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Quaggan Stomp
The Milkmen Ideal Society
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Posted - 2014.04.13 05:13:00 -
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Hi
I have an alt going up Caldari ship line and I am thinking about running some missions on a Raven. Cheap, not navy.
I was interested in mainly running lvl 4 missions with it, not blitzing or speed running, just plain simple missioning.
So I browsed some fits on the web and have some questions.
1. I noticed all the fits use cruise missiles, whereas missions have a mix of targets. How do they deal with mass amounts of frigates, destroyers and cruisers which are too hard to hit for cruise missiles ? Drones do not seem to be enough.
2. I like to dispose of my targets from longest range possible, many of the fits I have seen are mid or short range thus forcing active tank and vulnreability to neuts etc. Coming from Galente ships and drones + rails the missile range seems to me somewhat short. How do you get long range on the missiles and still remain effective vs frigs ?
3. Are there any good fits using T1, not T2 or Navy parts or ammo ?
4. Are there any good fits for this purpose not using cruise missiles ?
Thanks
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Termy Rockling
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.04.13 05:35:00 -
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1) Drones are enough, also rigor rigs
2) Cruises are everything but shortrange... if you shot long range ammo from rails you did something wrong
3) You can make do with tech1 meta stuff, but atleast T2 hardeners etc are highly recommended for level 4s.
4) Afaik torps are way slow/shortrange/bad hitting anythin smaller than dreads and cruises got buffed while ago.
Fitting decent raven is super easy, start with cruiselaunchers, 2-3 hardeners, shieldbooster / amp, painter, some ballistic computers, some kind of propulsion, rigs, fill dronebay with light drones and random other stuff and go shoot rats. |
Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.13 05:46:00 -
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Termy's post is pretty much spot on.
Regarding #2, you do realize that Raven has a 200KM+ missile range using cruise missiles? I'm not really sure how that figures as close range... (And it can do 600+ paper DPS at that range.) Frigates are a pain, but that's what rigors are for. |
Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
494
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Posted - 2014.04.13 06:01:00 -
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Frigates die to t1 cruise missiles pretty easily. Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |
Quaggan Stomp
The Milkmen Ideal Society
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Posted - 2014.04.13 06:54:00 -
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I did use extended range ammo on my rails. Didnt have any problems taking stuff out with it, worked out much better for me then using anti-matter and still does. Only reload anti-matter to occasionally face tank and take something out faster.
Never used cruise missiles in this game yet and was kinda hoping to avoid it due to the training time, wanted to start missioning L4s in 2-3 days, not X weeks from now but it seems its an unavoidable drag. I do have T2 hardeners and power mods so that will help.
What do you mean by "rigor rigs" ? I do not see anything like that in the market.
Thanks
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Termy Rockling
EVE University Ivy League
155
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Posted - 2014.04.13 08:41:00 -
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Training cruises takes under day to l3, if you can use torps already. And as for rigors, type "rigor" into marketsearch and look for large rigs |
Caleidascope
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
494
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Posted - 2014.04.13 16:19:00 -
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Quaggan Stomp wrote: What do you mean by "rigor rigs" ? I do not see anything like that in the market.
Thanks
This: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Large_Warhead_Rigor_Catalyst_I Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first! |
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
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Posted - 2014.04.13 23:37:00 -
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Quaggan Stomp wrote:I did use extended range ammo on my rails. Didnt have any problems taking stuff out with it, worked out much better for me then using anti-matter and still does. Only reload anti-matter to occasionally face tank and take something out faster.
Never used cruise missiles in this game yet and was kinda hoping to avoid it due to the training time, wanted to start missioning L4s in 2-3 days, not X weeks from now but it seems its an unavoidable drag. I do have T2 hardeners and power mods so that will help.
What do you mean by "rigor rigs" ? I do not see anything like that in the market.
Thanks
Lowish SP? Wants to use rails? Not working towards CNR? Rokh. Has less drone capacity but I don't see as an issue. More shield, armor, CPU, cap and recharge. Moves a little slower, eh but whatever, it's a BS. One less mid but still an extra high making 8, and all can be turrets. As your SP improves for it, maybe find an incursion fleet to break the solo lvl4 mission running monotony now and then. Any more downsides? I don't fly one, but I've been recently raising L-hybrid for one in the future. Raven for me was only an early stepping stone to CNR, as it is for many. GÇö+¬GÇö |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2014.04.14 02:08:00 -
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Use the MJD to jump far away thus minimizing incoming damage. The Signal Amp in the low and the Sensor Booster in the mid are a bit redundant, but if you want to engage things at long range, you'll need at least one of them. You could drop the sig amp for a CPU if needed for fitting or a Damage Control. Or the sensor booster could be dropped for another target painter, an AB, etc..
The three Rigor rigs are mandatory.
[Raven, meta4] 'Pandemonium' Ballistic Enhancement 'Pandemonium' Ballistic Enhancement 'Pandemonium' Ballistic Enhancement 'Pandemonium' Ballistic Enhancement Type-D Attenuation Signal Augmentation
X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I Large Micro Jump Drive Limited Explosive Deflection Field I Limited Adaptive Invulnerability Field I Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Targeting Range Script Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Small Tractor Beam I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
And carry 15 hobgoblin Is.
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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