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PrettyMuch Always Right
University of Caille Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2014.04.13 04:31:00 -
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Those who were around at the time of the Currin Trading scam know exactly what's up here
http://www.minerbumping.com/p/shareholders.html
My guess: 1 trillion. Would not be surprised to see it happen at 500bil though.
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Hesod Adee
Kiwis In Space
312
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Posted - 2014.04.13 04:54:00 -
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Judging by his posts, he either believes what he's doing, or at least enjoys the tears the New Order provides him. Either way, I can't see a large sum of ISK tempting him to cash out. If he cashes out, it will be when he is tired of the New Order.
I also can't see him as someone who treats ISK as a goal. So what would he spend the ISK on if he runs off with it ? |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
11655
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Posted - 2014.04.13 05:09:00 -
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I wouldn't put all your faith into that list though seeing as I'm listed even though I never bought any share, and the share they gave me to make it look legit was returned months ago, so clearly they don't really provide accurate shareholders there.
/c
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MotherSammy
The Conference Elite CODE.
56
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Posted - 2014.04.13 05:38:00 -
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Believe it or not, the father of the New Order and saviour of high sec actually does pay out significant reimbursements to his holy troops and has done so for some time. I can personally vouch for this. He's not simply saving up the money. It funds our noble crusade to save high sec from the rampant plague of bot-aspirants. |
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
208
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Posted - 2014.04.13 06:33:00 -
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He has less isk on hand NOW than in many previous months, why wouldn't he "cash out" a year ago at 80b??
The money goes to reimburse catalysts, for those who are completely failing at reading... |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2556
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Posted - 2014.04.13 06:33:00 -
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I actually thought James was going to do that early on, until I realised just how many gank catalysts He reimburses.
If I were Him, I'd use some of the ISK to buy tech 2 BPOs related to ganking, and run them 24/7, then eventually keep them. I think His entire attitude, however, is that He would rather watch the world burn than have isk. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 --įPsychotic Monk for CSM! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
John XIII
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
169
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Posted - 2014.04.13 08:34:00 -
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Like him or hate him, if he decides to close shop tomorrow I hope everyone will join me in applauding the incredible content he's provided EvE. |
Meilandra Vanderganken
Aliastra Gallente Federation
114
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Posted - 2014.04.13 09:57:00 -
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When he get's bored I reckon. Could be a while... |
Hesod Adee
Kiwis In Space
312
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Posted - 2014.04.13 10:11:00 -
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Loraine Gess wrote:He has less isk on hand NOW than in many previous months, why wouldn't he "cash out" a year ago at 80b??
The money goes to reimburse catalysts, for those who are completely failing at reading... If he was in it for the ISK, would it be better for him in the long term to run off with the ISK or to keep skimming off the top for a few years ? |
Percival Rose
Decima Security Axiom Initiative
20
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Posted - 2014.04.13 11:24:00 -
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Please note shares are not an actual in-game item. It's not an investment in profit but an investment in the continuity of New Order. If you're producing catalysts, and/or mining barges it's obviously good for business to make sure the ganks continue.
Chribba wrote:I wouldn't put all your faith into that list though seeing as I'm listed even though I never bought any share, and the share they gave me to make it look legit was returned months ago, so clearly they don't really provide accurate shareholders there.
/c Somebody probably bought a bunch of shares in your name just to troll you. Do you know who's going to inherit New Eden? Arms dealers. Because everyone else is too busy killing each other. |
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Capt Starfox
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
683
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Posted - 2014.04.13 11:30:00 -
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When reimbursement stops. Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
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Agondray
Dark Forge Enterprise Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
93
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Posted - 2014.04.13 19:49:00 -
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Percival Rose wrote:Please note shares are not an actual in-game item. It's not an investment in profit but an investment in the continuity of New Order. If you're producing catalysts, and/or mining barges it's obviously good for business to make sure the ganks continue. Chribba wrote:I wouldn't put all your faith into that list though seeing as I'm listed even though I never bought any share, and the share they gave me to make it look legit was returned months ago, so clearly they don't really provide accurate shareholders there.
/c Somebody probably bought a bunch of shares in your name just to troll you.
no they actually claim chribba is a supporter as well as a permit holder due to legendary status and that chribba has given much capital "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mine" -Dr. Smith |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2565
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Posted - 2014.04.13 22:59:00 -
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Chribba wrote:I wouldn't put all your faith into that list though seeing as I'm listed even though I never bought any share, and the share they gave me to make it look legit was returned months ago, so clearly they don't really provide accurate shareholders there.
/c
There have definitely been people that have purchased you shares to troll you. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 --įPsychotic Monk for CSM! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
PrettyMuch Always Right
University of Caille Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:48:00 -
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521 views and counting. Keep it up fellas, spread the word! |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Panhandle Industries Order of the Exalted
440
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:25:00 -
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Agondray wrote:Percival Rose wrote:Please note shares are not an actual in-game item. It's not an investment in profit but an investment in the continuity of New Order. If you're producing catalysts, and/or mining barges it's obviously good for business to make sure the ganks continue. Chribba wrote:I wouldn't put all your faith into that list though seeing as I'm listed even though I never bought any share, and the share they gave me to make it look legit was returned months ago, so clearly they don't really provide accurate shareholders there.
/c Somebody probably bought a bunch of shares in your name just to troll you. no they actually claim chribba is a supporter as well as a permit holder due to legendary status and that chribba has given much capital I've seen the comments you refer to, but I think that is 80% jest. I mean think about it. How can we gank the veldernaught? It would take every new order agent being online at the same time, and still require outside help. Its easier just to give Chribba a special exemption from code compliance for his time and effort in making resources that we use daily. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-į |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
575
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:43:00 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Agondray wrote:Percival Rose wrote:Please note shares are not an actual in-game item. It's not an investment in profit but an investment in the continuity of New Order. If you're producing catalysts, and/or mining barges it's obviously good for business to make sure the ganks continue. Chribba wrote:I wouldn't put all your faith into that list though seeing as I'm listed even though I never bought any share, and the share they gave me to make it look legit was returned months ago, so clearly they don't really provide accurate shareholders there.
/c Somebody probably bought a bunch of shares in your name just to troll you. no they actually claim chribba is a supporter as well as a permit holder due to legendary status and that chribba has given much capital I've seen the comments you refer to, but I think that is 80% jest. I mean think about it. How can we gank the veldernaught? It would take every new order agent being online at the same time, and still require outside help. Its easier just to give Chribba a special exemption from code compliance for his time and effort in making resources that we use daily.
I would happily join up to gank that. Just for the sake of being part of the crew that did it. Its a piece of New Eden history right there. Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Psychotic Monk for CSM 9 |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2587
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Posted - 2014.04.14 22:41:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Agondray wrote:Percival Rose wrote:Please note shares are not an actual in-game item. It's not an investment in profit but an investment in the continuity of New Order. If you're producing catalysts, and/or mining barges it's obviously good for business to make sure the ganks continue. Chribba wrote:I wouldn't put all your faith into that list though seeing as I'm listed even though I never bought any share, and the share they gave me to make it look legit was returned months ago, so clearly they don't really provide accurate shareholders there.
/c Somebody probably bought a bunch of shares in your name just to troll you. no they actually claim chribba is a supporter as well as a permit holder due to legendary status and that chribba has given much capital I've seen the comments you refer to, but I think that is 80% jest. I mean think about it. How can we gank the veldernaught? It would take every new order agent being online at the same time, and still require outside help. Its easier just to give Chribba a special exemption from code compliance for his time and effort in making resources that we use daily. I would happily join up to gank that. Just for the sake of being part of the crew that did it. Its a piece of New Eden history right there.
I too would bring a gank Talos or Tornado to euthanize the Veldnaught. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 --įPsychotic Monk for CSM! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Miulan Ng
Thirty Pieces of Silver
6
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Posted - 2014.04.14 23:17:00 -
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Please pardon my newness to the topic, but I'd think someone as influential as James 315 would have been the subject of at least one psychological profile by adversaries and/or allies to aid in strategic planing? Such analysis might provide insight into motivations and hence future, potential actions. Mors tua, vita mia. |
Winchester Steele
964
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:19:00 -
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James 315 cashes out on the tears of those who oppose him every single day.
ISK is a worthless consideration for a guy like him. ... |
Winchester Steele
964
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:23:00 -
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Miulan Ng wrote:Please pardon my newness to the topic, but I'd think someone as influential as James 315 would have been the subject of at least one psychological profile by adversaries and/or allies to aid in strategic planing? Such analysis might provide insight into motivations and hence future, potential actions.
His "adversaries" are all either afk or too stupid and entitled to do anything other than cry to CCP.
You might think that statement to be hyperbole. In that case, I challenge you to read minerbumping.com and see for yourself. ... |
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2591
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:24:00 -
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Miulan Ng wrote:Please pardon my newness to the topic, but I'd think someone as influential as James 315 would have been the subject of at least one psychological profile by adversaries and/or allies to aid in strategic planing? Such analysis might provide insight into motivations and hence future, potential actions.
My analysis of His psychological profile:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efHCdKb5UWc#t=45
That is why He will not walk with the NO treasury. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 --įPsychotic Monk for CSM! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Syds Sinclair
Aliastra Gallente Federation
204
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:38:00 -
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..To the OP. You do realize that the New Order treasury has been at sub one billion ISK many times, and very close to insolvency?
James 315's thread in the Market Discussion forum state ~304 billion in shares sold, true. But ~240 billion of that ISK has been paid out to reimbursements to the Knights who enforce The Code on a daily basis. James simply does not have 304 billion ISK that he could walk away with, like you are implying.
James 315 cares not for ISK. James 315 cares for Eve. That is why he has been granted the title Savior of HighSec. I actually greet him in the fashion that I see him: James 315, Savior of Eve.
OP, by making this thread you have personified that whitch The New Order fights against on a daily basis: ISK Lust. I completely understand why you are so off base. You and your ilk only care about ISK, so James and the Agents must also only care about ISK. Try being baptized in the holy embrace of Concord for a chance. Willingly and faithfully destroy a portion of your fortune. And then, you will see what ISK, and Eve truly is: A very engaging game that is rewarding to those why choose to not be bit-asperients. ..HighSec Mischief and Market Advice - http://rhapsodyvice.blogspot.com/ -Latest entry - 4/10/14 -http://rhapsodyvice.blogspot.com/2014/04/spheres-of-explosions-part-two.html? |
Winchester Steele
968
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:53:00 -
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Syds Sinclair wrote:..To the OP. You do realize that the New Order treasury has been at sub one billion ISK many times, and very close to insolvency?
James 315's thread in the Market Discussion forum state ~304 billion in shares sold, true. But ~240 billion of that ISK has been paid out to reimbursements to the Knights who enforce The Code on a daily basis. James simply does not have 304 billion ISK that he could walk away with, like you are implying.
James 315 cares not for ISK. James 315 cares for Eve. That is why he has been granted the title Savior of HighSec. I actually greet him in the fashion that I see him: James 315, Savior of Eve.
OP, by making this thread you have personified that whitch The New Order fights against on a daily basis: ISK Lust. I completely understand why you are so off base. You and your ilk only care about ISK, so James and the Agents must also only care about ISK. Try being baptized in the holy embrace of Concord for a chance. Willingly and faithfully destroy a portion of your fortune. And then, you will see what ISK, and Eve truly is: A very engaging game that is rewarding to those why choose to not be bit-asperients.
He's kind of like Jesus. Only real. ... |
Sir SmashAlot
The League of Extraordinary Opportunists Intergalactic Conservation Movement
122
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:58:00 -
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Ponzi schemes do pay out for awhile, up until the point that the money flowing in is less than the money flowing out. Paying out only legitimizes the scheme in the eyes of the new na+»ve investor.
It just comes down to the price you will pay for emergent content. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1870
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:08:00 -
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Sir SmashAlot wrote:Ponzi schemes do pay out for awhile, up until the point that the money flowing in is less than the money flowing out. Paying out only legitimizes the scheme in the eyes of the new na+»ve investor.
It just comes down to the price you will pay for emergent content.
Give me isk and I will blow it all on gank catalysts that explode every time they undock is hardly your typical Ponzi scheme sales pitch though. "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion
***** Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM ***** |
Syds Sinclair
Aliastra Gallente Federation
207
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:22:00 -
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Sir SmashAlot wrote:Ponzi schemes do pay out for awhile, up until the point that the money flowing in is less than the money flowing out. Paying out only legitimizes the scheme in the eyes of the new na+»ve investor.
It just comes down to the price you will pay for emergent content.
..Ponzi schemes, however, do not pay out 90% of the money they receive. You know, like The New Order Treasury does. ..HighSec Mischief and Market Advice - http://rhapsodyvice.blogspot.com/ -Latest entry - 4/10/14 -http://rhapsodyvice.blogspot.com/2014/04/spheres-of-explosions-part-two.html? |
Syds Sinclair
Aliastra Gallente Federation
207
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:29:00 -
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Winchester Steele wrote:
He's kind of like Jesus. Only real.
..Like all prolific figures in history, James 315 has been compared to a wide spectrum of notable characters.
Let the comparisons continue, we say. The true believers in The Code all know the moniker that is the most fitting for James: The Father of HighSec and Savior of Eve.
..HighSec Mischief and Market Advice - http://rhapsodyvice.blogspot.com/ -Latest entry - 4/10/14 -http://rhapsodyvice.blogspot.com/2014/04/spheres-of-explosions-part-two.html? |
Doris Dents
Doobie's Dog House Goonswarm Federation
383
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Posted - 2014.04.15 13:01:00 -
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When highsec is saved and bot aspirants play at their keyboard. |
Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
123
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Posted - 2014.04.15 14:35:00 -
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OP does not understand shares in NO at all. Shares are donations to ensure tears continue to flow in high sec. Funds are used to reimburse knights for ships lost in ganks, based on the whether it was a T1, meta, or T2 Catalyst. My ganking alt has received reimbursement for every single loss mail I have submitted. A quick look at minerbumping.com will show you exactly how much ISK NO has in the treasury...it would take a crap-ton of donations in a very short period of time for the treasury to ever reach 500B. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1877
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Posted - 2014.04.15 15:31:00 -
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Syds Sinclair wrote:Winchester Steele wrote:
He's kind of like Jesus. Only real.
..Like all prolific figures in history, James 315 has been compared to a wide spectrum of notable characters. Let the comparisons continue, we say. The true believers in The Code all know the moniker that is the most fitting for James: The Father of HighSec and Savior of Eve.
James is the Ganker of my Heart. "You're a d-bag. But you're a caring d-bag." -- Sindel Pellion
***** Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM ***** |
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