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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
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Posted - 2014.04.16 20:23:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Perhaps now EVE can get some more attention?
fixt XD
And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4579
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Posted - 2014.04.16 20:25:00 -
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Hoshi Sorano wrote:Falcon, you've mentioned multiple times in this thread that there are no current plans for the WoD IP. Well, here's a sugesstion you can pass on to the decision-makers:
Sell it. Sell it to someone who will give the IP the foucs, attention, and respect it deserves. After you have mismanaged it so grossly and wasted years of opportunity, the only decent thing to do at this point is to hand it over to someone who will be a better steward than you were.
As a side note for those comparing WoD to Twilight, I'll just say this: if the average Twilight fan spent any time in WoD, then in short order they would be curled up in a corner, rocking back and forth, and staring blankly at the wall while repeating "Where are the sparkles? Where are the sparkles?" over and over. Twilight is teen romance crap; WoD is mature horror. Equating the two is ridiculous.
It's called vampire fatigue, that genre has been over-served for quite a while, so any differentiating lines are quite blurred.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
711
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Posted - 2014.04.16 21:05:00 -
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Hoshi Sorano wrote:Falcon, you've mentioned multiple times in this thread that there are no current plans for the WoD IP. Well, here's a sugesstion you can pass on to the decision-makers:
Sell it. Sell it to someone who will give the IP the foucs, attention, and respect it deserves. After you have mismanaged it so grossly and wasted years of opportunity, the only decent thing to do at this point is to hand it over to someone who will be a better steward than you were.
As a side note for those comparing WoD to Twilight, I'll just say this: if the average Twilight fan spent any time in WoD, then in short order they would be curled up in a corner, rocking back and forth, and staring blankly at the wall while repeating "Where are the sparkles? Where are the sparkles?" over and over. Twilight is teen romance crap; WoD is mature horror. Equating the two is ridiculous.
Excuse me now; I've got to go reinstall "Bloodlines".
A thousand times this
CCP, isnt making money off the IP better than sitting on it for no gain? And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |
Ian Morbius
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Posted - 2014.04.16 23:39:00 -
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The $5 million should help a little to recovery from the lose of WOD. Some politicians love corperate welfare. Ah.... program for technical regional development. Sure.
Georgia Is Offering A Hefty $25 Million Tax Break For Video Game Developers Georgia governor signs off on $25 million tax breaks Game Company Behind Eve Series Lays Off 56, Keeps the Tax Break (Updated)
Edit: "Under the bill, those companies are entitled to receive up to $5 million per year."
www.acronymfinder.com - For when companies allow engineers to create surveys for their customers.
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Hehaw Jimbojohnson
Sheep Can Hear A Zipper From A Mile Away
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Posted - 2014.04.16 23:54:00 -
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I don't like how they keep saying the WoD resources will go towards "the EVE Universe and our projects therein". With that wording, I wouldn't be surprised if they put most of the funding into Dust to try to make it suck less, or marketing for Valkyrie. I mean, why not, we at EVE Online will give them money for a ship stat tweak or two every few months, so why devote more money than they have to to this product?
Hoshi Sorano wrote:Falcon, you've mentioned multiple times in this thread that there are no current plans for the WoD IP. Well, here's a sugesstion you can pass on to the decision-makers:
Sell it. Sell it to someone who will give the IP the foucs, attention, and respect it deserves. After you have mismanaged it so grossly and wasted years of opportunity, the only decent thing to do at this point is to hand it over to someone who will be a better steward than you were. .
Also, this is a very good point. After the total failure in the handling of the WoD project, CCP should most definitely just sell the IP to a company that wants to actually do something with it. Seriously, there's no point in keeping it; who in the hell would invest in a CCP-made WoD game in the future after this failure? |
Suomi Khan
Mechanised Madness
19
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Posted - 2014.04.17 02:34:00 -
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1 wish:
Please CCP, make sure the IP ends up in capable and competent hands. Take your loss, move on and don't be a **** about the IP.
You made the **** up, you should pay, so make sure the IP ends up with someone who have the soul in it and not just the ones with the fattest wallet, you owe the WOD community that much, cause the responsible lies solely in your hands. And don't let it collect dust either, you have done enough damage. |
Droidyk
Maniacal Miners INC No Safe Haven
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Posted - 2014.04.17 14:59:00 -
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The Important thing is that the EVE Universe as a whole will get more attention and focusing only on it, it is one of the best things that could happen. It is going to be all about this universe and I love that. |
Anabella Rella
Gradient
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Posted - 2014.04.17 16:00:00 -
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Droidyk wrote:The Important thing is that the EVE Universe as a whole will get more attention and focusing only on it, it is one of the best things that could happen. It is going to be all about this universe and I love that.
This is an over simplistic and naive view.
CCP is a business. They exist in order to deliver value (profits) for their shareholders. The way to do this over a long period of time is by diversification. Placing all their financial eggs into a single, niche, ten year old IP is NOT the way to maximize that value thus, they branched out and bought White Wolf for WoD, developed Dust 514, Valkyrie, etc. Expecting CCP to stand pat with a single aging product is akin to asking GM to dump Cadillac, GMC and Buick in order to focus all their resources on developing ONLY Chevy Corvettes.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending CCP for killing off WoD. I'm so upset about the way this company is being managed that I'm considering ending my 6 year plus relationship with them. But for all you people thinking that this move will automatically make Eve a better game, you really need to take a closer, more nuanced view of how businesses are run. When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around. |
Eiwol Ressiv
Extorsion Productions.
5
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Posted - 2014.04.17 16:11:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Stitcher wrote:
It would be nice to get some feedback on WHY the project had to be shelved, though. Were the challenges technical, artistic, financial? And what can the community do to try and bring our vampires back from the dead?
We basically just feel that we overreached with WoD in its initial concept and were trying to achieve too much in the first iteration of the project. We've worked hard and adjusted the plan a number of times along the way but felt the project just wan't true to the original concept that was laid out. The decision was made to cancel the project because we don't feel we met our target of creating a fully immersive experience set in the WoD universe, and felt it was in our best interests to put an end to the project rather than retro-fitting it and re-hashing it further.
would be hard also a Sandbox theme park full of content , nobody has done it before with succses of that i know of.
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
2882
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Posted - 2014.04.17 19:37:00 -
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Sad to see the WoD go into torpor. Maybe you could preserve some of the writing talent you no doubt hired and put it to work on EVE to pick up the left over story threads in EVE. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
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Maaloc
Iris Covenant The Gorgon Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.18 02:24:00 -
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Oh, fu-ük you CCP, you are the worst.
Since the day you bought WhiteWolf you've done nothing good for the franchise and now, after 6 fu-üking years, you're telling you're cancelling WoD?
For at least 3 years you've been only showing that you (most of it is related to EVE): 1) don't give a fu-ük about your current and potential customers; 2) can't predict (like, at all) the impact of your decisions on the community; 3) have no idea how your games work; 4) have no fu-üking idea what you're doing when it comes to changing stuff or bringing something to EVE.
Good luck ruining a good roleplaying setting, you bought without any intention to develop, and an MMO that used to be cool before your staff started inhaling hairspray or something.
I sure hope this post merits a permanent ban, assholes.
P.S. Yay to using a Cyrillic "-ü" to spell "fu-ük". |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
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Posted - 2014.04.18 03:12:00 -
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Maaloc wrote:Oh, fu-ük you CCP, you are the worst.
Since the day you bought WhiteWolf you've done nothing good for the franchise and now, after 6 fu-üking years, you're telling you're cancelling WoD?
dont forget "we have no plans for the IP"
And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |
Mikhem
Taxisk Unlimited
128
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Posted - 2014.04.18 11:43:00 -
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Hmm... This thread is about World of Darkness MMO and it is in EVE general discussion. I demand ISD here and move it to OOPE Out Of Pod Experience. Mikhem
Game improvement ideas. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.18 15:01:00 -
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Mikhem wrote:Hmm... This thread is about World of Darkness MMO and it is in EVE general discussion. I demand ISD here and move it to OOPE Out Of Pod Experience.
GD is also known as "General Drama", so it's in exactly the right place.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Hoshi Sorano
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:16:00 -
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I suppose in a way it's for the best; it's not like CCP would have done WoD justice. CCP has already shown that they can't be faithful to their own IP (missile bonuses tied to Gallente piloting skills?!?); why should we expect they would have treated another IP any better?
The best thing that could happen here is for CCP to admit their screw-up and sell this off to someone who will handle it properly. |
Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland Test Alliance Please Ignore
633
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:19:00 -
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The one thing that seems to me to be of actual value is manpower, and a physical simulator that is astonishingly well done.
This is the digital age. Shop out that simulator for clothing designers. Now they can have all the anorexic models they want without any of the harmful side-effects. Those people would pay big bux for a realistic simulator before having to pay models ridiculously large sums of money.
Or something. Its still a great piece of tech. Coming soon... |
Ubat Batuk
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
129
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Posted - 2014.04.18 22:20:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Beaver Retriever wrote:So are you going to spend any resources on fixing Eve now, or are you going to continue tweaking dials on the Titanic while developing console games?
You're all out of excuses now, bar the most obvious one - 'we're too incompetent to save Eve from stagnation'. Either admit to that, or do something. We're trying to make sure that as much of the talent as possible from the WoD Development Team is kept on board, and we're exploring the option of moving people onto EVE Universe projects. That's all we can say on the situation right now.
WoD environment did look great and I always thought it could have been a city inside one of EVE stations. Please reuse it and give us a proper EVE WiS.
The issue of the WoD proves that I was correct all along. |
Ubat Batuk
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
129
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Posted - 2014.04.18 22:22:00 -
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Hoshi Sorano wrote:I suppose in a way it's for the best; it's not like CCP would have done WoD justice. CCP has already shown that they can't be faithful to their own IP ( missile bonuses tied to Gallente piloting skills?!?); why should we expect they would have treated another IP any better? The best thing that could happen here is for CCP to admit their screw-up and sell this off to someone who will handle it properly.
Wait a second, are you saying that CCP management is Gallente? |
Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2014.04.18 23:07:00 -
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Ubat Batuk wrote:Wait a second, are you saying that CCP management is Gallente? Hate to tell you but God is Gallente too. Stay calm, breath into the paper bag. - |
Annexe
I N E X T R E M I S Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2014.04.18 23:19:00 -
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EVE + WOD = WIS
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Beta Maoye
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.19 16:56:00 -
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Omg, eight years of works was wasted. Imagine how those who had worked on WoD put eight years of failed project in their resume when they look for a new job. I feel sorry for them. CCP should do everything they can to help these released staffs. |
Dreadsta Kring
Pawn Brokers Inc
0
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Posted - 2014.04.19 20:23:00 -
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im glad , thx for info ,, sounds like another fail like Dusk how is Valkyrie coming on .... lmao |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:08:00 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.
The Rules: 26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued. ISD Ezwal Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
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Posted - 2014.04.20 04:04:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Lilliana Stelles wrote:So what will become of the IP now? Just more storyteller rulebooks and fluff? We know the value in the IP and are going to be reviewing the status of it in the near future. There aren't any plans for it at present.
Hopefully this means "we're selling it"
And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
2666
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Posted - 2014.04.20 09:44:00 -
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While it sucks that a few broskies are now in between employment options, all I can say (and I believe I speak for the majority of us Eve addicts here when I say) is:
About damn time.
I'll be expecting my Incarna now.
For serious. Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk! |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
2907
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Posted - 2014.04.20 10:08:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Lilliana Stelles wrote:So what will become of the IP now? Just more storyteller rulebooks and fluff? We know the value in the IP and are going to be reviewing the status of it in the near future. There aren't any plans for it at present. Hopefully this means "we're selling it" You don't sell a valuable IP, you put it up for rent. Unless you really need a lot of money right now instead of a regular income. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
539
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Posted - 2014.04.20 13:03:00 -
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Does this mean we'll get vampire teeth in the NEX store? |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
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Posted - 2014.04.20 19:30:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:While it sucks that a few broskies are now in between employment options, all I can say (and I believe I speak for the majority of us Eve addicts here when I say) is:
About damn time.
I'll be expecting my Incarna now.
For serious.
this except for the WiS part. That needs to go And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3193
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Posted - 2014.04.21 04:51:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Random McNally wrote: Falcon, can you comment about whether or not this will affect the table/paper version?
Also this O.o Right now we don't have any further plans for the WoD IP. The World of Darkness MMO is no more, however pen and paper is something I can't comment on, sorry We're immortal, right? F### EvE lore. This game would be way more bitchin if we were living in vampire stations. This is a golden opportunity for you CCP. If you f*** this up I'm going to be really disappointed. You could make ambulation happen now. Do it like you always do... roll out with what you have and fix it later. If you miss this opportunity there's no way you'll get another chance. Just do it. Strike while the iron is hot, for f***s sake!.
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Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
669
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Posted - 2014.04.21 11:22:00 -
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To be honest, WOD was a Bad idea from the start, pity you didn't consult me before you started, you would've saved yourself $52 million or whatever was sunk into this project, my consulting services would've been free.
A Vampire Game , lol , whatever Evelopedia;-á
The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion -áGÇá-á-á |
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