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Percival Rose
Decima Security
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Posted - 2014.04.12 13:26:00 -
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When I first started playing EVE Online, I focused on making as much ISK as humanly possible with my brand new character Chris Carlyle. I ended up station trading, missioning and mining. I created Decima Technologies and it all more or less fell apart when an unexpected wardec crippled our logistics and scared the newbies.
Truth be told, I rage quit only to come back the same week. I'm still sitting on a bunch of ISK and a bunch of mission ships which makes it easy to fund my new hobby: blowing up other player's spaceships.
I want to stop mining, trading and missioning to focus on PvP entirely and I'm looking for some ideas to fund this when my 'retirement fund' runs out. I have a few ideas myself but I appreciate all input: - Paid wardecs / assistance requests - POS / PoCo removal - Gatecamping, suicide ganking and or wardeccing for loot and profit - Extortion / ransoms - PLEX Do you know who's going to inherit New Eden? Arms dealers. Because everyone else is too busy killing each other. |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
180
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Posted - 2014.04.12 13:33:00 -
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Join FW. BLFOX is currently recruiting |
Percival Rose
Decima Security
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Posted - 2014.04.12 13:35:00 -
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Thanatos Marathon wrote:Join FW. That's definitely a good idea, although that would mean my whole alliance would have to enlist. (I hopped corp to evade a wardec and move my old mission boats to Jita but am in the process of re-joining the Axiom Initiative). Do you know who's going to inherit New Eden? Arms dealers. Because everyone else is too busy killing each other. |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
180
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Posted - 2014.04.12 14:02:00 -
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Percival Rose wrote:Thanatos Marathon wrote:Join FW. That's definitely a good idea, although that would mean my whole alliance would have to enlist. (I hopped corp to evade a wardec and move my old mission boats to Jita but am in the process of re-joining the Axiom Initiative).
Join a PVP corp. BLFOX is currently recruiting |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
2053
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Posted - 2014.04.12 14:09:00 -
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If you have a decent job and consider your time valuable. By far the best isk/hr you can get is plex.
I for one am an extremely busy person and i am not about to spend my short time in eve doing missions, and for that, plex is wonderful. BYDI recruitment closed-ish |
Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
250
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Posted - 2014.04.12 17:27:00 -
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Make PvP into a career.
I act as a 'line pilot' for a sov null alliance. We have a robust SRP, pre-fit doctrine ships on contract at a discount, subsidies for purchasing expensive ships, and ships just handed to me on short notice if needed. (since they will be reimbursed, alliance mates are also quick to loan out ships to help get you into fleet) Since I'm part of a large alliance and larger coalition, there is ALWAYS something in the fleet finder. If not, I am certain to get people to join if I create a fleet and FC.
The only PvE I do is when I'm bored between PvP fleets. I did enough to purchase a few ships up front, and now fly on our SRP, often profiting from ship losses. Since my ships are replaced, I don't need a hangar full of them. I generally keep two of whatever I fly so I can reship immediately if needed, but usually get my reimbursement very quickly anyhow. I can fly something useful for any given doctrine we have, even if it's just a Dictor.
Many alliances will further reward logistics pilots, command ship pilots, and suicide tackle like dictors. Command pilots usually get handed appropriate implants as well.
I've had the same half a bil in my wallet for ages- having very little need for isk. This is because I fight 'for something' and not just to collect KM's no one cares about. Simply put, PvP is my 'job' in Eve. It not only costs me nothing to do, but I often profit from it. |
Starbuck05
Evil Monkey Asylum Evil Monkeys Asylum
181
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Posted - 2014.04.12 18:51:00 -
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Fw is about the only place where ( except for pirating ) you can make money while you pvp .
If Fw doesn't help fund your pvp .. i dunno what will -á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir ! -á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ?? |
Taoist Dragon
Sh1t Happens. And then you die.
942
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Posted - 2014.04.12 20:40:00 -
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Starbuck05 wrote:Fw is about the only place where ( except for pirating ) you can make money while you pvp .
If Fw doesn't help fund your pvp .. i dunno what will
Another vote for FW to allow you to have a pvp lifestyle, if you will, and easily be able to fun your activities.
Alaric make a good point about becoming a 'career' combat pilot in a big alliance and is one that I have thought about on manyy occasions. But I don't play well with big groups of people and like doing my own thing so FW (and a little bit of piracy on the side) is my thing.
I would be careful of just going pirate though. A Lot of them claim to make isk from it but in reality most have alts that trade, run missions, manufacture etc to make their isk. The only pirate groups (and you have to be in a decent group for this) that I know mkae isk from piracy are the station humping/gate camping ones. Not saying this is bad or anything it's just a game play that I couldn't do for an extended period of time.
So in summary my advice is that if you are 'going it alone' or with a very small corp then join FW, by far the easiest way to fun your pvp. If you don't mind being part of a bigger team and taking orders then join a big group (Null or pirate) that can assist from an alliance/logistical point of view. That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
http://taoistdragon.blogspot.com.au/ |
Percival Rose
Decima Security Axiom Initiative
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Posted - 2014.04.13 11:14:00 -
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Taoist Dragon wrote: So in summary my advice is that if you are 'going it alone' or with a very small corp then join FW, by far the easiest way to fun your pvp. If you don't mind being part of a bigger team and taking orders then join a big group (Null or pirate) that can assist from an alliance/logistical point of view.
It would be easier to just join a big null alliance. Our alliance is relatively small at this point, but we have an amazing group. I'm here to stay.
Alaric Faelen wrote:Make PvP into a career. Many alliances will further reward logistics pilots, command ship pilots, and suicide tackle like dictors. Command pilots usually get handed appropriate implants as well.
I guess I should talk to my executor :)
Garviel Tarrant wrote: If you have a decent job and consider your time valuable. By far the best isk/hr you can get is plex.
I'll definitely consider this when my ISK runs out. One PLEX could buy me a lot of frigates. Do you know who's going to inherit New Eden? Arms dealers. Because everyone else is too busy killing each other. |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
2053
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Posted - 2014.04.13 16:57:00 -
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Percival Rose wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote: If you have a decent job and consider your time valuable. By far the best isk/hr you can get is plex.
I'll definitely consider this when my ISK runs out. One PLEX could buy me a lot of frigates.
I fund all my pvp on like 4 plex a year. BYDI recruitment closed-ish |
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Bowman Amouh
Brave Operations - Lollipop Division Brave Collective
0
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Posted - 2014.04.13 21:33:00 -
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PI. All you need to do is set up some null PI, and take your blockade runner or epithal around picking up your loot every so often. Then just haul it out of null. |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
773
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Posted - 2014.04.16 02:13:00 -
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I read the thread wrong.
Came here looking for info on a
PvP Hobbit. |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
1101
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Posted - 2014.04.16 03:26:00 -
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RavenPaine wrote:I read the thread wrong.
Came here looking for info on a
PvP Hobbit.
I know this will sound silly but Caldari apparently has one.
Rumor is that one member actually played a Hobbit in the LOTR movies. Docked since 2009. |
l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment The Camel Empire
910
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Posted - 2014.04.16 13:39:00 -
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Run lowsec DED sites in a PvP ship.
It's like getting paid to do pvp. German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
Percival Rose
Decima Security Axiom Initiative
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Posted - 2014.04.17 11:59:00 -
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l0rd carlos wrote:Run lowsec DED sites in a PvP ship.
It's like getting paid to do pvp. I do like running sites. Thanks for the tip! Problem solved :) Do you know who's going to inherit New Eden? Arms dealers. Because everyone else is too busy killing each other. |
God's Apples
Aunenen Civil Liberties Union
366
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Posted - 2014.04.23 03:59:00 -
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Percival Rose wrote:l0rd carlos wrote:Run lowsec DED sites in a PvP ship.
It's like getting paid to do pvp. I do like running sites. Thanks for the tip! Problem solved :)
Yup get a link alt with probes and pvp fit HAM cerb, 100mn tengu, ishtar etc and make big bucks while dunking scrubs that probe you down looking for easy ganks. Of course you do have to know the locals and what they are capable of so that you know when to fight and when to give up the plex.
Doing this with a friend is more fun and opens up your viable ship choices. Just remember it should probably be a HAC or t3 with the proper base resist profile for the rats (gallente and caldari t2 vs serp and guristas etc) to ensure that you don't need to fit hardeners to your ship to tank the rats. |
Taoist Dragon
Sh1t Happens. And then you die.
953
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Posted - 2014.04.23 07:23:00 -
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I point blank refuse to do anything that you HAVE to have a link alt for. If more than 1 ship is required go get some friends and do it properly!
But for easy isk making nothing beats FW hands down! It's bad tbh that it is so easy to make isk imo. But man it is boring as all buggery!
I run DED/combat site when I want a more 'active' pve time sink. That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
http://taoistdragon.blogspot.com.au/ |
flakeys
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
2150
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Posted - 2014.04.23 12:23:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:If you have a decent job and consider your time valuable. By far the best isk/hr you can get is plex.
I for one am an extremely busy person and i am not about to spend my short time in eve doing missions, and for that, plex is wonderful.
He said he has done marketing , if he's any good at it he should be making allmost passive isk with it.
SO , what i'd suggest is as others said join FW as it can be a hell of a lot of fun , and at times a hell of a lot of frustration as i had last night loosing about every fight i engaged .As a trader making your isk out there is also simple , you can easily spot the main hubs for your own and opposing factions and you can seed the markets there.Should only cost you a few hours a week but it'll pay for your most ships+plex for your subscription.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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God's Apples
Aunenen Civil Liberties Union
366
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Posted - 2014.04.23 20:54:00 -
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Taoist Dragon wrote:I point blank refuse to do anything that you HAVE to have a link alt for. If more than 1 ship is required go get some friends and do it properly!
But for easy isk making nothing beats FW hands down! It's bad tbh that it is so easy to make isk imo. But man it is boring as all buggery!
I run DED/combat site when I want a more 'active' pve time sink.
Of course you don't need one, but honestly if you want to do pvp while running them you will be fighting outnumbered, against recons and logi, all of whom will be linked and without links yourself you're making your already large disadvantage even greater. It's also useful because you can always put combats on their links which will force more cautious players to cloak up links of put them down for a period of time while moving to a new safe giving you the link advantage. |
Taoist Dragon
Sh1t Happens. And then you die.
954
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Posted - 2014.04.24 00:10:00 -
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God's Apples wrote:Taoist Dragon wrote:I point blank refuse to do anything that you HAVE to have a link alt for. If more than 1 ship is required go get some friends and do it properly!
But for easy isk making nothing beats FW hands down! It's bad tbh that it is so easy to make isk imo. But man it is boring as all buggery!
I run DED/combat site when I want a more 'active' pve time sink. Of course you don't need one, but honestly if you want to do pvp while running them you will be fighting outnumbered, against recons and logi, all of whom will be linked and without links yourself you're making your already large disadvantage even greater. It's also useful because you can always put combats on their links which will force more cautious players to cloak up links of put them down for a period of time while moving to a new safe giving you the link advantage.
Yeah I know
I just hate it when the most common answer is to get a link alt for most activities. That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
http://taoistdragon.blogspot.com.au/ |
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Naoru Kozan
Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder
45
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Posted - 2014.04.24 08:33:00 -
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l0rd carlos wrote:Run lowsec DED sites in a PvP ship.
It's like getting paid to do pvp.
This so much. Even if you don't find any sites you are still out in space moving around. Greatly increases your chances of finding fights as well. |
Sister Lumi
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
90
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Posted - 2014.04.24 12:58:00 -
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Put an alt in FW and receive afk LP while you do other stuff on the computer. This nets easily +3billion per month, and you don't need a trained character to do it, less than 100K SP is enough. This is what most people do currently to plex their accounts and fund PVP.
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Percival Rose
Decima Security Axiom Initiative
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Posted - 2014.04.25 14:09:00 -
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Sister Lumi wrote:Put an alt in FW and receive afk LP while you do other stuff on the computer. This nets easily +3billion per month, and you don't need a trained character to do it, less than 100K SP is enough. This is what most people do currently to plex their accounts and fund PVP.
How exactly do you make money in FW afk? Do you know who's going to inherit New Eden? Arms dealers. Because everyone else is too busy killing each other. |
Maeltstome
Twisted Insanity. The Kadeshi
436
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Posted - 2014.04.25 14:47:00 -
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Fly cheap ships that counter popular current ships, kill them, sell shiny loot.
Years ago i flew a Neutron 'ranis with a 15km web - 12k/s Crow's pimped out with Gistii MWD's and Faction I-Stabs where fodder. The crusader with 4 range mods (pre rig-stacking penalty) did the same job. Every loss was 30mil, every kill was 100+ depending on the gods of loot. |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Advanced Amateurs
1256
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Posted - 2014.04.27 11:09:00 -
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Naoru Kozan wrote:l0rd carlos wrote:Run lowsec DED sites in a PvP ship.
It's like getting paid to do pvp. This so much. Even if you don't find any sites you are still out in space moving around. Greatly increases your chances of finding fights as well.
Or supplying valuable intel. Can't count the times someone out doing sites caught wind of a target. Popping POCOs can be done, usually done corp-wide as it's hard to hold them in lowsec. Their yield is better then hisec though, if you happen to have the skills for PI you'd be doing yourself a disservice if you don't set something up. Blockade runners seem like an odd choice to train for PVP pilots, but I'm getting a lot of value out of mine transporting PI stuff through lowsec but also combat modules and ammunition. FW or joining a lowsec corp that "lives off the land" are good ideas. |
Prophet Bathana
Obstergo Red Coat Conspiracy
7
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Posted - 2014.04.27 22:24:00 -
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Mix it up entirely and come to wspace. You can pull in 100m an hour running c3 sites or even higher if you're able to field capital ships/loki's in high class wormholes. It's a completely different game when compared to playing in known space. Everyday is entirely different from the last. |
Percival Rose
Decima Security Axiom Initiative
22
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:25:00 -
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Prophet Bathana wrote:Mix it up entirely and come to wspace. You can pull in 100m an hour running c3 sites or even higher if you're able to field capital ships/loki's in high class wormholes. It's a completely different game when compared to playing in known space. Everyday is entirely different from the last. We recently moved into a C2 and I love it. A C3+ would be a logical next step. Do you know who's going to inherit New Eden? Arms dealers. Because everyone else is too busy killing each other. |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Panhandle Industries Order of the Exalted
526
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:29:00 -
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Awox ransoms are another option if you have a secondary account. (hell, if you're proactive enough you might plex the account with ransom money). See my sig for more details. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Nadezda Morozovovna
X-Prot Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
16
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Posted - 2014.05.07 12:26:00 -
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Train alt for domi or ishtar and join some renter corp, yay |
Yaaar's Revenge
Infernal Creations Dirt Nap Squad.
78
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Posted - 2014.05.07 16:13:00 -
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In my experience, funding PvP is fairly straightforward as long as you follow a few specific guidelines:
- Only fly what you can afford to lose: The biggest rule in EVE, if you cannot afford to replace your PvP ship, then don't fly it until you can afford to replace it.
- Maximise the efficiency of your ships: By this I mean if your ship is worth 100M, you need to try and aim to kill more than 100M ISK with that ship, as it will justify the cost of it through destroying enemies. Not a major point, but I like to follow it
For funding my PvP efforts, I tend to build T2 ships in highsec with alts, which provides a decent source of ISK. I won't say which hull-types or ships I build as a guy's gotta have some secrets. But T2 production is a fairly profitable market, as long as you choose the right ships to build and (KEY POINT HERE) you build the components for those ships from scratch. Buying parts for T2 ships makes no money whatsoever, and people tend to make that mistake when getting into T2 production, so build everything you need from the ground up really.
Aside from that, make ISK where you can running PLEXes or my personal favourite, Relic sites. Doing that with T2 produciton, I can support 4 accounts as well as purchase masses of materials for further production and PvPing.
Hope this helps - shoot me up a mail though if you (Or anyone else reading this) has a queory or wants to know more Follow me on Twitter @Yaaars_Revenge How NOT to PvP |
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