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Cheng Musana
Purple Space Ponys AAA Citizens
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Posted - 2014.04.14 02:42:00 -
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Well was looking around dotlan and the dust guys appearently followed our example and overcome us in blueing up. For those who didnt really follow the actions on Planetary conquest here a quick run down:
-there are 245 districts in molden heath -240 of those are owned by the Dirt Nap Squad. alliance
To put it in comparison what would you do if the goons would own ~98% of nullsec, have capital ship superiocity 24/7 and can overwhelm you at any given time? I think when DNS will hit 100% we are looking at roughly 2 billion Dust514 ISK generated per day. No trouble like with moon goo shipping around, its a pure ISK faucet which happends with the production of clones which the districts generate.
You might think that 2 billion ISK a day for a alliance having 22 corps and 1824 members is not much but you gotta remember that the stuff they use is hell alot cheaper then our ships.
Anyway i congratulate the DNS leadership for achieving that what eve players struggled to do since the beginning of this game. And that is to kill every competition by blueballing up and stomp the weak all day long.
source: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/districts/Molden_Heath |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
686
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Posted - 2014.04.14 03:13:00 -
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Cheng Musana wrote: To put it in comparison what would you do if the goons would own ~98% of nullsec, have capital ship superiocity 24/7 and can overwhelm you at any given time?
They dont?
PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game http://i.imgur.com/RX8oBRN.jpg |
Garandras
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
163
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Posted - 2014.04.14 03:14:00 -
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Gratz on winning the game DNS |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
4660
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Posted - 2014.04.14 03:14:00 -
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In fairness, that game has so very few active players, I can't imagine it was anything but inevitable. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Cheng Musana
Purple Space Ponys AAA Citizens
74
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Posted - 2014.04.14 03:24:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Cheng Musana wrote: To put it in comparison what would you do if the goons would own ~98% of nullsec, have capital ship superiocity 24/7 and can overwhelm you at any given time?
They dont? Well as far as i know N3 and PL are not blue to them. |
Burl en Daire
Trifectas
31
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Posted - 2014.04.14 03:31:00 -
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http://www.dustcharts.com/ then click district ownership. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3175
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Posted - 2014.04.14 03:36:00 -
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What's DUST?
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IDGAD
The Scope Gallente Federation
111
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Posted - 2014.04.14 03:56:00 -
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Gogela wrote:What's DUST?
You just summed up DUST. |
Thead Enco
47th Ronin
132
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Posted - 2014.04.14 04:01:00 -
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Cheng Musana wrote:Well was looking around dotlan and the dust guys appearently followed our example and overcome us in blueing up. For those who didnt really follow the actions on Planetary conquest here a quick run down: -there are 245 districts in molden heath -240 of those are owned by the Dirt Nap Squad. alliance To put it in comparison what would you do if the goons would own ~98% of nullsec, have capital ship superiocity 24/7 and can overwhelm you at any given time? I think when DNS will hit 100% we are looking at roughly 2 billion Dust514 ISK generated per day. No trouble like with moon goo shipping around, its a pure ISK faucet which happends with the production of clones which the districts generate. You might think that 2 billion ISK a day for a alliance having 22 corps and 1824 members is not much but you gotta remember that the stuff they use is hell alot cheaper then our ships. Anyway i congratulate the DNS leadership for achieving that what eve players struggled to do since the beginning of this game. And that is to kill every competition by blueballing up and stomp the weak all day long. source: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/districts/Molden_Heath
Are there any devs left still working on Dust?
-á"A Lannister always pays his debts."
-áTyrion Lannister |
Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
1669
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Posted - 2014.04.14 05:12:00 -
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Cheng Musana wrote:Well was looking around dotlan and the dust guys appearently followed our example and overcome us in blueing up. For those who didnt really follow the actions on Planetary conquest here a quick run down:
-there are 245 districts in molden heath -240 of those are owned by the Dirt Nap Squad. alliance
cue "flushing" noises....
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
312
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Posted - 2014.04.14 05:15:00 -
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Garandras wrote:Gratz on winning the game DNS DNS only recruited the guys who won the game, after they had already won it. Psychotic Monk and DJ FunkyBacon for CSM! |
Fiddlestax Atruin
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
0
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Posted - 2014.04.14 05:47:00 -
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Dust is actually getting better as a game currently. By this time next year it will probably be good if they can just connect another two steps forward instead of back to the recent changes to the game.
To answer to Brusanan, I think you are simplifying just a bit. If not for the mediation efforts of DNSBlack, the multiple entities would have likely torn each other apart by now. Old rivalries would have been difficult to look past without an overarching goal. |
Grunanca
Doughboys Shadow Cartel
210
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Posted - 2014.04.14 06:15:00 -
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Dust is nothing but a suffering animal. Time for a mercy kill. No wonder any corp able to make a full team will win, as there are not enough players to make an opposing team anyway. The game is bad and made completely unplayable by being made for PS3. Hopefully it will die soon due to PS3 being replaced by PS4. Keeping it a live is a waste of the EVE subscribers money really.
Spend the time on a planet based MMO, fully intergrated with EVE. With habitable planets and the whole thing. Now that would be awsome! |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1280
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Posted - 2014.04.14 07:40:00 -
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Grunanca wrote:Dust is nothing but a suffering animal. Time for a mercy kill. No wonder any corp able to make a full team will win, as there are not enough players to make an opposing team anyway. The game is bad and made completely unplayable by being made for PS3. Hopefully it will die soon due to PS3 being replaced by PS4. Keeping it a live is a waste of the EVE subscribers money really.
Spend the time on a planet based MMO, fully intergrated with EVE. With habitable planets and the whole thing. Now that would be awsome!
That would also have been the sensible logical next step for eve. I'm not used to ccp doing either logic or sensible in their business decisions. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Jaxon Grylls
Institute of Archaeology
84
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Posted - 2014.04.14 07:50:00 -
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Grunanca wrote:Spend the time on a planet based MMO, fully intergrated with EVE. With habitable planets and the whole thing. Now that would be awsome! It would, no doubt about it, but I can hear the screams of outrage from the "EVE is a ships in space game" faction if we were able to get out of our capsules anywhere but CQ.
Those who shout the loudest seem to get heard more by CCP, and look what has happened to WIS
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Fiddlestax Atruin
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
0
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Posted - 2014.04.14 07:55:00 -
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Dust has a good core to it. At the heart of it is a fantastic strategic shooter. The shooting elements of it are a bit lackluster, but the strategic elements are stronger than any of the other FPS I have played. Reminds me of BF1942 in all the best and worst ways. Dust does not need to be destroyed or even gutted. It needs polish and love and maybe a new engine. Right now, the biggest thing holding it back is lack of player retention. The game needs to do more to organize the newberry masses. Trying to run solo gets people killed 30 times without one for themselves and they quit.
There IS a good game somewhere in dust's lifeless hull. It can be built upon and renovated. Up until recently I was unsure if CCP had the will or ability to make it work, but they have shown that they have both in recent patches and fixes. At the very least they have bought themselves fan fest to keep the faithful interested. If what they come up with is good and implemented, they may get another year of interest out of the dust community. |
Grunanca
Doughboys Shadow Cartel
212
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Posted - 2014.04.14 07:56:00 -
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Jaxon Grylls wrote:Grunanca wrote:Spend the time on a planet based MMO, fully intergrated with EVE. With habitable planets and the whole thing. Now that would be awsome! It would, no doubt about it, but I can hear the screams of outrage from the "EVE is a ships in space game" faction if we were able to get out of our capsules anywhere but CQ. Those who shout the loudest seem to get heard more by CCP, and look what has happened to WIS
As capsuleers will die permanentely if killed outside their pod, it would prob need to be a game in itself with new characters, own servers and maybe even own subscribtion. Would maybe work even better if you got a a 5 bucks a month discount if you subbed both games.
Just make it so you can launch stuff into space, which has been build on planets (like PI, just many times more advanced), and make the market combined for both games. I could see it work, and as it was another game, **** the WIS haters. I didnt like WIS either, but if it was a whole planetary MMO, it would be a completely different story! |
Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
639
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Posted - 2014.04.14 08:55:00 -
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Grunanca wrote:Jaxon Grylls wrote:Grunanca wrote:Spend the time on a planet based MMO, fully intergrated with EVE. With habitable planets and the whole thing. Now that would be awsome! It would, no doubt about it, but I can hear the screams of outrage from the "EVE is a ships in space game" faction if we were able to get out of our capsules anywhere but CQ. Those who shout the loudest seem to get heard more by CCP, and look what has happened to WIS As capsuleers will die permanentely if killed outside their pod No they dont. Capsuleers can simply be recloned from their last clone backup. You'd lose the SP acquired between said backup and your death but the only way for a capsuleer to permadie is to kill all his backup copies as well.
Anyhow; 98% of Dust planets are owned by one alliance because they dont like the current state of planetary conquest and this is their way of protesting, they've recruited all major corps into one alliance and will dominate PC until CCP fixes it.
If only our null-sec alliances had half the organizational abilities dust players seem to have we could actually see some null-sec iteration.
Coreli Corporation: Small gang PVP & Drug Production, Apply now! |
Archaea Afrodwarf
Happy Endings. Happy Cartel
9
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Posted - 2014.04.14 09:06:00 -
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I've got a Merc, roughly 11m SP or more, and I let it sit. Not because I don't have a PS3, not because the game itself isn't fun, but because of suit costs.
I trained into a Logi suit and many times I can't even use it because the cost of dying is too high. Mind you, my suit only costs roughly 35k per if I recall.
I do my best to follow someone in heavy armor and heal them up, drop some links, revive people, etc. I usually end up in the top 3 of the kill board in points as well, but I die too much for me to play what I want. I have to help my team anyway I can, if that means following them into some BS and getting myself killed, so be it. I gotta get that win ISK. So, I have to half ass the game and play in a suit that costs 10k instead.
That's what bothers me about DUST. It's a rich get richer scenario. I get queued in matches against people who are in full prototype stuff hitting harder, further, with more tank. Can I take them out in some BS free fit? Sure, but what good am I doing my team taking one of those guys into half armor instead of repping a few people and reviving some others instead?
The rich get richer in DUST. You either get into a corp with a district, or you get pub stomped by those who do because they can afford to drop prototype tanks or use prototype suits all game. |
Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
1670
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Posted - 2014.04.14 12:10:00 -
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Fiddlestax Atruin wrote:Dust is actually getting better as a game currently. By this time next year it will probably be good if they can just connect another two steps forward instead of back to the recent changes to the game.
Given CCP's habit of "changing priorities" , WIS / Incarna being a fine example, I wouldn't hold my breath.
Good news is... there are plenty of shiny, new FPS's always out there on the console market. DUST will go out with a whimper, and even then I'm being charitable.
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Evi Polevhia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
533
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Posted - 2014.04.14 12:36:00 -
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An Alliance owns everything in a region of space, they are small time rookies. An Alliance owns everything in a region of DUST and people lose their minds.
Wait till every region is available for DUST ownership. If someone owns 98% of that then you have permission to claim the sky is falling. |
Ari Laveran
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
74
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Posted - 2014.04.14 12:47:00 -
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http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
Dust's player base is actually starting to pick up for the first time in months, I know you all are so very very bitter here in GD. But try to exercise some rationality. Most of you sound like self centered children, convinced that not only is mommy neglecting you with her divided attention but the little sibling is evil and rotten by virtue of existing. |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
575
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Posted - 2014.04.14 12:55:00 -
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I never knew they had a blue- sec also? Wounder if they are realted to our blue-sec |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
575
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Posted - 2014.04.14 13:01:00 -
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Ari Laveran wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
Dust's player base is actually starting to pick up for the first time in months, I know you all are so very very bitter here in GD. But try to exercise some rationality. Most of you sound like self centered children, convinced that not only is mommy neglecting you with her divided attention but the little sibling is evil and rotten by virtue of existing. I am not bitter but more amazed the game has made it this far. Have you played it? The game play to be kind is horrible. The only thing it has going for it is its potential.
There is a reason old people that play Eve dont play twitch games. |
Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
639
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Posted - 2014.04.14 13:18:00 -
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Evi Polevhia wrote:Wait till every region is available for DUST ownership. If someone owns 98% of that then you have permission to claim the sky is falling. I wouldn't expect that to happen anytime soon given the current Dust active player counts and the terrible state of planetary conquest mechanics.
Coreli Corporation: Small gang PVP & Drug Production, Apply now! |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5180
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Posted - 2014.04.14 13:39:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Ari Laveran wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
Dust's player base is actually starting to pick up for the first time in months, I know you all are so very very bitter here in GD. But try to exercise some rationality. Most of you sound like self centered children, convinced that not only is mommy neglecting you with her divided attention but the little sibling is evil and rotten by virtue of existing. I am not bitter but more amazed the game has made it this far. Have you played it? The game play to be kind is horrible. The only thing it has going for it is its potential. There is a reason old people that play Eve dont play twitch games.
Hey now, this old person likes twitch games - I play Planetside 2 all the time. It's the stupid console controls that I dislike. I'd play more Dust if it was on my PC instead of the Netflix box over in the living room.
(I know, keyboard and mouse works on Dust - but that would require a desk in my living room instead of a couch and coffee table, and Dust isn't *that* good to warrant rearranging furniture. Put it on the PC already CCP.)
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Ari Laveran
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
74
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Posted - 2014.04.14 13:43:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Ari Laveran wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
Dust's player base is actually starting to pick up for the first time in months, I know you all are so very very bitter here in GD. But try to exercise some rationality. Most of you sound like self centered children, convinced that not only is mommy neglecting you with her divided attention but the little sibling is evil and rotten by virtue of existing. I am not bitter but more amazed the game has made it this far. Have you played it? The game play to be kind is horrible. The only thing it has going for it is its potential. There is a reason old people that play Eve dont play twitch games.
Been playing it for almost two years now since closed beta(much longer than I've been playing eve), and while it's true the development has had a few downturns they've managed to bring a lot of it together over the last two patches. I have fun with it the strategy and customization is something you simply do not find in other shooters. That's just my experience though.
Not to mince terms but Dust is not really a 'twitch' shooter like COD or it's brethren it's much more of a tracking shooter in the vein of the earlier Halo games. |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
1165
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Posted - 2014.04.14 16:29:00 -
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Why do people assume that the average EvE pilot gives a crap about that useless, money leaching game?
CCP: "We know what's best for the game, so you can't have any options....." |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
689
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:35:00 -
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Garandras wrote:Gratz on winning the game DNS
A game with so few players wouldnt be THAT incredibly hard to win would it?
War Kitten wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Ari Laveran wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
Dust's player base is actually starting to pick up for the first time in months, I know you all are so very very bitter here in GD. But try to exercise some rationality. Most of you sound like self centered children, convinced that not only is mommy neglecting you with her divided attention but the little sibling is evil and rotten by virtue of existing. I am not bitter but more amazed the game has made it this far. Have you played it? The game play to be kind is horrible. The only thing it has going for it is its potential. There is a reason old people that play Eve dont play twitch games. Hey now, this old person likes twitch games - I play Planetside 2 all the time. It's the stupid console controls that I dislike. I'd play more Dust if it was on my PC instead of the Netflix box over in the living room. (I know, keyboard and mouse works on Dust - but that would require a desk in my living room instead of a couch and coffee table, and Dust isn't *that* good to warrant rearranging furniture. Put it on the PC already CCP.)
Closest to twitch I ever get is MWO PSYCHOTIC MONK (or Erotica1's next alt) for CSM. All gameplay modes should be represented! http://i.imgur.com/N949bKU.jpg proving that Im a sociopathic ganker and all around scum of the game http://i.imgur.com/RX8oBRN.jpg |
Grunanca
Doughboys Shadow Cartel
212
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Posted - 2014.04.14 17:42:00 -
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Ari Laveran wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
Dust's player base is actually starting to pick up for the first time in months, I know you all are so very very bitter here in GD. But try to exercise some rationality. Most of you sound like self centered children, convinced that not only is mommy neglecting you with her divided attention but the little sibling is evil and rotten by virtue of existing.
The only rational thing to do is to close it. The game is simply horrible. It doesnt feel like the EVE universe, its like a really bad clone of some of the maps in Star Wars Battlefront. |
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