesGǪ Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings. |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
185
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:00:00 -
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Farmers move based on the Pendulum of FW, haven't seen many PVPers do it. BLFOX is currently recruiting |
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wilgotna
Rubtech Equity Research Group
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Posted - 2014.04.14 21:26:00 -
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guys i already debunked the chiefs/indians theory in my original post.
most of the indians on the caldari side are just not good at playing eve. (sad really because eve is so easy)
the caldari could get the best fc with the most exotic european accent in all of eve and they would still lose.
eve isnt some disney pixar movie where the morons win through the power of believing in themselves. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2145
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Posted - 2014.04.14 21:26:00 -
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Elnoo wrote:
Its simple logic GÇô the kid with the nicest toys will have the most friends. OR The guy with the hot wife who hates wearing underwear will have more friends over at his house.
The guy who picks a strong dependable partner as a wife wins. Gallente corps are not easily influenced by shiny toys (massive isk due to easy missions/Navy Ravens) and hot wives (FCs). |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2145
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Posted - 2014.04.14 21:33:00 -
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wilgotna wrote:eve isnt some disney pixar movie where the morons win through the power of believing in themselves. There's a Test Alliance Please Ignore joke in there somewhere. |
Elnoo
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2014.04.14 21:36:00 -
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LOL @ X Gallentius - There is a TEST joke everywhere Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.04.14 22:19:00 -
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I've edited out some rule breaking parts in the OP and removed the posts quoting those parts.
This thread is also locked.
The Rules: 3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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