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Bob ran
Old American Syndicate Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2014.04.13 22:58:00 -
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Hi
I am after a 10b loan with an interest of 10%. The loan will be for two months with the option of continuing the loan. I lack anything that could be used as collateral
My business is region trading. The particular area of the market i trade in has been a reliable source of income for some time. I already have a fair sized working capital available that's approx 3 times the requested loan gained from my area of trading items between the different regions of high sec. Due to this existing working capital there will be no issue paying interest even if a loss occurs.
Interested will be calculated based on isk transfer date and will be paid out every month either on that date or a point within a week before.
The principal can be returned early. The time for this to occur depends on the size of isk to repaid with 1b or less being able to be paid as soon as i receive the request and 48 Hours above this.
In addition to the offered interest rate of 10% there be and additional payment that will depend on the level of isk i make. This bonus interest payment will be within the area of 1% to 10%. This payment will occur if monthly profits exceed what i have min expected profits.
I can provide API to prove cash flow |
Nedly Stark
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.14 09:14:00 -
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you serious bro
your first loan and you are going for 10b? Might I recommend starting smaller, MUCH smaller. Try 500 million and you might get some bites from yoloinvestors such as I LIKE IT. |
Bob ran
Old American Syndicate Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2014.04.14 09:37:00 -
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What would be the point in 500m i already more than that invest from my corp and 60 times that of my own assets
And i rather have the 10b split among several players. Though it would be pointless to ask for several separate 500m loans |
Cavalira
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
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Posted - 2014.04.14 11:51:00 -
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So you're in a CVA friendly corporation that's OK with the fact that you don't do anything besides trading? |
Bob ran
Old American Syndicate Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2014.04.14 12:46:00 -
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Trading is simply the way i make my isk. |
flakeys
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
2131
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Posted - 2014.04.14 15:16:00 -
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I once gave BoB isk , then BoB Ran .....
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Drago Nace
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:05:00 -
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Bob ran wrote:Hi
I am after a 10b loan with an interest of 10%. The loan will be for two months with the option of continuing the loan. I lack anything that could be used as collateral
My business is region trading. The particular area of the market i trade in has been a reliable source of income for some time. I already have a fair sized working capital available that's approx 3 times the requested loan gained from my area of trading items between the different regions of high sec. Due to this existing working capital there will be no issue paying interest even if a loss occurs.
Interested will be calculated based on isk transfer date and will be paid out every month either on that date or a point within a week before.
The principal can be returned early. The time for this to occur depends on the size of isk to repaid with 1b or less being able to be paid as soon as i receive the request and 48 Hours above this.
In addition to the offered interest rate of 10% there be and additional payment that will depend on the level of isk i make. This bonus interest payment will be within the area of 1% to 10%. This payment will occur if monthly profits exceed what i have min expected profits.
I can provide API to prove cash flow
Hmm... as tempting as your offer is, I have a couple questions.
How is it possible that you have 30b+ in capital and assets, yet have absolutely nothing that could be used as collateral?
Why would you need an additional 10b in isk from investors when you have billions of liquid isk of your own at your disposal? (Per your quote of 1b being returnable to the investor within 48 hours.)
Please help us understand why you want or need our isk, when it seems you have plenty of your own billions that are not being fully utilized.
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Bob ran
Old American Syndicate Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:39:00 -
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Drago Nace wrote:Bob ran wrote:Hi
I am after a 10b loan with an interest of 10%. The loan will be for two months with the option of continuing the loan. I lack anything that could be used as collateral
My business is region trading. The particular area of the market i trade in has been a reliable source of income for some time. I already have a fair sized working capital available that's approx 3 times the requested loan gained from my area of trading items between the different regions of high sec. Due to this existing working capital there will be no issue paying interest even if a loss occurs.
Interested will be calculated based on isk transfer date and will be paid out every month either on that date or a point within a week before.
The principal can be returned early. The time for this to occur depends on the size of isk to repaid with 1b or less being able to be paid as soon as i receive the request and 48 Hours above this.
In addition to the offered interest rate of 10% there be and additional payment that will depend on the level of isk i make. This bonus interest payment will be within the area of 1% to 10%. This payment will occur if monthly profits exceed what i have min expected profits.
I can provide API to prove cash flow Hmm... as tempting as your offer is, I have a couple questions. How is it possible that you have 30b+ in capital and assets, yet have absolutely nothing that could be used as collateral? Why would you need an additional 10b in isk from investors when you have billions of liquid isk of your own at your disposal? (Per your quote of 1b being returnable to the investor within 48 hours.) Please help us understand why you want or need our isk, when it seems you have plenty of your own billions that are not being fully utilized.
90% is assets and 10% isk in escrow and isk. All i potential have is t1 bc blueprint a corp mate is holding for me in null and freighter i dont use
Apart from the freighter (in perm ) and the bpo i a bs and a t2 indy ship both in null. Im happy to use those as collateral but lack enough cover the hole 10b. The rest is what i trade in and are simply awaiting transport.
These leads on teh main reason for the need for 10b loan
The main purpose of the loan is to improve the flow of my trading. My trading activities cover most of the high regions. so often i buy stacks that are to small on there own to be worth while to move. Thus i need to wait for them to accumulate
at the moment all my isk being utilized, infact i am often running out and having to shut down to replenish isk buffers. These buffers tends to last a few days before ive bought another 10b of assets. |
Drago Nace
Perkone Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:27:00 -
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Bob ran wrote:Drago Nace wrote:Bob ran wrote:Hi
I am after a 10b loan with an interest of 10%. The loan will be for two months with the option of continuing the loan. I lack anything that could be used as collateral
My business is region trading. The particular area of the market i trade in has been a reliable source of income for some time. I already have a fair sized working capital available that's approx 3 times the requested loan gained from my area of trading items between the different regions of high sec. Due to this existing working capital there will be no issue paying interest even if a loss occurs.
Interested will be calculated based on isk transfer date and will be paid out every month either on that date or a point within a week before.
The principal can be returned early. The time for this to occur depends on the size of isk to repaid with 1b or less being able to be paid as soon as i receive the request and 48 Hours above this.
In addition to the offered interest rate of 10% there be and additional payment that will depend on the level of isk i make. This bonus interest payment will be within the area of 1% to 10%. This payment will occur if monthly profits exceed what i have min expected profits.
I can provide API to prove cash flow Hmm... as tempting as your offer is, I have a couple questions. How is it possible that you have 30b+ in capital and assets, yet have absolutely nothing that could be used as collateral? Why would you need an additional 10b in isk from investors when you have billions of liquid isk of your own at your disposal? (Per your quote of 1b being returnable to the investor within 48 hours.) Please help us understand why you want or need our isk, when it seems you have plenty of your own billions that are not being fully utilized. 90% is assets and 10% isk in escrow and isk. All i potential have is t1 bc blueprint a corp mate is holding for me in null and freighter i dont use Apart from the freighter (in perm ) and the bpo i a bs and a t2 indy ship both in null. 40m implant and maybe another 200m of stuff in null Im happy to use those as collateral but lack enough cover the hole 10b. The rest is what i trade in and are simply awaiting transport. These leads on the main reason for the need for 10b loan The main purpose of the loan is to improve the flow of my trading. My trading activities cover most of the high regions. so often i buy stacks that are to small on there own to be worth while to move. Thus i need to wait for them to accumulate at the moment all my isk being utilized, infact i am often running out and having to shut down to replenish isk buffers. These buffers tends to last a few days before ive bought another 10b of assets. i can return the isk under 1b straight away as i try to keep a buffer of 5b at all times to avoid my orders failing and lossing 10% of the value of the trade. Over that need 48 hours to return as i can simply set up less orders so i have the isk ready or take special measures to get the assets sold
Thanks for the follow-up. That gives us a bit more information to process in making the decision if you would make a good investment.
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Nedly Stark
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:25:00 -
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flakeys wrote:I once gave BoB isk , then BoB Ran .....
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Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda
221
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:08:00 -
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Bob ran wrote:Drago Nace wrote:Bob ran wrote:Hi
I am after a 10b loan with an interest of 10%. The loan will be for two months with the option of continuing the loan. I lack anything that could be used as collateral
My business is region trading. The particular area of the market i trade in has been a reliable source of income for some time. I already have a fair sized working capital available that's approx 3 times the requested loan gained from my area of trading items between the different regions of high sec. Due to this existing working capital there will be no issue paying interest even if a loss occurs.
Interested will be calculated based on isk transfer date and will be paid out every month either on that date or a point within a week before.
The principal can be returned early. The time for this to occur depends on the size of isk to repaid with 1b or less being able to be paid as soon as i receive the request and 48 Hours above this.
In addition to the offered interest rate of 10% there be and additional payment that will depend on the level of isk i make. This bonus interest payment will be within the area of 1% to 10%. This payment will occur if monthly profits exceed what i have min expected profits.
I can provide API to prove cash flow Hmm... as tempting as your offer is, I have a couple questions. How is it possible that you have 30b+ in capital and assets, yet have absolutely nothing that could be used as collateral? Why would you need an additional 10b in isk from investors when you have billions of liquid isk of your own at your disposal? (Per your quote of 1b being returnable to the investor within 48 hours.) Please help us understand why you want or need our isk, when it seems you have plenty of your own billions that are not being fully utilized. 90% is assets and 10% isk in escrow and isk. All i potential have is t1 bc blueprint (prophecy) a corp mate is holding for me in null and freighter i dont use Apart from the freighter (in perm ) and the bpo, i have a bs and a t2 indy ship both in null. 40m implant and maybe another 200m of stuff in null Im happy to use those as collateral but lack enough cover the hole 10b. The rest is what i trade in and are simply awaiting transport. These leads on the main reason for the need for 10b loan The main purpose of the loan is to improve the flow of my trading. My trading activities cover most of the high regions. so often i buy stacks that are to small on there own to be worth while to move. Thus i need to wait for them to accumulate at the moment all my isk being utilized, infact i am often running out and having to shut down to replenish isk buffers. These buffers tends to last a few days before ive bought another 10b of assets. i can return the isk under 1b straight away as i try to keep a buffer of 5b at all times to avoid my orders failing and lossing 10% of the value of the trade. Over that need 48 hours to return as i can simply set up less orders so i have the isk ready or take special measures to get the assets sold If you are interested and if we can agree on the value of your freighter used for collateral I'd be willing to loan you what the freighter is worth. Add your Proph BPO and we might end up at 1.6Bn or so.
To gauge the value I would need to know the exact location (best value if docked in Amarr or Jita) and the type of the freighter.
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Bob ran
Old American Syndicate Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:42:00 -
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was in system next to jita but ive decided to sell it would be best to sell as interest of first month alone woudl be twice isk loss from re-buying it in the future |
Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda
221
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Posted - 2014.04.14 21:02:00 -
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Bob ran wrote:ive decided to sell it would be best to sell as interest of first month alone woudl be twice isk loss from re-buying it in the future Well, I would have accepted your original interest rates, no questions asked, of course. But tbh, considering that I only offered a collateralized loan I fully expected that you would change the terms and lower the monthly interest to reflect that. Maybe another time then ... good luck with your trades. |
Bob ran
Old American Syndicate Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2014.04.14 21:27:00 -
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worked out any interest would pretty much been equal the loss from quick sell in jita. And wouldn't surprised if i actually made a profit from when it was bought. What happened to the freighter i had before it
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Johm Luck
Perkone Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.04.14 22:50:00 -
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So much trouble to increase your capital by only 1/3? |
Bob ran
Old American Syndicate Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2014.04.15 19:04:00 -
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Less effort than the pain of making loads of 50m collateral courier contracts. Knew it was bit of along shot but felt like trying. Personal im not surprised as i my self had 5b isk worth of stuff stolen
So far i have 4.5b isk invested from fellow corp members. Although no collateral its still less than what i have given my corp from the % i give of my profits |
Darth Alavon
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.18 09:30:00 -
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Nedly Stark wrote:flakeys wrote:I once gave BoB isk , then BoB Ran .....
if thats true, how hasn't it killed this request. |
Bob ran
Old American Syndicate Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2014.04.21 11:33:00 -
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Darth Alavon wrote:Nedly Stark wrote:flakeys wrote:I once gave BoB isk , then BoB Ran ..... if thats true, how hasn't it killed this request.
Because its not related to me. Im guessing its something to with Band of Brothers also Know as BoB and its play on names
So far
4.5b isk from 4 corp investors 1b in from one blue investor 3b raised gainefrom my own activities in meantime
So only would be accepting no more than 2-3b |
flakeys
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
2146
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Posted - 2014.04.21 14:13:00 -
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Bob ran wrote:Darth Alavon wrote:Nedly Stark wrote:flakeys wrote:I once gave BoB isk , then BoB Ran ..... if thats true, how hasn't it killed this request. Because its not related to me. Im guessing its something to with Band of Brothers also Know as BoB and its play on names So far 4.5b isk from 4 corp investors 1b in from one blue investor 3b raised gainefrom my own activities in meantime So only 3b of the loan is left
Your name IS bob ran ... insert namejoke '' then bob ran ''
... , am i even explaining this ?
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Bob ran
Old American Syndicate Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2014.04.21 15:43:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Bob ran wrote:Darth Alavon wrote:Nedly Stark wrote:flakeys wrote:I once gave BoB isk , then BoB Ran ..... if thats true, how hasn't it killed this request. Because its not related to me. Im guessing its something to with Band of Brothers also Know as BoB and its play on names So far 4.5b isk from 4 corp investors 1b in from one blue investor 3b raised gainefrom my own activities in meantime So only 3b of the loan is left Your name IS bob ran ... insert namejoke '' then bob ran '' ... , am i even explaining this ?
Thought as much but hadto make sure it was clear to others that might get it was just an attempt at a joke. Even I still woulnt get an extra investment that prob would be worth my while anyway
Besides the name was never meant to be serous so its not a mistake when making it
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Nedly Stark
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.22 00:03:00 -
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He realizes that no one on this forum is stupid enough to loan him 6b so he's slowly trying to swindle it down to make out with what he can. Smart guy. |
Bob ran
Old American Syndicate Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2014.04.22 12:16:00 -
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Nedly Stark wrote:He realizes that no one on this forum is stupid enough to loan him 6b so he's slowly trying to swindle it down to make out with what he can. Smart guy.
I would be surprise if a single player would have loaned me 6b was at most after many smaller investors
And to be Frank what would have been the point of asking for smaller total.
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Investments so far players
2b 1b 750m 500m 250m
Investment can be from 100m to 2b
If any player is serous about investing i can tell you who current investors and few more details in private |
Magnu Stormhawk
Stormhawk Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.22 12:57:00 -
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Bob ran wrote: And to be Frank what would have been the point of asking for smaller total.
Wait, I thought you were Bob?...Flakeys can you run that by me again?
Bob ran wrote:
Investments so far players
2b 1b 750m 500m 250m
Well, this seals the deal. There are numbers here. Must be legit. |
Bob ran
Old American Syndicate Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2014.04.22 15:43:00 -
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Magnu Stormhawk wrote:Bob ran wrote: And to be Frank what would have been the point of asking for smaller total.
Wait, I thought you were Bob?...Flakeys can you run that by me again? Bob ran wrote:
Its an expression
Investments so far players
2b 1b 750m 500m 250m
Well, this seals the deal. There are numbers here. Must be legit.
Will be names shortly just got wait for them to get on to ask them. Since its a public forum i thought it would be polite to ask first |
Thellero Orlenard
Omicron Frontier Exploration New Eden Commonwealth
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Posted - 2014.04.23 05:06:00 -
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Bob ran wrote:4.5b isk from 4 corp investors 1b in from one blue investor 3b raised gainefrom my own activities in meantime
So only 3b of the loan is left
10-(4.5+1+3)=3? |
Bob ran
Old American Syndicate Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2014.05.09 20:29:00 -
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Interest payed at 15%
corp investment carried over to next month
Bayaz Sharvas 1b loan replayed plus the 15% interest |
Bayaz Sharvas
Amarr Brewery Co. Nerfed Alliance Go Away
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Posted - 2014.05.10 15:07:00 -
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Isk and interest received |
Bob ran
Old American Syndicate Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2014.05.16 20:25:00 -
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Im looking for investment again
prior to this i had been taking short 3 days loans to protect from margin calls when delay in selling of stock occurred. The largest of these totaled 12b isk
I currently still have the 4b from corp invested
and am looking for upto 4b isk
Total interest payed out so far 800m isk
1b isk reserved |
Bayaz Sharvas
Amarr Brewery Co. Nerfed Alliance Go Away
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Posted - 2014.05.16 22:33:00 -
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1b isk sent |
Gecko Hareka
Old American Syndicate Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2014.05.17 18:17:00 -
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I'm in Bobs corp and invested 500m. Bob always pays on time and without any hassle.
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